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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by khiaa(f): 12:14pm On Jan 20, 2020
Jesse25:

Yeah but not here please maybe some other social platform I just wanna get to know you, I really think you are an interesting and fun to be with cheesy

LMAO grin Funny guy.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jan 20, 2020
khiaa:


LMAO grin Funny guy.
Yeah baby... cheesy
Should I drop my Gmail wink
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by dermmy(m): 2:41pm On Jan 20, 2020
khiaa:


Aww!! Come here and let me give you a hug. wink Do you feel better now?

No I don't, cause you said you have been taken.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Babyvet: 8:19pm On Jan 20, 2020
Jesse25:

Yeah baby... cheesy
Should I drop my Gmail wink

Oh boy , try ur luck somewhere else
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by zomby(m): 9:29pm On Jan 20, 2020
Today is MLK day, how many of you munchies went out to join the African Americans to match and celebrate the day?
How many of you clearly understand what MLK stands for in African American history?
How many of you truly understand the African Americans’ struggle yesterday and today?

Instead of senselessly judging this group of people, we need to simmer down, be grateful and be thankful to the Africa Americans...Without the struggle of their forefathers most of you guys in America today wouldn’t have the opportunity to leave your shithole country/ your retarrded leaders and sit in front of your fat TVs in the United States of America.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by nlPoster: 10:08pm On Jan 20, 2020
zomby:
Today is MLK day, how many of you munchies went out to join the African Americans to match and celebrate the day?
How many of you clearly understand what MLK stands for in African American history?
How many of you truly understand the African Americans’ struggle yesterday and today?

Instead of senselessly judging this group of people, we need to simmer down, be grateful and be thankful to the Africa Americans...Without the struggle of their forefathers most of you guys in America today wouldn’t have the opportunity to leave your shithole country/ your retarrded leaders and sit in front of your fat TVs in the United States of America.

You dont have to insult people in your overzealousness. Everything is not a crime simply because people are different from you.

I dont appreciate your language.

Your first three or four sentences might have been manageable (minus the insult you embedded in the first one), but in your desperation to outshine yourself in stupidity, you just had to insult others for no reason.

How many AAs do you see insulting their leaders and country like you just did?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 9:04pm On Jan 21, 2020
zomby:
Today is MLK day, how many of you munchies went out to join the African Americans to match and celebrate the day?
How many of you clearly understand what MLK stands for in African American history?
How many of you truly understand the African Americans’ struggle yesterday and today?

Instead of senselessly judging this group of people, we need to simmer down, be grateful and be thankful to the Africa Americans...Without the struggle of their forefathers most of you guys in America today wouldn’t have the opportunity to leave your shithole country/ your retarrded leaders and sit in front of your fat TVs in the United States of America.

You must be a new member of ADOS!

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 5:08am On Jan 23, 2020
Well well well, what do we have here

Nigerians calling a whole group of people useless and other insulting generalizations, but then will go to Quo ra crying up and down to the white people there to not judge and use insulting generalizations on them.

Hmmm

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 3:46pm On Jan 23, 2020
HypocriteNazi:
Well well well, what do we have here

Nigerians calling a whole group of people useless and other insulting generalizations, but then will go to Quo ra crying up and down to the white people there to not judge and use insulting generalizations on them.

Hmmm

This is Nairaland. Take your Nazi self back to Quora

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by holymiles(m): 7:48am On Jan 25, 2020
Amen and you too. Pardon my late response
MOnkeyBabe:
God Bless you and your family abundantly.
DEVELOPING AFRICA IS THE ONLY WAY OUT. NOt by sacking racist employees and making African Disney princesses with Wakaanda movies. That may be good. But it doesnt attack the root problem. Till then, BleaChing Continues..

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by HORRORIZON: 5:33pm On Jan 26, 2020
Jesse25:


Go and get your findings right Nigerians are the most educated black immigrants in the United States, some of the best doctors in America are Nigerians I know of someone that came to America several years ago but now he is a millionaire in Nigerian, if I ever have the chance of getting to a country like American I we richer than you 20times for real, African American need to step up and start fighting for their future instead of always waiting and blaming the white for their miserable lifestyle

You people are delusional. Lol The AA revenue flow is like $2 trillion, nearly twice that of the entire African continent. How in the hell could a so called "lazy people", who don't work, and sit around doing drugs and crime all day blaming whites for their "miserable lives" generate that much capital out of a group of like 50mill compared to Africa's over 1bill inhabitants? I do agree that despite the successes we need to begin a more progressive turn toward greater levels of ownership in the American market.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by khiaa(f): 7:30am On Jan 27, 2020
iRyan:

White Americans don't own the country, Native Americans are the real owners. Some Akatas have been in the country before some whities. Read and educate yourself

There were blacks in America before any neanderthal stepped a foot on the continent.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 7:37am On Jan 27, 2020
khiaa:


There were blacks in America before any neanderthal stepped a foot on the continent.
It's almost annoying when I hear people say the country belongs to whites. Like seriously?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 8:49am On Jan 28, 2020
taneez:
We Africans cannot really understand what they went through because slavery was horrible. It is more of a psychological thing.... The privileges African immigrants are enjoying today is because African Americans fought for it with sweat and blood and so we should be compassionate.

