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If you can show me an unambiguous statement in Islamic text(Qur'an or Hadith). Where Prophet Muhammad destroyed Zaid's marriage so that he can sleep with her I am ready to accept your faith whatever it is Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism whatever just one unequivocal statement.

TheExecutioner:
Bwahahaha!! How can anyone talk about Zaid without talking about Zaid's wife Zainab and how Muhammad destroyed Zaid's marriage to Zainab so he could sleep with her?

Congratulations you have actually succeeded in proving OP's point.


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Whether you convert is between you , your conscience and God.

As for the source of muhammad's relationship with Zainab, here it is:

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ubandawaki:
If you can show me an unambiguous statement in Islamic text(Qur'an or Hadith). Where Prophet Muhammad destroyed Zaid's marriage so that he can sleep with her I am ready to accept your faith whatever it is Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism whatever just one unequivocal statement.

OP clearly put the correct Surah and Ayah. Is your problem shortsightedness or are you just a natural born liar?

IAmStrange:
look at this one oo! Is this the way you are trying to get around a blatant lie?

You said a verse is 3:144 but it's actually 33:40... this is an obvious lie and you are still trying to get around it.

As for the others I quoted, they were quoted straight from the Quran app on my phone... straight from there...

I have always known you to be a LIAR. I have proven it here again.

I think I know what to do now

since you have proven to be insincere with ur arguments, I'll cease to reply you henceforth.

So I will now post the link to this thread to people so that they can see you are a LIAR and my reason for not replying you is justified.

I cannot be dragging myself in the mud with you.

That's what I'll be doing now Bye!

TheExecutioner Oniro were Lying is your hobby.. lying your trademark.. lying is your identity

continue following that path until you become like your mentor liar SHAMOUN the WORLD CLASS LIAR

The messenger turn away from her and at the end said glory be to God who turn hearts away. Please fellow readers is this quotation exonerating the prophet from what they are ascribing to him or implicating him.

TheExecutioner:
Whether you convert is between you , your conscience and God.

As for the source of muhammad's relationship with Zainab, here it is:

[img]https://images./kKRktuXxH973Bv1BDcLfG.jpg[/img]

ubandawaki:
The messenger turn away from her and at the end said glory be to God who turn hearts away. Please fellow readers is this quotation exonerating the prophet from what they are ascribing to him or implicating him.

he shot himself.. he didnt read what he posted

All Religions na scam.
God has no religion, religions are man made.
God is One and can't be divided by Religion.
God is Love but religion hates other religions.
God is powerful, He does not need religion to defend Him.

"Glory be to God who causes hearts to turn"

Means that muhammad had stopped seeing Zainab as a daughter in law and he had began to see her as a sexual object.

In fact, allah actually scolded muhammad for saying that Zainab should remain married to Zaid. It was actually allah who instructed Zaid to end the marriage and hand over Zainab to muhammad:


When thou saidst to him whom God had blessed and thou hadst favoured, 'Keep thy wife to thyself, and fear God,' and thou wast CONCEALING WITHIN THYSELF what God should reveal, FEARING OTHER MEN; and God has better right for thee to fear Him. So when Zaid had accomplished what he would of her, THEN WE GAVE HER IN MARRIAGE TO THEE, so that there should not be any fault in the believers, touching the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished what they would of them; and God's commandment must be performed.

Surah 33:37

ubandawaki:
The messenger turn away from her and at the end said glory be to God who turn hearts away. Please fellow readers is this quotation exonerating the prophet from what they are ascribing to him or implicating him.

If he is now seeing her as sex object he wouldn't have refused entering her room according to your post below. And in this your quotation you clearly told us that he refused to see her as sex object or someone that he can marry to the extent that Allah scolded him for that.

TheExecutioner:
"Glory be to God who causes hearts to turn"

Means that muhammad had stopped seeing Zainab as a daughter in law and he had began to see her as a sexual object.

In fact, allah actually scolded muhammad for saying that Zainab should remain married to Zaid. It was actually allah who instructed Zaid to end the marriage and hand over Zainab to muhammad:


When thou saidst to him whom God had blessed and thou hadst favoured, 'Keep thy wife to thyself, and fear God,' and thou wast CONCEALING WITHIN THYSELF what God should reveal, FEARING OTHER MEN; and God has better right for thee to fear Him. So when Zaid had accomplished what he would of her, THEN WE GAVE HER IN MARRIAGE TO THEE, so that there should not be any fault in the believers, touching the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished what they would of them; and God's commandment must be performed.

Surah 33:37

TheExecutioner:
Did I not predict this?

The messenger of IMESS has resorted to using the Bible as a justification for the behaviour of his prophet!!!



I thought you guys are always boasting about how MuhaMAD's name appears in the Song of Solomon, and yet now you are trashing that same book!!!

