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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by bossinblack: 1:10pm On Dec 21, 2019
SmartyPants:


Sound. Seems comprehension levels are not too high around these parts


Sadly.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by softwerk(f): 1:10pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
So on what grounds then should USA and UK interfere in Nigerias internal affairs when they also put National security above Rule of law?

*Sips more wine and grins*
cheesy

Keep swallowing spit and calling it wine. Who are you deceiving?

Mtcheew

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by MEGAWATCH: 1:10pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles





You should also understand that this law is targeted on those working for other countries in the UK against UK government.
But in Nigeria we have those in government working against the progress of the Nigerian nation.
Who Nigeria police torture and extort money from Nigerians, who are they working for?
So as other security agencies of Nigerian government.




*sips more wine*
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by CSTR2: 1:11pm On Dec 21, 2019
tunjiajayi:
See am oooo

Anything for the good of the country!
E be like say them dey learn from Buhari or all those British trips na for covert lectures and training from MI5.

IF NA DEM dem for don kill kanu, sowore and co.

And leave the likes of tinubu and co alive, right?

Kanu and sowore are the reason why Nigeria has only 40,000 doctors.

Nice.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by MEGAWATCH: 1:11pm On Dec 21, 2019
[quote author=ColonelEmeka post=85101448][b]*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles






You should also understand that this law is targeted on those working for other countries in the UK against UK government.
But in Nigeria we have those in government working against the progress of the Nigerian nation.
Who Nigeria police torture and extort money from Nigerians, who are they working for?
So as other security agencies of Nigerian government.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by semyman: 1:11pm On Dec 21, 2019
Wailers will not see any democracy under threat or any draconian rule so far no be Buhari

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:13pm On Dec 21, 2019
Medanoski:
I don't think you understand in what context the judgement was passed. According to the new judgement, the secret service agents are authorized to do this when working undercover. According to the judgement such service agent working undercover in criminal organizations cannot be prosecuted for crimes committed in such line of duty. This is because some of these criminals organizations can order them to sometimes kidnap, torture or even kill people. Pls read it well and don't misinform people. Thank you

A lot of you read but never understand anything you read.

The interpreted law does not mention criminals ordering the agents to murder, kidnap or torture but said Mi5 Can make this order...

Abeg read ooo


Britain’s domestic intelligence service MI5 can authorize its agents to engage in criminal activities, potentially including murder, kidnap and torture, a London court ruled, as Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s new government prepares to overhaul espionage laws.

Have you read it well now since you are misinforming yourself

*sips wine*
cheesy

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Neoteny(m): 1:14pm On Dec 21, 2019
Waakanda:
It simply means "they're above the law"... I thought only the Queen had that privilege.


It doesn't mean they're above the law. It means the law permits them to act in certain ways.

They can't just go about murdering and torturing anyone they feel like. You can bet there are regulations.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by bossinblack: 1:15pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
From the report



and



I guess "saner climes" can be lawless too when it comes to National Security issues and puts it first above rule of law

laughing and *sips more wine*


grin grin grin


Are you sure you understand what you report
Because Damn! you don't.

Take a puff
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Naijacommando22: 1:16pm On Dec 21, 2019
iamforeveryoung:
Oga try get sense, MI5 agent are like CIA, they dont work on home soil, they are intelligence arm that fight against terrorist and drug dealers. They are not use to victimize innocent harmless citizen. beside read very well, Boris is saying he wants to swash the law that give the power to just kidnap assumed terrorist and torture them.

Naaah ..MI5 is domestic intelligence just like DSS while MI6 is foreign intelligence just like the NIA


Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:16pm On Dec 21, 2019
bossinblack:


Are you sure you understand what you report
Because Damn! you don't.

Take a puff

crystal clear boy

*sips wine and puffs cigar*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Orpe7(m): 1:17pm On Dec 21, 2019
Bond james Bond

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by airminem(f): 1:17pm On Dec 21, 2019
Selfish poster.
*sip kunu*

grin
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by bossinblack: 1:17pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:


A lot of you read but never understand anything you read.

The interpreted law does not mention criminals ordering the agents to murder, kidnap or torture but said Mi5 Can make this order...

Abeg read ooo




Have you read it well now since you are misinforming yourself

*sips wine*
cheesy


You're the one who needs understanding. Since the gentle fellow has tried to simplify things further for you. But
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Nobody: 1:18pm On Dec 21, 2019
Bedwyr:


James Bond is a fantasy.

One real ex spy (Russian, but a spy) commented that James Bond films were fantasies.

“Intelligence work is not about risky escapades. If you behave like Bond, you’ll last half a day, maybe a day. Even if there was an imaginary safe where all the secrets are kept, by tomorrow half of them will be outdated and useless. The best kind of intelligence is to understand what your opponent will think tomorrow, not find out what he thought yesterday.”

