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Janosky:
After all your LIES that blood transfusions doesn't KILL....
*spits*
The same lie the System told all the victims who are now enjoying their 'life saving' misery, anguish and death a couple of years later.
Oya qwantirinu 'eating'....
In few years time, you will hear that the portions you ate may claim your life....
***********
But, Why do you go to extremes to want to force another person to eat potentially poisonous food he forbids ?
Olaadegbu Intolerant bigot .

The article was about contaminated blood that was used it did not say all blood banks are contaminated. This is what you get when you cannot understand simple statements because of your constant brainwashing that has done a lot of damage to your reasoning.

Christians don't just speak against SIN before unbelievers without enlightening them first!

There is no sin where there is no law, and there can't be laws without agreement. So it's what you have discussed and agreed upon that can be made as law, NOT what you don't understand!

SIN is what will eventually lead to the death of the sinner, but it may take a long time before it manifest.
So an enlightened person must help to educate others on the danger that SIN could cause.
Most people finds it extremely difficult to believe that some things are SIN since it doesn't cause any immediate damage!

But when God's word say something is SIN, FAITHFUL people believe (trust) God's word and try all their effort not only to desist from doing it, but also to alert others about the danger!

Maximus69:
Christians don't just speak against SIN before unbelievers without enlightening them first!

What makes you a Christian?

Maximus69:
There is no sin where there is no law, and there can't be laws without agreement. So it's what you have discussed and agreed upon that can be made as law, NOT what you don't understand!

What is sin?

Maximus69:
SIN is what will eventually lead to the death of the sinner, but it may take a long time before it manifest.
So an enlightened person must help to educate others on the danger that SIN could cause.
Most people finds it extremely difficult to believe that some things are SIN since it doesn't cause any immediate damage!

Empty talk. Who doesn't sin and who doesn't die? Are you righteous and will you not die?

Maximus69:
But when God's word say something is SIN, FAITHFUL people believe (trust) God's word and try all their effort not only to desist from doing it, but also to alert others about the danger!

With all your efforts are you saying that you are no longer a sinner?

OLAADEGBU:
(1)What makes you a Christian?



(2)What is sin?



(3)Empty talk. Who doesn't sin and who doesn't die? Are you righteous and will you not die?



(4)With all your efforts are you saying that you are no longer a sinner?

What did Kumuyi teach you?

But before you answer, let me tell you what our GB taught me.
(1) A Christian is anyone who is striving to imitate Jesus in thoughts, words and deeds. Matthew 17:5

(2) Sin is what God (Creator) knew could harm you, so he tells you DON'T do it. Genesis 2:17

(3) It's not the sin we're committing now that's causing our death, it's the one we inherited from our first parents (Adam and Eve). Psalms 49:7-9
So no matter how good you are, it doesn't matter because you're going to die just like any other descendant of Adam. {Romans 5:12} But if God's Kingdom begins now, all those living their lives in harmony with Godly principles won't need to die again {John 11:25-26} because Jesus have paid for the Adamic Sin causing our death. John 19:30

(4)No matter how hard i try now, i'm only working towards getting an approval to enter God's Kingdom where Jesus will cure me completely from the curse of Adamic sin! Revelations 7:14 compared to Luke 13:24

Maximus69:
But before you answer, let me tell you what our GB taught me.
(1) A Christian is anyone who is striving to imitate Jesus in thoughts, words and deeds. Matthew 17:5

I thought it's ONLY Jehovah's Witnesses are the only Christian"

So why does your definition now has "ANYONE WHO IS STRIVING"

You'll see how the deluded JWs will respond...

(4)No matter how hard i try now, i'm only working towards getting an approval to enter God's Kingdom where Jesus will cure me completely from the curse of Adamic sin! Revelations 7:14 compared to Luke 13:24

Oh oh....you're still trying and working towards getting approval....yet you behave like God to have known the end from the beginning.

Not only hypocrisy is you people trade mark couple with ignorance

Janosky:
After all your LIES that blood transfusions doesn't KILL....
*spits*
The same lie the System told all the victims who are now enjoying their 'life saving' misery, anguish and death a couple of years later.
Oya qwantirinu 'eating'....
In few years time, you will hear that the portions you ate may claim your life....
***********
But, Why do you go to extremes to want to force another person to eat potentially poisonous food he forbids ?
Olaadegbu Intolerant bigot .

What of the ones that blood transfusion didn't kill and the ones that received uncontaminated blood transfusion?

What of the ones bloodless surgery and medicine killed in the course of using them as lab rats?

Lol

Emusan:
I thought it's ONLY Jehovah's Witnesses are the only Christian"

So why does your definition now has "ANYONE WHO IS STRIVING"

You'll see how the deluded JWs will respond...



Oh oh....you're still trying and working towards getting approval....yet you behave like God to have known the end from the beginning.

