So isn't kogi and kwarra predominantly Muslim states?

Balogunodua:

Oga minus kogi, kwara and benue

TooMuchStuff:
OP you are very correct. Just the figures.
Core Hausa Christians are over 5Million in population. They are extremely discriminated against in all socioeconomic opportunities like Job, politics, religion blockade etc by the Sons of Danfodio.
We also have core Fulani Christians in Katsina, jigawa, Sokoto and Adamawa

Thank you very much.
When I meet with indigenous Hausa Christians and they break down the estimates of their population to me, I am shocked, cos the estimates they give me if added up should be around or over 4 million.

I just find this hard to believe and see it as an exaggeration on their parts. Well, maybe they are correct, only time will tell.

If you don't mind please where are you from?

Bazamfare:
So isn't kogi and kwarra predominantly Muslim states?

From which statistic

Nowenuse:


Thank you very much.
When I meet with indigenous Hausa Christians and they break down the estimates of their population to me, I am shocked, cos the estimates they give me if added up should be around or over 4 million.

I just find this hard to believe and see it as an exaggeration on their parts. Well, maybe they are correct, only time will tell.

If you don't mind please where are you from?

One Nigerian

Hausa is dead as a race the only identification they have right now is the language left ,Fulani have conquered them next is the yoruba race although Kwara state is gone

[quote author=Bazamfare post=85273078]Delusional nyamuri flat.head, Ibo is the only tribe dead after the massacre and sacrifice of 3m flat.heads for ritual during the civil war[/quote you know as a black man u are allergic to truth

Nowenuse:
This thread was on frontpage yesterday

https://www.nairaland.com/5600225/indigenous-hausa-christians-kano-mark

And from the comments on this thread, it is very very clear that majority of Nigerians especially the Southern Nigerians and shockingly even some Core-northern Hausa fulani muslims do not even know the difference between Hausa Christians and Northern/Middlebelt christians who speak Hausa as 2nd language. I had to correct an uncountable number of people on that thread.
How can Nigeria progress as a nation when people do not even know and understand each other very well?

There is a very big difference between the two for those who don't understand.


FOR STARTERS, If you have a Christian friend from the states of PLATEAU, NASARAWA, FCT, TARABA, ADAMAWA, SOUTHERN KADUNA, SOUTHERN GOMBE, SOUTHERN BORNO, SOUTHERN KEBBI, EASTERN & NORTHERN NIGER, SOUTHERN BAUCHI & SOUTHERN YOBE, he or she is not a Hausa person and can never be a Hausa person no matter how much Hausa he or she speaks or no matter how Hausa their names appear.
These people have their own native languages and cultures which have no relationship whatsoever with Hausa, they only learnt to speak Hausa as a 2nd language.

All the areas mentioned above are predominantly Christian except for Southern Bauchi, Southern Yobe and Niger where the Christians are in a slight minority or a 50/50 indigenously.

So if you have a friend or acquaintance from this area, you can do well to ask him or her what tribe he/she is, rather than ignorantly concluding him to be a Hausa person because he speaks Hausa or has a Hausa name.

But if your friend who is a christian is an indigene of Katsina, Kano, Jigawa, Zamfara, Sokoto or Zaria (northern Kaduna) and Northern Kebbi, then it is most likely that your friend is a real Hausa Christian who has no other ethnicity, culture or language other than Hausa.
(Except in some rare cases when the person may be from these areas and still NOT be a Hausa person, because there are communities of Southern Kaduna and Southern Kebbi tribes that spill over into Northern Kaduna, Kano & Zamfara states.)


Real Hausa Christians are quite few in number but they number at around 2 million or more people and are mostly found in the rural areas of
KATSINA (Kankia, Kafur, Malumfashi, Funtua e.t.c LGAs)
KANO (Sumaila, Bebeji, Garko, Doguwa, Tudunwada LGAs) and
NORTHERN KADUNA/ZARIA (Makarfi, Kudan, Ikara, Zaria & Sabongari LGAs), where they have their largest numbers and fewer numbers in Jigawa, Zamfara & Sokoto states.

These Hausa Christians are almost invisible to the eyes of even their core-northern Hausa-fulani Muslims and neighbouring northern Christians from other tribes because most of them dress like Muslims and use Muslim names in order to avoid discrimination. You can never guess that some of these people are christians unless they tell you themselves (especially in the urban areas). These are some of the reasons why many core-northern muslims even argue of their existence.

These people are the most persecuted minorities in Africa, but in order not to violate certain rules of Nairaland, this thread will not go that direction.

They together with the Fulani & Kanuri Christians of the Core-north (yes you read it right, FULANI CHRISTIANS) have a national association called the MASIHIYAWA COMMUNITY.