This is next level paranoid schizophrenia!!!

u be hypocrite , @iamstrange answer the op first b4 bringing out his own Solomon stuff /porn

but seriously what @iamstrange wrote up there is it true?

TheExecutioner:
Erm, AntiChristian and IamStrange are very quiet in reacting to this thread. I wonder why?

how market nah?

That is why the post is titled "Allah's inconsistencies"

MuhaMAD told Zaid to keep his wife, which would have been the right thing to do, but allah intervened and destroyed the marriage for muhammad's benefit.

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ubandawaki:
If he is now seeing her as sex object he wouldn't have refused entering her room according to your post below. And in this your quotation you clearly told us that he refused to see her as sex object or someone that he can marry to the extent that Allah scolded him for that.

Market dey sell well well.

We dey bash your prophet and you dey feel am!

Olamilekxy:
how market nah?

With due respect the reason you titled the topic with inconsistency is because in one verse it is said that the prophets' wives are the mothers of believers and to your understanding it is contradicting the verse that is saying the prophet is not the father of any of the believers.which you claimed the reason for that is because the prophet want to have as many women as he want,but after being explained by a humble Muslim the reason why the Qur'an said he is not the father of any believer is because of his adopted son Zaid whom you even later support by executioner bringing the story of Zainab and after it is clear where Allah put an end to the prophet ever marrying again now you are telling us the reason for naming the topic Allah's inconsistencies in the Qur'an is because of Zainab and Zaid that you did not mention even once in your post. Nevertheless can you show us Allah's inconsistencies in the Qur'an in the story of Zaid and zainab so that Inshaa-Allah we can clarify it.

ContractKiller:
That is why the post is titled "Allah's inconsistencies"

MuhaMAD told Zaid to keep his wife, which would have been the right thing to do, but allah intervened and destroyed the marriage for muhammad's benefit.

[img]https://images./kX1yR4Y5Y7XEsvxcZ0Uoj.jpg[/img]

Olamilekxy:
u be hypocrite , @iamstrange answer the op first b4 bringing out his own Solomon stuff /porn

but seriously what @iamstrange wrote up there is it true?

what did I write?

O Ye who believe! Enter not the dwellings of the Prophet for a meal without waiting for the proper time, unless permission be granted you. But if ye are invited, enter, and, when your meal is ended, then disperse. Linger not for conversation. Lo! that would cause annoyance to the Prophet, and he would be shy of (asking) you (to go); but Allah is not shy of the truth. And when ye ask of them (the wives of the Prophet) anything, ask it of them from behind a curtain. That is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not for you to cause annoyance to the messenger of Allah, nor that ye should ever marry his wives after him. Lo! that in Allah's sight would be an enormity. - Quran 33:53

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IAmStrange:


look at these people again... I always said it that you people appear to the world like you are straightforward and psychologically advanced but actually you are hypocritical and foolish.

You first of all said that.. that the Quran says that.. . "The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ourselves and his wives are their mothers as regards respect and marriage"

But this is actually what's written in the Quran:

The Prophet is closer to the believers than their selves, and his wives are (as) their mothers. And the owners of kinship are closer one to another in the ordinance of Allah than (other) believers and the fugitives (who fled from Mecca), except that ye should do kindness to your friends. This is written in the Book (of nature). - Quran 33:6

Where did you see as regards respect and marriage there?

You deliberately included that to suit your claims. You lied!!! I've always known you for this. you've been doing this following the path of your mentor liar SHAMOUN the WORLD CLASS LIAR You remember?

Now that's the actual verse.

Then you also said that it's because of that that Allah forbade the Muslims from marrying his wives. You were linking your "fabricated verse" with the second verse.

This is the actually verse - the second one:

O Ye who believe! Enter not the dwellings of the Prophet for a meal without waiting for the proper time, unless permission be granted you. But if ye are invited, enter, and, when your meal is ended, then disperse. Linger not for conversation. Lo! that would cause annoyance to the Prophet, and he would be shy of (asking) you (to go); but Allah is not shy of the truth. And when ye ask of them (the wives of the Prophet) anything, ask it of them from behind a curtain. That is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not for you to cause annoyance to the messenger of Allah, nor that ye should ever marry his wives after him. Lo! that in Allah's sight would be an enormity. - Quran 33:53


As you can see from the above, Allaah was giving commandments to those who "believe". The part that you quoted is not the only thing in that verse. Rather, Allaah was giving commandments as you can see above and that particular commandment (don't marry His wives) happens to be part of it.

First, where is your evidence that it's because Allaah regarded them as our mothers that Allaah commanded us not to marry them?

It's forbidden to marry His wives as respect to Him (peace be upon him). It's in respect, acknowledging the status of the Prophet and also that of his wives.

Secondly, I want you to know that His wives being our mothers in that verse is metaphorical. They are not our actual mothers but they are "as" our mothers because of their position. It's in terms of reverence and in that sense, the Prophet is also like a father to us if you mean in terms of reverence and not actual or blood father.

