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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 4:07pm On Jan 09, 2020
kongolo:
If not for how blessed Africa and Africans are,we would have gone extinct a long,long time ago

Yh, if not for foreign intervention
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by vaca1: 4:08pm On Jan 09, 2020
dominique:
Interesting. In most cases, African migrants would rather mingle with other fellow African migrants or people from other races than with African Americans. They're hardly ever found in predominantly African-American neighborhoods. This article pretty much explains why.
100% correct
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 4:10pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by theDEVILisHERE: 4:11pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


arabs are also of european ancestry..

this comment ("To fighting amongst themselves, of course with the imperialist being the indirect aggressor"wink is not correct.. they never fought themselves.

wh:yte people used the f:ulanis to wage war against west africans or else the wh:yte population would have reduced madly..

it wasn't ("stubbornness of the West Africans resisting"wink, it was tribalism, there were bigger ethnic nations than the f:uulanis in west africa that's why at the end they (wh:yte people) called for peace agreement...

west africans would have never stopped fighting them, even after the peace agreement wh:yte people still favored the group they used to wage war over the indigenes..

if west africans fought themselves they would have inter-married (or used women as spoils of war) and you would have been seeing children having names like emeka balogun, but it wasn't until after independence that you see names like this...

Fighting amongst themselves is referring to civil wars eg: Seria lone, Cote d'viore, Liberia, gambia, Senegal etc
virtually every west African country has had a brutal civil war except may be Ghana

The stubbornness referred to the Igbos/Biafra area and Benin kingdom mostly cause they beard the brunt of the imperialist brutality cause they were at the receiving end of slavery more and resisted the imperialist the most

U are correct on the fulani
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by RICHOLAC(m): 4:11pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by ogbuefi677(m): 4:12pm On Jan 09, 2020
Daisy17:


Stop perpetuating all these myths. How many African Americans do you know? I am sure you don't like it when Nigerians are associated with fraud. Please go beyond what you see on TV and learn to interact with people with an open mind. There are many educated African-Americans who have worked hard to achieve success despite the adversity they faced. Also who told you that only education determines a person's social status? There are people with just high school diplomas who through sheer determination and hard work have risen to the top in their different professions.
I'm sorry if I'm wrong ma but I have relatives who were born and brought up in the US and that's all they talk about whenever we're together.
My apologies ma
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 4:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Muyoatlanta(m): 4:15pm On Jan 09, 2020
I live in Atlanta Georgia as a software engineer. The report is quite true. Most African Americans are preoccupied with throwing the race card at every opportunity how ever appropriate it may be. When you work with most of them, soon as you get to work they are like girl, i cant wait to leave...

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 4:16pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DexterousOne(m): 4:17pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


its not black... its melanin..

without melanated soil, the seeds you plant would never grow...

you can't grow food in a soil that doesn't have melanin like the desert soil..

without melanated humans, wh:yte people will die off, because they always reach a point in their generation where they can't impregnate themselves..

that's one the reasons you're seeing a lot of T.V series with a black man and wh:yte woman or vice-versa..

they (wh:yte people) are conditioning black people to interact and have s:ex with wh:yte people...

they need melanin to survive..
the earth needs melanin to survive...

A lot of white folks don't like the inter marriage and "inter breeding" tho

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by SkinnyNigga: 4:17pm On Jan 09, 2020
1Sharon:


It is derogatory. Would you like it if someone called Nigerians a name?
it is not madam! are you AA ?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by kongolo(m): 4:18pm On Jan 09, 2020
1Sharon:


Yh, if not for foreign intervention
Foreign intervention from thesame foreigners who try/tried their hardest to send us into extinction in the first place?Foreign intervention has got nothing to do with it

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by theDEVILisHERE: 4:20pm On Jan 09, 2020
codemaniacs:


the binis only started getting attacked after the yorubas had signed a "peace agreement" in the late 1800s, after the binis signed a "peace agreement" they could now face the eastern region (igbos, efiks, ibibios e.t.c) that's why the eastern region was the last to sign a "peace deal"..

they didn't resist the most.

I don't believe slavery happened, no west african was enslaved, you can say the congolese, north africans and southern africans were enslaved on their lands but west africans were paid peanuts after the "peace agreements"..

".I don't believe slavery happened.."

It happened, what u believe is irrelevant

And yes there were blacks in America before the Indians
Every continent started with black people
even Europe
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 4:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 4:22pm On Jan 09, 2020
omoharry:
If dem show..nai be sey na battle ground be that oo!! you better leave it as it is ooo! I am even surprised the thread have not caught fire ever since..AA nor dey play with topics like this oo! they are usually on the defensive.