The other northern Christians from different tribes who speak Hausa as a 2nd language and most Southern Nigerians tend to address as 'Hausa Christians' run into the tens of millions in population (around 20- 25 million people) and these are the ones who regularly have violent clashes with core-northern muslims in Bauchi, Plateau, Southern Kaduna, FCT, Adamawa, Taraba, Nasarawa, Gombe, Kebbi e.t.c.
This is because most of these tribes never came under Danfodio's jihad, their tribes are predominantly Christian, and they still have a strong sense of ethnic independence unlike the Hausa Christians who see themselves as a helpless minority in the midst of an overwhelmingly Islamic ethnic group.


There is no reputable Hausa Christian in politics or academia for such a population, except Clergymen This is due to the extreme marginalization.

Summary,
ALL HAUSA CHRISTIANS ARE NORTHERN CHRISTIANS BUT MAJORITY (90%) OF NORTHERN CHRISTIANS ARE NOT HAUSA CHRISTIANS.


Lastly, if you are a Southerner and you have a christian friend from Benue, Kogi, Kwara or Nupe (Niger south) and you still think he/she is a Hausa Christian, then you need serious help with your ignorance.
This is because people from these areas have no business or relationship whatsoever with Hausa language. Any of them you see speaking Hausa has traveled to live in the Hausa speaking areas of the north and learnt it there just as you will travel to the north to learn it there.

Look at what US has caused. Just an ordinary letter and for past few days Northerners have started confessing their sins.

I have people here who can bear witness that any Hausa indigene that identifies as Christian in North has automatically signed his or her death warrant.

If an Hausa convert from Islam to Christian they are dead overnight or withing few days after revelation.

Last fasting period some Hausas were lynched for eating in daytime, no question asked!

So I dont understand this sudden romance of Hausa Christians on social media.

So una fear US, eehn

TooMuchStuff:
This is front-page Worthy.

Pls OP can u add the picture of a small snake even it's a roundworm for Lalasticlala to see and do the needful??

In fact it is alarming that lala loves promoting such thread

Mynd44 please move this

Honestly, I really pity northern Christians. They are indeed the most threatened indigenous people in the whole world today. However, they must stand courageously and speak with one voice so that the world can understand their plight and come to their rescue.

edoairways:

In fact it is alarming that lala loves promoting such thread

Very strange.he must have a predilection for snakes and reptiles in general

edoairways:
Mynd44 please move this

Do you mean to move it to front page or what?
Why would an enlightening thread like this be worrying you? Or is there anything I'm missing??

Biafrarep:

Do you mean to move it to front page or what?
Why would an enlightening thread like this be worrying you? Or is there anything I'm missing??

Move to front page I mean

garfield1:

Very strange.he must have a predilection for snakes and reptiles in general

Maybe or probably a strategy to get many viewers. He has achieved that already hence you see many nairalanders viewing and commenting on snake thread

edoairways:

Move to front page I mean

Okay, honestly this thread ought to be in front page so that lots of people can contribute. It has potential to go far.

Biafrarep:

Okay, honestly this thread ought to be in front page so that lots of people can contribute. It has potential to go far.

Yeah. The media in the south contributed negatively to misinformation of fact

jumper524:
as a northern I see the OP as an enemy of the north, in my last arguement with him I found out hes just an ethnic and religious bigot.
Till tomorrow northern leaders both muslims and christians keeps making moves and step towards a united north but this op is hell bent on creating sentiment even where it never was

op is actually right. I served in north precisely Katsina state. I was able to know indigenous hausa Christians. they are mostly members of ecwa church. they are minority in north west states. they disguise as muslims. some have to go to states like Kaduna or jos for university education or employment.
on northern Christians, there are millions of them who are not hausa or fulani by tribe. they speak hausas but they are not. they were fooled ahmadu bello with his one God and one north policy. that was reason they fought against biafra during civil war but now story has changed. during my NYSC, I met few guys from plateau state, they did not want to be identified as hausas.
Ahmadu Bello dream can only come true if Muslim north will vote for a northern Christian to be a president or v.p. I am also waiting for the time when hausa/ kanuri Christians from katsina ,kano or Borno etc will be elected or appointed into key positions in government.

Nowenuse:


Thank you very much.
When I meet with indigenous Hausa Christians and they break down the estimates of their population to me, I am shocked, cos the estimates they give me if added up should be around or over 4 million.

I just find this hard to believe and see it as an exaggeration on their parts. Well, maybe they are correct, only time will tell.

If you don't mind please where are you from?

yes, they live mostly in rural villages without basic amenities. they recieve aids in form of student scholarship, relief materials etc from international bodies

joyandfaith:


op is actually right. I served in north precisely Katsina state. I was able to know indigenous hausa Christians. they are mostly members of ecwa church. they are minority in north west states. they disguise as muslims. some have to go to states like Kaduna or jos for university education or employment.
on northern Christians, there are millions of them who are not hausa or fulani by tribe. they speak hausas but they are not. they were fooled ahmadu bello with his one God and one north policy. that was reason they fought against biafra during civil war but now story has changed. during my NYSC, I met few guys from plateau state, they did not want to be identified as hausas.
Ahmadu Bello dream can only come true if Muslim north will vote for a northern Christian to be a president or v.p. I am also waiting for the time when hausa/ kanuri Christians from katsina ,kano or Borno etc will be elected or appointed into key positions in government.

