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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 9:13am On Dec 05, 2019
Daboomb:


Baba, l did not instruct you o! Who l be?
I just made a humble request ni o. grin grin

Your post does not contain the calculation, though it has the Results or Conclusion.

I am of the Opinion that the person with that Bungalow will not need a three phase connection for his Bungalow, (the only advantage is that you can switch phases when one phase lacks power and others have power, the cost lies in more than doubling your wiring needs and switching accesories).

Until we see your calculation, it will be difficult to agree or disagree with it.
When l have the time, l will dig up something similar that calculates the gauge of Wire, based on the overall load. I know l have it somewhere in the past.

Also, quantity of wire required will largely depend on the span and shape of the building and wiring type (Conduit, Surface, Structured cabling).
That is why l would advice everyone to buy enough wire but keep vigilance on how it is use so that "wires dont start flying over the fence" 9as my friend said) and then request for more wires start coming in. grin

See the attached calculations

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nugadel(m): 11:36am On Dec 05, 2019
Please how good is N.W.C. Denki wire and cable for house wiring? My electrician rates it above Coleman.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Segunrusell: 11:41am On Dec 05, 2019
Good mornin family, I need your help for my roofing project. My engineer is one guy that I don’t understand. Can you please help me with this quotation for the roofing of this small project? I have attached the house plan for easy assessment. I will be happy to hear from everyone soon. The house is on 30/120 and the size of the house is 21/70. Thank you all

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Housetop: 1:53pm On Dec 05, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 2:32pm On Dec 05, 2019
megacontrol:
Hello,
how many blocks will one bag of cement set on the average?

Thanks
Size of block
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hum2020: 4:04pm On Dec 05, 2019
Segunrusell:
Good mornin family, I need your help for my roofing project. My engineer is one guy that I don’t understand. Can you please help me with this quotation for the roofing of this small project? I have attached the house plan for easy assessment. I will be happy to hear from everyone soon. The house is on 30/120 and the size of the house is 21/70. Thank you all
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hum2020: 4:09pm On Dec 05, 2019
@segunrusell I will advice you to contract money121 or call him on what up 0805310359 he will be of great help to you because the price your engineer quoated is high so reachout to our able moneyv121 thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Segunrusell: 4:13pm On Dec 05, 2019
Hum2020:
@segunrusell I will advice you to contract money121 or call him on what up 0805310359 he will be of great help to you because the price your engineer quoated is high so reachout to our able moneyv121 thanks
ok thank you sir. I will do as you have said. Appreciate
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 5:30pm On Dec 05, 2019
topsy23:


See the attached calculations

Well done Sir!

Thanks for sharing your calculation.

There are a few things l will please want you to take not of:

In your calculation, what you used are what we call 'absolute values" in that they are the maximum limit of power the house can draw if all appliances are IN USE and drawing Maximum Power concurrently but a few things are going to be obvious:
1.) A ll the 4A.c's wont be on at the same time.
2.) Even if they are, they wont all the on and the Cooker, Water heater all still on concurrently.
3.) Even if all those are on, all the 13 Amps Socket wont be in use at the same time
4.) Sockets are rated for the maximum power that theycan carry but we all know that when we dont plug any appliance into a socket, NO POWER is drawn from it, which means its power consumption at that point, from the Load wire, is ZERO! So, most time, only a few Sockets are in use and drawing power from the load wire. Others are idle.
5.) Some appliance like TV's, Laptops, Sound System, will draw less than 35W, yet each on is plugged to individual Socket!
6.) All 35 Bulbs in the house wont be on at the same time, some might be low-energy LED Bulbs that draw only 5W of energy so, they all will draw a fraction of what your figures gave!

So, if you look at it, IN REALITY, at any given time, REAL POWER being drawn from the 10mm load wire is less that 45% of the total POSSIBLE Power Consumption of the House, that will pass through the Load wire, at the same time, for a single pahse wiring..
Same reason Engineers use the 16mm as load wire, for single phase.

I have never see any house where appliances like Boiling Kettle is plugged to all their 15Amps Socket, and Appliances are in all the 13A sockets all at the same time, with AC and Water Heater balrring and food cooking on the Cooker, e.t.c ....all at the same time. grin


This is why l and some will agree that a 10mm load wire, (and from experience), is adequate for the load of that the poster suggested.

All the same, l thank you for your effort and opinion.
Respect.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adewaleID: 8:54pm On Dec 05, 2019
This is a quick appreciation shout out to Gbadexy for a Wonderful superstar job done for us recently. Haji recommended him some yrs ago, I kept his details and continue to monitor his work here. He blew us away, like others have said before honest, a Pro and a good example of a wonderful Nigerian you will be proud to deal with.

