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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eseose9(f): 8:17pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Rohr needs to scout and decide for himself if there are no talents. He can not stay and Europe and summarize that we have no talents in the NPFL and NNL.

So Rhor should scout for 16 yrs old?
What is now the duty of under 14,u-17 coaches?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 8:20pm On Dec 28, 2019
slimthugchimee2:


Just asking, Nigeria seems to have alot of strikers performing well in their various clubs, I don't know how they plan on squeezing them into the NNTS
Yes we have very many strikers doing creditably well around the world but the coach Rohr has a policy of inviting them based on current form while also limiting the total number of the said strikers to a specific figure since all the strikers cannot make up the whole starting 11 every now and then
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:22pm On Dec 28, 2019
zayyadidris:
See I don't think you like iheanacho like I do, but heck am stating what am seeing.!!

Hmm ok oo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 8:25pm On Dec 28, 2019
Truer words have never been spoken. The NFF is rotten to the core. I mean, why isn't Picnic more concerned about the teams that are not performing? Instead he wants to feck up the only national team that is producing results.


O pari

charlesemeka85:
u earn my respect with this post bro. forget folks wey dey short sighted but they form they sabi the game.

issues like this is the same thing that almost destroyed our football before rohr came on board. in an era where Nigeria is blessed with young talented players doing big things in top European leagues you expect the coach to sit down in nigeria when he has the luxury to live in Europe in order to monitor his players closely.

oliseh came and forced paul onobi on us and made us believe he is better than mikel but where is he now?

the likes of kwambe,oshaniwa,ekwuekwe,oboabona,mba,uzoenyi just to mention a few who keshi made us believe they are the 2nd coming of zizou,baresi,maradona etc where are they today? whereas the likes of omeruo,musa,mikel,moses,onazi and others from the same team are still playing in till date in better leagues






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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 8:30pm On Dec 28, 2019
Eseose9:


So Rhor should scout for 16 yrs old?
What is now the duty of under 14,u-17 coaches?
Very good question from you to him Dear.

Can a true 16, 17 or 18 years old even be found in the league?

I bet you it would be a 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 or even a 25 years old that would be claiming to be 17, 18 at the moment.

A true Super talented 16, 17, 18 years old doesn't have the money to bribe his way through to the top NPFL clubs let alone to be exposed to the world from the NPFL platform

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:30pm On Dec 28, 2019
Iheanacho scored but he wasn't really impressive today bkus he didnt have much services, plus he didnt quite run the channels as good as he is reputed for, he often got sandwiched btwn two CBs. In a match, he should learn not to put his foot off the pedal just bkus he's registered a goal, today he became lackadaisical after registering his name on the score sheet. Nacho isn't a point man, he would have done better behind a main striker.


That said, playing with players like Gray, Albrighton, Barnes, poor Ayoze et al, really can be frustrating for any striker

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:41pm On Dec 28, 2019
Iheanacho did ok for his limited service. I have seen Vardy have games like this but his goals overshadow the lack of service.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:49pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:
Iheanacho did ok for his limited service. I have seen Vardy have games like this but his goals overshadow the lack of service.

Well said. Same with KC's game today
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 8:53pm On Dec 28, 2019
zayyadidris:
See I don't think you like iheanacho like I do, but heck am stating what am seeing.!!
you ain't seeing nothing, go wash your face make u see clearly.








6 games... 5goals.. 2 assists...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eazyjakes(m): 8:56pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Rohr needs to scout and decide for himself if there are no talents. He can not stay and Europe and summarize that we have no talents in the NPFL and NNL.
Every person would want to employ the best personnel to get the best efforts and results from their jobs including Rohr and identifying football talents is not rocket science. The structure and organization of our leagues over the years have been so shambolic that our best talents even at cadet levels are based abroad or overseas-bound. The NFF and LMC needs to put their house in order, once we get our leagues right, u don’t need to compel any national team coach to stay and watch any league....if his best personnel are here, he will gladly discover and use dem!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Rockyrascal(m): 8:56pm On Dec 28, 2019
zayyadidris:
But what can you say about this his game if you are going to be honest?
he might have failed to make good use of those through balls and space in the first half and also be at the right spot on time. But the Leceister team found the game difficult in the second half.

The most important thing for him as a striker is that he delivered once again when it matters.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:08pm On Dec 28, 2019
Eseose9:


So Rhor should scout for 16 yrs old?
What is now the duty of under 14,u-17 coaches?

Tell that to Amokachi who became a quality player in football and went on to have some memorable games with the Super Eagles. It only shows how thorough Westerhof was, not only relying on foreign based talents.

He used the home based players to create serious competition in the team.

Keep in mind we won the U17 World Cup while Westerhof was coach of the Super Eagles. He actually knew the U17 team inside out and had a fall out with the U17 coach based on the tactical approach of the later regarding Kanu Nwankwo.

