DexterousOne:
I hope you guys know that Igbos also have victim mentality similar to that if the AAs (well apart from the economic side to an extent )


When you have been short changed and oppressed....

Some degree of victim thinking comes in.

It's for you to deal with it

Igbos lost a civil war and have been politically marginalized since, which justified much of the paranoia and victimhood Igbos feel about their place in Nigeria. But the "victim mentality"doesn't affect our individual aspirations. We still go to school and work and look to improve our lives (at least, comparative to other Nigerian groups). Many African-Americans have convinced themselves that American society has erected insurmountable barriers to their progress and immerse themselves in a deep, destructive cynicism, ending up either dependent on welfare, or turning to crime. It's a mentality I just don't understand with all the boundless opportunities in America. In America, if you could just complete your high school diploma (quality K12 education which is absolutely free), avoid early single-parenthood, learn a low-skill vocation like say plumbing or building and spend responsibly within your credit limits, you can easily achieve a lower middle-class lifestyle by your 30's. I'm always amazed by just what kind of destructive lifestyle leads to the poverty and social dysfunction of African-Americans in a land of opportunity. Illegal immigrants come from Mexico to become fruit pickers and gardeners and busboys and waiters and housekeepers and nannies and support their families in Mexico. If those guys can thrive, it's really, really hard to feel sympathy for African-Americans and their plight.

Obi1kenobi:


Igbos lost a civil war and have been politically marginalized since, which justified much of the paranoia and victimhood Igbos feel about their place in Nigeria. But the "victim mentality"doesn't affect our individual aspirations. We still go to school and work and look to improve our lives (at least, comparative to other Nigerian groups). Many African-Americans have convinced themselves that American society has erected insurmountable barriers to their progress and immerse themselves in a deep, destructive cynicism, ending up either dependent on welfare, or turning to crime. It's a mentality I just don't understand with all the boundless opportunities in America. In America, if you could just complete your high school diploma (quality K12 education which is absolutely free), avoid early single-parenthood, learn a low-skill vocation like say plumbing or building and spend responsibly within your credit limits, you can easily achieve a lower middle-class lifestyle by your 30's. I'm always amazed by just what kind of destructive lifestyle leads to the poverty and social dysfunction of African-Americans in a land of opportunity. Illegal immigrants come from Mexico to become fruit pickers and gardeners and busboys and waiters and housekeepers and nannies and support their families in Mexico. If those guys can thrive, it's really, really hard to feel sympathy for African-Americans and their plight.

Exactly

You get my point
About the victim hood our people face in Nigeria


That is all I wanted

Obi1kenobi:


Igbos lost a civil war and have been politically marginalized since, which justified much of the paranoia and victimhood Igbos feel about their place in Nigeria. But the "victim mentality"doesn't affect our individual aspirations. We still go to school and work and look to improve our lives (at least, comparative to other Nigerian groups). Many African-Americans have convinced themselves that American society has erected insurmountable barriers to their progress and immerse themselves in a deep, destructive cynicism, ending up either dependent on welfare, or turning to crime. It's a mentality I just don't understand with all the boundless opportunities in America. In America, if you could just complete your high school diploma (quality K12 education which is absolutely free), avoid early single-parenthood, learn a low-skill vocation like say plumbing or building and spend responsibly within your credit limits, you can easily achieve a lower middle-class lifestyle by your 30's. I'm always amazed by just what kind of destructive lifestyle leads to the poverty and social dysfunction of African-Americans in a land of opportunity. Illegal immigrants come from Mexico to become fruit pickers and gardeners and busboys and waiters and housekeepers and nannies and support their families in Mexico. If those guys can thrive, it's really, really hard to feel sympathy for African-Americans and their plight.

Precisely my point

Ikjosh04:



Hey, can't you see it's a sarcasm. I mean no harm

Abeg no use me play like that.

zz

This report was made over 7years ago and by now a lot as changed and still changing ofcourse... AA and A are all the same regardless of where they find themselves. Whats best for both group is to be more tolerant and see each other as one race under threat!!

Could be true

emddi:
but If the Whiteman never came,we wouldn't have the privilege of interacting live despite we might be millions of kilometres away.We would still have being in animal kingdom

how do you know?

Stuffbaba:
This report was made over 7years ago and by now a lot as changed and still changing ofcourse... AA and A are all the same regardless of where they find themselves. Whats best for both group is to be more tolerant and see each other as one race under threat!!