Emusan no get sense......
You get so worked up for nothing as if JWs owe you anything....
You no know your problem.... Lols

Matt 24:12-14
12 Because of the multiplication of
wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.
13 But the one who perseveres to the end
will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the
kingdom will be preached in all the world as
a testimony to all nations, and then the end
will come.…
***************
Matthew 10:22
You will be hated by everyone on account of
My name, but the one who perseveres to the
end will be saved.
************
Luke 21:19
By your patient endurance, you will gain
your souls.
************
Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my
name's sake: but he that endureth to the end
shall be saved.
***********
Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my
name's sake: but he that shall endure unto
the end, the same shall be saved"

Janosky:
Emusan no get sense......
You get so worked up for nothing as if JWs owe you anything....
You no know your problem.... Lols

Matt 24:12-14
12 Because of the multiplication of
wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.
13 But the one who perseveres to the end
will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the
kingdom will be preached in all the world as
a testimony to all nations, and then the end
will come.…
***************
Matthew 10:22
You will be hated by everyone on account of
My name, but the one who perseveres to the
end will be saved.
************
Luke 21:19
By your patient endurance, you will gain
your souls.
************
Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my
name's sake: but he that endureth to the end
shall be saved.
***********
Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my
name's sake: but he that shall endure unto
the end, the same shall be saved"

How does this rant address my post?

You forgot to pick your brain from your GB before you reply bah

Hairyrapunzel:
What of the ones that blood transfusion didn't kill and the ones that received uncontaminated blood transfusion?

What of the ones bloodless surgery and medicine killed in the course of using them as lab rats?

Lol

What of the "lab rats" your 'life saving' blood transfusions claimed their 'life ?
The so called ' BT life saving' with out any issues propaganda has been claiming lives since the practice began.
"Abstain from blood" is a scriptural injunction & how JWs follow it is none of your bizness !!
I say I don't want BT, it's my right & my choice, RESPECT IT.
JWs don't owe you anything for the position
we take on any issues, after all, you no be God.
From bigotry to insanity.
Go get a life jare.....

Emusan:
How does this rant address my post?

You forgot to pick your brain from your GB before you reply bah

Jesus words to his disciples, "he who strives, endures/persevere to the end is the one that will be saved" ,those scriptural references confirmed Emusan lacks sense.
Go & quarrel with Jesus, him say your "once saved always saved" na FRAUD.
JWs who persevere to the end will be saved,
100% confident !!!!
Go & check your PB

Janosky:
Jesus words to his disciples, "he who strives, endures/persevere to the end is the one that will be saved" ,those scriptural references confirmed

How does this your rant address my post?

Read my post again and again and see whether it correlates with your reply...

Janosky lacks sense.

Remember to pick your sense from GB next time

Go & quarrel with Jesus, him say your "once saved always saved" na FRAUD.
JWs who persevere to the end will be saved,
100% confident !!!!
Go & check your PB

Oponu...
Can you show me anywhere on this forum I claim "once saved always saved"

Liar like your father devil!

Emusan:
(1)I thought it's ONLY Jehovah's Witnesses are the only Christian"
So why does your definition now has "ANYONE WHO IS STRIVING"
You'll see how the deluded JWs will respond...



(2)Oh oh....you're still trying and working towards getting approval....yet you behave like God to have known the end from the beginning.
Not only hypocrisy is you people trade mark couple with ignorance

Mr Runaway Agitator, you're back trailing Jehovah's Witnesses, i just don't know why you're so restless whenever JWs are around!

Are you also a Deeper Life Kumuyi pikin?

Well let me disarm your missile as usual!

(1)Jesus appointed a group in the early twentieth century,{Matthew 24:45} they are known as the International Bible Students then, later God called them by another name "Jehovah's Witnesses" {Isaiah 65:15} they're so small in number back then until Jesus supported them with the holy spirit. Luke 12:32
Today millions have joined them in the end time work assigned to them {Luke 10:2} You call all of us "Jehovah's Witnesses" but let me tell you today that we are just assisting them in the work Jesus gave them. Matthew 25:31-40
Anyone who failed to acknowledge them will PERISH!
So if you are not assisting them with their assigned duty, it simply means you're not part of Jesus' sheep who are watching each others back, therefore you're on the broad road leading off to destruction! Matthew 7:13-14

(2)Well each one of us is still working out his/her salvation, note how Paul attached this to OBEDIENCE of those leading the organization {Philippians 2:12} therefore we stick to the instruction Jesus is giving us through the GB, as long as we remain loyal to them we are sure of the prize. Zechariah 8:23
So we must keep our humility and righteousness intact to get the final approval, after IDENTITYING them whoever backslide out of self centeredness will have himself/herself to blame. Zephaniah 2:3
For your information, that's what WASHING OUR ROBES in the blood of the lamb means! Revelations 7:14

The Jehovah's Witnesses are the first set of God's Kingdom CITIZENS{Revelation 7:5-8} there government house has been prepared by the King himself (Jesus Christ) in heaven {John 14:1-4} but as for all those who will live FOREVER on earth, each one of us must listen and learn from them. Revelations 20:11-15
They are serving as the foundation stones of God's Kingdom! Revelations 21:14

For your information, all those who have lived and died as faithful servants of God before Jesus, are still coming back to this planet to learn from the books written by Jesus' disciples!

Be it Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob Moses, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha until John the baptist. All of them are coming back to humbly learn how to live in Paradise, whoever fails to accept what Jesus' followers penned down as instruction WILL NOT ENTER GOD'S KINGDOM!

Go and tell all your Pastors that Maximus said so!

Maximus69:
Mr Runaway Agitator, you're back trailing Jehovah's Witnesses, i just don't know why you're so restless whenever JWs are around!

For you to notice this, then my post must have been a thorn in your flesh....

I also noticed your deluded brother have the same perception about my post....Glory be to God in the highest!

