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Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by YoungLionken(m): 6:42am On Dec 17, 2019 |
Please, I would want you to think critically before answering these simple but deep questions in all honesty. I'm a Christian by faith. You know, often times, we talk about God's blessings,favours and protection,etc. But it's not different from what pagans and others enjoy too. A Christian gets a job and attribute it to God,in a company where an atheist is the director. Christians as well die in auto/plane crash, just like others. In Nigeria, Christians are suffering under the government of a muslim president, in which the vice isn't just a Christian, but a Clergy. Check the statistics of richest people in the world,then know the position of Christians. We read the Bible of how signs and wonders happen physically and instantly (especially the old testament),but can we say same of it today. There are alot to say but lemme hold it here. 1)So what special blessing, favor and so,have you received that made you believe more in Christ? 2)Apart from the Bible,what other special proof do you have to prove God's existence? 1 Like |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by Shelumiel: 7:22am On Dec 17, 2019 |
How come this question is thrown at the servants of Allah or other religions ? And secondly why must Christians be the focus of your biased questions ? |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by paxonel(m): 7:27am On Dec 17, 2019 |
Very valid questions but a lot on Christians will not like the answers to these questions because the answers does not meet up to their wicked expections and desires. YoungLionken:there is a scripture that explains this : Matthew 5:45 ...For He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. If God is not biased but blessed the good and the bad equally what will make a Christian think that God should favor him first over an atheist or a Muslim who is not bad? You see why i say the desires and expections of most Christians are wicked? that was in the old testament! Things are better now we don't need God's supernatural interventions in our affairs anymore, how long will God continue to do that? Matthew 23:37 ...how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (a parable which means how long will God intervene in the affairs of the isrealites supernaturally or otherwise as he did in the old testament). So, miracles, signs and wonders wasn't meant to last forever, only love which is greater than miracles was meant to last forever. we believe in Christ for eternal life, nothing more. John 3:16. Life is more important blessing than supernatural interventions. We just keep seeking for more like Oliver twist, we will never get anything but life. whatever we do with the life that we receive will now determine our blessing. the fact that Christianity is the largest religion currently on earth is enough proof of God's existence. 1 Like |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by dawnomike(m): 7:56am On Dec 17, 2019 |
We are not christians because we see proofs... In fact, most times if not most times we all sometimes feel as though God is not there when we consider things we go through. We are Christians because we BELIEVE God saved us through Christ. Christ said "In this world you will face tribulations... But rejoice fpr i have overcome the world" I have been healed miraculously of so many things e.g 3 years ago i was miraculously healed of a kidney problem and i can count so many more... That is not what makes me believe in God. I WILL STILL BELIEVE EVEN IF THE KIDNEY PROBLEM HAD TAKEN ME TO THE PATH OF DEATH!!! That is the way of a Believer. As a muslim do not be offended by Op's question - A muslim friend once told me that no one knows the perfect religion because we all are mostly Christian or Muslim because we were born into a christian/muslim families... He was right about it for me then until I sat back and decided what and who to believe... I have seen even muslims pray and experience miracles and i have a lot as friends...It is all about your personal conviction NB: I am not a fanatic and the above is my personal Opinion. Thanks 4 Likes |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by YoungLionken(m): 8:00am On Dec 18, 2019 |
Shelumiel: Because I'm a Christian, I only know about my own... |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by YoungLionken(m): 8:03am On Dec 18, 2019 |
dawnomike: Thanks,your opinion made a lot of sense. But why would you even believe without proof? |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by YoungLionken(m): 8:07am On Dec 18, 2019 |
paxonel: Your explanations are accurate. But I think we still need God's intervention in the affairs of the country now more than before... |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by sonmvayina(m): 8:26am On Dec 18, 2019 |
God is the totality of existence it self... We are part of him and he is part of us..... He is consciousness personified... |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by paxonel(m): 8:37am On Dec 18, 2019 |
YoungLionken:very true! We all need God's intervention. Even the United states, Britain, China and other developed nations who don't have the kind of problems found in Africa, they all have their problems that require God's intervention. That's why, the only thing we can do is just to pray. But when we pray, pray, pray and there are no answers do we blame God? The answer is no! Rather, we should start thinking solutions to our problems by ourselves just like other nations are doing. 1 Like |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by CaveAdullam: 4:52pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
