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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by tunjiajayi: 12:56pm On Dec 21, 2019
See am oooo

Anything for the good of the country!
E be like say them dey learn from Buhari or all those British trips na for covert lectures and training from MI5.

IF NA DEM dem for don kill kanu, sowore and co.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by SavageResponse(m): 12:56pm On Dec 21, 2019
If you do anyhow you go see anyhow

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Jackyboy: 12:57pm On Dec 21, 2019
grin
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by airminem(f): 12:57pm On Dec 21, 2019
Wow
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by iamforeveryoung: 12:58pm On Dec 21, 2019
Oga try get sense, MI5 agent are like CIA, they dont work on home soil, they are intelligence arm that fight against terrorist and drug dealers. They are not use to victimize innocent harmless citizen. beside read very well, Boris is saying he wants to swash the law that give the power to just kidnap assumed terrorist and torture them.


ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles

*sips more wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 12:58pm On Dec 21, 2019
Bedwyr:


Even then, sport fan, due process at all times. DUE PROCESS.

You cannot just up and jail people because they disagree with the government.

(I'm not in any poltical camp in case you are wondering)

So their due process permits murder, torture and kidnap?

Did i hear you say due process again? grin

*sips more wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by maak400: 12:58pm On Dec 21, 2019
Torture, murder and kidnapping in the name of protecting the people?! shocked

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 12:58pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles

*sips more wine*
Hey, wuss brain this is a court ruling, it's part of a democratic process, not some govt ruling.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by seunayantokun(m): 12:59pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
So on what grounds then should USA and UK interfere in Nigerias internal affairs when they also put National security above Rule of law?

*Sips more wine and grins*
cheesy
When it comes to you, don't cry o.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by SmartyPants(m): 1:00pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
From the report



and



I guess "saner climes" can be lawless too when it comes to National Security issues and puts it first above rule of law

laughing and *sips more wine*


grin grin grin

From the report:

Judges on the Investigatory Powers Tribunal declared in a majority decision that MI5 has the power to permit informants to operate in criminal groups, even if the policy itself confers no legal immunity.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:00pm On Dec 21, 2019
iamforeveryoung:
Oga try get sense, MI5 agent are like CIA, they dont work on home soil, they are intelligence arm that fight against terrorist and drug dealers. They are not use to victimize innocent harmless citizen. beside read very well, Boris is saying he wants to swash the law that give the power to just kidnap assumed terrorist and torture them.



Mi5 are their own version of DSS we have here. They work solely inside the UK. M15 is a secret Intelligent unit primarily deals with internal affairs. The Great MI6 deals with foreign affairs which has to do with the UK or not

*Gulps wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 1:02pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:


So their due process permits murder, torture and kidnap?

Did i hear you say due process again? grin

*sips more wine*

Go to court, get a warrant, show probable cause, allow the accused access to lawyers, don't violate privace, etc etc...

Seriously, some of you guys, you did not live under Army rule...when one could be picked up by the DSS and held incommunicado for months, or the days when newspaper houses could be closed for months by the government, and so on.

Seriously, we need to respect legal due process in this country...for once.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:03pm On Dec 21, 2019
[quote author=beamtopola post=85101901]
Hey, wuss brain this is a court ruling, it's part of a democratic process, not some govt ruling.[/quote

Hey wuss brain read

Judges on the Investigatory Powers Tribunal declared in a majority decision that MI5 has the power to permit informants to operate in criminal groups, even if the policy itself confers no legal immunity. The case focused on powers that were only disclosed last year by then-Prime Minister Theresa May.

“The case raises one of the most profound issues which can face a democratic society governed by the rule of law, Judge Rabinder Singh said in the ruling.

The decision comes as Johnson seeks to update laws to bring them in line with the U.S. in a crackdown on spies, saboteurs and hackers working for foreign states such as Russia, North Korea and Iran. Preventing MI5 from running agents in criminal organizations “would strike at the core activities of the Security Service,” the judges said.

They are in the process of updating their laws so needed the courts to affirm or interpret certain sections regarding their M15. The law was already there but just needed translation.

*Sips wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by okrikaboi: 1:04pm On Dec 21, 2019
See as application go increase now. Chai omo me go soon get my own license too if you know you know
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by CSTR2: 1:04pm On Dec 21, 2019
id4sho:
Seconded.
PMB should sponsor a bill and pass into law .
We need this in this country especially for our blodas from the East.
The funny thing is that it is hopeless people like you that suffer the brunt of a broken system.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 1:04pm On Dec 21, 2019
well James Bond has been doing such long ago nau cheesy..torturing and executing his victims cheesy

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by bossinblack: 1:05pm On Dec 21, 2019
Subzero047:
^Dude shut up

I swear!
The dude is just blinded by hate. What this law or judgement is simply saying in relation to Nigeria is that... DSS operatives can become members of bokoharam in order to fight terrorism. Even though, the law does not provide immunity for them when they are caught or arrested in the process...
DSS lawyers have to justify the reason the operatives had to join bokoharam to fight terrorism in the court.