Are you also a Deeper Life Kumuyi pikin?

Whatever!

Well let me disarm your missile as usual!

A clown wants to disarm....wonder shall never end

(1)Jesus appointed a group in the early twentieth century,{Matthew 24:45} they are known as the International Bible Students then, later God called them by another name "Jehovah's Witnesses" {Isaiah 65:15} they're so small in number back then until Jesus supported them with the holy spirit. Luke 12:32
Today millions have joined them in the end time work assigned to them {Luke 10:2} You call all of us "Jehovah's Witnesses" but let me tell you today that we are just assisting them in the work Jesus gave them. Matthew 25:31-40
Anyone who failed to acknowledge them will PERISH!
So if you are not assisting them with their assigned duty, it simply means you're not part of Jesus' sheep who are watching each others back, therefore you're on the broad road leading off to destruction! Matthew 7:13-14

(2)Well each one of us is still working out his/her salvation, note how Paul attached this to OBEDIENCE of those leading the organization {Philippians 2:12} therefore we stick to the instruction Jesus is giving us through the GB, as long as we remain loyal to them we are sure of the prize. Zechariah 8:23
So we must keep our humility and righteousness intact to get the final approval, after IDENTITYING them whoever backslide out of self centeredness will have himself/herself to blame. Zephaniah 2:3
For your information, that's what WASHING OUR ROBES in the blood of the lamb means! Revelations 7:14

The Jehovah's Witnesses are the first set of God's Kingdom CITIZENS{Revelation 7:5-8} there government house has been prepared by the King himself (Jesus Christ) in heaven {John 14:1-4} but as for all those who will live FOREVER on earth, each one of us must listen and learn from them. Revelations 20:11-15
They are serving as the foundation stones of God's Kingdom! Revelations 21:14

For your information, all those who have lived and died as faithful servants of God before Jesus, are still coming back to this planet to learn from the books written by Jesus' disciples!

Be it Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob Moses, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha until John the baptist. All of them are coming back to humbly learn how to live in Paradise, whoever fails to accept what Jesus' followers penned down as instruction WILL NOT ENTER GOD'S KINGDOM!

Go and tell all your Pastors that Maximus said so!

Just see brainwash everywhere....so pathetic that you can't see your own foolishness!

I guess you're the very one who will teach Solomon...

Emusan:
For you to notice this, then my post must have been a thorn in your flesh....
I also noticed your deluded brother have the same perception about my post....Glory be to God in the highest!
Whatever!
A clown wants to disarm....wonder shall never end
Just see brainwash everywhere....so pathetic that you can't see your own foolishness!
I guess you're the very one who will teach Solomon...

You're always running away after your ignorance has been exposed!

Solomon was wiser than all those who lived before him and his contemporaries Sir!
But whoever have learnt from Jesus' teachings is 1,000,000 times wiser than Solomon {Luke 11:31}

So if Solomon is resurrected now i will teach him the wisdom that surpassed the one given to him during his lifetime, the WISDOM is called "Jesus" the greatest counselor who ever walked on planet earth, he is the POWER and WISDOM of God! Isaiah 9:6 compared to 1Corinthians 1:24

Go and tell your Pastors!

If you're not dumb, you want to compared the WISDOM found in Jesus with the little given to Solomon!

Come on, Solomon ended his life as an IDOL WORSHIPER!

Do you think someone who stick to the teachings of Emmanuel can do that?

If Satan's missile caught up with Solomon's wisdom, who do you think could be fully competent and completely equipped to TEACH Solomon how to avoid such deadly pits?

Well go and tell your Pastors that a Christian (student of Jesus) is fully competent and completely equipped for all good works! 2Timothy 3:17

Janosky:
What of the "lab rats" your 'life saving' blood transfusions claimed their 'life ?
The so called ' BT life saving' with out any issues propaganda has been claiming lives since the practice began.
"Abstain from blood" is a scriptural injunction & how JWs follow it is none of your bizness !!
I say I don't want BT, it's my right & my choice, RESPECT IT.
JWs don't owe you anything for the position
we take on any issues, after all, you no be God.
From bigotry to insanity.
Go get a life jare.....

Baby killer. Lol
Abstain from blood is a scriptural injunction and your jehovah said you should not accept blood transfusion yet he said you should accept autologous blood transfusion aka bloodless surgery, blood fractions/components gotten from blood donated by wicked/worldly people and cows.

Your jehovah aka gb (because no invisible person will come and make any law) is a psychopath that enjoys his followers killing themselves and their children because he gets orgasms knowing his followers obey man made rules.


Lol. Baby killer. Your children are endangered humans.
Just because they said you will wake up in imaginary lala land aka paradise earth if you choose the path of death rather than allogenic blood transfusion. Lol

The paradise earth has not still come since 1945.
It will never come. Don't die of depression o.

I no fit laugh.

Janosky:
Jesus words to his disciples, "he who strives, endures/persevere to the end is the one that will be saved" ,those scriptural references confirmed Emusan lacks sense.
Go & quarrel with Jesus, him say your "once saved always saved" na FRAUD.
JWs who persevere to the end will be saved,
100% confident !!!!
Go & check your PB

By killing their babies, children and themselves means that they persevere to the end? I no fit laff.

Jim Jones and jim Jones people's temple members persevered to the end they killed themselves and their children for their beliefs.


