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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 4:41pm On Dec 18, 2019
kabe1:


The scale of your delusion of grandeur is incredible.

Please read this link slowly and carefully.

http://shippingposition.com.ng/main-news/maritime-security-nigerian-navy-expecting-more-platforms-before-end-of-2020

We are not mate.

Again I ask, where is South-Africa?
What's this nonsense you always try to start with Jln
Its not funny anymore

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 4:45pm On Dec 18, 2019
Odunayaw:
What's this nonsense you always try to start with Jln
Its not funny anymore
I find it amusing. If you don't like it, can't help you.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 4:46pm On Dec 18, 2019
kabe1:

I find it amusing. If you don't like it, can't help you.
Help the thread.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 4:49pm On Dec 18, 2019
Odunayaw:
Help the thread.
You've been commenting here since 2014.

Lighten up.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by MrHill00: 11:39pm On Dec 18, 2019
Too many kids on here trying to prove a point. thread has gone downhill smh ��‍♂️
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 7:24am On Dec 19, 2019
Read carefully
UNIJOS PUBLIC LECTURE: NAF CONDUCTS OPERATIONS WITH EXTREME CAUTION TO MINIMIZE COLLATERAL DAMAGE WHILE UNDERTAKING HUMANITARIAN PROGRAMMES TO WIN THE HEARTS OF CIVIL POPULACE - CAS

The Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, has disclosed that the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) conducts its counterinsurgency operations with extreme caution and restraint to minimize collateral damage whilst also undertaking humanitarian programmers to win the hearts and minds of the civil populace. The CAS stated this today, 18 December 2019, as the Guest Lecturer, at a public lecture delivered at the University of Jos (UNIJOS), Naraguta Campus, Jos. In his lecture, titled “The Role of the NAF in Contemporary Security Challenges”, the CAS noted that the contemporary Nigerian air operating environment is intrinsically asymmetric and encompasses a wide range of variables. According to him, it is based on the implicit premise that asymmetric warfare deals with unknowns and with surprises in terms of ends, ways and means. “The more dissimilar the adversary is, the more difficult it is to understand and predict his actions”, he said.

Speaking further, Air Marshal Abubakar, stated that the NAF, as the custodian of combat air operations in Nigeria, is operating in a predominantly asymmetric environment. This, he said, is evident in the nature of conflicts and security threats that the Service, and indeed the Armed Forces, are currently battling in the country. The threats, the CAS noted, range from the Boko Haram insurgency/terrorism in the Northeast to the criminal activities of pipeline vandals, crude oil thieves, sea robbers and militants in the South as well as increasing threats from kidnappers, cattle rustlers and militarized herdsmen, who are causing widespread insecurity across the country. “These security threats all have a commonality of features, which bear the hallmark of asymmetric warfare, as they are often conducted in settlements or built up areas with poorly defined or non-existent combat zones. Furthermore, urban environments provide very good concealment and opportunities for ambushes and booby traps”, he said.

While citing instances of complex asymmetric environment, the CAS noted that the insurgency in the Northeast involves operations inside Maiduguri as well as other towns and villages which makes progress really slow and painstaking. Such operating environments, according to him place significant stress on participating troops, including aircrew. “This is particularly true of helicopter crew, who operate at low speeds and altitudes, sometimes into highly vulnerable locations”. The absence of a dress code for insurgents, the CAS said, is yet another feature, which characterizes the asymmetry in Nigerian air operations environment. The implication, according to him, is that military personnel could come under attack from seemingly innocent crowds, whom the personnel may be trying to protect.

Air Marshal Abubakar noted that the foregoing scenario makes the employment of strategies to win the hearts and minds of the civil populace in the affected areas an imperative for successful operations. In this regard, he noted that the NAF had, over the past 4 years, intensified the execution of Civil-Military Cooperation (CIMIC) Projects whilst scaling up its Disaster Response/Relief capability in aid to civil authorities in times of crises. The humanitarian programmes, he said, include the conduct of medical outreaches, provision of water supply and school feeding as well as donation of food and other items especially to Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs). He disclosed that the NAF had conducted 66 medical outreaches with over 370,000 patients seen including 2,065 general and eye surgeries carried out from July 2015 till date. He said the Service had also established and maintained Level 2 Hospitals at IDP Camps at Dalori and Bama in Borno State. He noted that these measures bolstered the confidence of the people in the military, while countering the BHT’s recruitment strategy and enhancing local intelligence gathering. As for disaster relief, the CAS reported that the NAF took active part in the relief efforts of the National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA), in delivering relief materials to victims of flooding in various parts of the country in 2017 mainly in Benue State as well as to Bayelsa and Rivers States in October 2018. Similarly, he noted that the NAF has frequently conducted other international humanitarian missions, including the airlift of relief materials to Mozambique and Zimbabwe in September 2019.