I disagree, the rift between the two parties is still very strong. I think we need to acknowledge that all we share is just a skin color and that’s it. Forcing unity would cause more problems.

Babyvet:


I disagree, the rift between the two parties is still very strong. I think we need to acknowledge that all we share is just a skin color and that’s it. Forcing unity would cause more problems.

We don't just share skin color. We share ancestry, descent, epigenetic DNA transfer, cultural similarities, oppression, discrimination.

We share a myriad of things in common and there is nothing wrong in aligning on those basis while keeping our identities intact.

You can see the impact of the year of return on a group of AA who are curious about reconnecting with the continent. There is nothing wrong in building bridges however there will always be a segment of the AA community that will disassociate from their roots, that's human nature.

Common Ikwerre man who is without a doubt of IGbo extract is denying his own ancestry talk less of AA who are separated by close to 500 years.

morpheus24:


We don't just share skin color. We share ancestry, descent, epigenetic DNA transfer, cultural similarities, oppression, discrimination.

We share a myriad of things in common and there is nothing wrong in aligning on those basis while keeping our identities intact.

You can see the impact of the year of return on a group of AA who are curious about reconnecting with the continent. There is nothing wrong in building bridges however there will always be a segment of the AA community that will disassociate from their roots, that's human nature.

Common Ikwerre man who is without a doubt of IGbo extract is denying his own ancestry talk less of AA who are separated by close to 500 years.

Boy bye

Babyvet:


Boy bye

You be real Baby!

Ndipe:
https://www.nairaland.com/12180/african-americans-vs-africans-blamed

Brother I hail oo, 14 yr topic.

Destroyerofyeeb:
Most of these African Americans are also very intolerant and condescend Africans with their nasty, ignorant, close minded and rude lifestyle , that's why Africans tend to isolate them and flow more with Latinos, Asians, white and even afro carribeans. They are mentally damaged people always quick to attach race to every issue which in my opinion I think is gonna really limit their potentials. Nigerians are their no1 enemies, not surprised though every insecure black person has issues with Nigerians because of how over self-confident and loud we are from ghana to satafrika

We are quick to condemn ourselves without a shred of evidence or experience what African-American have been through emotionally, psychologically and economically for over 200yrs. But, we are quick to blame the Northerners in Nigeria for power mongering and in fact, the root cause of Nigeria backwardness that has impacted the country negatively since independence (less than 60yrs). The same trauma the African-American are going thru is the same trauma affecting Southern Nigeria. The Southerners would aggregate their problems to the Hausa/Fulani hegemony and cornering the resources of the South to the benefit of the Northerners. Also, the assertion that we (Southerners) could have been heaven on earth of not for the so called “Northern Parasites”.

Historically, the African-Americans have rich people (millionaires) right from time even during civil right movement eras but were denied basic needs that could improved their lives such buying houses, stocks, voting, and education not to talk of sharing classes and buses with white lords. It was demeaning to be alive in those days. They were only good to be treated as slaves. Southern Nigerians have not even seen 25% of what they experienced and the trauma can be lifelong epidemic. For example: consider the trauma of nothing having stable electricity in Nigeria for over 50yrs on our economy and the effects on everything such as inefficient healthcare, high cost of construction, substandard food and beverages sector, education system that fails to contribute to the economy in terms research and development.

Every African-American household has one of the family members in private prison across the USA, they are ripped off economically until now because they cannot own a house except thru mortgages controlled by white lenders until now. As a Black American, you’re a target to the law enforcement as criminals even without a proof and the policemen have been trained in that line: to see black people as danger. They fear, the black people will take revenge for what they have been through now that they are educated and have been economically empowered through individual efforts and talents.

My brethren, I have been married for 14yrs now and my wife is African-American. I shared your views until the reality sets in and now, I’m afraid of my black children. You cannot be more perfect to be targeted as long as you’re black skinned. The fake white love for Black-Africans is not real. It’s just to keep them away from their African-Americans brethren since they have succeeded in putting a wedge between us. The same slave owners are now trying to invent DNA forensic to tell the African-Americans their country of origins.

Stop blaming or condemning people if you have never been in their shoes. There are millions of videos online you can google to learn about what the African-Americans are going through instead sitting here condemning them. No matter how highly you’re positioned in life, the white people will never see your success as long as you’re black unless GOD makes you irreplaceable. Attached is newest example of hatred against blacks.