We roll on to the next project Gbadexy, people for your painting jobs call Gbadexy for peace of mind.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Obafisenco(m): 8:59pm On Dec 05, 2019
Bankyshinani:

it's just half plot of land
So it should be within that price also
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 9:04pm On Dec 05, 2019
adewaleID:
This is a quick appreciation shout out to Gbadexy for a Wonderful superstar job done for us recently. Haji recommended him some yrs ago, I kept his details and continue to monitor his work here. He blew us away, like others have said before honest, a Pro and a good example of a wonderful Nigerian you will be proud to deal with.
We roll on to the next project Gbadexy, people for your painting jobs call Gbadexy for peace of mind.

I am glad you are not disappointed too. Gbadexy is all and more of your description above. I can give him a job and go to sleep. smiley
Gbadexy, keep up the good work Sir. Thank you.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 9:44pm On Dec 05, 2019
6"

Rubbiish:

Size of block
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:49pm On Dec 05, 2019
nugadel:
Please how good is N.W.C. Denki wire and cable for house wiring? My electrician rates it above Coleman.
never heard of it
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 10:16pm On Dec 05, 2019
adewaleID:
This is a quick appreciation shout out to Gbadexy for a Wonderful superstar job done for us recently. Haji recommended him some yrs ago, I kept his details and continue to monitor his work here. He blew us away, like others have said before honest, a Pro and a good example of a wonderful Nigerian you will be proud to deal with.

We roll on to the next project Gbadexy, people for your painting jobs call Gbadexy for peace of mind.

It was a pleasure supplying you sir. The prayer you sent on the first was very apt and timely than you could imagine sir.
I pray you continue to have the means and continued good health to accomplish your other tasks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 10:20pm On Dec 05, 2019
mufutau55:


I am glad you are not disappointed too. Gbadexy is all and more of your description above. I can give him a job and go to sleep. smiley
Gbadexy, keep up the good work Sir. Thank you.

Hajji M.
My chairman sir, the thought of having you disappointed is enough deterrent sir.
I really appreciate your candid advice and mentorship sir. may God continue to bless you with good m long health and wisdom.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 1:04am On Dec 06, 2019
Segunrusell:
Good mornin family, I need your help for my roofing project. My engineer is one guy that I don’t understand. Can you please help me with this quotation for the roofing of this small project? I have attached the house plan for easy assessment. I will be happy to hear from everyone soon. The house is on 30/120 and the size of the house is 21/70. Thank you all

It's a bit higher, tell the engineer to reconsider his quote a bit from materials to workmanship which is believe is the Carpenter charges only.

I normally use previous projects done to evaluate future project management and approaches. By area the building isn't as big as the estimate should take. I know how much I used for this building I did for a Nairalander here

My opinion though.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Segunrusell: 6:10am On Dec 06, 2019
Dennis3D:


It's a bit higher, tell the engineer to reconsider his quote a bit from materials to workmanship which is believe is the Carpenter charges only.

I normally use previous projects done to evaluate future project management and approaches. By area the building isn't as big as the estimate should take. I know how much I used for this building I did for a Nairalander here

My opinion though.
thank you so much for the response, my uncle actually said the same thing but this engineer is always doing this to us. Inflating everything and telling us it’s not easy to work from upper floor that if it is a bungalow it’s different case entirely. How much is good for the workmanship. I’m thinking of telling him 120 or max 130k

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 6:19am On Dec 06, 2019
nugadel:
Please how good is N.W.C. Denki wire and cable for house wiring? My electrician rates it above Coleman.

NWC is good but can't compare it with Coleman, Nigerchin and Kabelmetal

Denki wire and cable saw it once but I don't think it's the class with what I lusted above..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 6:38am On Dec 06, 2019
Segunrusell:
thank you so much for the response, my uncle actually said the same thing but this engineer is always doing this to us. Inflating everything and telling us it’s not easy to work from upper floor that if it is a bungalow it’s different case entirely. How much is good for the workmanship. I’m thinking of telling him 120 or max 130k
where is the project Sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Segunrusell: 6:47am On Dec 06, 2019
tevanso:
where is the project Sir.
somewhere around ikorodu
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 6:50am On Dec 06, 2019
Segunrusell:
somewhere around ikorodu
can u try another carpenter to give u quote.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 6:51am On Dec 06, 2019
My Good morning people.
Trust we had a good day yesterday.
Please I am seriously considering my financial status but still wants the best.

Parapet vs No parapet

What are the pros and cons.
This is where I am now at. I am considering casting the beam and roofing or casting parapet before roofing.