Na cycle. Every evil on this earth is committed using God/jehovah/Allah as back up for those beliefs.

It's not new.

After yourself and your colleagues finished lying that babies don't have rights to their life and parents can refuse blood transfusion in developed countries.

You later brought out reference for only mature minors. Lol

Una no know say babies children and immature and even mature minors na government children in developed countries when someone exposed your lies you kept quiet.

Keep killing your kids in Nigeria. Your gb will never kill theirs. In fact they cant refuse blood transfusion on their babies when doctors say it is needed.

Janosky:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/transfusions-kill-patients-say-doctors-1070012.html

Transfusions kill patients, say doctors
Jeremy Laurance |
@
jeremylaurance
|
|
BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS given routinely to
tens of thousands of critically ill patients
may be killing them, doctors have found.
Canadian researchers have found that giving
extra blood, despite its essential role in
maintaining life, can cause more harm than
good in those who have been thought in
greatest need of it.
The unexpected finding, from a study of
more than 800 critically ill patients, will
deliver a serious blow to the idea of accident
victims being stretchered into hospital with
a bag of life-giving blood suspended above
them.
Doctors had assumed that any means of
boosting oxygen supply to the body's
tissues in those who were seriously ill
would improve their chances of survival. But
the Canadian research shows that critically
ill patients who received more blood were
up to twice as likely to die as those who
received less.
In Britain, an estimated 800,000 patients
receive blood transfusions each year, most
after routine surgery, and demand for blood
is rising. Using less blood would also save
costs and conserve a scarce resource.
The aim of a transfusion is to restore levels
of haemoglobin, the oxygen- carrying
constituent of red blood cells. Normal levels
of haemoglobin range from 14 to 17 grams
per decilitre. In the Canadian study, half of
the 838 seriously unwell patients were given
enough blood to raise their haemoglobin
over 10 grams per decilitre, while the other
half were restricted to only 7-9 grams per
decilitre, half the normal level. One third of
the restricted group received no blood at
all.On average the restricted group received
three units of blood (one and a half litres)
less than the unrestricted group - but more
of them survived. Among patients under 55
and the less severely ill, those who received
less blood (or no blood at all) were half as
likely to die as those who received more.
The only exceptions were patients with heart
attacks and unstable angina (chest pain).
Dr Paul Hebert and his colleagues from the
University of Ottawa say in the New England
Journal of Medicine: "Our findings indicate
that the use of a threshold ... as low as 7
grams of haemoglobin per decilitre ... was at
least as effective as and possibly superior to
a liberal transfusion strategy ... in critically
ill patients."
It is well-known that giving too much blood
or other infusions can cause heart attacks
or water on the lungs because of the effort
required to pump the extra liquid round the
body. But the researchers found these
factors could not explain the differences
they found.
In a commentary on the findings, Wesley Ely
and Gordon Bernard of the Vanderbilt
School of Medicine, Nashville, say it is
difficult to explain the harm caused by
liberal transfusion. One possibility is that a
transfusion, like a transplant, delivers a
shock to the immune system. "Harmless"
viruses in the blood may also be implicated.
They say more trials are needed to
determine the best treatment for critically ill
patients. "With such knowledge, more
physicians will be able to adhere to the
dictum `first do no harm', and we will have
a surplus of blood for transfusion rather
than a shortage."
***************
OLAADEGBU, triune pagan gods devotee, "
Medical science says blood transfusions KILLS.

Intravenous fluids infusion = blood transfusions= taking blood oath= feeding., it's all going into your body.
*********
"ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD" Acts 15:28-29.
Simple and straight forward, OBEDIENCE.
Matt10:32-39. Hebrew 11:17-19. Phil2:8. 1Sam15:22,Abraham and Jesus Christ knew that Obedience has it's price.
It's above the levels of triune pagan gods devotees and NL Churchians to comprehend.

It has now changed from blood transfusion is eating blood to blood transfusion is entering your body the way eating blood enters your body? I no fit laugh. Have they changed their teaching?

Is this new light. I no fit laugh

Please where is runaway Emusan?

Janosky:
What of the "lab rats" your 'life saving' blood transfusions claimed their 'life ?
The so called ' BT life saving' with out any issues propaganda has been claiming lives since the practice began.
"Abstain from blood" is a scriptural injunction & how JWs follow it is none of your bizness !!
I say I don't want BT, it's my right & my choice, RESPECT IT.
JWs don't owe you anything for the position
we take on any issues, after all, you no be God.
From bigotry to insanity.
Go get a life jare.....

Last last see kids that died refusing blood transfusion. Killer religion.

OLAADEGBU:
The article was about contaminated blood that was used it did not say all blood banks are contaminated. This is what you get when you cannot understand simple statements because of your constant brainwashing that has done a lot of damage to your reasoning.

Olaadegbu LIAR.
blood transfusions kills...
**************
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/
transfusions-kill-patients-say-
doctors-1070012.html
Transfusions kill patients, say doctors
Jeremy Laurance |
@
jeremylaurance
|
|
BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS given routinely to
tens of thousands of critically ill patients
may be killing them, doctors have found.
Canadian researchers have found that giving
extra blood, despite its essential role in
maintaining life, can cause more harm than
good in those who have been thought in
greatest need of it.
The unexpected finding, from a study of
more than 800 critically ill patients, will
deliver a serious blow to the idea of accident
victims being stretchered into hospital with
a bag of life-giving blood suspended above
them.
Doctors had assumed that any means of
boosting oxygen supply to the body's
tissues in those who were seriously ill
would improve their chances of survival. But
the Canadian research shows that critically
ill patients who received more blood were
up to twice as likely to die as those who
received less......"