1.Creations. 2. His Name. |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by Aspiringstudent: 5:42pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
CaveAdullam:how do you know what created everything? We evolve from bacteria billions of years and if you ask how do I know you're just ignorant,you can do your research... What's so special about that name ? His name cannot dispense money from the ATM or miraculous heal something under close watch . |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by YoungLionken(m): 7:21pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
paxonel: You know, I couldn't agree more with your assertion. High star! 1 Like |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by YoungLionken(m): 7:23pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
sonmvayina: You didn't answer the questions appropriately... |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by YoungLionken(m): 7:24pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
CaveAdullam: Not valid |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by CaveAdullam: 8:39pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
YoungLionken:from which benchmark? |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by CaveAdullam: 8:42pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
Aspiringstudent:Name of the first bacteria? Aspiringstudent:What does not exist does not have a name. Next please. 1 Like |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:55pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
I will like to come in here sir. CaveAdullam: Was God created? How did he came into existence? CaveAdullam: Yeti is a name of an animal that exist only in the imaginations of those that believe in mythical figures. It doesn't exist. |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by khia: 11:07pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
paxonel:It only proves that a lot of people are brainwashed. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by YoungLionken(m): 6:01am On Dec 19, 2019 |
CaveAdullam: The questions |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by paxonel(m): 7:23am On Dec 19, 2019 |
khia:for how long, since approximately 2000 years ago? Let's look at it this way, there was a time when the church used to teach people that the earth is flat, a lot of people believed that error and that is brainwashing but that didn't take long before the truth came out. You cannot brainwash mankind for a long period as 2000 years it's not possible. Especially now that people are embarking on research and new ideas and knowledge are being discovered. 1 Like |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by CaveAdullam: 10:58am On Dec 19, 2019 |
FOLYKAZE:What do you think is meaning/definition of God according to the dictionary? FOLYKAZE:Did you tell them to show you yeti? |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:52pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
CaveAdullam: God is someone or something that is particularly revered, worship, admired, idealised and/or followed. God is that sense could be anything in as much more value is added to it. Eg, money: the God of ages. In all sides, the above definition is a about a 'thing or person' called God which is within existence, caused or created. Tell us about how your own God is caused, came into existence or created? Where did he get the material needed for his creations? Where was he before he created heaven and earth? CaveAdullam: Yes. There is a book about the animal. I also have some movies on my laptop here about it. So many people believe Yeti exist on month everest. Just to show you, that some fictional character have a name doesn't mean they truly exist. |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by CaveAdullam: 3:23pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
FOLYKAZE:So can we now agree that God is a person and not only a thing or just a person entirely? FOLYKAZE:About my own God? Lets first come to a conclusion if God is a person, a thing, both or any. FOLYKAZE:Not book, not laptop. Have you personally questioned the people living near Mount Everest about yeti? FOLYKAZE:What makes you think yeti is a fictional character? Is it because you have not seen or touched it? |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:31pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
CaveAdullam: God can be anything. It can be Tree, River, Mountain, Sun or Human. CaveAdullam: No, we should get in business right away. You are telling us that creation is a prove that God does exist. It is now your duty to explain to us how your own God came into existence. Was He also created by a SUPER-God? CaveAdullam: People in Nepal, Russia and surrounding countries believe there is a monsterious creation living on Mount Everest. They have used footprints, scraps, hair and other unexplainable stuff found on the mountain to justify their claims. Alot of researchers have worked on unravelling this msystery many years ago. However, the conclusion on these investugations havent stopped these folks from either worshipping Yeti or believing a Ape-Man figure lives on the Mountain. The point here is that the fictional figure doesnt exist, and it does have a name. This is a fact that negate your position, and also juxtapose that your God might have a name but that doesnt affirm it existence. CaveAdullam: Just like your God, there is no iota of evidence or fact to posit that he does exist. nevertheless, Yeti in movies is friendly to kids 2 Likes |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by oaroloye(m): 5:52pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
