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Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 4:31pm On Dec 12, 2019*

solite3:
the bible did not say women should have DEEP RESPECT for men but rather women should SUBMIT TO THEIR Husbands .
Your conclusion is unwarranted and out of point.
My question is still pending
Is the Husband a more superior human than the wife?

Husband and his wife became one flesh {Matthew 19:5} just as God Almighty and Jesus are one. John 10:30

And God's word said the woman (wife/female) should submit to her man (husband/male) and you're still asking who is SUPERIOR human?

Well God's word said to the woman (female) after the rebellion in the garden of Eden "your longing will be for your husband and he will DOMINATE you"! Genesis 3:16

If after they both rebelled against their Creator, the Creator himself could know which will start DOMINATING the other, does that not tell us the one that's SUPERIOR? cheesy

Women have been fighting for gender equality for decades now, is it just about the man and his wife at home?

When God created the animals and all of them were eating straws in the garden of Eden, after man's rebellion which triggered the animals to start DOMINATING one another, are you still confused about superiority between a full grown Lion and a full grown dog? Ecclesiastes 9:4

My friend i'm not to decide for you, it's about reasoning together from the scriptures, that's how Jehovah's Witnesses were trained to have the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} but if you and i don't reach the same conclusion it's OK, you can read, study, meditate and pray over what is written in the Bible on your own!

Just know that God's holy spirit always navigates the minds of his worshippers to the same conclusion after thorough meditation on God's word! Romans 15:5-6, Ephesians 4:3

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 8:44pm On Dec 12, 2019

Maximus69:
Husband and his wife became one flesh {Matthew 19:5} just as God Almighty and Jesus are one. John 10:30

And God's word said the woman (wife/female) should submit to her man (husband/male) and you're still asking who is SUPERIOR human?

Well God's word said to the woman (female) after the rebellion in the garden of Eden "your longing will be for your husband and he will DOMINATE you"! Genesis 3:16

If after they both rebelled against their Creator, the Creator himself could know which will start DOMINATING the other, does that not tell us the one that's SUPERIOR?

Women have been fighting for gender equality for decades now, is it just about the man and his wife at home?

When God created the animals and all of them were eating straws in the garden of Eden, after man's rebellion which triggered the animals to start DOMINATING one another, are you still confused about superiority between a full grown Lion and a full grown dog? Ecclesiastes 9:4

My friend i'm not to decide for you, it's about reasoning together from the scriptures, that's how Jehovah's Witnesses were trained to have the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} but if you and i don't reach the same conclusion it's OK, you can read, study, meditate and pray over what is written in the Bible on your own!

Just know that God's holy spirit always navigates the minds of his worshippers to the same conclusion after thorough meditation on God's word! Romans 15:5-6, Ephesians 4:3

do you know what it means to be a superior human? You are still beating around the bush.
Is man a superior human to woman?
If you are a superior human than woman that means you are more superior than your mother and a lesser being gave birth to you, does this makes sense to you?
The idea of male headship only applys to the church and family, it does not mean the male is a better human. It only means male should be giving leadership which is an opportunity to serve the church and to show love to his wife.

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 9:30pm On Dec 12, 2019

solite3:
do you know what it means to be a superior human? You are still beating around the bush.
Is man a superior human to woman?
If you are a superior human than woman that means you are more superior than your mother and a lesser being gave birth to you, does this makes sense to you?
The idea of male headship only applys to the church and family, it does not mean the male is a better human. It only means male should be giving leadership which is an opportunity to serve the church and to show love to his wife.

The process of birth need not to be overemphasized Sir!

Mary gave birth to Jesus.

Please Sir if you're asked, between Jesus and the woman that gave birth, breastfed and brought him up as a her son, who is superior?

Well in my own opinion, the one created to be superior still remains superior even though God allowed his birth through a lesser one!

In true Christianity, a baptized male Christian must not say "Amen" behind a female no matter the relationship between them be it senior sister, mother, grandmother or great grandmother.
So the man is superior to the woman in all ramifications!

Take it or leave it!

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Janosky: 9:53pm On Dec 12, 2019

solite3:
What is wrong with God being subject to God?

solite3 :

Yes Jesus is Almighty God.

God is said to sware with himself since there is non greater than himself.
God is the head of Christ just as man is the head of the woman.