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By coming to their homeland, that's was a way to fix themselves

DexterousOne:

You don't have an idea

Black people suffer all over the world
None should play victim more than another
Get your shit together, that's all there is to be done

Rosskii:


WHITE BOY pretending to be one of us. ''Obi1kenobi'', the WHITE BOY RACIST who stole a Nigerian - sounding name from Star Wars to infiltrate Nairaland and continually denigrate all things black and African.

NOBODY SHOULD TAKE THIS IMBECI.LE SERIOUSLY. HE IS ACTUALLY PAID TO DO THIS BY THE NEO-NAZI FOLKS WHO TOOK OVER THIS SITE A WHILE BACK.

He's white?

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nlPoster:


I think Africans/Nigerians and AAs would still mostly dislike each other even without all these factors mentioned. I could be wrong though.

You are RiGht. AfteR GeneRatiOns being SePaRateD for hundreds of years . It's not easy just to get back together like that and familiarize

Destroyerofyeeb:
Apt. I guess it's a thing with black folks who still live with their oppressors. They don't have the balls to take the fight to their real enemies they'd rather look for Nigerians to use as scapegoats and blame for their problems. Who uses slavery as excuse in 2020? Pathetic

I call it living with my cult members. Which kind oppressors? I lOve white people DIE

Just curious, why the hailing?

1Sharon:


Brother I hail oo, 14 yr topic.

God Bless you and your family abundantly.
DEVELOPING AFRICA IS THE ONLY WAY OUT. NOt by sacking racist employees and making African Disney princesses with Wakaanda movies. That may be good. But it doesnt attack the root problem. Till then, BleaChing Continues..

holymiles:
write up is brilliant and it captured the problem in a clear and simple manner. but the little solution proffered at the end is bullshit. it is a problem of perception you can't solve it by just working together which is more like treating AIDS with paracetamol.
the solution is to develop Africa to erase the perception of primitive-ness and backwardness.
African Americans should also stop glorifying crime and drugs. this is evident on most music videos and films.

The white people messed them up with Jim Crow, Mass incarceration, black codes which prevented owning some types of businesses, socio economic opportunities.

It was law in the United states till late 1960s for blacks not to be admitted to almost half of higher institutions (all southern schools).

Their businesses were burnt down (Black wall street).

Thousands were lynched (burnt at stake) for the slightest misdemameanor and even sometimes for walking at 7pm.

Some schools in the USA were not integrated till early 70s with blacks kids previously attending really poor schools with minimal funding.

All these and many more affected these people.

And as you know, wealth or poverty is generational. Life is hard for them. Their communities were flooded with drugs due to US-Contra affair in 80s with all their jobs getting moved to Asia.

They grew up feeling the effect of jim crow and heavy discrimination.

Now, we Africans went there for economical gains and not to face-off with the white man and having zero knowledge about their political struggle.

Please feel the pain of the AAs.

Even Michelle Obama granpapa sabi book and wanted to attend University but due to black codes and stymied doors, he moved his family from evil south to Chicago and still could not secure a bus driver job because of systemic racism.

Things have changed slightly now due to different civil rights law fought for by AA with africans benefiting from it.
AA have bodies in the ground for the America you enjoy today.

Medgar Evers, Emmett Till, James Chaney to name a few.

Ndipe:
Just curious, why the hailing?

You've been here for 14yrs and the same stuff is being talked about

codemaniacs:


1Sharon will not understand it like that

you have to explain from the point of view of a woman.

for example:
you can say, MEN have no advantage in allowing WOMEN to progress at an accelerated rate because that means most WOMEN will start challenging MEN.

Anyway, are you Liberian?

I think a movie should be made about the Liberian situation..very interesting

Stuffbaba:
This report was made over 7years ago and by now a lot as changed and still changing ofcourse... AA and A are all the same regardless of where they find themselves. Whats best for both group is to be more tolerant and see each other as one race under threat!!

threat from where? Each other?

What I think AAs are saying is they dont appear to be having the opportunities Nigerians/Africans are receiving. But Africans/Nigerians have full access to any benefits available to AAs.

Nigerians seem more of a threat to fellow Nigerians before any outsiders can even get their own turn.

Seems like an intractable problem, how can this be resolved?

1Sharon:


You've been here for 14yrs and the same stuff is being talked about

MOnkeyBabe:
I call it living with my cult members. Which kind oppressors? I lOve white people DIE

Just imagine this kind of comment

zz

codemaniacs:


like I told Wolgrace.