Hahahaha!
Actually, khiaa seems not to be a bad person after I check her out very well. I think she is getting things mixed up. Some africans can be really annoying. Amd I know that africans always think african americans are stupid. But I disagree with them. She needs just to be fair and balance the whole equation very well. Though, i do not know her personally, but this is my conclusion after my encounter with her.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 4:25pm On Jan 09, 2020
DexterousOne:

Una don start with una miseducation

I was there live and direct
Heard from the horses mouth

Americoliberians ran that country aground

Election rigging in the 1920s
Poverty and near caste system that they ran subjugating the natives cos they open eye small
Etc

I have first hand info

So don't tell me that

African Americans have ruined most communities they ran

Same for Africans

So on what basis does he think he is better than Africans?

Both groups exhibit the same short sightedness

Both groups worship instant gratification

So on what basis really do you think you are better

Or vice versa
Forget story

They tried to change Liberia for the better based on the knowledge they had gained from the west. But what did the insecure Africans do? Accused them of thinking they are better! And that caused a war.

This is why blacks in diaspora fixing africa can never work because of the mentality of insecure Africans. You accuse blacks/africans from overseas of thinking they are better when they are trying to help because you are insecure.

It's part of the crabs in a barrel mentality of black ppl.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 4:25pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 4:25pm On Jan 09, 2020
My own problem is why blacks(African,African American,black Britons,everything black)Always feel they are inferior and cry about every little thing.
Are we cry babies?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 4:28pm On Jan 09, 2020
kongolo:
Foreign intervention from thesame foreigners who try/tried their hardest to send us into extinction in the first place?Foreign intervention has got nothing to do with it

Oh really? If America dropped an atomic bomb on Africa, what will they do about it? How would they retaliate?
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 4:30pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by salford: 4:31pm On Jan 09, 2020
kongolo:
Believe it or not,those Africans are actually jealous of Nigerians.It is quite disappointing how many Nigerians do not believe they possess positive traits emulated and envied by other groups
Ghanaians possess the same positive traits. They can match Nigerians in terms of anything you can think off except they hardly do drugs, scamming and are less corrupt. Now why should other Africans emulate Nigerians when Ghanaians are of better behavior

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Princewill1(m): 4:33pm On Jan 09, 2020
They're lazy,rude and uncultured yes! but we are not wearing the shoe that's why we don't understand them and the psychological problems they are facing.

The African American people in the US are a broken people. Broken by the white man thru long years of physical and mental slavery and oppression. Their spirit is dead. The African American community need a healing process.They lost every thing; their culture,identity,ancentral home land to oppression. I don't judge them because I understand their plight.

The African migrants in America are desperate in chasing after the money, they won't understand them and their problems

The attitudinal problems is the result of the phycological effect of their long years of oppression and subjugation. They need our love not rebuke. Moreover if not for their civil rights movement, African migrants won't enjoy the privilege to work in the US today.

The white man in America will even be glad that there's no unity among us.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by kongolo(m): 4:37pm On Jan 09, 2020
1Sharon:


Oh really? If America dropped an atomic bomb on Africa, what will they do about it? How would they retaliate?
What has our correspondence got to do with America dropping an atomic bomb on Africa?Are we now treading on presumptions?Didn't south Africa have A-bombs during her apartheid regime and the US pressured them to disarm their nukes when the ANC took over?
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by MariaAngeles: 4:38pm On Jan 09, 2020
Okpa042:
There is a huge chasm between African-Americans and African immigrants in the United States. That chasm has widened over the years. It has caused deep animosity between many African-Americans and their African immigrant cousins.

The chasm has prevented African-Americans from participating in the current economic boom in Africa and it has shut many African immigrants out of opportunities for economic advancement here in the United States.

The problem stems from deep misconceptions, sometimes fueled by the U.S. media. Astonishingly, many African-Americans believe that Africans are backward and primitive. Some make crude jokes about Africans or do not acknowledge the great contribution Africa has made to the world.

For their part, many African immigrants buy into the erroneous notion that African-Americans are lazy and violent.

They do not appreciate the great sacrifice African-Americans made, through advocating for their civil rights, to lay the foundation for Africans to be able to come to the United States and live in a country where both blacks and whites have equal rights, at least in theory if not always in practice.

The different experiences of the two groups

To understand the deep division that exists between African Americans and Africans, one first has to examine the background of the two groups.

Before migrating to the United States, most Africans have typically dealt with white Americans who went to Africa as Peace Corps volunteers, missionaries, doctors or teachers. These Americans acted as mentors and guardians to the Africans and developed positive relationships with them.

When they come to the United States, it has been my experience that Africans can easily identify with white Americans because they understand each other. Before migrating to the United States, the majority of Africans have had little to no direct negative experiences with whites. They simply do not hate them.

On the other hand, most African-Americans grew up in black neighborhoods where they learned from older generations the history of slavery and the cruelty it inflicted on the black race. Furthermore, they have usually experienced firsthand and in their communities the legacies of racism that still exist in the United States.

With this background, many African-Americans are not generally predisposed to trust white Americans, and they look down on those African immigrants who express respect or admiration for white Americans.

How they react to racism and discrimination

A fundamental difference between African Americans and African immigrants is the way they react to racism and discrimination.