But right now, the African Americans should look at the countries that sold them as slaves and make wise choices. There are thousands of Africans who wish to be in the US today.

Rubbish myth.

How come they too aren't enjoying those privileges or gaining from it if they are the ones that made African immigrants what they are. How come the latter is better than them ?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 4:06pm On Jan 28, 2020
khiaa:


There were blacks in America before any neanderthal stepped a foot on the continent.

The use of the term "black" in your statement above is misleading and so is the use of "Neanderthal"

They were no contemporary Africans(of which AA belong to genetically and phenotypically) that were on the continent of the Americas pre the Ameri indians or native American populations.

There is evidence of populations that existed pre the arrival of the so called native Americans 15,000 years ago but they are not genetically African.

The oldest fossil luzi dated as far back as 13,000 years ago still clusters with native Americans genetically and so does Kenewick man dated about 9,000 years ago.

The closest guess would be Melanasian or Australoid populations who resemble Africans phenotypically but are not what you would term a contemporary African.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 4:11pm On Jan 28, 2020
HORRORIZON:


You people are delusional. Lol The AA revenue flow is like $2 trillion, nearly twice that of the entire African continent. How in the hell could a so called "lazy people", who don't work, and sit around doing drugs and crime all day blaming whites for their "miserable lives" generate that much capital out of a group of like 50mill compared to Africa's over 1bill inhabitants? I do agree that despite the successes we need to begin a more progressive turn toward greater levels of ownership in the American market.

As far as ownership is concerned I highly doubt that will be achieved because the game is rigged against that. A people need Land or a sovereign area to stand a good chance in achieving anything. The AA is caught between loyalty to his country that has not wanted him for a long period of time and building this fortress behind enemy lines. Its a hard one if you ask me.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by khiaa(f): 11:50pm On Jan 28, 2020
morpheus24:


The use of the term "black" in your statement above is misleading and so is the use of "Neanderthal"

They were no contemporary Africans(of which AA belong to genetically and phenotypically) that were on the continent of the Americas pre the Ameri indians or native American populations.

There is evidence of populations that existed pre the arrival of the so called native Americans 15,000 years ago but they are not genetically African.

The oldest fossil luzi dated as far back as 13,000 years ago still clusters with native Americans genetically and so does Kenewick man dated about 9,000 years ago.

The closest guess would be Melanasian or Australoid populations who resemble Africans phenotypically but are not what you would term a contemporary African.

I never said there were Africans, I said black people as in black native Americans, which I am a part of. I consider whites as neanderthals because that's what they are a part of, which they admit themselves. There is a whole lot of the US/American history that you do not know nor understand.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Supersweet2019: 4:20am On Jan 29, 2020
khiaa:


That would be great if what you posted was the truth. The truth is black Americans success outweigh Nigerian success in America. There is no way the few Africans in America can outweigh the success of over 40 million black Americans, lets be realistic here, you aren't a threat to anyone as a matter of fact we wish you success.

It's the arrogance, false pride and COONING for whites that we hate about you. That behavior is embarrassing to all black Americans. Please work on that.

Amen! We are rooting for our Naija brothers and sister and we’ve paved the way for ALL minorities in this country. As the author said, don’t try to downplay us for people that don’t even like you! It makes you look ridiculous and naive.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Supersweet2019: 4:44am On Jan 29, 2020
Jaqenhghar:

We can argue that the system in America is rigged against the black man... its not his own country etc. Lets talk of your Niggeria ( poverty capital of the universe)where you are all educated yet you still look up to the Chinese to build roads for you. And you call the Chinese and Lebanese man "master" in your own country. Lets talk of their establishments in YOUR OWN COUNTRY where they say no blacks allowed and you treat them like demi gods. You talk as if your country is safe or one can step out after dark.

Wow! That’s crazy!
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Supersweet2019: 4:51am On Jan 29, 2020
khiaa:


You are such an arrogant hypocrite just like most Nigerians are, you said you don't judge us yet you falsely call us LAZY, RUDE, and UNCULTURED. Ironically that's how most people see Nigerians.