India too is like china...

they were/are the manufacturing hub of united kingdom.

they used the knowledge to re-create their own technology.

no African nation has ever been the manufacturing hub of any european nation and the europeans don't do knowledge and technology transfer with Africans..

why don't AA's have an AA made smartphone?

Search this name. Freddie Figgers. You're welcome. I work with loads of AA along with some Africans and some Afro-Caribbean, whom all get along pretty well.. I find this immense display of spouted ignorance in this thread pretty odd and shameless of the many on this site whom support these thoughts, which I'll have to share with my extensive network of AA colleagues who do a lot of hard work in all areas of operation with Nigerians in the US.

Including the fight for the gov. to open more opportunities for African immigration, work visas and more in which this current presidential administration in office wants to drastically cut, in that they view you and your nations as worthless shit_holes. There is about 50million AA in this nation, with an amassed spending power of nearly $2Trillion. Could a "lazy" people who don't work and are all on welfare, doing drugs and commiting crime all day achieve that?

You all are acting shameless and brainless, common sense should tell you that not even close to a majority of AA are anything close to being the monsters you've conjured up and described here. That's as illogical as people stating that they hate Nigerians because they are all a bunch of over procreating, drug peddling, violent, scammers, whom are corrupt as hell.

When you are in this nation you are in contact with the full social economic spectrum of the AA community, the good and the bad, and its unfortunate that the bad mostly exist right in or near the heart of the main cities with major avenues and expressways running right through them for all to see and gawk at while the vast majority of the much, much larger white underserved and troubled population is primarily crowded away in the countryside of the nation, yet are in just as bad shape as there black equivalent.

Unlike their black pairs, these whites are drastically under policed, hence their massive levels of drug use and overdose levels in which are growing rapidly, along with violent crimes, alcoholism, suicide and std rates, while that of their black pairs are stabilizing and or decreasing. But this is also the reason for the major disparities in the arrest, prosecution and prison levels between the two groups that we witness today as well, as troubled black areas are heavily policed and while equivalent white ones are not.

You will not see this mass of white impoverished degeneracy plastered on the news as you would other groups because, it is only common sense that the ones who own the major news operations would not want to use their platform to place a spotlight on their bad side as they do with others; out of site out of mind is the theory. If the roles were reversed, we'd honestly would probably do the same.

tiar:


A topic on Nigeria seems to pop up on
Www.lipstickalley.com almost everyday. This site is an AA forum mainly frequented by AA women.

AAs keep telling themselves that Nigerians think they are superior and this drives the hateful discourse that follows as evident in some AA replies.

Nigerians stand out wherever they go (fortunately and unfortunately) and it is easy for this to be seen as threatening by others. Nigerians are driven to succeed and not to conquer.

The minute AAs stop seeing Nigerians as some form of THREAT, this will become a non-issue.

Nigerians stand out because of the negativity they portray. They are not a PROGRESSIVE threat but a THREAT of HARM.

Obi1kenobi:


Igbos lost a civil war and have been politically marginalized since, which justified much of the paranoia and victimhood Igbos feel about their place in Nigeria. But the "victim mentality"doesn't affect our individual aspirations. We still go to school and work and look to improve our lives (at least, comparative to other Nigerian groups). Many African-Americans have convinced themselves that American society has erected insurmountable barriers to their progress and immerse themselves in a deep, destructive cynicism, ending up either dependent on welfare, or turning to crime. It's a mentality I just don't understand with all the boundless opportunities in America. In America, if you could just complete your high school diploma (quality K12 education which is absolutely free), avoid early single-parenthood, learn a low-skill vocation like say plumbing or building and spend responsibly within your credit limits, you can easily achieve a lower middle-class lifestyle by your 30's. I'm always amazed by just what kind of destructive lifestyle leads to the poverty and social dysfunction of African-Americans in a land of opportunity. Illegal immigrants come from Mexico to become fruit pickers and gardeners and busboys and waiters and housekeepers and nannies and support their families in Mexico. If those guys can thrive, it's really, really hard to feel sympathy for African-Americans and their plight.

It amazes me how you arrogant people can only focus on the negative society in black Americans but can NEVER see the positive progress of a people who have come from slavery to the Whitehouse. You are such idiots you think only Igbos have aspirations. You people are blind fools. For your information education in America is not FREE, it's paid through our TAXES.