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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timbuktuo: 1:39pm On Jan 04, 2020
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:46pm On Jan 04, 2020
garetz:
Does she even have the slightest concept of what a real terrorist regime like Iran is like? Where women are locked up for not wearing their head covering and where gay people get tossed from the roof? Not to mention if you dare protest, you can get killed as 1500 Iranian folks were killed a month ago by Soleimani and his crew? That’s what a real terrorist regime looks like, not all these malaria fever induced dreams of Orange Man Bad that liberals have all the time
And how is that different from the Saudi regime, that kills assassinates critics in foreign countries. What they do to gays, women and critics inside Saudi Arabia is better left to the imagination. Meanwhile, the US does not label the saudi government terrorist. Please note that the Saudis also sponsor Sunni terrorist groups around the world.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 5:25pm On Jan 04, 2020
wirinet:
And how is that different from the Saudi regime, that kills assassinates critics in foreign countries. What they do to gays, women and critics inside Saudi Arabia is better left to the imagination. Meanwhile, the US does not label the saudi government terrorist. Please note that the Saudis also sponsor Sunni terrorist groups around the world.
And remember how Jamal Khassogi was butchered and his body dismembered..And what did they say after a year?Some people have been sentenced to death..People we do not even know...

Ani Oloshi ni awon trumpsters yenn,they live in the world of alternative facts and only choose what they want to believe..How is Iran different from saudi arabia that is even a greater killer..

Shior!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jan 04, 2020
happney65:
And remember how Jamal Khassogi was butchered and his body dismembered..And what did they say after a year?Some people have been sentenced to death..People we do not even know...

Ani Oloshi ni awon trumpsters yenn,they live in the world of alternative facts and only choose what they want to believe..How is Iran different from saudi arabia that is even a greater killer..

Shior!
how’s Saudi going to kill Kashogi in Turkey a threat to US? and why should it become a priority battle for Trump? Is Kashogi an American? Was he killed in US embassy? Was he killed on US soil?

We are talking about the killing of someone who masterminded the killings of 100s of US citizens and launching an attack on its embassy.

Are u now sympathizing with terror?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by mysticwarrior(m): 5:35pm On Jan 04, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
how’s Saudi going to kill Kashogi in Turkey a threat to US? and why should it become a priority battle for Trump? Is Kashogi an American? Was he killed in US embassy? Was he killed on US soil?

We are talking about the killing of someone who masterminded the killings of 100s of US citizens and launching an attack on its embassy.

Are u now sympathizing with terror?
why didn't they capture him and made him to stand trial for his crime?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody:
mysticwarrior:
why didn't they capture him and made him to stand trial for his crime?
im not saying what they did is right, but US can’t go to war with Saudi cos of that. same way they didn’t go to war with Iran for that. They had to strike Iran once American lives were touched.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 5:41pm On Jan 04, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
how’s Saudi going to kill Kashogi in Turkey a threat to US? and why should it become a priority battle for Trump? Is Kashogi an American? Was he killed in US embassy? Was he killed on US soil?

We are talking about the killing of someone who masterminded the killings of 100s of US citizens and launching an attack on its embassy.

Are u now sympathizing with terror?
I am not sympathizing with terror..Just telling you if you call Iran a rogue nation which it is,Likewise Saudi Arabia which Trump is in bed with..Both of them are rogue Nations and state sponsors of terror..that is what they are..Both of them..

Trump came in and tore up the Iran nuclear deal..A deal that has kept the peace before now..because that is how you do to countries like that..But hey,the the billions in arms sales to the Saudis are ultimately more important than Khashoggi’s life
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 5:52pm On Jan 04, 2020
happney65:
I am not sympathizing with terror..Just telling you if you call Iran a rogue nation which it is,Likewise Saudi Arabia which Trump is in bed with..Both of them are rogue Nations and state sponsors of terror..that is what they are..Both of them..