I wasn't debunking the fact that there are several other tribes in the north or if there are hausa christians. Also there are many hausa christians in dutsu ma who are lecturers and christains.
They don't dominate cos they are minorities not because they are marginalized.
I also await the time when Igbo muslims from south east would be appointed into key govt positions or are the igbos not united?
Pls the north might have its problem but its gradually becoming a case of the past as we keep fighting against such negative actions.
What we need now is cooperation not misinterpreted and misinformed lies or rumors.

MetaPhysical:


Look at what US has caused. Just an ordinary letter and for past few days Northerners have started confessing their sins.

I have people here who can bear witness that any Hausa indigene that identifies as Christian in North has automatically signed his or her death warrant.

If an Hausa convert from Islam to Christian they are dead overnight or withing few days after revelation.

Last fasting period some Hausas were lynched for eating in daytime, no question asked!

So I dont understand this sudden romance of Hausa Christians on social media.

So una fear US, eehn

u sew how senseless you are, Ordinary letter from US that only Nnamdi kanu and radio biafra has PR os there any media outlet who has that news?
FFK thanked fayemi and Abba kyari for persuading the president

Gbadamosi claim it was to distract on the attempted assassination of Jonathan.

Ipob forge their letter they claim US.
Oboi peddle that rubbish is your radio biafra Facebook group not here.

The same Hausa Christians that joined forces with Islamic jihadist to kill there fellow Christians from the East
I laugh in karma

Bazamfare:
Lol.. just listen this fool!! And ur parents will think they have sent you to school!! I'm not surprised that since u were exposed as 5% in population, you have been desperately trying to attach urself by force with the SS to increase ur numbers, while bringing others down!!

There is nothing like kafanchan and southern Borno in the constitution, but Borno and Kaduna state.. all these places are governed by the overall laws and regulation governing the region, since its a majority hausa/fulani/Muslim states, we have the right to have an emir in every nook and cranny we feel like and there us nothing anybody can do about it!!

You can claim Muslims are merely 20% in the northfor all we care, but that won't change reality on ground!!! For those that get their information from RadioBiafra, I don't expect much

You've just proved the op correct, Hausa Fulani people esp Muslims are so intolerant of other people, this is pathetic

TooMuchStuff:
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One Nigerian

Are you ashamed of your state?

Bazamfare:
Delusional nyamuri flat.head, Ibo is the only tribe dead after the massacre and sacrifice of 3m flat.heads for ritual during the civil war

Cc lalasticlala mynd44 rule 2

Bazamfare:


There is nothing like kafanchan and nouthern Borno in the constitution, but Borno and Kaduna state.. all these places are governed by the overall laws and regulation governing the region, since its a majority hausa/fulani/Muslim states, we have the right to have an emir in every nook and cranny we feel like and there us nothing anybody can do about it!!

Say no more.

jumper524:
I wasn't debunking the fact that there are several other tribes in the north or if there are hausa christians. Also there are many hausa christians in dutsu ma who are lecturers and christains.
They don't dominate cos they are minorities not because they are marginalized.
[sI also await the time when Igbo muslims from south east would be appointed into key govt positions or are the igbos not united?[/s]
Pls the north might have its problem but its gradually becoming a case of the past as we keep fighting against such negative actions.
What we need now is cooperation not misinterpreted and misinformed lies or rumors.

Focus on other things and live Igbo out of your many miserable northern problems

murphyibiam15:

Are you ashamed of your state?

Nop. It's a guided secret.

TooMuchStuff:

Nop. It's a guided secret.

When has SS become a state? Lmao..most likely an Edo boy who doesn't feel being SS enough

TooMuchStuff:

Nop. It's a guided secret.

Unfortunately I quoted you before you shortly before you modified..you said SS which isn't a state

What is a secret about the useless unproductive 36 states we have in the useless zoogeria

murphyibiam15:

When has SS become a state? Lmao..most likely an Edo boy who doesn't feel being SS enough

You really have my time today. Unfortunately I'm in my village in South south where festive mood won't let us talk much. We observe table manners here in Southy way. Don't talk while eating....!

In any case, we own the land that has the Oil Money that feeds your Parasitic states....!

TooMuchStuff:

You really have my time today. Unfortunately I'm in my village in South south where festive mood won't let us talk much. We observe table manners here in Southy way. Don't talk while eating....!

In any case, we own the land that has the Oil Money that feeds your Parasitic states....!

Shut up you this Edo Muslim boy, actually by nature Edo isn't even originally part of SS, you're more like north Central partially and the other half as Afonja...Edo doesn't even have more than 1 cup of oil.. who's now feeding who, but Almost all the states in east are oil producing