The satanic scam called Trinity FRAUD drained out the brain that Yahweh gave all of you.
Trinitarians are BRAIN DRAINED. Tueh !!!!!
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Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MuttleyLaff: 9:56pm On Dec 12, 2019

Janosky:
The satanic scam called Trinity FRAUD drained out the brain that Yahweh gave all of you.
Trinitarians are BRAIN DRAINED. Tueh !!!!!
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cc : ken4Christ.
cc : shadeyinka
cc: Ihedinobi3
cc:bingbagbo
cc: Eviana.

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Why has Janosky, laughing upandan the place, like a castrated hyena, lump me in with this list, erhn?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 7:47am On Dec 13, 2019*

Maximus69:
The process of birth need not to be overemphasized Sir!

Mary gave birth to Jesus.

Please Sir if you're asked, between Jesus and the woman that gave birth, breastfed and brought him up as a her son, who is superior?

Well in my own opinion, the one created to be superior still remains superior even though God allowed his birth through a lesser one!

You cant compare Jesus who is Almighty God to mary who is a mere mortal, so your comparison is out of line. I asked you are you superior to your mother? You are only claiming man is a superior human to woman but failed to give reasons for such preposterous assertion.

In true Christianity, a baptized male Christian must not say "Amen" behind a female no matter the relationship between them be it senior sister, mother, grandmother or great grandmother.
So the man is superior to the woman in all ramifications!

Take it or leave it!

is that what your religion teaches? Show me from the bible that a man can't say Amen to a woman's prayer? The man is superior in what ramification? Where did you get it from?

Male and female are completely equal in Christ, there is nothing like a superior class.
What you are vomitting is like saying that Jews are a superior race to the black race.

Headship does not mean being superior or being inferior, it just mean leadership position.
Man is the head of the woman doesnt mean he is a superior human to woman neither God being the head of Christ mean he is a superior God to Christ

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 8:54am On Dec 13, 2019

solite3:
You cant compare Jesus who is Almighty God to mary who is a mere mortal, so your comparison is out of line. I asked you "are you superior to your mother?" You are only claiming man is a superior human to woman but failed to give reasons for such preposterous assertion.

In true Christianity, a baptized male Christian must not say "Amen" behind a female no matter the relationship between them be it senior sister, mother, grandmother or great grandmother.
So the man is superior to the woman in all ramifications!

Take it or leave it!
is that what your religion teaches? Show me from the bible that a man can't say Amen to a woman's prayer? The man is superior in what ramification? Where did you get it from?

Male and female are completely equal in Christ, there is nothing like a superior class.
What you are vomitting is like saying that Jews are a superior race to the black race.

Headship does not mean being superior or being inferior, it just mean leadership position.
Man is the head of the woman doesnt mean he is a superior human to woman neither God being the head of Christ mean he is a superior God to Christ

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Jesus is NOT the Almighty God but a mighty God! Isaiah 9:6

Answer ~ YES Sir!

God created man first and nature itself made us understand that man is superior to woman.

For your information, my own mother respects me and calls me "my husband" because she knows very well that in her father's house, no one fully reckons with her anymore because she's now married and has become a member of another family (her husband's), and guess what quantifies her to be a bonafide member of the new family?

Her marriage and most especially her son who is now an heir to whatever belongs to her husband's family!

That's the TRUTH Sir!

As regards prayer in the Christian congregation, someone will lead in prayer because it's a vital part of sacred services to God and since the Bible made it clear that woman has NO SAY in the midst of males during worship, how do you think a woman will pray for men to say "Amen"?

So it's not what my religion teaches it's written in God's word Sir! 1Timothy 2:12, 1Corinthinans 14:35 wink

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by bingbagbo(m): 10:46am On Dec 13, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
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Why has Janosky, laughing upandan the place, like a castrated hyena, lump me in with this list, erhn?

For the records, I am not trinitarian. God is one and His name is Jesus Christ (1John 5:20; Philippians 2:10; 1 Timothy 3:16 etc).

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MuttleyLaff: 11:06am On Dec 13, 2019

bingbagbo:
For the records, I am not trinitarian. God is one and His name is Jesus Christ (1John 5:20; Philippians 2:10; 1 Timothy 3:16 etc).

He is a court jester, don't mind him

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Janosky: 11:52am On Dec 13, 2019

bingbagbo:
For the records, I am not trinitarian. God is one and His name is Jesus Christ (1John 5:20; Philippians 2:10; 1 Timothy 3:16 etc).

bingbagbo twisting 1John 5:20; Philippians 2:10; 1 Timothy 3:16 etc
* John 6:46 "not that anyone has seen
the Father except the One who is from God;
only He has seen the Father."