Trump came in and tore up the Iran nuclear deal..A deal that has kept the peace before now..because that is how you do to countries like that..But hey,the the billions in arms sales to the Saudis are ultimately more important than Khashoggi’s life
Interests! everyone is guilty of that
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:45pm On Jan 04, 2020
happney65:
I am not sympathizing with terror..Just telling you if you call Iran a rogue nation which it is,Likewise Saudi Arabia which Trump is in bed with..Both of them are rogue Nations and state sponsors of terror..that is what they are..Both of them..

Trump came in and tore up the Iran nuclear deal..A deal that has kept the peace before now..because that is how you do to countries like that..But hey,the the billions in arms sales to the Saudis are ultimately more important than Khashoggi’s life
Saudi killed Kasshogi a Saudi citizen

Soulemani killed American citizens.

Do you see a difference?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by garetz: 6:55pm On Jan 04, 2020
wirinet:
And how is that different from the Saudi regime, that kills assassinates critics in foreign countries. What they do to gays, women and critics inside Saudi Arabia is better left to the imagination. Meanwhile, the US does not label the saudi government terrorist. Please note that the Saudis also sponsor Sunni terrorist groups around the world.
happney65:
I am not sympathizing with terror..Just telling you if you call Iran a rogue nation which it is,Likewise Saudi Arabia which Trump is in bed with..Both of them are rogue Nations and state sponsors of terror..that is what they are..Both of them..

Trump came in and tore up the Iran nuclear deal..A deal that has kept the peace before now..because that is how you do to countries like that..But hey,the the billions in arms sales to the Saudis are ultimately more important than Khashoggi’s life
Saudi Arabia is a US ally, they are not launching attacks against US interests, killing US citizens or attacking US embassies, they are not a threat to the US but Iran is doing all that so Trump has a responsibility to neutralize the threat they pose.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by garetz: 7:07pm On Jan 04, 2020
mysticwarrior:
why didn't they capture him and made him to stand trial for his crime?
You should have asked Obama why they didn't capture Osama bin laden and make him to stand trial for his crime. very stupid question
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 10:00pm On Jan 04, 2020
garetz:
You should have asked Obama why they didn't capture Osama bin laden and make him to stand trial for his crime. very stupid question
why is this one comparing apple and oranges?

has Soleimani come out to claim responsibility for all the allegation levelled against him by America like bin ladden?

how many videos of Soleimani have you seen him claiming responsibility for so so attack on americans?


can you tell the difference between shekau and Nnamdi kanu?
would you support Nigerian government giving kanu shekau's treatment if they catch both of them today?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kopfschmerzens: 10:36pm On Jan 04, 2020
Soleimani, a Shi’i Iranian, planned the Benghazi attack in Libya that was carried out by Ansar Al-Sharia, a Salafi terror group

Do RePIGlican just throw random words in order to create sentences?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by garetz: 10:52pm On Jan 04, 2020
ribbit:
why is this one comparing apple and oranges?

has Soleimani come out to claim responsibility for all the allegation levelled against him by America like bin ladden?

how many videos of Soleimani have you seen him claiming responsibility for so so attack on americans?


can you tell the difference between shekau and Nnamdi kanu?
would you support Nigerian government giving kanu shekau's treatment if they catch both of them today?
Was it not his militia forces that carried out a rocket attack on a compound housing US citizens?
Was it not his militia forces that attacked the the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad? They even wrote "Soleimani is our leader" at the U.S. Embassy. And you're saying the U.S. has to wait for the idiot to claim responsibility before acting?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 11:06pm On Jan 04, 2020
garetz:
Was it not his militia forces that carried out a rocket attack on a compound housing US citizens?
Was it not his militia forces that attacked the the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad? They even wrote "Soleimani is our leader" at the U.S. Embassy. And you're saying the U.S. has to wait for the idiot to claim responsibility before acting?
can you read at all?


I gave you a perfect example, you are still deviating and typing unrelated stuff.


osama bin laden came out and claimed responsibility for 9/11 attacks and promise to do more.
shekau has come out with different videos to claim responsibility for attacks on nigerians and promise to do more.


