Toju200:
Merry Xmas Everybody!!!!!!!
Oya the rice and chicken let's start from u bidexiii what did u cook?!! jln115 what do u have for us


The rest follow.

jln115:

Will post myne in a few hours

jln115:
So in my laziness, decided to just repost last years X-mas message......

jln115:
Merry Christmas to all my Nairaland A-holes..... Even the Atheists A-holes...... Yeah Frumentius/Frumentum and Algerian1 I'm talking to you!!

Anyway to the rest of the gang hope you have an awesome Christmas with your families.

MiddleDimension
Cannonleo
Patches689
Henry240
newafricaken254
tdayof
MikeCZA
ssaengine
Lionel4power
Activatekruger
Adminisher
andrewza
Iblawi
Fidha254
Bidexiii
Nemesis4u
kikuyu1
Covert1/Supremecourt/sandamingosan/Agaugust/Augustine
Odunayaw
Jteku
Xbee007
Ibrahimanees
QuietMynd
CaptainStephen
LTGEN
Josfactz
Jkay187
centrifude
Evarn
DictatorZAR1
jakeporeshenko
gottfried21
GreenandGold
Jayceon
giles14
M14A1
Sizzorkay
Litmus
Stephandeswardt
rugged7
ViceAdmirlAgain

Sorry if I forgot someone!!!

jln115:
.... After 3 days we are still battling, probably going to have a very busy X-mas.

@nemesis2u we had to convert the Mahindra into a small fire engine due to the Water shortages the fire fighters have been facing..... Pulling a 3 ton un-braked trailer up and down a burning montain.... After 6 years this overlooked India SUV still amazes me!!!

jln115:
Merry Christmas everybody!!....well to some us anyway!! And merry Christmas in one hour to you Nigerian fvckers as well......hehehe just kidding, you guys aren't that bad, hope you guys have a wonderful Xmas with friends and family and thanks for making this thread worth while, I seriously enjoy my spare time on NL talking kak with all of you, including @Lezz and @Agaugust!!

jln115:

Merry x-mas to you and your family @Henry,may you have a wonderful and blessed day!! Will happily be back debating with you from Next year, but its time for the beach from now till then!

And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all my South African matjies on this thread, mag julle almal en jul families n baie geseende dag he,
And MERRY CHRITMAS to my Nigerian friends as well, and yes....a merry x-mas to you to @Auagust..

MiddleDimension
Cannonleo
Patches689
Henry240
newafricaken254
tdayof
MikeCZA
ssaengine
Lionel4power
Activatekruger
Adminisher
andrewza
Iblawi
Fidha254
Bidexiii
Nemesis4u
kikuyu1
Covert1/Supremecourt/sandamingosan/Agaugust/Augustine
Odunayaw
Jteku
Xbee007
Ibrahimanees
QuietMynd
CaptainStephen
LTGEN
Josfactz
Jkay187
centrifude
Evarn
DictatorZAR1
jakeporeshenko
gottfried21
GreenandGold
Jayceon
giles14
M14A1
Sizzorkay
Litmus
Stephandeswardt
rugged7
ViceAdmirlAgain

jln115:
So like 2018 I'm still lazy however since this is my 6th Christmas on nairaland I decided to just repost all of my previous Xmas wishes from 2014 till present :


2018


2017


Didn't really have Xmas in 2016...... Was fighting fires today 3 years ago


2015


2014

Toju200:
Merry Xmas Everybody!!!!!!!
Oya the rice and chicken let's start from u bidexiii what did u cook?!! jln115 what do u have for us


The rest follow.

Toju200:
Merry Xmas Everybody!!!!!!!
Oya the rice and chicken let's start from u bidexiii what did u cook?!! jln115 what do u have for us


The rest follow.

jln115:
So like 2018 I'm still lazy however since this is my 6th Christmas on nairaland I decided to just repost all of my previous Xmas wishes from 2014 till present :


2018


2017


Didn't really have Xmas in 2016...... Was fighting fires today 3 years ago


2015


2014

jln115:
So like 2018 I'm still lazy however since this is my 6th Christmas on nairaland I decided to just repost all of my previous Xmas wishes from 2014 till present :


2018


2017


Didn't re
ally have Xmas in 2016...... Was fighting fires today 3 years ago


2015


2014

rka2:


Yeah! eventually, but not if there is an initial non-disclosure clause of who the client is when ordered.

jpphilips:


Almost every arms exporting country are signatories to arms control treaties, non- disclosure agreements are useless in this age.

jpphilips:


Almost every arms exporting country are signatories to arms control treaties, non- disclosure agreements are useless in this age.