Furthermore, the CAS explained, another significant requirement for effectiveness in contemporary operations is Research and Development (R&grin). This, he said, was because any nation at war that was wholly dependent on other nations and private vendors for the entirety of its military needs would continue to face considerable set-backs. In this regard therefore, Air Marshal Abubakar noted that the NAF had undertaken various initiatives, singly and in conjunction with credible partners, which have yielded positive outcomes. He highlighted some of these to include higher-quality, locally-produced versions of the hydraulic accumulator diaphragms for the Mi-35 helicopter and L-39 aircraft fleets; local production of Missile Heat Shields as well as the mass production of brake pads and rivets for the Alpha Jet aircraft, in collaboration with Innoson Group of Companies. Others, he said, include the local production of C-130H auxiliary power unit test stand, weaponisation of NAF and Nigerian Police Force Bell 412 helicopters, production of 30.1mm live rockets and production of hilux mounted rocket launchers, as well as geisha 23mm guns of the decommissioned MiG-21 aircraft, amongst others.

While highlighting some challenges facing the Service, the CAS stated that the NAF, like other Services, is participating actively in all the Internal Security operations in the Country which include Operations LAFIYA DOLE, HADARIN DAJI, DELTA SAFE, SAFE HAVEN, AWATSE and WHIRL STROKE. He said running an air force is a very expensive venture, especially where the underlying local technological base is inadequate. While noting that the current level of funding for the NAF is still far below the requirement to sustain a balanced force capable of discharging its roles effectively, Air Marshal Abubakar appreciated the Federal Government under the leadership of the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, President Muhammadu Buahri, for striving to improve NAF budgetary allocations over the past few years. The CAS also mentioned weather as well as the vastness of the area of operations as part of the challenges faced by the NAF.

In his remarks, the Chairman of the occasion and former Vice Chancellor (VC) UNIJOS, Professor Nenfort Gomwalk, commended the CAS for the remarkable achievements and successes recorded in the fight against terrorism in the Northeast as well as other internal security threats. He noted that the University was extremely proud of the achievements recorded by the NAF, under Air Marshal Abubakar’s leadership, in the areas of capacity building, infrastructural development, acquisition and reactivation of platforms and particularly in R&grin.

The CAS had earlier paid a courtesy call on the VC UNIJOS, Professor Seddi Sebastian Maimako, in his Office, where he highlighted how the NAF has leveraged the knowledge and experience inherent in Nigerian Universities to solve some of its aircraft engineering and maintenance problems. This, the CAS, said was achieved through Memoranda of Understanding (MOUs) with 15 Nigerian Universities and Research Institutes. He urged the VC to join others in partnering with the NAF in the area of R&grin. In his response, the UNIJOS VC, while expressing his delight to welcome the CAS to his Office, noted that given the special connection Air Marshal Abubakar has with UNIJOS, the University would definitely key into the NAF’s R&grin drive while also exploring avenues to further strengthen the relationship between the NAF and the University.

Other dignitaries at the event were the former CAS, Air Marshal Jonah Wuyep (retired), Principal Officers in UNIJOS, the Air Officer Commanding Ground Training Command as well other senior NAF officers.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by darkwan: 4:31pm On Dec 19, 2019
Jimi24:


We should refit / upgrade Aradu. The figures being quoted as the estimate of doing the work are a scam. I am of the opinion that $130m should be enough for life extension of structure, new radar, ASW equipment and other systems
People were trying to steal funds that was why the figure was so high

that always happens in nigeria....everybody want their share....
its normal....
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:54pm On Dec 19, 2019
December,18 Algerian army/ Counterterrorism. Discovery of a cache of weapons and ammunition at Bordj Badji Mokhtar in 6th Military Region

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 12:54pm On Dec 20, 2019
Some more info on the deep blue project on the NN's website:

"Deep Blue Project. The Deep Blue Project (DBP) is a maritime security project conceived by the FMOT aimed at combating piracy and other criminalities in the nation’s maritime domain. The Project comprises procurement of equipment and systems, and training for their operation and maintenance. The NN has been collaborating with the FMOT through NIMASA with whom an existing MOU is currently running.]The main deliverables for the NN from the Project are 3x Leonardo Helicopter (LH109) Grand New, 2 x 55M Special Mission Vessels (SMVs) and 17 x 9.6m Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats (RHIBs) as interceptor boats. Others are UAVs, C4I Center and training facilitation for the intervention team. The NN however, counts on the Committee’s support for FMoT to make provision for the sustenance of this critical equipment, to avoid past mistakes."