Emusan:
How does this your rant address my post?

Read my post again and again and see whether it correlates with your reply...



Remember to pick your sense from GB next time




Oponu...
Can you show me anywhere on this forum I claim "once saved always saved"

Liar like your father devil!

I know say you go lie your "once saved always saved" is not your belief...

Janosky:
Olaadegbu LIAR.
blood transfusions kills...
**************
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/
transfusions-kill-patients-say-
doctors-1070012.html
Transfusions kill patients, say doctors
Jeremy Laurance |
@
jeremylaurance
|
|
BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS given routinely to
tens of thousands of critically ill patients
may be killing them, doctors have found.
Canadian researchers have found that giving
extra blood, despite its essential role in
maintaining life, can cause more harm than
good in those who have been thought in
greatest need of it.
The unexpected finding, from a study of
more than 800 critically ill patients, will
deliver a serious blow to the idea of accident
victims being stretchered into hospital with
a bag of life-giving blood suspended above
them.
Doctors had assumed that any means of
boosting oxygen supply to the body's
tissues in those who were seriously ill
would improve their chances of survival. But
the Canadian research shows that critically
ill patients who received more blood were
up to twice as likely to die as those who
received less......"

The ones that refused blood transfusion and still died nko?

Canadian research at least did not say that the critically I'll patient who did not receive blood transfusion at all did better.

Last last the Canadian researchers never said blood transfusion is bad and in critical conditions they shouldn't use them.

Show me the place in that article where they said they didn't use blood transfusion because blood transfusion was contaminated?


Na even 20years online article you see bring out. Please kuku give us the one your illiterate nathan knorr used to ban blood transfusion for his followers in 1945.

Hairyrapunzel:
Last last see kids that died refusing blood transfusion. Killer religion.

These young people are very brave to stand up for their beliefs with firm conviction.
They have faith like Abraham's. Heb11:17-19.
They are not cowardly bigot like you who showcase your insanity on NL.


g 94 12 / 8 p . 30
From Our Readers
Awake!—1994

From Our Readers
Faithful Youths I was touched by the series
“Youths Who Put God First.” (May 22, 1994)
When I was a teenager, I had a brain tumor.
As one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I told the
doctors: “I don’t want to take a blood
transfusion.” Although a court order was
obtained to force blood on me, the surgery
went well without it. As I read about these
faithful young servants of God, I had tears in
my eyes. They had been through the same
experience as I! Their stories have touched
my heart and strengthened my love for God.
M. P., United States
***************

Since I suffer from an incurable form of
leukemia, the experiences of young ones
who have proved their devotion to Jehovah
were quite encouraging to me as an adult.
Many thanks.
H. K., Austria

Janosky:
These young people are very brave to stand up for their beliefs with firm conviction.
They have faith like Abraham's. Heb11:17-19.
They are not cowardly bigot like you who showcase your insanity on NL.


g 94 12 / 8 p . 30
From Our Readers
Awake!—1994

From Our Readers
Faithful Youths I was touched by the series
“Youths Who Put God First.” (May 22, 1994)
When I was a teenager, I had a brain tumor.
As one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I told the
doctors: “I don’t want to take a blood
transfusion.” Although a court order was
obtained to force blood on me, the surgery
went well without it. As I read about these
faithful young servants of God, I had tears in
my eyes. They had been through the same
experience as I! Their stories have touched
my heart and strengthened my love for God.
M. P., United States
***************

Since I suffer from an incurable form of
leukemia, the experiences of young ones
who have proved their devotion to Jehovah
were quite encouraging to me as an adult.
Many thanks.
H. K., Austria

Lol your religion glorifies it's killing of children due to blood transfusion ban.

That is one out of the 27 children who killed themselves for their leaders.

Those children had been reciting their brainwashed man made belief since they were able to talk. They tell you guys what to tell drs when they tell you about blood transfusion from the time you guys can talk.


Since 1994 that they thought that if they refuse blood they will wake up immediately in paradise earth because they died for their beliefs they are still dead and paradise earth will never still come.


Boko haram kill others and themselves for their beliefs
Terrorists kill others and themselves for their beliefs
Jim Jones kille others and himself for his beliefs
Jws kill themselves and their children for their beliefs.

Last last all extremist groups kill themselves and others that includes their children for their beliefs.


Your colleague did not even take the blood transfusion he still died yet you say everybody accepting blood transfusion must die or suffer complication.

I am one of the billions that got blood transfusion and survived without complications.


You just glorify murder committed by your gb. Baby killer.