Please, how does this justify flagrant disregard for law and abuse of human rights the DSS Is practicing in Nigeria

People don't just read to understand anymore. undecided compounded by lazy journalism and hungry bloggers. Smh

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by softwerk(f): 1:05pm On Dec 21, 2019
grin

And in Naija ordinary Sowore DSS rearrested people are complaining!

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by gare(f): 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles

*sips more wine*

Do you see them go to court and arrest people when they do it is called covert and can't be traced back to those in government, theirs is done in an orderly fashion unlike ours.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2019
tunjiajayi:
See am oooo

Anything for the good of the country!
E be like say them dey learn from Buhari or all those British trips na for covert lectures and training from MI5.

IF NA DEM dem for don kill kanu, sowore and co.


Without even blinking an eye those two would have been buried long ago if it was UK

*sips wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Csami(m): 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2019
Did the article also mention that those agents are excellent judge of character and before they engage they are 100% sure.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:07pm On Dec 21, 2019
gare:


Do you see them go to court and arrest people when they do it is called covert and can't be traced back to those in government, theirs is done in an orderly fashion unlike ours.

yes orderly fashion to kidnap, murder and torture cheesy cheesy

*sips wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:07pm On Dec 21, 2019
Csami:
Did the article also mention that those agents are excellent judge of character and before they engage they are 100% sure.

I never knew the agents were mind readers too

*sips wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by CSTR2: 1:08pm On Dec 21, 2019
[quote author=ColonelEmeka post=85102018][/quote]
Stop yapping.
There is nothing exciting about state sponsored torture.
It is a product of recent conservatism in the UK that won't last.

I know you are a buhari supporter. Unfortunately, people like you don't remember that just 6 years ago, buhari was a powerless nobody.
And in two years time, he would be done.

The apparatus of state would no longer be his to wield.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by pacespot(m): 1:08pm On Dec 21, 2019
The world is becoming overly overprotective nowadays, the same UK Parliament just passed a bill for UK withdrawal from EU. With this level of protectionism, time will come that a country will have no "enemy" to protect itself from but itself.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by babyfaceafrica: 1:08pm On Dec 21, 2019
Csami:
Did the article also mention that those agents are excellent judge of character and before they engage they are 100% sure.

Lolz
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by SmartyPants(m): 1:08pm On Dec 21, 2019
bossinblack:


I swear!
The dude is just blinded by hate. What this law or judgement is simply saying in relation to Nigeria is that... DSS operatives can become members of bokoharam in order to fight terrorism. Even though, the law does not provide immunity for them when they are caught or arrested in the process...
DSS lawyers have to justify the reason the operatives had to join bokoharam to fight terrorism in the court.

Please, how does this justify flagrant disregard for law and abuse of human rights the DSS Is practicing in Nigeria

People don't just read to understand anymore. undecided compounded by lazy journalism and hungry bloggers. Smh

Sound. Seems comprehension levels are not too high around these parts

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Medanoski(m): 1:09pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles

*sips more wine*
I don't think you understand in what context the judgement was passed. According to the new judgement, the secret service agents are authorized to do this when working undercover. According to the judgement such service agent working undercover in criminal organizations cannot be prosecuted for crimes committed in such line of duty. This is because some of these criminals organizations can order them to sometimes kidnap, torture or even kill people. Pls read it well and don't misinform people. Thank you

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 1:09pm On Dec 21, 2019
lefulefu2:
well James Bond has been doing such long ago nau cheesy..torturing and executing his victims cheesy

James Bond is a fantasy.

One real ex spy (Russian, but a spy) commented that James Bond films were fantasies.

“Intelligence work is not about risky escapades. If you behave like Bond, you’ll last half a day, maybe a day. Even if there was an imaginary safe where all the secrets are kept, by tomorrow half of them will be outdated and useless. The best kind of intelligence is to understand what your opponent will think tomorrow, not find out what he thought yesterday.”

Source

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Xisnin(m): 1:09pm On Dec 21, 2019
Don't let zombies deceive you.

Read the news and you will find that the headline does not match the content.
Court actually removes restrictions from MI5 agents while on the job.
It didn't give them a license to murder.

What this means is that MI5 was previously denied the right that regular police has(killing as part of law enforcement
if faced with dangers).

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by PeterUdeme: 1:09pm On Dec 21, 2019
Nigeria is not a serious country and Africans in general lack what it takes to run a successful nation.

No serious country would allow kanu, ffk, reno and sowore to walk free. Even the almighty USA would never allow treasonous felons like these ones.

But then again, we have a president whose actions are also treasonous.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by MEGAWATCH: 1:09pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles





You should also understand that this law is targeted on those working for other countries in the UK against UK government.
But in Nigeria we have those in government working against the progress of the Nigerian nation.
Who Nigeria police torture and extort money from Nigerians, who are they working for?
So as other security agencies of Nigerian government.

*sips more wine*

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