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 2:04pm On Dec 20, 2019
rka2:
Some more info on the deep blue project on the NN's website:

"Deep Blue Project. The Deep Blue Project (DBP) is a maritime security project conceived by the FMOT aimed at combating piracy and other criminalities in the nation’s maritime domain. The Project comprises procurement of equipment and systems, and training for their operation and maintenance. The NN has been collaborating with the FMOT through NIMASA with whom an existing MOU is currently running.]The main deliverables for the NN from the Project are 3x Leonardo Helicopter (LH109) Grand New, 2 x 55M Special Mission Vessels (SMVs) and 17 x 9.6m Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats (RHIBs) as interceptor boats. Others are UAVs, C4I Center and training facilitation for the intervention team. The NN however, counts on the Committee’s support for FMoT to make provision for the sustenance of this critical equipment, to avoid past mistakes."
yeah I wanted to share this but it said post too long
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by avidleo: 2:20pm On Dec 20, 2019
Any pics on the equipment launched today by the NPF?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 2:29pm On Dec 20, 2019
Toju200:
yeah I wanted to share this but it said post too long

You can split it into sections.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 2:32pm On Dec 20, 2019
avidleo:
Any pics on the equipment launched today by the NPF?
I trying to upload but it won't come up..And the pics aren't even clear

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 2:50pm On Dec 20, 2019
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 2:51pm On Dec 20, 2019
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 5:17pm On Dec 20, 2019
Who be Grand New grin

rka2:
Some more info on the deep blue project on the NN's website:

"Deep Blue Project. The Deep Blue Project (DBP) is a maritime security project conceived by the FMOT aimed at combating piracy and other criminalities in the nation’s maritime domain. The Project comprises procurement of equipment and systems, and training for their operation and maintenance. The NN has been collaborating with the FMOT through NIMASA with whom an existing MOU is currently running.]The main deliverables for the NN from the Project are 3x Leonardo Helicopter (LH109) Grand New, 2 x 55M Special Mission Vessels (SMVs) and 17 x 9.6m Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats (RHIBs) as interceptor boats. Others are UAVs, C4I Center and training facilitation for the intervention team. The NN however, counts on the Committee’s support for FMoT to make provision for the sustenance of this critical equipment, to avoid past mistakes."
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 6:38pm On Dec 20, 2019
Sizzorkay:
Who be Grand New grin


Na derivative of the Grand with different avionics and single IFR.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 7:02pm On Dec 20, 2019
jln115:
good to see someone is on board with reactivating Aradu!!

I think I agree too now. It shouldn't cost above $150m to bring that ship up to date and give it nearly 10yrs more

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:15pm On Dec 20, 2019
Odunayaw:
I think I agree too now. It shouldn't cost above $150m to bring that ship up to date and give it nearly 10yrs more
More than 10 years imo!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 7:20pm On Dec 20, 2019
Odunayaw:
I think I agree too now. It shouldn't cost above $150m to bring that ship up to date and give it nearly 10yrs more
What's the wisdom in spending $150 million dollars in refitting Aradu which has been docile since 2006 (14 years) just so that you can use it for 10 years? undecided undecided

Whereas we can get 2 state of the art frigates for $450 million, each lasting for 50 years.

Philippines paid $435 million for 2 new frigates from south-korea in 2013.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 7:24pm On Dec 20, 2019
kabe1:

What's the wisdom in spending $150 million dollars in refitting Aradu which has been docile since 2006 (14 years) just so that you can use it for 10 years? undecided undecided

Whereas we can get 2 state of the art frigates for $450 million, each lasting for 50 years.

Philippines paid $435 million for 2 new frigates from south-korea in 2013.
2013 is 6years ago..