John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only
begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he hath declared him ."

John 5:37
And the Father himself, which hath sent me,
hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither
heard his voice at any time, nor seen his
shape."

Between Bingbagbo & Jesus Christ, who is lying?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by bingbagbo(m): 12:10pm On Dec 13, 2019

Janosky:
bingbagbo twisting 1John 5:20; Philippians 2:10; 1 Timothy 3:16 etc
* John 6:46 "not that anyone has seen
the Father except the One who is from God;
only He has seen the Father."

John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only
begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the
Father, he hath declared him ."

John 5:37
And the Father himself, which hath sent me,
hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither
heard his voice at any time, nor seen his
shape."

Between Bingbagbo & Jesus Christ, who is lying?

Anyone That has seen me has seen the Father-Jesus Christ

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 12:11pm On Dec 13, 2019

solite3:
Answer: Speaking of Jesus' Second Coming, Matthew 24:36 (and Mark 13:32) tells us, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

When Jesus spoke these words to the disciples, [b]even He had no knowledge[/b]of the date and time of His return. Although Jesus was fully God (John 1:1, 14), when He became a man, He voluntarily restricted the use of certain divine attributes (Philippians 2:6–8 ). He did not manifest them unless directed by the Father (John 4:34; 5:30; 6:38). He demonstrated His omniscience on several occasions (cf. John 2:25; 3:13), but He voluntarily restricted that omniscience to only those things God wanted Him to know during the days of His humanity (John 15:15). Such was the case regarding the knowledge of the date and time of His return. After He was resurrected, Jesus resumed His full divine knowledge (cf. Matthew 28:18; Acts 1:7).

It is good you have the interest to speak about Christ and His Father. It is commendable. You tried in your effort to provide the answer to this question many keep asking about the belief in Trinity.

However, if we agree that God is three in one, the difficulty it creates with different Bible portions is huge. Let's say, if we agree that God is triune, and as you ve tried to prove, Jesus didn't know when the end will come because he was in the flesh. That's an effort, but notice what Jesus said there, "no one knows", neither angels, nor the son, but the father.' so, ONLY the Father knows.

Now, if we agree with this trinity, I will wonder "why only the Father?" Why is it that the 'Holy Spirit' does not know? Was "he" also in the flesh?

If Jesus does not know when the end will come, can be still be called 'God-man'? Ok, he knew after he was resurrected, but that will mean that he was not fully God when a human. Will it not?

Another thing to ponder: Why is it that Jesus didn't know when the end will come before coming to the Earth? How can we even reasonably say that and omniscient God Jesus, does not know when they end will come? Is that not contradictory?

Matthew 24:36 clearly states that the Father alone knows when Jesus' return will be. Verses such as John 5:30; 6:38; 8:28-29; 10:30; 12:49; 14:28, 31; and Matthew 26:39, 42 demonstrate Jesus' submission to the Father as well as their Oneness in the Godhead. Yes, they are both God. But some things Jesus had apparently chosen to "give up the rights" to be privy to during His earthly ministry (see Philippians 2:5-11). Jesus, now exalted in Heaven, surely knows all, including the timing of His Second Coming.

He gave up rights. The misunderstanding people have with Phil 2;5-7 is understandable. Translation is the problem. However, let's see what we can learn of the future of Jesus, now in heaven for many years, having gotten ALL his rights back. Has he then been equal to God?

See 1cor 15:24 he hands over power and authority to who? Not his equal, but to his "God and Father". So, Jesus continues to view God as not just his Father, but also his God after long stay in heaven. Can God almighty have a God in His heavenly abode? Never!

Again, he is handing over "rights" (as you said) to his Father. This Bible didn't say he was going to take them back, but that God will become all things even to Jesus.

Is it just a case that Jesus was in the flesh that the father had to control him, and he subject to God? The above shows that the answer is no.

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 2:05pm On Dec 13, 2019

JMAN05:
It is good you have the interest to speak about Christ and His Father. It is commendable. You tried in your effort to provide the answer to this question many keep asking about the belief in Trinity.

However, if we agree that God is three in one, the difficulty it creates with different Bible portions is huge. Let's say, if we agree that God is triune, and as you ve tried to prove, Jesus didn't know when the end will come because he was in the flesh. That's an effort, but notice what Jesus said there, "no one knows", neither angels, nor the son, but the father.' so, ONLY the Father knows.

