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Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by modsfucker: 2:54pm On Dec 29, 2019
Human rights lawyer, Inibehe Effiong, has decried combined efforts of operatives of the Federal Capital Territory Police Command and soldiers from the Guards Brigades, who foiled robbery attack in Mpape area of Abuja on Saturday.

Effiong, a constitutional lawyer, who premised his criticism upon Section 218 of the Nigeria’s Constitution, argued that foiling robbery attack is not the business of army personnel, describing the joint efforts as a “national scandal”.

“It is not only wrong but also unconstitutional. The Army has no business confronting armed robbers. Section 218 of the Constitution limits the role of the Armed Forces. The Army is not supposed to be deployed to fight regular crimes.

“I insist that what happened in Abuja on Saturday is a national scandal and those in power in this country should be ashamed. Deploying soldiers to tackle five armed robbers trapped in a building is a manifestation of the total collapse of our security architecture.

“How can our troops be reduced to this shameful level? A country where soldiers chase suspected rice smugglers is a big joke. I insist that what we’re witnessing is an aberration. The Armed Forces was not established for this,” Effiong tweeted.

He further stated, “The Guards Brigade do not protect Abuja. They only protect the President & the Villa. The security of Abuja is primarily within the jurisdiction of the FCT Police Command. The Army has no business protecting Abuja except if Abuja is under serious attack beyond the capacity of the police.”

Read more: https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/army-police-combo-to-foil-mpape-robbery-a-national-scandal-says-constitutional-lawyer.html

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by SadiqBabaSani: 2:59pm On Dec 29, 2019
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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by jantofubu(m): 2:59pm On Dec 29, 2019
End time lawyer
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by decatalyst(m): 3:00pm On Dec 29, 2019
I subscribe to his exposition.

It is a shame!


Shame on the security architecture!

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Nobody: 3:00pm On Dec 29, 2019
This lawyer should please Shut da Fvck up and get a life!

So if the military could intervene, they should have ignored.

Records have it that even in advanced countries, the military has been deployed to combat crimes the police could no longer handle.

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by decatalyst(m): 3:00pm On Dec 29, 2019
jantofubu:
End time lawyer

Obviously, you could not comprehend what was written up there.
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Simplyleo: 3:01pm On Dec 29, 2019
So now that the army was involved, the robbers should seek redress in court?

Yes, the job is not that of army, but the police was there while the army assisted.

If that is the case, then indigenes of Jos should take Nigeria to court for involving the army since the crisis in Jos is purely a civil one.

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by KamikazeQ: 3:03pm On Dec 29, 2019
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Simplyleo:
So now that the army was involved, the robbers should seek redress in court?

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by decatalyst(m): 3:04pm On Dec 29, 2019
OgunLaakaye:
This lawyer should please Shut da Fvck up and get a life!

So if the military could intervene, they should have ignored.

Records have it that even in advanced countries, the military has been deployed to combat crimes the police could no longer handle.

Please, state factual examples instead of generic claims!

The truth is, Nigeria is a failed Nation! The ones you see in the movies ain't even soldiers because they wear camouflage. They are elite police or SWAT team. The constitution doesn't alot any internal duty to the military. They could only intervene in the case of hostage taking or siege on National infrastructure...

It's a shame!

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by jantofubu(m): 3:24pm On Dec 29, 2019
decatalyst:


Obviously, you could not comprehend what was written up there.

Bro forget comprehension, is it not the same Nigeria that we are in

His lamentation changes nothing, their major assignment is to secure life and properties. Drastic situations requires drastic solution.
Excuse me pls
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Nobody: 3:31pm On Dec 29, 2019
The budget of the New York Police Department is five times that of the entire Nigeria Police force.

Start from there...and you will see why the Nigeria Police is not working as it should...and why the NYPD does not need to call the Army of the US to deal with crime the way we do in Nigeria.
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by TUANKU(m): 3:35pm On Dec 29, 2019
The lawyer is right actually but problem is he is mistaking what applies to a sane and civilised environment and comparing it to this jungle called Nigeria where anything goes.

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by sholatech(m): 3:54pm On Dec 29, 2019
Lawyer might be right. But the bottomline is that the robbers were caught! I also feel there must be reason those police guys invited the military as we have seen nigerian police foil many bank robberies successfully. Could it be the robbers had superior firepower than them?
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by modsfucker: 3:58pm On Dec 29, 2019
We don't care who foiled the attack, even if na Fire Service men or Road Safety officials, so long as the criminals have been arrested.

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Maxymilliano(m): 4:09pm On Dec 29, 2019
The man is right constitutionally it's the duty of the police, but there are things that are better left unsaid after all, a positive result has been achieved, he should just chill.

