Macauley07:
Dear NL.
Recently, I was offered admission into a federal university to study psychology. I've always wanted to be a lecturer, so I opted for a course that wouldn't be much of a problem to me. My plan is to give in my best so as to come out excellent, go for my Masters abroad and venture into lecturing.

The problem here is: my parent doesn't buy the idea. They keep saying that landing a lecturing job is hard to come bye these days, that I might end up being disappointed. Moreover, a course such as psychology isn't one to expect any thing good from, especially here in Nigeria.

Now they are pleading I consider Nursing, according to them, I stand a higher chance of getting a job in a nursing profession to psychology. They are planning on sending me out of the country after the program. Should I just dash off my dream of becoming a lecturer to pursue nursing?

I love being around young people, and being in a university setting as a lecturer gives me that privilege to teach, mentor and guide them and at the same time work on my self. I think I'll find fulfilment as an academic. I'm confused, what would you advise me, if I were to be your brother?
Thanks

You can be a lecturer as a nurse. Are you aware of this

IDERAWOLE:


Remember the purpose of his write up here. Convincing his parents to support his dreams! Definitely, it's not having passion for being around and teaching young people that I called pedestrian, surely not. If you're a parent, you'll surely want something more concrete than this as the reason for going into academics than nursing.

Hope I'm clear!

I understand. But if I were him I wouldn't even mention anything like that at all to his parents.

Talking about statehood and the children of tomorrow bla bla will only scare them even more because it will make him sound like even more of an unrealistic dreamer.

He should just avoid that side entirely and keep it to himself as a motivator or an interview answer because nobody's parents want to hear that

Macauley07:
Dear NL.
Recently, I was offered admission into a federal university to study psychology. I've always wanted to be a lecturer, so I opted for a course that wouldn't be much of a problem to me. My plan is to give in my best so as to come out excellent, go for my Masters abroad and venture into lecturing.

The problem here is: my parent doesn't buy the idea. They keep saying that landing a lecturing job is hard to come bye these days, that I might end up being disappointed. Moreover, a course such as psychology isn't one to expect any thing good from, especially here in Nigeria.

Now they are pleading I consider Nursing, according to them, I stand a higher chance of getting a job in a nursing profession to psychology. They are planning on sending me out of the country after the program. Should I just dash off my dream of becoming a lecturer to pursue nursing?

I love being around young people, and being in a university setting as a lecturer gives me that privilege to teach, mentor and guide them and at the same time work on my self. I think I'll find fulfilment as an academic. I'm confused, what would you advise me, if I were to be your brother?
Thanks

Do you. Nursing would have been a better option, but many successful people didn’t do nursing to be successful. You could be successful in other fields. All you have to do is be happy.

deuzgreat:

PhD I'd not proper education, you well so?

He meant the guy still searching for WAEC result na.

See where he wrote zoologist or.....

AreaFada2:
Nope! Maybe the obsolete machines still in use in some parts of 9ja. You screen yourself properly from radiation. Radioactivity is measured in the areas around work to check for risk.

Depends on what you do, you might be mostly using ultra-sound machines even. Virtally no harm.

Okay o...I see a lot of people studying but I think too much movie has spoilt my mind

midnighter:


This is great

But I disagree with the bolded. Entering healthcare out of pragmatism doesn't automatically mean that the person will have a terrible time. They may come to enjoy it later on or at least just see it as a means to an end. It doesn't necessarily mean the person will start going psycho on their patients

Healthcare is a calling for some but a saving grace for others

Well we are all pragmatic to an extent, but in healthcare it shouldn't be the over-riding factor. Because by the time you find out that you're not fulfilled in it, you might have put in 10 years of training and education already. Too late to leave it. So you soldier on doing the bare mininum, while enjoying the prestige and rewards. People are different sha.

So why do you there's this impression in 9ja that healthcare staff are mostly wicked and heartless? Can poor working conditions and our culture of rudeness when in a prestigious position alone explain it?

Cousin9999:


However, if you're willing to be a nurse, consider becoming a physician assistant. There's a fair amount of overlap, but PAs make more money. They also have a growing role as healthcare restructures internationally.

Can you please explain the relevance of these people because nobody I know takes the profession serious. What do they do exactly

deuzgreat:

PhD I'd not proper education, you well so?

I should be asking if you are the one whose temperature has not risen beyond normal. Is the zoologist the only one who fits in that category? Don't you have another president whose certificate is a mystery till date? Or does the latter have a PhD in Torment Technology? For the mention, I didn't ridicule GEJ, I also have a degree in zoology.

midnighter:


Okay o...I see a lot of people studying but I think too much movie has spoilt my mind

Most likely, But most schools do not offer it anyway.