Now, if we agree with this trinity, I will wonder "why only the Father?" Why is it that the 'Holy Spirit' does not know? Was "he" also in the flesh?

The trinity might prove difficult for humans to understand, yes God is infinitely beyond us, humans, if we are to know anything about God it must be base on his own terms. We do not need to fully comprehend God all that is needed is the truth. A two years old can struggle to understand the knowledge of a university professor but the fact he cannot do so doesnt mean it is wrong. The trinity teaching was directly derived from the bible through the revelation of the holy Spirit.
That God exist in three persons but yet one being and one essence is a mystery to human everyday knowledge or understanding but nevertheless biblically true. God is one being but in three distinct or separate individuals who can interact among themselves as separate persons but yet essentially one being God.
example a beam of light consisting of three rays of different colors, each ray is equally light but together is still light the only difference is the color, no color is greater than any

The beam represent God as a being of one essence by the ray of different colors represents the different persons of the Godhead. The trinity together is God Almighty, individually they are still God Almighty

@ bolded the answer to your question lies in the issue of roles, although they can act together as in the case of the creation of man in Genesis or they can take on roles. The work of Salvation for example, was done base on different roles, there are things met only for the father, likewise things met for the Son and things met only for the Spirit. One of such is the times and seasons for the fulfillment of specific plans which was met for the father. Note carefully, that Jesus said no man, no angel, himself but the father only he did not mention the holy Spirit, so his saying only the father he is certainly not excluding the holy Spirit but excluding those he mentioned.

For example,

Matthew 21:19
And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.

Matthew recorded that Jesus saw only the leaves. Does that mean Jesus didnt see the branch, trunk or pehaps the roots. In other to understand scriptural passages we need to read contextually and in this case the issue was Jesus was looking for the fruit and since in most cases the fruit was wrapped in the leaves which he was supposed to see but he saw only the leaves with no fruit.

If Jesus does not know when the end will come, can be still be called 'God-man'? Ok, he knew after he was resurrected, but that will mean that he was not fully God when a human. Will it not?

Jesus is called the God-man because he has both the human nathure and the God nature. As a man he was less than God, not omniscent or omnipotent, was hungry, he was just as you and I but the difference was that he had no sin and never committed any sin, in fact needed the power of the holy Spirit so he could fulfill his ministry and he himself often fast and pray before he could do some miracles.

As the God-man he could restrict himself as a man or as God, He was fully God and fully man.

Another thing to ponder: Why is it that Jesus didn't know when the end will come before coming to the Earth? How can we even reasonably say that and omniscient God Jesus, does not know when they end will come? Is that not contradictory?

@bolded, how do you mean, Jesus was already on earth when he said he does not know the time of his coming. It is not contradictory that Jesus does not know when he would come.

He gave up rights. The misunderstanding people have with Phil 2;5-7 is understandable. Translation is the problem. However, let's see what we can learn of the future of Jesus, now in heaven for many years, having gotten ALL his rights back. Has he then been equal to God?

See 1cor 15:24 he hands over power and authority to who? Not his equal, but to his "God and Father". So, Jesus continues to view God as not just his Father, but also his God after long stay in heaven. Can God almighty have a God in His heavenly abode? Never!

Again, he is handing over "rights" (as you said) to his Father. This Bible didn't say he was going to take them back, but that God will become all things even to Jesus.

Is it just a case that Jesus was in the flesh that the father had to control him, and he subject to God? The above shows that the answer is no.

the rights Jesus received was his honor ,glory and authority and his right to reign as the Christ.
After the resurrection of Jesus he was a still a man but this time around a glorified man hence the term the glorified Christ.
After all things has being completed, it is his kingdom as the christ that would be handed over to the Father and his humanity would forever be made subject under the father so that God would be the defining factor in all ways and in everything.

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Ken4Christ: 10:52pm On Dec 13, 2019

Maximus69:
The bolded is WRONG Sir!