Not to go to Europe and lounge and collect salary, saying you are working.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 2lola: 9:20pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Tell that to Amokachi who became a quality player in football and went on to have some memorable games with the Super Eagles. It only shows how thorough Westerhof was, not only relying on foreign based talents.

He used the home based players to create serious competition in the team.

Keep in mind we won the U17 World Cup while Westerhof was coach of the Super Eagles. He actually knew the U17 team inside out and had a fall out with the U17 coach based on the tactical approach of the later regarding Kanu Nwankwo.

Not to go to Europe and lounge and collect salary, saying you are working.

am really disappointed in you sir
how many national team in the world do their national team coach scout for U-17, football has evolve raw talents are discovered by age grade coach and club academies.

TAA was discovered by Liverpool
Ansu Fati by Barca
Oshimen and Samu by Amunike
etc

this Era of football clubs and age grade coach scout for raw gem not NT coach

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:21pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Tell that to Amokachi who became a quality player in football and went on to have some memorable games with the Super Eagles. It only shows how thorough Westerhof was, not only relying on foreign based talents.

He used the home based players to create serious competition in the team.

Keep in mind we won the U17 World Cup while Westerhof was coach of the Super Eagles. He actually knew the U17 team inside out and had a fall out with the U17 coach based on the tactical approach of the later regarding Kanu Nwankwo.

Not to go to Europe and lounge and collect salary, saying you are working.

How can you be comparing football in the early 1990s to 2019?? It is ludicrous. No one in the local scene is on super eagles level.

Any Nigerian player with small talent is either in Europe or on their way..

We have under 17 and under 20 coaches to pick outstanding youngsters. Those players need a few more years to develop.

Rohr can do a lot more work in Europe. He can scout upcoming Nigerian talents. He can meet with his players and speak to them. He can meet diaspora players that can improve our team.

Sitting in Nigeria looking for the odd talent is a waste of time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:29pm On Dec 28, 2019
2lola:


am really disappointed in you sir
how many national team in the world do their national team coach scout for U-17, football has evolve raw talents are discovered by age grade coach and club academies.

TAA was discovered by Liverpool
Ansu Fati by Barca
Oshimen and Samu by Amunike
etc

this Era of football clubs and age grade coach scout for raw gem not NT coach

Rohr should be in the country and involved in what is going on in the local scene. Staying in Europe as if it is none of his business does not add up when we are forking a fortune to keep him.

We are not de La creme to have all our talents in top academies in the World like the English, French, Brazilians, Argentina etc. The National team coach needs to stay involved.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:32pm On Dec 28, 2019
2lola:


am really disappointed in you sir
how many national team in the world do their national team coach scout for U-17, football has evolve raw talents are discovered by age grade coach and club academies.

TAA was discovered by Liverpool
Ansu Fati by Barca
Oshimen and Samu by Amunike
etc

this Era of football clubs and age grade coach scout for raw gem not NT coach

Lol at the bolded

I think thegoodjoe usually do get it wrong when it comes to issues like this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:32pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


How can you be comparing football in the early 1990s to 2019?? It is ludicrous. No one in the local scene is on super eagles level.

Any Nigerian player with small talent is either in Europe or on their way..

We have under 17 and under 20 coaches to pick outstanding youngsters. Those players need a few more years to develop.

Rohr can do a lot more work in Europe. He can scout upcoming Nigerian talents. He can meet with his players and speak to them. He can meet diaspora players that can improve our team.

Sitting in Nigeria looking for the odd talent is a waste of time.

Westerhof was fully informed and participated in actions of our players in Europe. News even had it that he had foreign contacts to help move local talents to foreign clubs.

That did not stop him from participating with what was going on in the local scene and age grade levels.

Keshi could select his CHAN team himself. Rohr has no clue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:33pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Rohr should be in the country and involved in what is going on in the local scene. Staying in Europe as if it is none of his business does not add up when we are forking a fortune to keep him.

We are not de La creme to have all our talents in top academies in the World like the English, French, Brazilians, Argentina etc. The National team coach needs to stay involved.

Rohr's responsibility is not to develop the local league.

The way to develop the local league is not to have Rohr sit in Nigeria.

Why can't our local sides have standard academies to churn out fresh talents for the league? Is it Rohr's presence that will change that?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:35pm On Dec 28, 2019
andrewbaba44:


Lol at the bolded

I think thegoodjoe usually do get it wrong when it comes to issues like this

I am not getting it wrong. My opinion is not popular.

You can not tell me the National team coach of a country like Nigeria earns a fortune and has no idea what is going on in the local scene, because he must live in Europe. That does not work.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:36pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


Rohr's responsibility is not to develop the local league.

The way to develop the local league is not to have Rohr sit in Nigeria.

Why can't our local sides have standard academies to churn out fresh talents for the league? Is it Rohr's presence that will change that?

Westerhof did not develop the local league. No one said Rohr should develop the league. Go there and look at what is going on. Check if there are gems. Identify them and help develop the players for the better of the National team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zayyadidris(m): 9:37pm On Dec 28, 2019
kellycute:
you ain't seeing nothing, go wash your face make u see clearly.








