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Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka(op): 12:36pm On Dec 21, 2019
Britain’s domestic intelligence service MI5 can authorize its agents to engage in criminal activities, potentially including murder, kidnap and torture, a London court ruled, as Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s new government prepares to overhaul espionage laws.

Judges on the Investigatory Powers Tribunal declared in a majority decision that MI5 has the power to permit informants to operate in criminal groups, even if the policy itself confers no legal immunity. The case focused on powers that were only disclosed last year by then-Prime Minister Theresa May.

“The case raises one of the most profound issues which can face a democratic society governed by the rule of law, Judge Rabinder Singh said in the ruling.

The decision comes as Johnson seeks to update laws to bring them in line with the U.S. in a crackdown on spies, saboteurs and hackers working for foreign states such as Russia, North Korea and Iran. Preventing MI5 from running agents in criminal organizations “would strike at the core activities of the Security Service,” the judges said.

The tribunal cited the agency’s own guidelines to agents and handlers that said the authorization “will be the service’s explanation and justification of its decision,” if the agent’s activities were to be scrutinized by police or other prosecution authorities.

Human rights campaigning groups including Reprieve had asked the court to grant an injunction “restraining further unlawful conduct.” The request was dismissed in a 3-2 decision[/color], which was also the first time a dissenting opinion has ever been published in the tribunal’s 20-year history, Reprieve said.

“The IPT’s knife-edge judgment, with unprecedented published dissenting opinions, shows just how dubious the government’s secret policy is,” Maya Foa, Reprieve’s director, said in a statement. She said the groups planned to seek permission to appeal.

“The use of covert agents is an essential tool for MI5 as it carries out its job of keeping the country safe,” a spokesman for the Home Office said in a statement.
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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka(op): 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2019
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles

*sips more wine*
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka(op): 12:39pm On Dec 21, 2019
From the report

Britain’s domestic intelligence service MI5 can authorize its agents to engage in criminal activities, potentially including murder, kidnap and torture, a London court ruled, as Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s new government prepares to overhaul espionage laws.

Judges on the Investigatory Powers Tribunal declared in a majority decision that MI5 has the power to permit informants to operate in criminal groups, even if the policy itself confers no legal immunity
and

Human rights campaigning groups including Reprieve had asked the court to grant an injunction “restraining further unlawful conduct.” The request was dismissed in a 3-2 decision, which was also the first time a dissenting opinion has ever been published in the tribunal’s 20-year history, Reprieve said.

“The IPT’s knife-edge judgment, with unprecedented published dissenting opinions, shows just how dubious the government’s secret policy is,” Maya Foa, Reprieve’s director, said in a statement. She said the groups planned to seek permission to appeal.

“The use of covert agents is an essential tool for MI5 as it carries out its job of keeping the country safe,” a spokesman for the Home Office said in a statement.
I guess "saner climes" can be lawless too when it comes to National Security issues and puts it first above rule of law

laughing and *sips more wine*


grin grin grin
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka(op): 12:42pm On Dec 21, 2019
So on what grounds then should USA and UK interfere in Nigerias internal affairs when they also put National security above Rule of law?

*Sips more wine and grins*
cheesy
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Subzero047: 12:52pm On Dec 21, 2019
^Dude shut up
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by useurkidney3121: 12:52pm On Dec 21, 2019
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by id4sho(m): 12:53pm On Dec 21, 2019
Seconded.
PMB should sponsor a bill and pass into law .
We need this in this country especially for our blodas from the East.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by NaijaOlosho(f): 12:53pm On Dec 21, 2019
grin
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by MANNABBQGRILLS: 12:53pm On Dec 21, 2019
Britain’s domestic intelligence service MI5 can authorize its agents to engage in criminal activities, potentially including murder, kidnap and torture, a London court ruled, as Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s new government prepares to overhaul espionage laws.
007 : Licensed to Kill.

Now, this is deep!

Matters arising.......

Manna Following.......
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Kobicove(m): 12:53pm On Dec 21, 2019
They're already Licensed to Kill...this ruling just affirmed that! undecided
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by earthgirl(f): 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
Please apply this only on people like Shekau
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
E go be like our SARS and DSS for Nigeria
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Waakanda:
It simply means "they're above the law"... I thought only the Queen had that privilege.

#The Queen can do no wrong#
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
Not surprised, millitary intelligence do a lot of good work...and sometimes they need to do 'difficult things' to ensure our security.

But then again, Human rights are still human rights.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Alladinn14(m): 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
See work
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
So on what grounds then should USA and UK interfere in Nigerias internal affairs when they also put National security above Rule of law?

*Sips more wine and grins*
cheesy
Cc;Aufbauh


You are not wise at all.

The U.K are a very developed Democracy.

Their democracy thrives to the point where recent Governments have never been accused of abuse of power.

In contrast with a country like Nigeria, ridden with a history of presidents who have excessively abused their powers.

It is too early to call for us as a Nation.

Stop clamouring for the introduction into our society, what saner climes introduced into theirs due to their record of transparency. We are not yet ripe for that. And it may take us 200 more years to be.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Stalwert: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
What's my own I will report Buhari to UK and mama Charlie
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Aufbauh(m): 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
And this is a 'saner clime' according to some hypocritical Nigerians.

It seems that other developed countries are more brutal than us, just that their citizens are more patriotic than ours.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by chukwuibuipob: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
sad hope our own DSS will not copy it ooo
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by afroniger: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
Smh. This is nothing new. These people wey don topple many foreign governments and plotted the assassination of foreign leaders. So much for a so-called advanced country. CIA and KGB own go worse pass.

Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by KanuSE: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
Ok
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Stalwert: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
So on what grounds then should USA and UK interfere in Nigerias internal affairs when they also put National security above Rule of law?

*Sips more wine and grins*
cheesy
On the ground that Onemandickhead said they are our rods and slaviors
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 12:55pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles

*sips more wine*
Even then, sport fan, due process at all times. DUE PROCESS.

You cannot just up and jail people because they disagree with the government.

(I'm not in any poltical camp in case you are wondering)
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by RZArecta2(m): 12:55pm On Dec 21, 2019
Nigerian Govt would rather use this sort of opportunity to haunt those against ruga and Islamization agenda while the useless Nairaland BMC zombies will half brained point to the UK as an example of tyranny... We know those dafties in Aso Rock to the bone na cool
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by JubrinElSudan: 12:55pm On Dec 21, 2019
007 has been killing people in movies nah, isn't he an MI5 agent? grin
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Sukueponmalu: 12:56pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
So on what grounds then should USA and UK interfere in Nigerias internal affairs when they also put National security above Rule of law?

*Sips more wine and grins*
cheesy
You won’t find wailers on this thread
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Sarmiz24(m): 12:56pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
So on what grounds then should USA and UK interfere in Nigerias internal affairs when they also put National security above Rule of law?

*Sips more wine and grins*
cheesy
Lol nigga u don't need to post 5times just for cheap likes and share,if ur post is good u will get it in one post grin
Now get back to work, if u got any.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by donprinyo(m): 12:56pm On Dec 21, 2019
Saner climes indeed. Nigeria will like to copy dis one asap. Dis means that anti social bill go get head whether u like it or not.
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