Janosky:
These young people are very brave to stand up for their beliefs with firm conviction.
They have faith like Abraham's. Heb11:17-19.
They are not cowardly bigot like you who showcase your insanity on NL.


g 94 12 / 8 p . 30
From Our Readers
Awake!—1994

From Our Readers
Faithful Youths I was touched by the series
“Youths Who Put God First.” (May 22, 1994)
When I was a teenager, I had a brain tumor.
As one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I told the
doctors: “I don’t want to take a blood
transfusion.” Although a court order was
obtained to force blood on me, the surgery
went well without it. As I read about these
faithful young servants of God, I had tears in
my eyes. They had been through the same
experience as I! Their stories have touched
my heart and strengthened my love for God.
M. P., United States
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Since I suffer from an incurable form of
leukemia, the experiences of young ones
who have proved their devotion to Jehovah
were quite encouraging to me as an adult.
Many thanks.
H. K., Austria

You people are trained to love death before sef. It's your indoctrination. You are ready to kill your children for dead nathan knorr.

Janosky:
I know say you go lie your "once saved always saved" is not your belief...

I told you, he will disappear again, once his ignorance has been exposed!

Confused Dullard who couldn't figure out the difference between a Christian and an ancient servant of God!

If we tell them to humble themselves before the Governing Body, they'll start spewing gibberish as if they know something, but when their foolishness becomes obvious, they'll run away!

He is surprised that it's Christians that will teach those ancient servants of God what the long awaited Christ taught after them! Daniel 12:8-13

My brother, let's just keep praising JEHOVAH for his mercy towards the honest hearted and sincere people!

Maximus69:
You're always running away after your ignorance has been exposed!

Solomon was wiser than all those who lived before him and his contemporaries Sir!
But whoever have learnt from Jesus' teachings is 1,000,000 times wiser than Solomon {Luke 11:31}

So if Solomon is resurrected now i will teach him the wisdom that surpassed the one given to him during his lifetime, the WISDOM is called "Jesus" the greatest counselor who ever walked on planet earth, he is the POWER and WISDOM of God! Isaiah 9:6 compared to 1Corinthians 1:24

Go and tell your Pastors!

If you're not dumb, you want to compared the WISDOM found in Jesus with the little given to Solomon!

Come on, Solomon ended his life as an IDOL WORSHIPER!

Do you think someone who stick to the teachings of Emmanuel can do that?

If Satan's missile caught up with Solomon's wisdom, who do you think could be fully competent and completely equipped to TEACH Solomon how to avoid such deadly pits?

Well go and tell your Pastors that a Christian (student of Jesus) is fully competent and completely equipped for all good works! 2Timothy 3:17

Never fight with pig because it'll drag you into mud...

Janosky:
I know say you go lie your "once saved always saved" is not your belief...

Devil is a liar and father of it all....

If you can't provide a single place where I've created a thread that supported "Once saved always saved" or where I start jumping from one thread to another claiming "Once saved always saved" then you'll continue to be who you are!

The son of your father, the devil!

But the irony part of it is that you people don't have a single shame, when you were caught red handed lying instead to tender apology you'll keep wallowing in your evil conscience trying to justify your wicked act. REPENT!!!

Emusan:
Never fight with pig because it'll drag you into mud...

Of course you must accept defeat Sir!

Because you've got NOTHING more to say after seeing clearly from what Jehovah's Witnesses are saying that Christians are much greater in wisdom than ALL THOSE who lived before Christ.

Perhaps you'll need this to WITNESS to your Pastors about the divine wisdom given to JWs.
Jesus said
"Of all those born by women, there has never been a person greater than John the baptist, but the least of those in God's kingdom is greater than John" Matthew 11:11

So go and TEACH your Pastors that Solomon (one of those born by women) could be greater than any of God's servants in material possessions, but when talking of GOD'S GIVEN WISDOM, Solomon is a baby as in a toddler if compared to a fully competent and completely equipped servants of God (Christian)! 2Timothy 3:16-17

Why? Because Solomon only knew little about what God had in mind to REVEAL to his servants, whereas a studious Christian having the complete document (Bible) knew far far more and much more than Solomon who never had the privilege of knowing Christ nor the completed message that could make us have everlasting life! 1Corinthian 13:10-11

Emusan! Go and TEACH your Pastors!

Emusan:
Devil is a liar and father of it all....

If you can't provide a single place where I've created a thread that supported "Once saved always saved" or where I start jumping from one thread to another claiming "Once saved always saved" then you'll continue to be who you are!

The son of your father, the devil!

But the irony part of it is that you people don't have a single shame, when you were caught red handed lying instead to tender apology you'll keep wallowing in your evil conscience trying to justify your wicked act. REPENT!!!

Straw man post.
Do you agree with these scriptures, the words spoken by Jesus Christ, which are "rants" to you ?

Matt 24:12-14
12 Because of the multiplication of
wickedness, the love of most will grow
cold.
13 But the one who perseveres to the
end
will be saved. 14 And this gospel of
the
kingdom will be preached in all the
world as
a testimony to all nations, and then the
end
will come.…
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Matthew 10:22
You will be hated by everyone on
account of
My name, but the one who perseveres
to the
end will be saved.
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Luke 21:19
By your patient endurance, you will
gain
your souls.
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Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my
name's sake: but he that endureth to
the end
shall be saved.
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Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my
name's sake: but he that shall endure
unto
the end, the same shall be saved"
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Those scriptures are mere " rants" to Emusan.

Hairyrapunzel:
The ones that refused blood transfusion and still died nko?

Canadian research at least did not say that the critically I'll patient who did not receive blood transfusion at all did better.

Last last the Canadian researchers never said blood transfusion is bad and in critical conditions they shouldn't use them.

.