Nnamdi kanu's ipob "terrorists group"(according to Nigerian government) has carried out attacks on nigerians, including the recent murder of two police men according to Nigerian police.
ipob members have written severally on their page that kanu is their leader. BUT kanu himself has never come out to claim responsibility for the killings of the policemen.

does it make sense to treat kanu like shekau?

answer the question.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by garetz: 11:15pm On Jan 04, 2020
ribbit:
can you read at all?


I gave you a perfect example, you are still deviating and typing unrelated stuff.


osama bin laden came out and claimed responsibility for 9/11 attacks and promise to do more.
shekau has come out with different videos to claim responsibility for attacks on nigerians and promise to do more.


Nnamdi kanu's ipob "terrorists group"(according to Nigerian government) has carried out attacks on nigerians, including the recent murder of two police men according to Nigerian police.
ipob members have written severally on their page that kanu is their leader. BUT kanu himself has never come out to claim responsibility for the killings of the policemen.

does it make sense to treat kanu like shekau?

answer the question.
And I am telling you that the U.S. doesn't have to wait for the idiot to claim responsibility before acting because there is overwhelming evidence that his militia forces carried out the attacks
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 11:22pm On Jan 04, 2020
garetz:
And I am telling you that the U.S. doesn't have to wait for the idiot to claim responsibility before acting because there is overwhelming evidence that his militia forces that carried out the attacks
okay then..
I hope you are not also a supporter of Nnamdi kanu. when Buhari decided to nuke him with otumokpo or send sars after him for killing policemen.



cos most of you trump supporters tend to love kanu
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 11:25pm On Jan 04, 2020
ribbit:
can you read at all?


I gave you a perfect example, you are still deviating and typing unrelated stuff.


osama bin laden came out and claimed responsibility for 9/11 attacks and promise to do more.
shekau has come out with different videos to claim responsibility for attacks on nigerians and promise to do more.


Nnamdi kanu's ipob "terrorists group"(according to Nigerian government) has carried out attacks on nigerians, including the recent murder of two police men according to Nigerian police.
ipob members have written severally on their page that kanu is their leader. BUT kanu himself has never come out to claim responsibility for the killings of the policemen.

does it make sense to treat kanu like shekau?

answer the question.
Do u know the US has its intelligence gathering network?
The US won’t go to a foreign land to strike the dude if they don’t have strong intel.

After all he never came out to tell the world he would be in Baghdad but US knew + details of his itinerary enough to know when and where to send the drone.

Intelligence gathering.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 11:31pm On Jan 04, 2020
ribbit:
can you read at all?


I gave you a perfect example, you are still deviating and typing unrelated stuff.


osama bin laden came out and claimed responsibility for 9/11 attacks and promise to do more.
shekau has come out with different videos to claim responsibility for attacks on nigerians and promise to do more.


Nnamdi kanu's ipob "terrorists group"(according to Nigerian government) has carried out attacks on nigerians, including the recent murder of two police men according to Nigerian police.
ipob members have written severally on their page that kanu is their leader. BUT kanu himself has never come out to claim responsibility for the killings of the policemen.

does it make sense to treat kanu like shekau?

answer the question.
Let me also ask you this.

If a group of people u are affiliated to decide to kill in ur name, they claim to do such on your behalf publicly. You on the other hand didn’t come out to denounce the killings publicly, instead you keep quiet with your body language encouraging them.

There’s something they say about silence meaning consent.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by garetz: 11:32pm On Jan 04, 2020
Kopfschmerzens:
Soleimani, a Shi’i Iranian, planned the Benghazi attack in Libya that was carried out by Ansar Al-Sharia, a Salafi terror group

Do RePIGlican just throw random words in order to create sentences?
Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of 603 American service members.

Soleimani maimed thousands more with IEDs.