Source
of course i know Jamed Bond is pure fantasy cheesy but ever since 9/11 secret agents have always had licence to kill and torture so all this the court is ruling aint a new thing.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Moniya4Real(m): 1:18pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles

*sips more wine*
I think I concur with you on your response to the post bro, but the thing is they(the UK &US bring about this laws for the sake of their country and out of sincere patriotism but our problems in Nigeria is that we do not trust ourselves even if the authorised agencies are empowered to do so.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:19pm On Dec 21, 2019
bossinblack:



You're the on who needs understanding. Since the gentle fellow has tried to simplify things further for you. But

Tried to simplify it for me when he is misinformed himself when he said Criminals give the order when the article clearly stated that Mi5 gives this authorization

Okay o both of you can keep misinforming each other and simplifying your misinformation to yourselves

*sips wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Roozzaay(m): 1:20pm On Dec 21, 2019
Some people's role model and demigod grin grin grin
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by BilltheDON(m): 1:20pm On Dec 21, 2019
Good



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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:21pm On Dec 21, 2019
Moniya4Real:

I think I concur with you on your response to the post bro, but the thing is they(the UK &US bring about this laws for the sake of their country and out of sincere patriotism but our problems in Nigeria is that we do not trust ourselves even if the authorised agencies are empowered to do so.

So their agencies are patriotic when they are authorized to kidnap, murder and torture but ours are not patriotic when they just arrest

Okay o

*sips wine*

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by bossinblack: 1:21pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:


crystal clear boy

*sips wine and puffs cigar*


Well you don't.

The cover of anonymity on Nairaland shouldn't make you irresponsible enough to refer to a total stranger as boy. You're most likely the 'boy' here.

You want some nuts?

Extra puff*
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ColonelEmeka: 1:23pm On Dec 21, 2019
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bossinblack:


Well you don't.

The cover of anonymity on Nairaland shouldn't make you irresponsible enough to refer to a total stranger as boy. You're most likely the 'boy' here.

You want some nuts?

Extra puff*
[/s]

I hear you Mr simplify

*sips wine*
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by ecclize: 1:23pm On Dec 21, 2019
i have always thought something like this must be playing out in some country...
this news just clear my doubts..
how i wish i an agent
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by stormwarrior(m): 1:24pm On Dec 21, 2019
iamforeveryoung:
Oga try get sense, MI5 agent are like CIA, they dont work on home soil, they are intelligence arm that fight against terrorist and drug dealers. They are not use to victimize innocent harmless citizen. beside read very well, Boris is saying he wants to swash the law that give the power to just kidnap assumed terrorist and torture them.


seriously,MI5 is like CIA,,,,,,MI5 is a domestic agency.....read abt MI6
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Waakanda: 1:26pm On Dec 21, 2019
Neoteny:



It doesn't mean they're above the law. It means the law permits them to act in certain ways.

They can't just go about murdering and torturing anyone they feel like. You can bet there are regulations.

If you did "Government" as a subject while in secondary school, you'll know where I'm coming from. If you don't know the true meaning of this statement "The Queen can do no wrong", then your explanation is invalid and inconsequential.

One love buddy smiley

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Princedapace(m): 1:31pm On Dec 21, 2019
id4sho:
Seconded.
PMB should sponsor a bill and pass into law .
We need this in this country especially for our blodas from the East.

Sorry, u are getting banned for tribal bigotry.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by randyhoff: 1:33pm On Dec 21, 2019
Its been a long time practice, they are just trying to make it official
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Homers123(m): 1:40pm On Dec 21, 2019
Rule of Law is dead on a universal level.
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by id4sho(m): 1:41pm On Dec 21, 2019
Princedapace:

Sorry, u are getting banned for tribal bigotry.
Jorgo
Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by Debaiz: 1:42pm On Dec 21, 2019
Bedwyr:


Even then, sport fan, due process at all times. DUE PROCESS.

You cannot just up and jail people because they disagree with the government.

(I'm not in any poltical camp in case you are wondering)

Is calling for anarchy same thing as disagreement with govt?
Is planning to bundle out an elected govt same thing as disagreement with govt?
Is threatening the security outfit of a country same thing as disagreement with govt?
Is coup planning disagreement with govt?

Aisha Yesufu, Fani kayode, Deji Adeyanju, even Atiku have all disagreed with the govt at one point or Another what have they not being arrested?

Don’t let us rationalize illegality because we don’t like a govt.

Sowore’s plan was simply a call to anarchy. Whether he has the capacity or not, No country will fold its arms and wait to find out if someone has the capacity to distabilze it’s national security.

And when it comes to National Security, the saner clime just laid down the gauntlet —Nothing like due process in preserving national security—.

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Re: Court Rules British MI5 Agents Can Murder, Kidnap And Torture by rusher14: 1:49pm On Dec 21, 2019
ColonelEmeka:
*Sips wine and smiles*

Our human rights noise makers who call USA and UK should come and read and see what happens in "saner climes" cheesy

Come and see what their version of DSS are authorized to do and then call them to come and set your own house in order when their own house is in shambles

*sips more wine*

I read it last night and all I could do was remember my fellow Nigerians who only get sentimental when issues arise.

Please pour me a glass of the Sauvignon, let me sip.

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