AreaFada2:


Well we are all pragmatic to an extent, but in healthcare it shouldn't be the over-riding factor. Because by the time you find out that you're not fulfilled in it, you might have put in 10 years of training and education already. Too late to leave it. So you soldier on doing the bare mininum, while enjoying the prestige and rewards. People are different sha.

So why do you there's this impression in 9ja that healthcare staff are mostly wicked and heartless? Can poor working conditions and our culture of rudeness when in a prestigious position alone explain it?

Yes, you have a point there. I just believe there is more to being a monster nurse than lack of passion for the job because most people are adaptable.

Yes, that explains it. Plus lack of accountability and poor company culture. In any serious healthcare organisation there are supposed to be aims and objectives centred around respecting, valuing and understanding the patients and their needs while maintaining your integrity as a professional.

And checks and balances that stop patients from overstepping their boundaries and venting their frustrations on workers.

There are literally whole university courses dedicated to this but I don't know where ours got lost smh

AreaFada2:


Most likely, But most schools do not offer it anyway.

Okay

Blissbath:
D earn ver well...i dnt mean all dose skull of nursing wit RN credential.Bnsc is d way forward

What do u know.
BNSc is not the way forward and they dont earn more than those that went to school of nursing with RN. Any private hospital that will employ them is not interested in whether its RN or BNsc. They will still earn between the usual 40K to 60K per month

School of nursing or soil science in the universoty, which one is preferable??

As a man and a nurse that i am i will advice u to make careful research and deliberations on which is better for you because nursing in Nigeria is frustrating , me personally am looking for a way to migrate so abeg anybody here that can help me sef i need am ASAP
But since u have sponsorship that ur parents are even willing to send u abroad then go for nursing but i must warn u about the messy things u will do even as a nursing student like blood, faeces and packing a corpse if u have the stomach for that alryt, another thing u must know is that is that getting admission to study nursing in the university is difficult save for the private universities... Well goodluck sha

cococandy:
Honestly nursing is better for you.

Both home and abroad. If you find your way to move outside the country and come to say USA for example, you won’t regret the decision.

With nursing you can do whatever you want to do.
Researcher, lecturer, hospital floor nursing, critical care, emergency care, case manager (like a social worker), pediatrics, the list is endless.

Over correct is worrying you here, you are 101% correct

midnighter:


Yes, you have a point there. I just believe there is more to being a monster nurse than lack of passion for the job because most people are adaptable.

Yes, that explains it. Plus lack of accountability and poor company culture. In any serious healthcare organisation there are supposed to be aims and objectives centred around respecting, valuing and understanding the patients and their needs while maintaining your integrity as a professional.

And checks and balances that stop patients from overstepping their boundaries and venting their frustrations on workers.

There are literally whole university courses dedicated to this but I don't know where ours got lost smh

Well, I don't know. I only hear of how Nigerians complain about medical/healthcare people. Even hear on NL. I was not educated in 9ja and I do not work in 9ja.
In a place like UK, any little thing can earn you a disciplinary hearing by GMC or NMC for nurse or HPC for other allied.

You know many things we do are just to fulfil all righteousness. Not taken to heart. Just like the rigged elections since 1999 that we call democracy.

Back to the beginning of our chat. Parents want their kids to have a bright career and economic future. So they see gainful employment as the most likely way to do so. I cannot blame them. But modern parents should be more flexible.

midnighter:


Yes, you have a point there. I just believe there is more to being a monster nurse than lack of passion for the job because most people are adaptable.

Yes, that explains it. Plus lack of accountability and poor company culture. In any serious healthcare organisation there are supposed to be aims and objectives centred around respecting, valuing and understanding the patients and their needs while maintaining your integrity as a professional.

And checks and balances that stop patients from overstepping their boundaries and venting their frustrations on workers.

There are literally whole university courses dedicated to this but I don't know where ours got lost smh

Well, I don't know. I only hear of how Nigerians complain about medical/healthcare people. Even hear on NL. I was not educated in 9ja and I do not work in 9ja.
In a place like UK, any little thing can earn you a disciplinary hearing by GMC or NMC for nurse or HPC for other allied.

You know many things we do are just to fulfil all righteousness. Not taken to heart. Just like the rigged elections since 1999 that ewe call democracy.

Back to the beginning of our chat. Parents want their kids to have a bright career and economic future. So they see gainful employment as the most likely way to do so. I cannot blame them. But modern parents should be more flexible.

Of course many people do jobs they didn't want to and end up being very good and pleasant to colleagues and customers. Like the many engineers, doctors, architects, biologists, surveyors, historians, geographers and others working in banks.