MISHIGAS! YoungLionken: You are not a Christian, neither do you have any "FAITH." You could be a member of a Colonial Imperialism Organization that calls itself "Christian," but you are simply not Christian. Reverend BILLY GRAHAM was an ANTI-PENTECOSTAL BAPTIST "EVANGELICAL" Church Preacher for over fifty years, before coming out to say that "JESUS CHRIST IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN." The Roman Catholic Church and Anglican Church are as riddled with Freemasonry as White Beans are riddled with weevils, and have been known for waging war on each other for centuries, perpetrating TransAtlantic Colonialism and Abominable Kidnap-Slavery- yet they call themselves "Christians." Lord Yeshua will surely denounce these Organizations as people he never knew. So, you are definitely nothing but a cynical hypocrite and liar, to call yourself a "Christian." YoungLionken: A Christian would not say that. A member of the last Church I briefly joined- FRANKLIN HALL FOUNDATION- testified of having encountered the Ministry through a booklet on Fasting given to him as he served on an aircraft carrier- the USS LAKE CHAMPLAIN, in 1953. He had not wanted to do with the book, but two attempts to get rid of it proved abortive, as people mysteriously kept bringing it back to him. He finally relented, and reading it, saw that it told how to go on Fasts of various lengths. He opted for trying a 21-day Fast, and began to experience the "HOLY GHOST FIRE" phenomenon characteristic of the Franklin Hall Minsitry. Toward the end of the Fast, there was an accident in the Catapult Room, in which he was stationed- the Gasoline went up, and engulfed them all in flame. There was nowhere to run to; the sailor, KEN CANTRELL witnessed his dozen fellow crewmen burn to death before his eyes, helpless to do anything to save them. Whereas, he himself could not even feel the heat of the flames. Not even his clothes singed. He walked around in the chamber for half an hour, not knowing what to do, then a Voice spoke to him, telling him not to be afraid, but to simply leave. He picked up the red-hot Dog-Wrench, and opened the red-hot door, without injury, and walked up the corridor, onto the deck- the sole survivor. The Pope even commented on the incident, and called it "a modern-day miracle." Ken Cantrell got ordained, and went around America giving his testimony in Franklin Hall's Churches. I saw a picture of him doing that. Today, the US NAVY denies that that incident ever took place, and has declared all the details of the event to be false. (They said that the fire was very minor, and that there was no loss of life. They said that Crewman Cantrell was not only not on duty that day, but was even AWOL.) [See: www.snopes.com.] In another, unrelated testimony of the church, a sister was attacked by a maniac who stabbed her repeatedly in the throat with a fork, until he fell back in exhaustion. The sister felt no pain, but the fire of the Holy Ghost about her neck. Her throat was unharmed, but the fork was bent double! Local members have testified of being attacked by Dogs and Machete Wielding Vigilantes returning from vigil in Lagos, which never did them any harm whatsoever. ONLY A COMPLETE IDIOT WILL SAY THAT THESE MIRACLES ARE LIKE WHAT UNBELIEVERS EXPERIENCE! YoungLionken: PATRIARCH YOSEF and PROPHET DANIEL were both Slaves under Pagans, and ended up running their coutries for them. What is your point? LET UNBELIEVERS GO TO THE HASSLE OF INVENTING AND BUILDING UNNECESSARY BUSINESSES AND EMPIRES- THEY THEN FIND THAT THEY CAN RUN THEM BEST WITH ERSATZ CHRISTIANS AS THEIR EMPLOYEES. Whereas, Christians serving the World cannot serve God at the same time. They pay for this in falling short of Ful Spiritual Fruits- they can never bring any Fruit to maturity, as Lord Yeshua warned. YoungLionken: THOSE AREN'T CHRISTIANS, YOU IDIOT! A Christian would never say that they were. YoungLionken: NOW I DOUBT THAT YOU ARE EVEN A NIGERIAN. Christians cannot practically serve as Rulers. What sort of country would we anyone have, if all their criminals were forgiven? YoungLionken: WEALTH IS A SURE SIGN OF HIGH SECULARITY AND HYPOCRISY. If I wanted to abuse The Bible to become wealthy, I know better than most, how to go about it. That is not what Lord Yeshua died for. Whereas, I was literally expecting to die from illness in the next two years, before my conversion, but Lord Yeshua's Gospel Healed me. Others with my condition, and access to better treatment thna me, having more money, died. FAITH HEALED ME: Unbelievers cannot experience that! One of the World's richest businessmen, STEVE JOBS, died of Cancer. Fasting as described in The Gospels, can heal 98% of illnesses and ailments- including Cancer- without any further Medical Assistance. Yet, for all his Riches, Steve Jobs had no one around him, who could tell him that. YoungLionken: SIGNS, WONDERS, AND MIRACLES HAPPEN TO FULL GOSPEL CHRISTIANS ON A DAILY BASIS. This is how we know that you are not a real Christian. YoungLionken: YOU HAVE ALREADY TALKED ENOUGH TO FORFEIT SALVATION- NO NEED TO CONTINUE! YoungLionken: A REAL CHRISTIAN WOULD NOT DECLARE LORD YESHUA TO BE THE CHRIST- WHEN HE SPECIFICALLY FORBADE IT! I personally