My pocket will tell.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 6:54am On Dec 06, 2019
Segunrusell:
thank you so much for the response, my uncle actually said the same thing but this engineer is always doing this to us. Inflating everything and telling us it’s not easy to work from upper floor that if it is a bungalow it’s different case entirely. How much is good for the workmanship. I’m thinking of telling him 120 or max 130k

Try professionals here too, we are not only good in given quotation or criticizing non nairalander
Quotation here sir, others do patronize us here too.
God will give you more power to finish your project Amen

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Segunrusell: 7:11am On Dec 06, 2019
rotecch77:


Try professionals here too, we are not only good in given quotation or criticizing non nairalander
Quotation here sir, others do patronize us here too.
God will give you more power to finish your project Amen
thank you sir, well I did created a thread for the project asking who can roof the project. I just received a quotation and we are still negotiating. I’m trying to get the best and pocket friendly offer so we can get the roofing done ASAP

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:22am On Dec 06, 2019
Segunrusell:
thank you sir, well I did created a thread for the project asking who can roof the project. I just received a quotation and we are still negotiating. I’m trying to get the best and pocket friendly offer so we can get the roofing done ASAP

Oh that is good to hear sir, your power of negotiation is very necessary while negotiating with any body that submitted quotation.
More so the cheapest price doesn’t mean good work oo.
Ask the person to show you his previous work or to take your brother there to see . (That is if the said person is nearby).
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Segunrusell: 7:37am On Dec 06, 2019
rotecch77:


Oh that is good to hear sir, your power of negotiation is very necessary while negotiating with any body that submitted quotation.
More so the cheapest price doesn’t mean good work oo.
Ask the person to show you his previous work or to take your brother there to see . (That is if the said person is nearby).
I will do as you have said. Thank you for the input and at the same time can you pls help vet the quotation a little? I’ll appreciate sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:39am On Dec 06, 2019
Segunrusell:
I will do as you have said. Thank you for the input and at the same time can you pls help vet the quotation a little? I’ll appreciate sir

Ok I will check and revert back soon
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:59am On Dec 06, 2019
Segunrusell:
I will do as you have said. Thank you for the input and at the same time can you pls help vet the quotation a little? I’ll appreciate sir

Go this way.
Ask him to buy real 2x2 (50mmx50mm) not the so called (“solo” size in the mkt) it’s not good for roofing work. Although the price is btw 300-320.

More so cost of logistic is much if you are buying the wood from itamaga area their in Ikorodu. (Bargain btw 18-22k max)

Workmanship around 120-140k max”

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 8:40am On Dec 06, 2019
Daboomb:


Well done Sir!

Thanks for sharing your calculation.

There are a few things l will please want you to take not of:

In your calculation, what you used are what we call 'absolute values" in that they are the maximum limit of power the house can draw if all appliances are IN USE and drawing Maximum Power concurrently but a few things are going to be obvious:
1.) A ll the 4A.c's wont be on at the same time.
2.) Even if they are, they wont all the on and the Cooker, Water heater all still on concurrently.
3.) Even if all those are on, all the 13 Amps Socket wont be in use at the same time
4.) Sockets are rated for the maximum power that theycan carry but we all know that when we dont plug any appliance into a socket, NO POWER is drawn from it, which means its power consumption at that point, from the Load wire, is ZERO! So, most time, only a few Sockets are in use and drawing power from the load wire. Others are idle.
5.) Some appliance like TV's, Laptops, Sound System, will draw less than 35W, yet each on is plugged to individual Socket!
6.) All 35 Bulbs in the house wont be on at the same time, some might be low-energy LED Bulbs that draw only 5W of energy so, they all will draw a fraction of what your figures gave!

So, if you look at it, IN REALITY, at any given time, REAL POWER being drawn from the 10mm load wire is less that 45% of the total POSSIBLE Power Consumption of the House, that will pass through the Load wire, at the same time, for a single pahse wiring..
Same reason Engineers use the 16mm as load wire, for single phase.

I have never see any house where appliances like Boiling Kettle is plugged to all their 15Amps Socket, and Appliances are in all the 13A sockets all at the same time, with AC and Water Heater balrring and food cooking on the Cooker, e.t.c ....all at the same time. grin


This is why l and some will agree that a 10mm load wire, (and from experience), is adequate for the load of that the poster suggested.

All the same, l thank you for your effort and opinion.
Respect.

Yes you are right but from my calculations i have diversify lighting and socket to reduce the total load
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 9:18am On Dec 06, 2019
megacontrol:
6"

In the range of 55 - 65 blocks
Depending on bricklayer usage of cement
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 9:21am On Dec 06, 2019
Muyi002:
My Good morning people.
Trust we had a good day yesterday.
Please I am seriously considering my financial status but still wants the best.

Parapet vs No parapet

What are the pros and cons.
This is where I am now at. I am considering casting the beam and roofing or casting parapet before roofing.

My pocket will tell.
Since u are even casting the beam, there is nothing a parapet will add to your building apart from aesthetics. If your pocket is lean, I will advice u leave parapet

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