My golden advice for you as a clinical psychologist is that if you stick to your option of becoming a lecture there's no limit to your career level in Nigeria if nursing is what you go for. Get me clear, if you are a nursing lecturer you can aspire to become Vice Chancellor of your institution. But nursing outside academia puts a ceiling on your career aspiration as you can hardly become a CMD of any health institution. At least as situation stands in Nigeria today. Nurses crosses from their profession into lecturing to break the ceiling.

However if you decide to travel out, as a clinical psychologist you're a hot cake compare to nursing cos as far as Canada is concern you earn average of &800, 000 annually.

But what's more important is that your assume the best where you're planted. As a practicing clinical psychologist I make bold to tell you that you earn more private practicing or freelancing as you might call it than work earning salary in the profession. That's talking about Nigeria of today.

Above all the question is what niche do you want to carve for yourself?

Good luck.

AreaFada2:


Well, I don't know. I only hear of how Nigerians complain about medical/healthcare people. Even hear on NL. I was not educated in 9ja and I do not work in 9ja.
In a place like UK, any little thing can earn you a disciplinary hearing by GMC or NMC for nurse or HPC for other allied.

You know many things we do are just to fulfil all righteousness. Not taken to heart. Just like the rigged elections since 1999 that ewe call democracy.

Back to the beginning of our chat. Parents want their kids to have a bright career and economic future. So they see gainful employment as the most likely way to do so. I cannot blame them. But modern parents should be more flexible.

Of course many people do jobs they didn't want to and end up being very good and pleasant to colleagues and customers. Like the many engineers, doctors, architects, biologists, surveyors, historians, geographers and others working in banks.

Okay, I understand. Those systems are the kind of accountability I was talking about and that's what keeps everybody in line. If we took such things seriously here we wouldn't have both professionals and patients flying out in droves.

Yes, parents are like that all over the world but I think that one key difference is that the concept of adulthood is a bit different because of financial dependence...maybe with a student loan system people would feel more justified in doing what they actually wanted instead of constantly feeling indebted to their parents.

It's also about balancing following an interest with being realistic about your future.

And some of it is just plain vanity. At times parents just want to comfort themselves with the knowledge that they have a doctor/lawyer/engineer and not something less prestigious, even to the point of forcing it on their child. Which is very wrong

NO Question,

... NURSING....
People will always get sick
Nurses make an extremely good living in Oyinbo land.
You can work in clinics, hospitals, schools, corporations, airports, atheltic teams.
Open up your own nursing business to serve the elderly ,
....m uch much more.

Macauley07:
Dear NL.
Recently, I was offered admission into a federal university to study psychology. I've always wanted to be a lecturer, so I opted for a course that wouldn't be much of a problem to me. My plan is to give in my best so as to come out excellent, go for my Masters abroad and venture into lecturing.

The problem here is: my parent doesn't buy the idea. They keep saying that landing a lecturing job is hard to come bye these days, that I might end up being disappointed. Moreover, a course such as psychology isn't one to expect any thing good from, especially here in Nigeria.

Now they are pleading I consider Nursing, according to them, I stand a higher chance of getting a job in a nursing profession to psychology. They are planning on sending me out of the country after the program. Should I just dash off my dream of becoming a lecturer to pursue nursing?

I love being around young people, and being in a university setting as a lecturer gives me that privilege to teach, mentor and guide them and at the same time work on my self. I think I'll find fulfilment as an academic. I'm confused, what would you advise me, if I were to be your brother?
Thanks

Nurses are also trained by professional nurses(lecturers) na

deuzgreat:

U haff sense today. Rain will fall o

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My target audience na A class type students. I don't expect every olodo that shows up to get the drift.

Kindly go back to BBN and EPL threads.
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deuzgreat:

Why don't you study nursing yourself

How is it your concern?

Lol nurses in America only have to work 3 days a week. That’s a full time gig with full benefits.

ogbonti:
While Nursing is profitable in America. I have seen some Nigerians here in America who studied Nursing from CNA Level (the least level) to LVN/ LPN (mid level) and finally became RN/ BSN

Who quit the field and are now fully into selling beauty products, running African restaurants and Afro shops and doing petty buying and selling and some now even buying cars to ship to Naija from auction or retrained to do something else. You know why?

They entered a field they have no passion for - they did all that reading and sacrificed all that time to do what they did not love and when the test of the nursing profession (like irregular scheduling issues, marital problems, work place politics, patients allegations and complainants, quality issues, racism etc ) start popping up, they fizzle out and use their savings to start something different that they have a passion for and feel comfortable doing...

However, some don’t even have enough capital to start a business in order to leave the nursing profession because their friends and family in Naija knowing they are American nurses have turned them into ATM back home - while some also lived By the dictates of their income bracket; and bought nice homes in choice areas and cars that are a bit pricey and after paying the monthly’s it becomes challenging to keep something substantial. Some simply lived above their means - therefore they got stuck in the frustrating circle of doing what they hate doing!!!

