coluka:
The do nothing Democrats should just get this their impeachment charade over and done with so the Senate can consign it to the dustbin of history where it belongs. Anyway, you can read the Republican Report on the Impeachment Inquiry here

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/02/us/politics/republican-impeachment-report.html#click=https:///wBo0WetKbO

check again

Mindfulness:


Every politician says what his potential voters want to hear. They want to be elected and re-elected but I still don't know what Mayor Pete says specifically. I haven't been following American politics as of lately.

What vision does Trump represent? What is new about it?

that is why America needs a leader that is true to his values and is time tested and cares far less about politics and more about policies! Bernie Sanders fits the bill

coluka:


I Don't know why you are applauding that, it's actually plain disgusting and disgraceful to be taking such a cheap shot at a 13-year-old boy and dragging his name into a political hearing in public. anyone with basic common sense should know that.

and the name calling of Greta thunberg is what? You now care about children's sanctity how rich

Anduku:

It should have received boos. What a terrible thing to say. So disgusting and pathetic.

since it is also factually correct, I disagree

People and Visitors of this thread, please put aside your political differences and spare a moment each day to pray for the people of Iran. The situation has gotten worse as a result of an uprising by its citizens. Inside sources somehow has revealed that Hundreds of thousands have risen up in protest against their own government, and how did the government react? By gunning down thousands of its own citizens in cold blood on the streets! This is so disheartening to know! and to add insult to injury even when family members (however young or old) try to pick up the dead bodies of their loved ones on the street, they too were shot by the Armed personnels of the Government.
The Government of Iran had cut off all access to the internet so that its citizens will not be able to disclose this horror show to the rest of the world.The situation is really sad

Mindfulness:


Do you guys always need to be so childish? Sometimes you make a good point and then you behave like a brat in order to please your half-witted friend. Not necessary.

you are brutally and honestly harsh when needs be and come of more as a centrist, as a leftist, I respect that, keep it up, what I can't stand is blatant hypocrisy and inversion of logic, the right does this so much and it feels like they are mocking everyone's intelligence! That's insulting, more insulting is the fact that their base knows this and just don't care

feedthenation:


Today’s Republican witness Jonathan Turley opposes impeaching Trump, yet he supported impeaching Bill Clinton in 1998. Here’s what he told Congress back then: “If you decide that certain acts do not rise to impeachable offenses, you will expand the space for executive conduct.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1202276648936235013

define in your face hypocrisy! Republicans are shameless and repugnant

Anduku:

Are you not the one that made the above bolded claim about Feldman when his tweets clearly Show him talking in favour of impeachment as far back as 2017 both you and Feldman are bloody liars !!!

he gave clauses that would support impeachment qualifying with "if" and "then" so how does that translate to him routing for impeachment?

wowcatty:
Won a fe la!

McCain, Pelosi, Trudeau and Norwegian connection. So deep that's why it's deepstate!

who let you out of arkham?

GalaticHorde:
you are brutally and honestly harsh when needs be and come of more as a centrist, as a leftist, I respect that, keep it up, what I can't stand is blatant hypocrisy and inversion of logic, the right does this so much and it feels like they are mocking everyone's intelligence! That's insulting, more insulting is the fact that their base knows this and just don't care

I would rather have a sober and objective discourse but there is no room for this on this thread. Facts don't matter anyway, right?

@bold
I think you got that right and I prefer political systems of proportional representation that allow room for smaller parties as well since they better represent plural societies and tend to be less polarizing.

I have never seen so much hypocrisy as we witness now. I am not sure their base knows this. Post something on Twitter like 'America is still a democracy' and many of them will shout 'No, it's a Republic!'.

Mindfulness:


I would rather have a sober and objective discourse but there is no room for this on this thread. Facts don't matter anyway, right?

@bold
I think you got that right and I prefer political systems of proportional representation that allow room for smaller parties as well since they better represent plural societies and tend to be less polarizing.

I have never seen so much hypocrisy as we witness now. I am not sure their base knows this. Post something on Twitter like 'America is still a democracy' and many of them will shout 'No, it's a Republic!'.

there's enough room for far right, far left, centrist and independent pundits on this thread and in real life and mutual respect is possible but not when such blatant hypocrisy and in your face reconstruction of facts, truths and by extension narratives is perpetuated chiefly by one side all in the effort of winning at any cost! How you win should also be as equally important as winning and that is what makes me dislike the current right! For goodness sakes i supported bush in his office because he carried the authority of the office with some semblance of responsibility and justice, even if trump is declared emperor today only certain Republicans will stick to him, the rest of the world will still find him deplorable and unworthy of respect, why can't his supporters admit this?

GalaticHorde:
there's enough room for far right, far left, centrist and independent pundits on this thread and in real life and mutual respect is possible but not when such blatant hypocrisy and in your face reconstruction of facts, truths and by extension narratives is perpetuated chiefly by one side all in the effort of winning at any cost! How you win should also be as equally important as winning and that is what makes me dislike the current right! For goodness sakes i supported bush in his office because he carried the authority of the office with some semblance of responsibility and justice, even if trump is declared emperor today only certain Republicans will stick to him, the rest of the world will still find him deplorable and unworthy of respect, why can't his supporters admit this?

If we debated to learn and not to win, we would all win.

Mindfulness:


If we debated to learn and not to win, we would all win.

More than 500 law professors say Trump committed ‘impeachable conduct’ in a letter to congress.