According to Jesus, he is going to prepare another place for his corulers {John 14:2-4} whose original home and sit of government has been profaned with the blood of God's servants and also the blood of God's only begotten son! Matthew 23:37-38

So the earth is man's permanent home Sir NOT heaven. Psalms 37:9-11,29, 115:16, Isaiah 65:21-23, Matthew 5:5,

That's why Jesus asked his faithful followers to continue praying for God's kingdom to come {Matthew 6:10} note that he didn't say ~

"our father who lives in heaven, may you name be held holy may we come to join you in heaven"

Rather Jesus' prayer is

"Our father who lives in heaven, may your name be held holy MAY YOUR KINGDOM (GOVERNMENT) COME, so that your will may take place on earth as it is happening in heaven" Matthew 6:9-10

Those going to heaven are born again Christians, they will no more live like humans but as spirit beings so they will not have wives and children like what all of you are dying to have now, the will become God's children like angels who are also spirit beings in God's form! Luke 20:36-38 compared to Genesis 6:1 and Job 1:6

But the rest of mankind (including Christians who are not part of the corulers of Christ) will continue to live according to God's original plan for man to marry,have children and subdue all other creatures here on earth! Genesis 1:26-28 Isaiah 65:21-25

So study your Bible diligently and stop following credulous misinformed churchgoers Sir!

If you are not born again, you are not a Christian and you are not part of God's family.

Every born again (Christians that are saved) will be caught up to meet with Jesus in the sky. The dead in Christ will rise first and we will all be changed, given a glorified body.

But after successive events, we will live and reign with Christ in the new heaven and new Earth which will be merged into one entity.

Please, your JW doctrines are false and misleading. You don't even know Jesus so why would you expect him to come and take you home. Only his sheep hears his voice and follows. Give your life to Jesus first otherwise, you will end up in the pit of hell you don't believe exist.

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Janosky: 7:57am On Dec 14, 2019

Ken4Christ:
If you are not born again, you are not a Christian and you are not part of God's family.

Every born again (Christians that are saved) will be caught up to meet with Jesus in the sky. The dead in Christ will rise first and we will all be changed, given a glorified body.

But after successive events, we will live and reign with Christ in the new heaven and new Earth which will be merged into one entity.

Please, your JW doctrines are false and misleading. You don't even know Jesus so why would you expect him to come and take you home. Only his sheep hears his voice and follows. Give your life to Jesus first otherwise, you will end up in the pit of hell you don't believe exist.

Just deh there deh deceive yourself.
Where is your proof that Adam "end up in the pit of hell" suffering eternal torture ?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 8:01am On Dec 14, 2019

solite3:
spot on! There are things kept only for the knowledge of the father. It shows that there are distinct roles within the trinity.

So holy spirit doesn't know ?

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Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 8:04am On Dec 14, 2019

solite3:
does it also mean that the woman is inferior to the man?
Yes Jesus is Almighty God.

yes you got problem with that?
Buhari is the political head of all Nigerians does that mean buhari is a higher human being than you?
You have a boss you work under why do you still submit to your boss if both of you are humans equally.
The father being the head of Christ is a role it does not translate to the father being a higher God than Jesus.

Trying to prove equality by nature will backfire greatly, Does the fact that humans share in God's divine NATURE too make them equal to him ?

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Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 8:07am On Dec 14, 2019

solite3:
my analogy is on point, although the man being the head of his wife means a man has superior authority but it does not mean he is a superior human to his wife.

What is wrong with God being subject to God? God is said to sware with himself since there is non greater than himself. So according to you God is less than himself for doing so?
God is the head of Christ just as man is the head of the woman, I will only take you serious if you say man is a superior human than his wife.

Almighty God cannot be subjected to anyone, been subjected means someone exist that's Greater than you. That bolded is the Father .

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Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 8:10am On Dec 14, 2019

solite3:
do you know what it means to be a superior human? You are still beating around the bush.
Is man a superior human to woman?
If you are a superior human than woman that means you are more superior than your mother and a lesser being gave birth to you, does this makes sense to you?
The idea of male headship only applys to the church and family, it does not mean the male is a better human. It only means male should be giving leadership which is an opportunity to serve the church and to show love to his wife.

God and humans share Divine nature, therefore they are EQUAL , agree ?

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Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Janosky: 8:13am On Dec 14, 2019

bingbagbo:
Anyone That has seen me has seen the Father-Jesus Christ

Matt 10:40 "He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me."
1 Cor 3:23 "and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God."
LEAVE THAT FRAUD you believe in.

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 8:17am On Dec 14, 2019

Maximus69:
Husband and his wife became one flesh {Matthew 19:5} just as God Almighty and Jesus are one. John 10:30

And God's word said the woman (wife/female) should submit to her man (husband/male) and you're still asking who is SUPERIOR human?

Well God's word said to the woman (female) after the rebellion in the garden of Eden "your longing will be for your husband and he will DOMINATE you"! Genesis 3:16

If after they both rebelled against their Creator, the Creator himself could know which will start DOMINATING the other, does that not tell us the one that's SUPERIOR?