experienced HOLY GHOST "GIFTS," so that I know The Gospel to be true. That is because I practically-applied its instructions- unlike YOU. YoungLionken: NO CHRISTIAN WOULD REQUIRE "SPECIAL PROOF" OF GOD'S EXISTENCE. Why should I serve God, if I did not believe in His Existence? I know myself to be a Sinner, and that it is MY PLACE to humbly SUBMIT myself to HIS WILL. Lord Yeshua said that if we willingly do His Will, we will know what words come from Him, and which do not. You are a pathetic creature, who do not believe in Righteousness, and have committed deliberate Sins, which have blocked you from perceiving God and His Kingdom- and you are so wicked, that you are still trying to instst that it is GOD'S FAULT- for not giving you special proof of His Existence, before you keep His Commandments. You don't want to worship nor obey God because you think that it is THE RIGHT THING TO DO- you DON'T. You will only do those things, if it is proven to you that the Entity to punish you for not doing them really does exist, after all. 1 Like |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by CaveAdullam: 6:23pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
FOLYKAZE:So if we go with the dictionary meaning of God it means no one is wrong, that is God exists, even though everyone claim theirs is genuine, because the book recorded it. At least with the dictionary meaning God exists be it a thing or a person. The book is strict concerning this meaning and we must abide by it if we truly believe it words. FOLYKAZE:My God is an uncreated eternal being who also plays the perfect role of a creator. FOLYKAZE:my question still remains, is it because you have not seen or touched yeti that made you believed it just a mere fictional character? |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:05pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
CaveAdullam: The definition applies to things that exist and also non existing figures. CaveAdullam: Uncreated eternal being is as fictional as Yeti which lives on mount Everest. The appellage is useless as it creates for yoou so many problems. Top which is something coming out of NOTHING. If you aint seeing yourself trapped, the definition aboved shows God is something, and you are telling us here that he is uncreated which mean he popped out of nothing. Can you now explain how something came out of nothing? CaveAdullam: It is because there is no factual evidence to butrress that such being exist 1 Like |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by CaveAdullam: 9:06pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
FOLYKAZE:If the dictionary can give me a reasonable meaning then I will stick with it. The book didn't affirms God as a non existing figure but is very sure that He is either a thing, person, spirit or being. FOLYKAZE:It does not give me a problem except for you and your colleagues that deals with gross matters. How come did the dictionary came up with the two words uncreated and eternal? Is there really anything like this? Who/what can be uncreated and eternal? or is the dictionary not sure about itself or a liar? FOLYKAZE:God is an uncreated and eternal being. According to the dictionary He can be a spirit or being. And if you crosscheck your dictionary very well you will see striking qualities that made acquired that feat. So therefore He can come out of nothing to be a something. FOLYKAZE:My question still remains, is it because you have not seen and touched yeti that made you believed it does not exist? |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by FOLYKAZE(m): 9:36pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
CaveAdullam: Supernatural beings are non existents, yet they are God. Did Zeus exist? CaveAdullam: No dictionary defines God as uncreated eternal, it is your own superficial making. CaveAdullam: What sort of nonsense is this? God is spirit therefore he can come from nothing. Where does the spirit comes from? Nothingness? CaveAdullam: Yeti, just like your God does not exist because there is no factual evidence to prove it existence |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by khia: 3:20am On Dec 20, 2019 |
paxonel: Of course it's possible, people have been lied to about the story of baby Jesus and his parents for over 2000 years. The story of the character baby Jesus is a re-creation of the Egyptian God that was created over 2000 years before the fairytale of white Jesus was made-up. The story of the Egyptian God's birth is the exact same story of fake white baby Jesus. These are lies that people have been told over many centuries and they still believe. 1. The Messiah is Jesus. 2. Jesus is God. 3. Christmas is the birthday of the saviour of the world. 4. Jesus died on the cross. 5. Jesus resurrection. 6. Jesus died for our sins. 7. Santa Claus. 8. The Easter Bunny. 9. Mohammed. 10. Allah. |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by Bigcowhorn: 4:01am On Dec 20, 2019 |
khia: Babe, I know you are incredibly knowledgeable in these things but you're basically saying religion is trash Hell, Jesus isn't even a white guy. He's a brown guy... a jew! No one ever disputed that except a few raciest Painters. |
Re: Who Else Have Had That Special Proof About God's Existence? by paxonel(m): 4:20am On Dec 20, 2019 |
khia:OK, do you have a story of the Egyptian gods that you know? May be you should post a copy or link here to prove what you are saying that the story is exactly the same as that of Jesus birth. |
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