HAIRY ARA ADIGHI RAPU ,kpele...
you done take pill to cool your sickness tonight?
*********
Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood
transfusions ...
https://www.cbsnews.com › news › jehov

AP
(CBS News) New research shows that
Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood
transfusions after cardiac surgery are at no
greater health risks than people who
undergo the procedure.
The study, which was published in the
Archives of Internal Medicine on July 2,
intended to look at patients who do not
undergo blood transfusions after cardiac
surgery. Because Jehovah's Witnesses
believe on religious grounds that they are
not supposed to ingest the blood of another,
they made ideal test subjects.
The study looked at 48,986 non-Witnesses
who had blood transfusions and 322
Witnesses who refused to have blood
transfusions who all underwent cardiac
surgery between 1983 to 2011. After
matching the patients up by similar cases,
RESEARCHERS FOUND BOTH GROUPS HAD SIMILAR RISKS FOR DYING AT THE HOSPITAL . However,
Witnesses had lower chances of having
additional operations for bleeding, renal
failure and sepsis compared with non-
Witnesses who received transfusions."
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"It behooves us to examine more closely
some Jehovah Witness processes of care
and implement them in our routine
surgeries," study author Dr. Colleen Koch, a
cardiothoracic anesthesiologist at Cleveland
Clinic in Ohio, said to HealthDay.
Witnesses spent less time in the intensive
care unit and less time in the hospital than
the other group. They also had higher
survival rates compared to the people who
were non-witnesses at 95 percent and 89
percent respectively. Both groups had close
20-year survival rates (34 percent versus 32
percent).
According to the Mayo Clinic, blood
transfusions can cause a number of health
complications, including allergic reactions,
fevers, lung injury, spread of bloodborne
infections and acute immune hemolytic
reaction - a rare transfusion reaction in
which a person's body attacks the new
blood because it's not the proper type. But,
HealthDay points out that screening
techniques introduced in the 1990s have
made it safer than it previously was.
Transfusion is typically ordered because of
the risk of anemia - which the National
Institutes of Health defines as a condition
where the body does not have enough red
blood cells. Anemia can cause the person to
feel tired or weak, have headaches and
shortness of breath, as well as problems
concentrating or thinking.
Dr. Victor A. Ferraris, a professor of
cardiothoracic surgery at the University of
Kentucky, wrote in an accompanying
commentary that the study shows that it
might do doctors well to look at their own
practices.
"The findings of this analysis by Pattakos
and colleagues add to the increasing data
that suggest that more conservative use of
blood transfusions would be in our patients'
interest, in both Witnesses and non-
Witnesses," he stated.
But, Dr. Gregory Fontana, chair of
cardiothoracic surgery at Lenox Hill Hospital
in New York City, warns HealthDay that the
results don't indicate that we should expand
the findings to everyone.
"just because this paper is published, we
cannot willy nilly start treating everyone like
Jehovah's Witnesses," he told HealthDay. "It
does provide further evidence that
transfusion with real indication carries a risk
that heretofore has been underestimated."

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Hallelujah, Praise Jah !!!

Hairyrapunzel:
By killing their babies, children and themselves means that they persevere to the end? I no fit laff.



After yourself and your colleagues finished lying that babies don't have rights to their life and parents can refuse blood transfusion in developed countries.

You later brought out reference for only mature minors. Lol

Una no know say babies children and immature and even mature minors na government children in developed countries when someone exposed your lies you kept quiet.

Keep killing your kids in Nigeria. Your gb will never kill theirs. In fact they cant refuse blood transfusion on their babies when doctors say it is needed.

LIAR....

HAIRY ARA ADIGHI RAPU ,kpele...
you done take that pill to cool your sick brain
tonight?
*****************