EVarn:

From what I have been able to gather concerning the Fulani question, I will say there are many factors involved here. In the initial stage,the Fulani herdsmen had legitimate grievances, concerning the way they and their livestock were being treated by the communities where they reside. On the part of the communities, the herdsmen and their cattle were seen as culprits of destroyed crops and investments. So, it began as a two way thing. As usual, the government,at state and federal levels,took the issue with very little seriousness.

Now, the Fulanis who,though largely uneducated, have always had a questionable sense of entitlement, see the emergence of President Buhari to mean that they are now collectively in power,and their actions can no longer be questioned. Hence, reckless adventurism by these renegade herdsmen have increased in recent years.

We must not be ignorant of the fact that the media has blown this issue beyond perspective (I won't say out of proportion,because this is an issue with very robust proportion,people are actually dying). Sensasional journalism and sectarian fault lines has given this matter a dangerous edge. Politicians ,like flies attracted to rotten carcass, are also having a field day.

Why is it that the Fulanis that had previously lived in peace with their host communities now seem to have turned berserk overnight?.

Like I always say,what is the solution?. Well,I believe the decision of the FG to open a radio station that broadcasts in fulfude will go a long way in sensitizing these people,they usually move around with portable radios. But I believe we must move beyond cosmetic solutions, the people in power are very familiar with leaders of these fulani renegades, therefore, the government must call them to order through their leaders. No herdsman (or herdsboy,as the case may be) should be seen strutting around with rifles.

We also need to work on regulations of small arms ownership. Who really own the cattle?,Who are the people arming these renegades?, Where are the sponsors getting the arms from?,is there any international corroboration?. We must answer these questions and put in place strict measures and deterrence.

We want to see scapegoats, a number of them rounded up and sent to prison or in the case of minors, an institute for the criminally insane.These things serves as deterrence and will help in pacifying the public.

In long term,things like education and a framework for proper ranching in the country should be explored. Baring that,the FG should consider a more communist approach of government ownership of all cattle,then contracting the livestock out to registered herdsmen under a national cattle redistribution scheme.

Perhaps if the rich alhaji in Abuja that has failed to build a ranch for his cattle, loses all his cows to the government, im eye go clear.

tsdarkside:


education and little information is very bad in the case of nigeria....
we all know northerners have a tradition of radio to pass information between each other....

if we allow foreighners and ill meaning people to hijack the traditionaly information source,then you end with clashes....

how can it be that this matter of herdsmen vs. farmers got soo bad....??
why didnt it happened so much decades ago....??

foreighners are hijacking the informations flow....

now with ipob that wants nigeria to burn....??

dont underrate ipob....
they have people that can speak hausa too....

kabe1:

This is not true.

Algeria, Egypt and Venezuela are countries who routinely receive equipment confidentiality.

Egyptian Air Defence system deliveries are usually not known until you see them used in exercises, including Algeria.

The whole world only knew about Nigeria CH-3 UCAV when it crashed. Before that it was a secret delivery.

rka2:


They might tell you an African country has ordered a particular piece of equipment but don't always disclose the country until just before delivery etc. Don't tell me you have never come across this?

kabe1:

This is not true.

Algeria, Egypt and Venezuela are countries who routinely receive equipment confidentiality.

Egyptian Air Defence system deliveries are usually not known until you see them used in exercises, including Algeria.

The whole world only knew about Nigeria CH-3 UCAV when it crashed. Before that it was a secret delivery.

nemesis8u:
I don't understand these childish illusions on secrecy relating to arms deal / procurement

When is a arms deal considered secret ?

If forumers / bloggers / media don't know about it ?

Or

If concerned intelligence orgs / relevant orgs don't know about it ?

I find it funny that people think if something is not out in the open , they consider it to be secret.

Really then what is the job of intelligence orgs and what they know about , certainly they won't blurt it out in public and expose their knowledge / sources.

Situation here is same as a ostrich putting its head in the sand and convincing itself of what it wants to believe. Since i dont know hence nobody knows.

A primary function of any nations external intelligence is to keep track of arms deals of other countries hostile or in geographical proximity to it.

Aircrafts and ships loading unloading stuff in any country under the watch of satellites and even without satellites does not leave much room for secrecy for those in the business of minding others business .

kabe1:

Syria is another country that receives a lot of arms in secret.

jpphilips:


I'm surprised people still think arms transfer is a secret in this age. Some non ATT compliant countries spy on themselves & still reveal the information anyways, Russia was testing a nuclear fuelled missile for long endurance till it had an Accident, the CIA still revealed it to everyone what Russia is doing, you can cut the big arms manufacturers some slack but definitely not countries that shop from all around the world.
Trump pulled the US from ATT so they can manufacture and hide, same cant be said of Nigeria can we?