You're welcome to show me examples of "state of the Art frigates" that cost $450m please

Modified
I did small research about the Philippine Frigates. That weaponry and tonnage is basically Corvette standard hence it's price.
Except we want a frigate just for the "name" only
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 7:32pm On Dec 20, 2019
jln115:
More than 10 years imo!
that ship needs to be brought back to life. I've seen it still in the dry dock missile cells still intact.doesnt look rusty at all.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 7:33pm On Dec 20, 2019
jln115:
More than 10 years imo!
I agree, more than 10yrs

Truly there's no place we'd get such tonnage and armament for anything less than $400m each

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 7:35pm On Dec 20, 2019
Toju200:
that ship needs to be brought back to life. I've seen it still in the dry dock missile cells still intact.doesnt look rusty at all.
Last time I saw it (agreed its nearly 4yrs now) it wasn't in a bad shape. The CNS actually has done a good thing in making sure it doesn't get derelict.

Bringing it back to seaworthy condition would take only ⅓ of $150m, its the electronics and armament that'd take the chunk. I think the $250m quote is a padded estimate
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 7:38pm On Dec 20, 2019
Odunayaw:
Last time I saw it (agreed its nearly 4yrs now) it wasn't in a bad shape. The CNS actually has done a good thing in making sure it doesn't get derelict.

Bringing it back to seaworthy condition would take only ⅓ of $150m, its the electronics and armament that'd take the chunk. I think the $250m quote is a padded estimate
I agree I'm sure the CNS wants it back
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by darkwan: 7:55pm On Dec 20, 2019
Algerian2:
December,18 Algerian army/ Counterterrorism. Discovery of a cache of weapons and ammunition at Bordj Badji Mokhtar in 6th Military Region

good....the northern walls are workin again....

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by darkwan: 7:56pm On Dec 20, 2019
Algerian2:
December,18 Algerian army/ Counterterrorism. Discovery of a cache of weapons and ammunition at Bordj Badji Mokhtar in 6th Military Region

imagine all this weapons would have landed in the hands of boko haram and iswap....

shiett....!!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 7:58pm On Dec 20, 2019
Odunayaw:
2013 is 6years ago..

You're welcome to show me examples of "state of the Art frigates" that cost $450m please

Modified
I did small research about the Philippine Frigates. That weaponry and tonnage is basically Corvette standard hence it's price.
Except we want a frigate just for the "name" only
Ships are classified by tonnage not weaponry.

If weaponry was the case, the Russian Buyan-m Corvette ships would be classified as Destroyers.

The Philippines type frigates would be good for us, it sure beats what we would get with a refit done on Aradu.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:15pm On Dec 20, 2019
kabe1:

Ships are classified by tonnage not weaponry.

If weaponry was the case, the Russian Buyan-m Corvette ships would be classified as Destroyers.

The Philippines type frigates would be good for us, it sure beats what we would get with a refit done on Aradu.
grin what?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:13am On Dec 21, 2019
It's true that d good ones never last, we normally call him baba bravo, he's never tired​ of giving advice, especially with the Armed Forces Act. On behalf of me and my colleagues I say we missed you and we love you but God loves you most, your departure is a chock to us and a lost to the entire military and Nigeria at Large, RIP LT. WK Egba.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:22pm On Dec 21, 2019
kabe1:

What's the wisdom in spending $150 million dollars in refitting Aradu which has been docile since 2006 (14 years) just so that you can use it for 10 years? undecided undecided

Whereas we can get 2 state of the art frigates for $450 million, each lasting for 50 years.

Philippines paid $435 million for 2 new frigates from south-korea in 2013.
Incheon-class is a light frigate hence the price!!

Let's quickly compare NNS Aradu with the Incheon-class quickly:


Aradu. Vs Incheon class
Main gun: 127mm vs 127mm
SAMs: 24 vs 0
SSM: 8. Vs 2
Dual purpose guns: 8. Vs 1
Torpedo tubs: 6. Vs 6

Which looks stronger to you?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 3:27pm On Dec 21, 2019
jln115:

Incheon-class is a light frigate hence the price!!

Let's quickly compare NNS Aradu with the Incheon-class quickly:


Aradu. Vs Incheon class
Main gun: 127mm vs 127mm
SAMs: 24 vs 0
SSM: 8. Vs 2
Dual purpose guns: 8. Vs 1
Torpedo tubs: 6. Vs 6

Which looks stronger to you?
The Aradu is obviously stronger, however SAMs can be added to the Incheon. 2 ships that are brand new is better than having an old ship for 10 years only.

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