However, the police should be strengthened to carry out its responsibility. The ones on ground should have called fellow police for reinforcement, the military has no businesses policing the town in democracy except protecting our borders and ensuring there is no threat to the nation.
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by decatalyst(m): 4:41pm On Dec 29, 2019
jantofubu:


Bro forget comprehension, is it not the same Nigeria that we are in

His lamentation changes nothing, their major assignment is to secure life and properties. Drastic situations requires drastic solution.
Excuse me pls

I get it!

Let's continue to put square pegs in round holes just because they are pegs! Outstanding results awaits...!
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by demsy21(m): 4:45pm On Dec 29, 2019
Listen to the message! Too much involvement of the military in a purely civil affairs even though its related to crime being committed. The police is underfunded, disrespected, and not well equipped, lest i forget, the officers on the street tend to throw all the training they went through, even those who studied law among them. Something must be done. Haba! 4 armed robbers attacking a bank, what if they were more in number? Is it a whole batallion that will intervene? Let's be honest!

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by CaptainMeks: 4:55pm On Dec 29, 2019
modsfucker:
Human rights lawyer, Inibehe Effiong, has decried combined efforts of operatives of the Federal Capital Territory Police Command and soldiers from the Guards Brigades, who foiled robbery attack in Mpape area of Abuja on Saturday.

Effiong, a constitutional lawyer, who premised his criticism upon Section 218 of the Nigeria’s Constitution, argued that foiling robbery attack is not the business of army personnel, describing the joint efforts as a “national scandal”.

“It is not only wrong but also unconstitutional. The Army has no business confronting armed robbers. Section 218 of the Constitution limits the role of the Armed Forces. The Army is not supposed to be deployed to fight regular crimes.

“I insist that what happened in Abuja on Saturday is a national scandal and those in power in this country should be ashamed. Deploying soldiers to tackle five armed robbers trapped in a building is a manifestation of the total collapse of our security architecture.

“How can our troops be reduced to this shameful level? A country where soldiers chase suspected rice smugglers is a big joke. I insist that what we’re witnessing is an aberration. The Armed Forces was not established for this,” Effiong tweeted.

He further stated, “The Guards Brigade do not protect Abuja. They only protect the President & the Villa. The security of Abuja is primarily within the jurisdiction of the FCT Police Command. The Army has no business protecting Abuja except if Abuja is under serious attack beyond the capacity of the police.”

Read more: https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/army-police-combo-to-foil-mpape-robbery-a-national-scandal-says-constitutional-lawyer.html

This lawyer is a fool

There are different army formations within minutes to mpape. The villa is 15mins away. If you fire AK47s close to the villa soldiers will mobilize. If you shoot guns 10mins away from the white house; marines, secret service, FBI, ATL and even boys scout will show up with guns.

I repeat this lawyer is a fool

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Injera(f): 5:43pm On Dec 29, 2019
Fake Lawyer
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by MurderX: 5:47pm On Dec 29, 2019
This Lawyer is a suspect!

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Kentrolevels: 6:00pm On Dec 29, 2019
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Simplyleo:
So now that the army was involved, the robbers should seek redress in court?

Yes, the job is not that of army, but the police was there while the army assisted.

If that is the case, then indigenes of Jos should take Nigeria to court for involving the army since the crisis in Jos is purely a civil one.




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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Neoteny(m): 6:46pm On Dec 29, 2019
decatalyst:


Please, state factual examples instead of generic claims!

The truth is, Nigeria is a failed Nation! The ones you see in the movies ain't even soldiers because they wear camouflage. They are elite police or SWAT team. The constitution doesn't alot any internal duty to the military. They could only intervene in the case of hostage taking or siege on National infrastructure...

It's a shame!

You're right.

However...

The US military does not engage in internal hostage situations. The FBI has a Hostage Rescue Team.

For other serious emergencies the national guard steps in.
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Kentrolevels: 6:46pm On Dec 29, 2019
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CaptainMeks:


This lawyer is a fool

There are different army formations within minutes to mpape. The villa is 15mins away. If you fire AK47s close to the villa soldiers will mobilize. If you shoot guns 10mins away from the white house; marines, secret service, FBI, ATL and even boys scout will show up with guns.

I repeat this lawyer is a fool
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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Tats(m): 7:26pm On Dec 29, 2019
The military has a small barracks in the area. In as much as they are not supposed to fight crime, so they would hear gunshots near their base and turn a blind eye? Even citizens in London pin down jewelry smash and grab gangs until police arrive. Is it their job to fight crime?
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by greenmonk: 9:28pm On Dec 29, 2019
Bedwyr:
The budget of the New York Police Department is five times that of the entire Nigeria Police force.