6 games... 5goals.. 2 assists...
I tire for people for this thread. So someone cannot state his opinion again. My guy I've said my own. You don't have to keep posting his stats on my face.!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:38pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Westerhof was fully informed and participated in actions of our players in Europe. News even had it that he had foreign contacts to help move local talents to foreign clubs.

That did not stop him from participating with what was going on in the local scene and age grade levels.

Keshi could select his CHAN team himself. Rohr has no clue.

Rohr's impact in the super eagles have been outstanding. Our players are in Spain, France, England, Italy, Germany. When was the last time we had that?

Rohr put in a word to get Lokosa into Esperance.

CHAN has been of no benefit to to super eagles. No need for Rohr to be involved in that. It has no benefit for the first team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:38pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


Rohr's responsibility is not to develop the local league.

The way to develop the local league is not to have Rohr sit in Nigeria.

Why can't our local sides have standard academies to churn out fresh talents for the league? Is it Rohr's presence that will change that?

I remember reading that Guardiola as Coach of Bayern Munich held some coaching clinics to help brush up the tactics of local coaches in Germany. That was not his responsibility. This is even a club coach, let alone a National team coach having no clue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:38pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I am not getting it wrong. My opinion is not popular.

You can not tell me the National team coach of a country like Nigeria earns a fortune and has no idea what is going on in the local scene, because he must live in Europe. That does not work.

You are 100% wrong here

100%

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:40pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I remember reading that Guardiola as Coach of Bayern Munich held some coaching clinics to help brush up the tactics of local coaches in Germany. That was not his responsibility. This is even a club coach, let alone a National team coach having no clue.

Having occasional clinics is different from having Rohr sit in Nigeria.

Fact: There is more work for him to do in Europe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:40pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


Rohr's impact in the super eagles have been outstanding. Our players are in Spain, France, England, Italy, Germany. When was the last time we had that?

Rohr put in a word to get Lokosa into Esperance.

CHAN has been of no benefit to to super eagles. No need for Rohr to be involved in that. It has no benefit for the first team.

Which Rohr got our players in England, Italy, Germany?

Is it Balogun or Iheanacho or Osimhen or Chukwueze or who?

Go and check Salisu's list before Rohr, a lot of the players Rohr uses today were in the team before him.

Did Rohr contribute to the growth of our local academies or play his part in the age grades? So how is it his impact?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chidi1: 9:41pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Westerhof did not develop the local league. No one said Rohr should develop the league. Go there and look at what is going on. Check if they are gems. Identify them and help develop the players for the better of the National team.

The Goodjoe, just for our edification, could you name at least three local players currently that are good enough to replace players in the super eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:41pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I am not getting it wrong. My opinion is not popular.

You can not tell me the National team coach of a country like Nigeria earns a fortune and has no idea what is going on in the local scene, because he must live in Europe. That does not work.
earns a fortune?

LOL, that's a stretch

Y'all aren't paying Rohr enough to deal with NFF's bulls#*t and still walk about looking for 'talents' in the local league (so that his wallet can be stolen again). And sure, it is easy to say let him go elsewhere, but anywhere else Rohr goes, he will be fine.

Will Nigeria be fine?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:42pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


Having occasional clinics is different from having Rohr sit in Nigeria.

Fact: There is more work for him to do in Europe

Which work in Europe? The clubs are doing the bulk work for him. If Leicester City drops Iheanacho, he drops Iheanacho, if Pepe Mel plays Uzoho, he calls Uzoho, if Graham Potter drops Balogun, he drops Balogun. If Villareal plays Chukwueze, he calls Chukwueze.

Which work is he doing? Let him sit home and do the work where it is.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:43pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:
earns a fortune?

LOL, that's a stretch

Y'all aren't paying Rohr enough to deal with NFF's bulls#*t and still walk about looking for 'talents' in the local league (so that his wallet can be stolen again). And sure, it is easy to say let him go elsewhere, but anywhere else Rohr goes, he will be fine.

Will Nigeria be fine?

Other coaches earned far less and did more work in the local scene, while still handling their Super Eagles job.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:44pm On Dec 28, 2019
chidi1:


The Goodjoe, just for our edification, could you name at least three local players currently that are good enough to replace players in the super eagles.

Tell the coach to sit down and do his work. Did I name Amokachi and Oliseh for Westerhof?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eseose9(f): 9:45pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Tell that to Amokachi who became a quality player in football and went on to have some memorable games with the Super Eagles. It only shows how thorough Westerhof was, not only relying on foreign based talents.

He used the home based players to create serious competition in the team.

Keep in mind we won the U17 World Cup while Westerhof was coach of the Super Eagles. He actually knew the U17 team inside out and had a fall out with the U17 coach based on the tactical approach of the later regarding Kanu Nwankwo.

Not to go to Europe and lounge and collect salary, saying you are working.
Do you realised that that era is passed?
Our best players are plying their trade abroad

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