But the father that Allaah was talking about in this verse that you quoted, he was talking about an actual father; a blood father:

“Muhammad is not the father of any of your
men, but he is the Messenger of Allaah and the
last (end) of the Prophets. And Allaah is Ever
All‑Aware of everything”
[al-Ahzaab 33:40]

But first I'll like to point it out to you that you told another lie here because the verse is not Quran 3;144 but it is Quran 33:40

Ahh ahn! LIAR Contract killer, take it easy nah you've told two lies already.. two fabrications!! This shows that you do not actually go to the Quran to pick out those verses but you wrote them by yourself as you deemed fit. That proves the insincerity in you!

So to continue, that verse, Allaah was making it clear that though the Prophet may be like a father to you because of his status, he is not our actual father!!!

And this even reflects common sense. Because first, actually, he didn't give birth to us. So the ruling on blood father to his son doesn't apply between us. Allah was making that clear.

Secondly, if the Prophet were to be regarded as our actual father, then he won't be able to marry women because the ruling on father and daughter-in-law would apply between him and that particular woman if the woman happens to be the daughter of a Muslim.

Thirdly, Allaah revealed that verse to clarify that an "adopted" son isn't an actual son and should not be regarded as one therefore the ruling on blood ties between a father and his biological son shouldn't apply between a man and his "adopted" son.

But because you wanted to spite Islam and the Prophet, you twisted the whole idea and said it was to satisfy his sexual urges and your fellow ignorant "dumbasses" were agreeing with you.

you even lied... twice!! just to substantiate your false claims.

You see your life? You keep disgracing yourself every now and then. LIAR SHAMOUN has destroyed your life and turned u to a dumbass and LIAR

Now since you want to talk about depravity and obscenity, I'll take you on a journey into the bible



Chai! You've quickly changed it. Now You've proven your intentions very clearly. LIAR! NOW I know more about you people. You people will go to any length to bring Islam down. You first wrote 3:144... I saw it clearly. I went to search for it. I couldn't find it in the Quran app. It was when I entered it in Google that I saw the actual reference

But look at your life

When you tried to change it, you could not even change it correctly. You didn't eventually put the Correct thing. It's actually 33:40. You wrote 3:144 before but when you wanted to lie and change it, you changed it to 3:40. You changed it to 3 instead of 33...

SEE below:

Chai! LIAR SHAMOUN HAS destroyed your life. You just showed me more who you really are and this has even given more more reason not to reply you next time.

Kudos bro

Yes and the story of muhammad and Zainab is one example which proves this inconsistency.

In Zainab's case, she wasn't just any other muslim woman, she was the wife of muhammad's adopted son. But that didn't stop muhammad from developing lustful desires after seeing Zainab's unclothedness. In fact, the islamic sources say that Zainab',s unclothedness "excited" muhammad's admiration:

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At the end of the day, muhammad's behaviour with Zainab is just an example of what motivated him to reject the title of "father of the believers" because if he had accepted that title, he would never have been able to snatch Zainab from his adopted son Zaid.

ubandawaki:
With due respect the reason you titled the topic with inconsistency is because in one verse it is said that the prophets' wives are the mothers of believers and to your understanding it is contradicting the verse that is saying the prophet is not the father of any of the believers.which you claimed the reason for that is because the prophet want to have as many women as he want,but after being explained by a humble Muslim the reason why the Qur'an said he is not the father of any believer is because of his adopted son Zaid whom you even later support by executioner bringing the story of Zainab and after it is clear where Allah put an end to the prophet ever marrying again now you are telling us the reason for naming the topic Allah's inconsistencies in the Qur'an is because of Zainab and Zaid that you did not mention even once in your post. Nevertheless can you show us Allah's inconsistencies in the Qur'an in the story of Zaid and zainab so that Inshaa-Allah we can clarify it.

What make me confused brother is how the prophet have lustful desire toward Zainab even after refusing to enter her room, turning away from her, and thanking God that favour him with the ability to turn away from her saying glory be to God who turns hearts away,and even you quoting Qur'anic verse where Allah is scolding him for not having interest in her.And as for the title of father ship as a Muslim I have explained it to you from the beginning.

ContractKiller:
Yes and the story of muhammad and Zainab is one example which proves this inconsistency.

In Zainab's case, she wasn't just any other muslim woman, she was the wife of muhammad's adopted son. But that didn't stop muhammad from developing lustful desires after seeing Zainab's unclothedness. In fact, the islamic sources say that Zainab',s unclothedness "excited" muhammad's admiration:

[img]https://images./6NvZ35itFRmpZu7NBMqf9f.jpg[/img]

At the end of the day, muhammad's behaviour with Zainab is just an example of what motivated him to reject the title of "father of the believers" because if he had accepted that title, he would never have been able to snatch Zainab from his adopted son Zaid.