Soleimani authorized the rocket attack on a compound housing US citizens

Soleimani authorized the attack on the U.S. Embassy.

He was plotting to kill more Americans.

Yes he deserves to be dead. If you’re lamenting his death, you are a terrorist supporting idiot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 11:34pm On Jan 04, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
Do u know the US has its intelligence gathering network?
The US won’t go to a foreign land to strike the dude if they don’t have strong intel.

After all he never came out to tell the world he would be in Baghdad but US knew + details of his itinerary enough to know when and where to send the drone.

Intelligence gathering.
stop watching too much Hollywood movie.
you people hype America too much as a result of craps you have watched from Hollywood movie. grin

America also had proof from intelligence gathering that Iraq had nukes. we are still waiting for them to show us the nukes Iraq had that made them invade the country.



a desperate clown in white house saying different crap to justify his unnecessary action and divert the attention of everyone from the crimes that led to his impeachment while he rallies support for himself against 2020.
yet people cant see beyond their blind support.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 11:35pm On Jan 04, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
Let me also ask you this.

If a group of people u are affiliated to decide to kill in ur name, they claim to do such on your behalf publicly. You on the other hand didn’t come out to denounce the killings publicly, instead you keep quiet with your body language encouraging them.

There’s something they say about silence meaning consent.
answer the question first

is it right to treat kanu like shekau?

if yes, then you have your answer,
if no, then tell us why.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 11:37pm On Jan 04, 2020
ribbit:
answer the question first

is it right to treat kanu like shekau?

if yes, then you have your answer,
if no, then tell us why.
even Kanu knows how he’ll be treated reason he fled
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 11:41pm On Jan 04, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
even Kanu knows how he’ll be treated reason he fled
you didn't answer the question.

im asking you personally.

we all know if they catch shekau today, they will probably kill him instantly or lock him up inside one dungeon that no one would ever hear from him again and there wont be an outrage from anyone.

im asking you, would it be alright to also treat kanu this way?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 12:16am On Jan 05, 2020
garetz:
Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of 603 American service members.

Soleimani maimed thousands more with IEDs.

Soleimani authorized the rocket attack on a compound housing US citizens

Soleimani authorized the attack on the U.S. Embassy.

He was plotting to kill more Americans.

Yes he deserves to be dead. If you’re lamenting his death, you are a terrorist supporting idiot.
O boy see allegations and speculations without any proof whatsoever.

In that case;
Soleimani caused Hurricane Karina.
Soleimani caused Hurricane Maria.
Soleimani caused the 2018's Camp Fire.
Soleimani caused the 2014 california earthquake.

The same Soleimani that was a US ally during the early days of the Afghan war.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 12:22am On Jan 05, 2020
garetz:
Was it not his militia forces that carried out a rocket attack on a compound housing US citizens?
Was it not his militia forces that attacked the the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad? They even wrote "Soleimani is our leader" at the U.S. Embassy. And you're saying the U.S. has to wait for the idiot to claim responsibility before acting?
And you believe that Soleimani would order the attack on US embassy and then order his supporters to write boldly write on the US embassy walls "Qassam Soleimani ordered the attack on US embassy" or "we are supporters of Qassam Soleimani" if you believe that then you will believe Trump would order his supporters to carry a placard reading " I withheld aid to Ukraine to help my 2020 re-election" on the senate floor during the impeachment trial.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 9:18am On Jan 05, 2020
wirinet:
And you believe that Soleimani would order the attack on US embassy and then order his supporters to write boldly write on the US embassy walls "Qassam Soleimani ordered the attack on US embassy" or "we are supporters of Qassam Soleimani" if you believe that then you will believe Trump would order his supporters to carry a placard reading " I withheld aid to Ukraine to help my 2020 re-election" on the senate floor during the impeachment trial.
you self see am grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timbuktuo: 9:20am On Jan 05, 2020
ribbit:
why is this one comparing apple and oranges?

has Soleimani come out to claim responsibility for all the allegation levelled against him by America like bin ladden?

how many videos of Soleimani have you seen him claiming responsibility for so so attack on americans?


can you tell the difference between shekau and Nnamdi kanu?
would you support Nigerian government giving kanu shekau's treatment if they catch both of them today?
This has to be the biggest joke. Soleimani is far closer to Shekau than Nnamdi Kanu. He IRGC which he leads has been designated a terrorist organization for more than 10 years.