Letter to Congress from Legal Scholars

We, the undersigned legal scholars, have concluded that President Trump engaged in impeachable conduct.
We do not reach this conclusion lightly. The Founders did not make impeachment available for disagreements over policy, even profound ones, nor for extreme distaste for the manner in which the President executes his office. Only “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” warrant impeachment. But there is overwhelming evidence that President Trump betrayed his oath of office by seeking to use presidential power to pressure a foreign government to help him distort an American election, for his personal and political benefit, at the direct expense of national security interests as determined by Congress. His conduct is precisely the type of threat to our democracy that the Founders feared when they included the remedy of impeachment in the Constitution.
https://medium.com/@legalscholarsonimpeachment/letter-to-congress-from-legal-scholars-6c18b5b6d116

Foreign interference in US elections is exactly the type of crimes the impeachment clause was supposed to deal with, but that had been desecrated again and again by Trump. First by asking Russia on live TV to find Hillary missing email ( how? - by hacking of course), then by asking Ukraine to do him a favour and also asking China to investigate hunter and Joe Biden (you would think CIA and FBI is dead or incompetent ).
Never in the history of the US had a president publicly asked a foreign government to investigate a US citizen not to talk of a political rival, but with Trump anything goes.

obixcel:
Creepy Joe lashes out at an elderly Iowa Voter who confronted him about his son's dealings with Ukraine
....said, ''You are a damn liar!!'' ''You're too old to vote for me''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnTQ8EzShuQ

You guys are pathetic. If it was a Trump event? I am sure Trump would not only lash out at a voter who asks questions he doesn't like, he would have ordered his removal and probably some beating as well.
How many times has voters with opposing views been violently removed and assaulted at trump rallies? You guys cheer on them.
Here is just one of dozens of examples;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS7YpoNPuUE

Here a voter was violently thrown out for holding a picture of Trump and Epstein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mFFPdaExBI

Here black voters were thrown out simply because they were black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-LTXXbpaHM

Democrats are too soft for my liking. They should match Trump and his magas insult for insult, violence for violence. This their soft approach makes them look weak.

Here is Trump's tweet after the terrorist attack by a Saudi at Pensacola naval base in Florida.

King Salman of Saudi Arabia just called to express his sincere condolences and give his sympathies to the families and friends of the warriors who were killed and wounded in the attack that took place in Pensacola, Florida....
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1203030938663428103?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-20919458754048406889.ampproject.net%2F1911191835190%2Fframe.html

Trump became the spokesman for the Saudi kingdom.

Now imagine the terrorist attack was carried out by a Syrian, an Iranian or even a Libyan.

The worse is if it was carried out by a Mexican immigrant, Ewooo. . Trump would have proposed building a dome to cover the whole of the US instead of just a wall.

People are turning their backs on fake news.

CNN Hits Three-Year Ratings Low Amid Impeachment Drama

https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/05/cnn-impeachment-ratings-trump/

The Democrats' star witness today is literally testifying that Trump should be impeached because his son says he's a "bad person."

YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS UP

Thanks Impeachment: Trump Now Beating Every Democrat In the battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin

https://firehousestrategies.com/analysis/december_2019_battleground_survey/

YOU HAVE THE REPORT SUMMARY HERE

BREAKING: DOJ Inspector General finds that the FBI made 17 "significant inaccuracies and omissions" in the FISA applications to spy on Trump campaign member
@carterwpage
.

The FBI's deceptive manipulations made the evidence appear "stronger than was actually the case."

The IG report shows that:

An FBI lawyer who hated President Trump doctored a document so that it "inaccurately stated" that Trump campaign staffer Carter Page had NOT previously helped another U.S. government agency.

This false information was then presented to the FISA court.

IG report:

"In the preparation of the FISA applications to surveil Carter Page, the Crossfire Hurricane team failed to comply with FBI policies, and in so doing fell short of what is rightfully expected from ... [an] agency entrusted with such an intrusive surveillance tool."

The IG report states:

"We also found basic, fundamental, and serious errors during the completion of the FBl's factual accuracy reviews, known as the Woods Procedures, which are designed to ensure that FISA applications contain a full and accurate presentation of the facts."

"In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source...

"The [IG] found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the [IG] was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the [IG's] report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process. ... With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action."

The IG report states:

Foreign agent Christopher Steele's fake dossier paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign "played a central and essential role in" the Obama-Biden FBI obtaining "FISA surveillance targeting" Trump campaign staffer Carter Page

Full DOJ IG Report into FISA:

https://justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf…

Two biggest IG takeaways so far:
--The FBI deceived the FISA court. The information about what it presented and what it excluded in Page application is damning.

--IG destroys Steele dossier as a work of fantasy.

coluka:
Two biggest IG takeaways so far:
--The FBI deceived the FISA court. The information about what it presented and what it excluded in Page application is damning.

--IG destroys Steele dossier as a work of fantasy.

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1204103540228198401?s=19


Okay boomer!!

coluka:
Two biggest IG takeaways so far:
--The FBI deceived the FISA court. The information about what it presented and what it excluded in Page application is damning.

--IG destroys Steele dossier as a work of fantasy.

Okay so how many people are going to jail from the Obama's administration, since this report has been released?

The IG report blasts the entire chain of command in creation of the Carter Page FISA warrant

FBI Director Christopher Wray says the problems identified in the DOJ Inspector General's report are "unacceptable"

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/9/wray-report-on-russia-probe-found-unacceptable-pro/

On The IG report :

So...the "investigation of the investigators" has FAILED to find any conspiracy to undermine the Trump campaign. Conservative conspiracy theories ARE NOT EVIDENCE of any crimes. The reasons for starting the Russia investigation were thoroughly documented by the Mueller investigation.

Some months back, Trump's own hand picked FBI director said there was nothing there regarding wrongdoing by the FBI in the Russia investigation. The FBI was investigating Russian interference into our elections and they found MULTIPLE suspicious Russian contacts with the Trump campaign.

They were doing EXACTLY what we should expect them to do. We had this investigation because Trump wanted an investigation, plain and simple. This is just another example of Trump ABUSING the powers of the presidency.