If you know how many Naija nurses have been lied against with either their licenses suspended or revoked because of racists induced frivolous lawsuits especially in Nursing Home abuse cases and even patient treatment and relationship in normal hospitals’ you will know nothing in life is easy, it’s just the grace of God

Also, to make money in nursing in America is not a straight shot. You must be ready to work OVERNIGHTS to get that extra 10% shift differential and you must work OVERTIME to get a time an half pay. If not for overnight / Overtime - regular check as a nurse is nothing much.

Think about it, as a man or woman, working constantly overnight puts your marriage in an awkward state because it opens up cheating possibilities. Female night nurses here are known na ck on the job which creates mayhem at home and some Naija husbands can’t take it that their wives are having affairs on the job and some have been killed because of this very factor. Who are they having these affairs with? Fellow medical staff because of the overnight and overtime cycle, they end up spending 3 times the time they should spend with their spouses with coworkers and that’s where illicit relationships start

With time as you get a bit older you will realize working overtime and overnight will create health issues like High Blood pressure, diabetes etc and that is not what you want to be doing at that stage of your life


So my final advise is, if you love nursing and have a passion for it, please do it.. so that when the chips are down - your passion will sustain you BUT if you are doing it for making money ONLY, my brother - you most likely will be miserable in the future. May God guide you, Amen!

Macauley07:
Dear NL.
Recently, I was offered admission into a federal university to study psychology. I've always wanted to be a lecturer, so I opted for a course that wouldn't be much of a problem to me. My plan is to give in my best so as to come out excellent, go for my Masters abroad and venture into lecturing.

The problem here is: my parent doesn't buy the idea. They keep saying that landing a lecturing job is hard to come bye these days, that I might end up being disappointed. Moreover, a course such as psychology isn't one to expect any thing good from, especially here in Nigeria.

Now they are pleading I consider Nursing, according to them, I stand a higher chance of getting a job in a nursing profession to psychology. They are planning on sending me out of the country after the program. Should I just dash off my dream of becoming a lecturer to pursue nursing?

I love being around young people, and being in a university setting as a lecturer gives me that privilege to teach, mentor and guide them and at the same time work on my self. I think I'll find fulfilment as an academic. I'm confused, what would you advise me, if I were to be your brother?
Thanks

Go for nursing any day anytime. I have a brother that studies psychology not that he is doing bad but he is more into IT than the psychology. I advised my younger sister to go for nursing but she had her own. Nursing is far better than psychology both in Nigeria and outside Nigeria

cococandy:
Lol nurses in America only have to work 3 days a week. That’s a full time gig with full benefits.

That is 12 hours a day 6pm /7pm to 6am/7am = 36hours a week. Is there any Naija nurse that works 36 hours only a week in America? I sincerely doubt... they are mostly overtime bugs EXCEPT they already health challenges like high blood pressure that is when they slow down to do only 36 hours and what makes nursing attractive is the OVERNIGHT/ OVERTIME.... my ex was an RN and my neighbor and church member both husband and wife are RN so there is no secret in nursing I don’t know

Oh

I was directed to this post, and am currently using my brother's phone. As a first class graduate psychology graduate from UK, who is currently studying nursing in UK, I will say don't even dream about doing any psychology masters abroad ...total waste of money with no job at all. Psychology is not easy by the way, I thought that way as well and oh boy was I wrong, there is a lot of statistics and critical analysis.

My advice will be do psychology in Nigeria and then apply for a nursing course called Msc pre-registered nurse(what am currently doing) it get you qualified in two years, and you can apply for this if you have a first degree in health and social care(psychology is good for this, expecially if you go to the mental health discipline).

Another option is to do bsc nursing really, you will still get to teach people and your settlement will be really easy as there is demand for nurses.

Psychology is good and interesting, but it won't pay your bills except if you do your PhD and become an accredited psychologist, only then can you even start lecturing.

And you can also do PhD in nursing , become a nurse consultant that specialised in an area and do lectures on it.

Good luck erhn.

Psychology is sadly understudied in Nigeria, and it shows. If psychology is where your passion leads, I would advise you to study it! Spread knowledge, break new ground!

midnighter:


Can you please explain the relevance of these people because nobody I know takes the profession serious. What do they do exactly

So how long have you been trolling nairaland?

Feel you should go for psychology if that's where your heart really is, you would give it your all and never back down even when the going gets tough because it's what you really want..
Going for nursing might seem like an escape right now

But trust, later in the future, you would look back and wish you had chosen your dream of being a lecturer