Women have been fighting for gender equality for decades now, is it just about the man and his wife at home?

When God created the animals and all of them were eating straws in the garden of Eden, after man's rebellion which triggered the animals to start DOMINATING one another, are you still confused about superiority between a full grown Lion and a full grown dog? Ecclesiastes 9:4

My friend i'm not to decide for you, it's about reasoning together from the scriptures, that's how Jehovah's Witnesses were trained to have the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} but if you and i don't reach the same conclusion it's OK, you can read, study, meditate and pray over what is written in the Bible on your own!

Just know that God's holy spirit always navigates the minds of his worshippers to the same conclusion after thorough meditation on God's word! Romans 15:5-6, Ephesians 4:3

Brother, I get him clearly .. he is trying to say all humans are equal because they share the same NATURE . If that's the case, I will like solite3 to respond to this : God and HUmans are equal because they both share divine nature ?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 9:25am On Dec 14, 2019

Barristter07:
Trying to prove equality by nature will backfire greatly, Does the fact that humans share in God's divine NATURE too make them equal to him ?

share in the divine nature in what way?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 9:26am On Dec 14, 2019

Barristter07:
So holy spirit doesn't know ?

did Jesus mention holy Spirit?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 9:27am On Dec 14, 2019

Barristter07:
Almighty God cannot be subjected to anyone, been subjected means someone exist that's Greater than you. That bolded is the Father .

Almighty God can be subject to himself .

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 9:38am On Dec 14, 2019

Barristter07:
God and humans share Divine nature, therefore they are EQUAL , agree ?

Sharing in his divine nature in 2 peter 1v4, does not imply to have the very essence of God.there is something called implied meaning, which is different from dictionary meaning.

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 10:22am On Dec 14, 2019

Ken4Christ:
If you are not born again, you are not a Christian and you are not part of God's family.

Every born again (Christians that are saved) will be caught up to meet with Jesus in the sky. The dead in Christ will rise first and we will all be changed, given a glorified body.

But after successive events, we will live and reign with Christ in the new heaven and new Earth which will be merged into one entity.

Please, your JW doctrines are false and misleading. You don't even know Jesus so why would you expect him to come and take you home. Only his sheep hears his voice and follows. Give your life to Jesus first otherwise, you will end up in the pit of hell you don't believe exist.

OK i see, heaven and earth will join together on planet "Ken4Christ"

Hmmmmmmmmm

You understand too much my friend, just that you can't go out to your neighbor's homes to preach and teach them all these ideas in your head.

Perhaps you need more holy ghost to spur you with zeal so that people can SEE your religious group {Matthew 5:14-16} just as they're seeing Jehovah's Witnesses in their homes throughout the earth! Matthew 10:11-15, 24:14 wink

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 11:29am On Dec 14, 2019

solite3:
Sharing in his divine nature in 2 peter 1v4, does not imply to have the very essence of God.there is something called implied meaning, which is different from dictionary meaning.

Liars have a way of trying to run when caught red handed , The point is Humans have the Divine nature of God , Are they Equal ?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 11:34am On Dec 14, 2019

solite3:
Almighty God can be subject to himself .

Not another person ? .. Am expecting you to say Subjected to another person since you are not wise, So Is Jesus subjected to himself or His Father [another person] ?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 2:03pm On Dec 14, 2019

Barristter07:
Liars have a way of trying to run when caught red handed , The point is Humans have the Divine nature of God, Are they Equal ?

@ bolded you are the liar here, nowhere does it say humans have the Divine nature of God.

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 2:04pm On Dec 14, 2019

Barristter07:

Not another person ? .. Am expecting you to say Subjected to another person since you are not wise, So Is Jesus subjected to himself or His Father [another person] ?

where is it in the bible that God is not subject to another person?

Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 2:34pm On Dec 14, 2019

solite3:
@ bolded you are the liar here, nowhere does it say humans have the Divine nature of God.

Humans are sharers of DIVINE NATURE. You are the liar , Just as You and I share the same human nature, Humans also share the same Divine nature with God. 2Pet 1:4 . I demand an answer: Are they not EQUAL with God ?

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Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 2:41pm On Dec 14, 2019

solite3:
did Jesus mention holy Spirit?

Then are you disputing it's not among the " Nobody knows " ? Either it's a person and among the Nobody that knows or it's not even a person thus omitted

Only the Father knows, agree ?

Or do you mean Jesus lied only the Father knows ? If holy spirit ( another person in this case ) also know.

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