Start from there...and you will see why the Nigeria Police is not working as it should...and why the NYPD does not need to call the Army of the US to deal with crime the way we do in Nigeria.
So what is the budget of the five armed robbers.
Very soon we will employ proffessors to teach in primary schools becuase the budget of Oaklahoma high school is higher than that of university of Abuja.
What the kawyer is talking about is division of labour and proffessionalism based on the constitution.
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by jaszplus12(m): 9:36pm On Dec 29, 2019
Great analogy from the barrister! However I'm sure if he were within the premises of that bank and he saw the arrival of the combined team of police and army he would not be quoting the Constitution right now....he will be quoting Bible!
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Nobody: 9:37pm On Dec 29, 2019
greenmonk:

So what is the budget of the five armed robbers.
Very soon we will employ proffessors to teach in primary schools becuase the budget of Oaklahoma high school is higher than that of university of Abuja.
What the kawyer is talking about is division of labour and proffessionalism based on the constitution.

Parphrasing a famous footballer....when you buy a ferrari, you spend ferrari level money.

Nigerians expect big things from their police force, to the point that they expect them to be as good as the overseas ones...on a budget that is scanty.

You cannot feed a child one slice of bread in the morning, and a bottle of coke in the evening, with nothing in between, and expect the child to top his class. Impossicant.

(And yes, I am aware the Police is filled with bad eggs...so don't go there...)
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by greenmonk: 9:42pm On Dec 29, 2019
Bedwyr:


Parphrasing a famous footballer....when you buy a ferrari, you spend ferrari level money.

Nigerians expect big things from their police force, to the point that they expect them to be as good as the overseas ones...on a budget that is scanty.

You cannot feed a child one slice of bread in the morning, and a bottle of coke in the evening, with nothing in between, and expect the child to top his class. Impossicant.

(And yes, I am aware the Police is filled with bad eggs...so don't go there...)
Your case is beyond redemption.

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Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Nobody: 9:44pm On Dec 29, 2019
greenmonk:

Your case is beyond redemption.

Responding with abuse, eh.

Good evening. I made my point without abusing you, unfortunately, you could not do the same.
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by losky83: 9:54pm On Dec 29, 2019
modsfucker:
Human rights lawyer, Inibehe Effiong, has decried combined efforts of operatives of the Federal Capital Territory Police Command and soldiers from the Guards Brigades, who foiled robbery attack in Mpape area of Abuja on Saturday.

Effiong, a constitutional lawyer, who premised his criticism upon Section 218 of the Nigeria’s Constitution, argued that foiling robbery attack is not the business of army personnel, describing the joint efforts as a “national scandal”.

“It is not only wrong but also unconstitutional. The Army has no business confronting armed robbers. Section 218 of the Constitution limits the role of the Armed Forces. The Army is not supposed to be deployed to fight regular crimes.

“I insist that what happened in Abuja on Saturday is a national scandal and those in power in this country should be ashamed. Deploying soldiers to tackle five armed robbers trapped in a building is a manifestation of the total collapse of our security architecture.

“How can our troops be reduced to this shameful level? A country where soldiers chase suspected rice smugglers is a big joke. I insist that what we’re witnessing is an aberration. The Armed Forces was not established for this,” Effiong tweeted.

He further stated, “The Guards Brigade do not protect Abuja. They only protect the President & the Villa. The security of Abuja is primarily within the jurisdiction of the FCT Police Command. The Army has no business protecting Abuja except if Abuja is under serious attack beyond the capacity of the police.”

Read more: https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/army-police-combo-to-foil-mpape-robbery-a-national-scandal-says-constitutional-lawyer.html
As human,you should first acknowledge the fact that the effort by the joint team was successful before you criticize.and secondly,you sound unhappy that the planned robbery was foiled. I hope ya hands are clean?
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by Pusyiter(m): 10:19pm On Dec 29, 2019
You are right but what do you expect when your police has been reduced to a mere boys brigade while the Army to a boys scout because of systemic failure.
Re: Abuja Foiled Robbery Attack: Lawyer Describe Army Involvement A National Scandal by macklef(m): 10:33pm On Dec 29, 2019
jantofubu:


Bro forget comprehension, is it not the same Nigeria that we are in

His lamentation changes nothing, their major assignment is to secure life and properties. Drastic situations requires drastic solution.
Excuse me pls
What was drastic about 5 robbers that were "trapped" no hostage situation, just to break-in n difuse them with tear gas n all. Someone has read the constitution u are still argueing blindly.
If we have really been obeying laws in dis country, it wunt be this bad. Try to be on d side of what is right not what looks right

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