African Americans usually see racism as the main cause of poverty among their people. They are also quick to point out instances of perceived racism, even in circumstances where it is ambiguous, unclear or more complex than simple racial bigotry or discrimination.

A classic example is the currently large African-American population in prison. Most African-Americans feel that the only reason there are so many African Americans incarcerated is their race. They blame police discrimination and lawmakers who make laws weighted to punish blacks.

For Africans, after suffering many years in civil wars, military coups and other problems, they are happy to be in a country that offers them freedom. They are ready to integrate into the American culture without getting involved in the lingering racial conflicts. They do not typically get involved in the ongoing civil rights struggle – and that has angered many African-Americans.

How they react to adversity

Perhaps the greatest difference I have seen between African immigrants and African-Americans is how they react to adversity.

Most African immigrants to the United States came here for economic advancement. They do not have any political agenda. They are willing to take any job and do not blame the “system” when they fail in their endeavors.

Most African immigrants to the United States often live in mixed neighborhoods instead of black neighborhoods and they easily integrate. African immigrants know who they are. They are not easily offended when someone tries to put them down. They know where they come from and why they are here.

For African-Americans, there is often a tendency to blame slavery for most of the problems they face today. For instance, when African American students fail in school, some educators blame slavery and do not look for other factors.

However, the time has come for African Americans to realize that while racism still persists, the best thing they can do for their children is to teach them to take full responsibility for their actions. Fathers need to take care of their children and young women need to stay in school instead of having children.

It is only when black people, be they from Africa or America, unite to instill discipline and respect for each other that the chasm that has divided us will narrow. Then we can finally work together to remove poverty from our people both here in the United States and Africa.

Source: https://www.theglobalist.com/african-americans-african-immigrants-differ/
For me, I'd go first with someone that I'm comfortable and relate well with, than someone of my race .
After all, we're all humans first

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by eby001(m): 4:38pm On Jan 09, 2020
Destroyerofyeeb:
Republic of xenophobia nah grin
I'm restraining myself from making further comments grin grin grin
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 4:40pm On Jan 09, 2020
Geminita1:
African americans have this irritating way they speak like they are angry. Very fast and forceful in speech. Huge turn off.

The women are masculine, while the men are feminine. They are a big dent to our image as black people. I wish they can go into extinction.
very True.I can interact with a Whiteman and perfectly understand everything he his saying,but black Americans?story for the gods.my ear would suffer.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DarkJeddi(m): 4:41pm On Jan 09, 2020
Jaqenhghar:

Who are the leaders? Where do they come from? Who elects them and approves of their behaviour? When they give out 500# who are the people who collect it?
And you don't have all these to hinder you,since the White Man has already provided everything..

And yet you still whine.. grin

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by RaptorX: 4:44pm On Jan 09, 2020
Blame the white media for the so called rift with the way they have portrayed Africa in their media to them and them to us but mainly us to them. But things have improved recently compared to before, a lot are now interested in knowing their roots thanks to Nigeria's afrobeat and nollywood plus Ghana year of return.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by kongolo(m): 4:47pm On Jan 09, 2020
salford:

Ghanaians possess the same positive traits. They can match Nigerians in terms of anything you can think off except they hardly do drugs, scamming and are less corrupt. Now why should other Africans emulate Nigerians when Ghanaians are of better behavior
The majority of the people in the world believe every African is a Nigerian.Many people on this same planet have never heard of Ghana.This is not to disparage Ghana.It's just what it is.
There are many Nigerians who are industrious, hard-working and diligent in and outside the nation.I have met and seen foreigners on foreign forums praising the enterprising mentality of Nigerians.Surprisingly, even the scammers many Nigerians criticize are analysed and admired by these same foreigners.I don't know why but they are.
It is a pity Nigerians do not recognize our potential but we will someday

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by salford: 4:48pm On Jan 09, 2020
Princewill1:


The white man in America will even be glad that there's no unity among us.
Not just white man in America.

Divide and Conquer is a tool the Whiteman (European descent) mastered and have used for generation to enslave other races. It was and still is a very successful tool.

It was applied in all continents they stepped their foot on. That is how a small island country like Britain can colonize countries like India, China, West Africa, the Americas etc which had more population and landmass.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 4:49pm On Jan 09, 2020
To resist and fight against attacks harmlessly without bloodshed and violence is to first give room for love, peace and unity amongst black race. To resist and fight is a broad pattern which infrastructure is one of them. AA's and Africans have many things to withdraw as inferior and put in place as superior. China is a good example.

codemaniacs:


as long as its to other Africans... wh:ytes have nukes, chemical weapons, diseases e.t.c. resist attacks is not the only solution, infrastructure also have to be built so that if they kill off the smart Africans there will always be institutions producing another set of smart Africans..
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by nlPoster: 4:50pm On Jan 09, 2020
nlPoster:


Let me ask though, do African immigrants actually fail in their endeavors?


s:

Is there any group that doesn't fail in their endeavors?


D:



Most don't..



When you crossed seven seas and seven lands to get to your destination,failure is not an option..

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