Nnamdi Kanu is an activist not a terrorist
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 10:07am On Jan 05, 2020
[s]
Timbuktuo:
This has to be the biggest joke. Soleimani is far closer to Shekau than Nnamdi Kanu. He IRGC which he leads has been designated a terrorist organization for more than 10 years.

Nnamdi Kanu is an activist not a terrorist
[/s]where is your proof?


kanu created a terrorist organization operating in south east nigeria for more than 10 years.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:28am On Jan 05, 2020
I've been watching CNN . They are only showing the angst against the death of the 'revered' terrorist with hundreds of thousands dead due to him.
The media is just sick. Hating Trump over someone who
- Organized Benghazi
- Mined at least 6 oil tankers
- Brought down an American drone
-Repeatedly fired mortar shells at US based
- Raided US Baghdad embassy
- Killed over 600 hundred Americans in Iraq.

etc etc

This is what the media is showing . That a murderers assassination should not have been ruthlessly effected.

Trump does not want a whole scale war. He will act if terrorists kill Americans. The pathetic Iranians have set sight on 35 possible targets.
Trump upped his retaliation to 52 targets.

The Iranians are broke. Some offshoots of their terror groups may act out of smpathy and kill a few but I doubt the Mullahs will resort to an all out and out war. Their military is pathetic . One US carrier group with no holds barred and no rules of engagement observed can flatten Iran.
The Mullahs want to retain their Islamic state derived powers and I'm sure one of those 52 targets is Khamenei palace. like the Hezbollah leader who lives underground in many bunkers the Ayatollah might be forced to live in a cave. Like Saddam too only that the Ayatollah will have aircon .

CNN with it's TDS is clearly on the Iranian side. However they are not showing the Iranians celebrating his death . on Twitter they are posting celebrations of Iranians over this terrorist who has murdered many Iranians in support of the regime.

Trump is doing a Reagan thing. Attack those who send their zombies while living in caves. Reagan attacked Gadafffis tent and compound killing his adopted daughter. Striking his heart. I'm sure Trump will do the same.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:50am On Jan 05, 2020
OMG. CNN is supporting a terrorist who killed Americans, probably thousands of them.
I'm ashamed to even write that I'm watching a terrorist TDS news Network.
Has journalism been thrown out of the window?
All I can see on CNN is bout how Iranians are angry. And the Iraqis and Iranians happy with this terrorist death. Nada, zero zilch.
A narrative of impeach Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
basilico:
The media is just sick. Hating Trump over someone who
- Organized Benghazi
- Mined at least 6 oil tankers
- Brought down an American drone
-Repeatedly fired mortar shells at US based
- Raided US Baghdad embassy
- Killed over 600 hundred Americans in Iraq.
- the Benghazi US embassy attack was carried out by members of the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sharia , a Sunni groups - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack
Sunnis and shites don't see eye to eye.

Yes oil tankers were attacked by Iran in the gulf of Hormuz, but we're any of them US tankers? Besides how come you are holding only one man responsible for an action carried out by the Iranian government?

- The drone was violating Iranian airspace. Do you want the Iranians to the escorting US surveillance drones spying on their territory?

- You have evidence that General Soleimani ordered the attack on US embassy in Baghdad? Or you ascribe all actions carried out by any member of the Quds Force to Soleimani?

How many Iranian and Iraqi citizens has US troops on the orders of their Generals killed over the decades? Are you insinusting that it's fair game for Iraqis and Iranians to bomb US Generals and citizens wherever they may be in the world, even in allied countries, without informing them?
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