October 26, 2017
Open-Heart Surgery Achieves Success
Without Blood Transfusions
By SharingMayoClinic
Teamwork and careful planning allowed for
successful surgery to treat a congenital
heart defect in an infant who, for religious
reasons, could not receive blood
transfusions or blood products.
When RaeLynn Gehrke was born in
December 2016 with a complex heart
condition called tetralogy of Fallot , her
parents knew they were up against a
difficult situation.
The family, who live in Bemidji, Minnesota,
learned that an operation was required to
correct the malformations caused by
RaeLynn's condition. However, as Jehovah's
Witnesses whose faith prevents them from
receiving blood transfusions, her parents
knew that the standard of care for most
patients would not be acceptable for
RaeLynn.
Recognizing the family's concerns and the
complex circumstance it put them in, the
pediatric cardiologist treating RaeLynn in
Fargo, North Dakota, connected them with
Mayo Clinic cardiovascular surgeon Sameh
Said, M.D. Following months of careful
planning and a coordinated effort among a
team of clinicians, on July 17, 2017, the
infant was able to undergo open-heart
surgery at Mayo Clinic's Rochester campus
using a procedure that was in line with the
family's beliefs.
"It was really an example of an extraordinary
team effort," Dr. Said says of the successful
surgery — the first of its kind in a pediatric
patient at Mayo Clinic.
The teamwork RaeLynn's parents saw in
action and the communication among the
team members assured them their daughter
would receive the highest caliber of care.
"They realized our fears going into it," says
RaeLynn's mother, Summar Gehrke. "We
knew how confident and determined they
were to not only get the procedure done
safely but without any blood."
Perfecting the plan
When Dr. Said received the request to
consult on RaeLynn's case, his first thought
was that the operation was technically
possible, but it would take careful planning.
"How can we do it and keep the results
excellent and make sure the child is safe?"
Dr. Said says. "We thought if we had the
right team and preparation, we'd be able to
do the operation with minimal risks."
Dr. Said assembled a team of specialists
that included Caitlin Blau, in cardiac
perfusion, Paul Stensrud, M.D. , in cardio-
thoracic anesthesia, nurse practitioner
Corissa Hebb, Grace Arteaga. M.D. , in
pediatric critical care, and medical secretary
Rachel Johnson. The group's focus became
devising a surgical strategy for RaeLynn, the
team's most important player.
"Cardiac surgery is really a team sport,"
says Dr. Stensrud. "We normally work in
teams and sometimes teams of teams,
depending on what we need to do. This was
focused on the cardiac surgical team, but
there was a lot more communication than
usual."
"We thought if we had the right team and
preparation, we'd be able to do the
operation with minimal risks." — Sameh
Said, M.D.
Babies who require open-heart surgery and
are placed on cardiopulmonary bypass —
sometimes called the heart-lung machine —
receive blood products during surgery.
Blood is added to the heart-lung machine to
maintain hemoglobin levels and decrease
the hemodilution that can result from the
machine, especially in babies, due to their
small blood volume.
People who have heart surgery also are
often given blood transfusions to counteract
the blood lost during the operation and the
blood draws required for laboratory
measurements used to guide therapy during
and after the operation.
"We had to modify every single step during
that time," Dr. Said says.
Devising a surgical plan that wouldn't
involve blood products or transfusions
began with determining what was
acceptable to RaeLynn's parents.
"The parents were very knowledgeable and
were very specific," Dr. Said says. "Her mom
asked me to basically write the protocol
exactly how we were going to do this case.
So we did that and emailed her. That was
even before we met face-to-face."
In addition to sending RaeLynn's parents
details of the surgical protocol, several
phone calls were made between Dr. Said,
and Summar and Frank Gehrke, RaeLynn's
father. That measure further increased
RaeLynn's parents' confidence in her Mayo
Clinic physicians.
Redefining open-heart surgery
Months before
the surgery date,
the plan was put
in motion. It
started with
RaeLynn taking
iron
supplements
and the
hemoglobin-
enhancing medicine erythropoietin. Those
measures helped the baby's bone marrow
produce high levels of red blood cells, which
meant that she had more blood than typical
patients going into the surgery.
Perfusionist Caitlin Blau, who was
responsible for operating the heart-lung
machine during the surgery, used a formula
that determined how low RaeLynn's
hemoglobin would fall if no blood was used,
and then calculated what her starting value
had to be to sustain life.
"We found that in order to do the procedure,
we needed a hemoglobin between 15 and
16," Blau says.
The day of the surgery, RaeLynn's
hemoglobin was in that range at 16 grams/
deciliter (g/dL). But her hemoglobin level
wasn't the only hurdle the team had to
handle.
"For newborns and infants, it's the norm to
prime the machine with someone else's
blood, so that made this case particularly
challenging," Blau says.
Instead of blood, a crystalloid solution was
used to fill the machine's tubing and
reservoir. The heart-lung machine itself was
also modified with smaller tubing and was
positioned close to RaeLynn to make the
tubing as short as possible. These changes
minimized the volume of blood moving out
of RaeLynn, into the machine, and then back
into her body.
"For newborns and infants, it's the norm to
prime the machine with someone else's
blood, so that made this case particularly
challenging." — Caitlin Blau
"Another critical discussion revolved around
the blood we normally draw for certain labs
throughout the case. We decided as a team
the minimum amount we could do, the
better," Blau says. "I drew less than I
normally would, while still safely monitoring
RaeLynn's lab values."
When the procedure was over and the
surgery successfully completed, RaeLynn's
hemoglobin count was 12 g/dL — higher
than the 10 g/dL she had before she was
given the iron and erythropoietin
supplements prior to surgery.
Envisioning a better standard of care
Even with all of the preparations, RaeLynn's
parents were ready to face complications.
"We were prepared for something to go
wrong. So when everything went so well, we
were so relieved and so happy," Summar
says.
Just two days after having her chest opened
and her malformations corrected, the baby
was happy and smiling. At RaeLynn's two-
week post-operative visit, her doctors
declared that "her ticker was working great,"
Summar says.
"We are so thankful for the care taken by the
whole team. Her doctors and all of her
nurses took such good care of our little girl
and stayed so respectful of our beliefs,"
Summar says. "They had such great
communication with us from the beginning
to the end of the entire process."
Franks says that since her operation,
RaeLynn has grown tremendously. She's
become stronger, has more energy, and her
personality has blossomed.
"We are so thankful for the care taken by
the whole team. Her doctors and all of her
nurses took such good care of our little girl
and stayed so respectful of our beliefs." —
Summar Gehrke
The experience has not only enabled
RaeLynn's development but has advanced
her physicians' knowledge about this kind of
unique surgery.
"Transfusions can be lifesaving, but
transfusions are not without risks," says Dr.
Stensrud. "This was a learning experience
because we can adapt everything we did
here."
Indeed, the future of neonatal and infant
cardiac surgery may look much like the
example set by RaeLynn's surgery, adds
Blau.
"This case really highlights the fact that we
can do this," she says.' "