Exactly. Only 7% of AA are unemployed. We are not and never will be lazy. Read statistics on our education, wealth, and employment rates instead of watching movies that white producers send all over the world as propaganda about our community.

https://www.epi.org/publication/50-years-after-the-kerner-commission/

And even white people in America and globally research racial inequality in this country and use statistics to show it exists in very real ways (predatory lending, hiring practices, unconscious bias, policing, environmental racism etc) but people that live over 2,000 miles away and have never stepped foot in the US one day tell us “it is all in your mind/stop being a victim”. Lol. Unbelievable

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Supersweet2019: 4:59am On Jan 29, 2020
Obi1kenobi:


Yes, paid for by progressive taxation. I'm sure everyone understands that "free" there doesn't mean unfunded. Poor people pay little in taxes, but their children get a good education if their kids want it (many of them mock high performing black kids in school as "acting white"wink.
I didn't say anything about only Igbos having aspirations. You obviously need a refresher on grade school English comprehension if that is worth you understood from my comment. I was showing the difference between victimhood created by sectarian strife which has led to political marginalization, and self-victimhood which obstructs individual progress. In the context of Nigerian relations, Igbo disillusionment about Nigerian politics doesn't affect our individual life in any way.

I focus on the negatives in African-American society cos I do want the best for them and the statistics about their social dysfunction are alarming and they've made little progress in decades, partly attributable to the nihilistic fiction fed to many young black Americans that they have no productive future in a racist nation that is set up to obstruct their progress.
I swear African-Americans need a similar program as Jewish-Americans who are sponsored on "birthright" trips to Israel. Young African-Americans need to take a trip to Subsaharan Africa. To see the land of their ancestors. To see what hardship and poverty and deprivation and a lack of opportunity really means. Then they might actually buckle up, get a life, get responsible and stop whining about all the ways the evil white man are oppressing them, and live a productive life.

Please educate yourselves. To say we’ve made very little progress is not factual whatsoever.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/articles/black-progress-how-far-weve-come-and-how-far-we-have-to-go/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blackamericaweb.com/2019/01/17/2-5-million-african-american-men-are-in-the-upper-middle-class/amp/

A working class African American lives a much higher quality of life than even middle class Nigerians( if you even have a middle class). Please stop the divide between people of similar ancestry. Read and understand facts and stop espousing things you see in the movies. It’s not real life for over 80% of us!

And since y’all like to watch American movies so much, watch something factual. Check out the Netflix show ‘Explained’—season 1, The Racial Wealth Gap.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Supersweet2019: 5:56am On Jan 29, 2020
InyinyaAgbaOku:


Rubbish myth.

How come they too aren't enjoying those privileges or gaining from it if they are the ones that made African immigrants what they are. How come the latter is better than them ?

Pls read the articles I posted. African immigrants are not better off than African Americans born in this country as a whole, statistically speaking. Less than 20% are in what we consider “poverty”.

But poverty in the US is rich compared to third world countries. Our “poor” people have 24/7 electricity, subsidized housing, access to really good healthcare, education for their children, plenty of food, free mobile phones from the government, money to go to school or money to pay for child care for those that wish to work instead of going to school (govt funded), and a good infrastructure (great roads). I don’t really consider that poor compared to places in the world where people don’t have access to clean water or live in war torn environments. Chukwu (God) bless America.

My ancestors did not ask to come here but built this country and the great wealth people all over the world come here to enjoy. I respect and honor them for their sacrifice although many of my African brothers/sister disrespect their descendants and chose not to learn the truth about who we really are. (Crying emoji)
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 8:20am On Jan 29, 2020
Supersweet2019:


Pls read the articles I posted. African immigrants are not better off than African Americans born in this country as a whole, statistically speaking. Less than 20% are in what we consider “poverty”.

But poverty in the US is rich compared to third world countries. Our “poor” people have 24/7 electricity, subsidized housing, access to really good healthcare, education for their children, plenty of food, free mobile phones from the government, money to go to school or money to pay for child care for those that wish to work instead of going to school (govt funded), and a good infrastructure (great roads). I don’t really consider that poor compared to places in the world where people don’t have access to clean water or live in war torn environments. Chukwu (God) bless America.

My ancestors did not ask to come here but built this country and the great wealth people all over the world come here to enjoy. I respect and honor them for their sacrifice although many of my African brothers/sister disrespect their descendants and chose not to learn the truth about who we really are. (Crying emoji)

The same AA complain that our success is thanks to theirs. That they suffer while we enjoy. That they are still at the receiving end bla bla bla while we ball. That makes them liars from your own assertions.
They are more discriminatory of immigrants than whites . And Oga, we are richer and more educated, with better family system.

They should help themselves with what they claimed to have fought for and not disturb us. That's bad belle. Are they the ones that fought for Mexican and Asian immigrants too ? Yeye dey smell.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Supersweet2019: 1:32pm On Jan 29, 2020
InyinyaAgbaOku:


The same AA complain that our success is thanks to theirs. That they suffer while we enjoy. That they are still at the receiving end bla bla bla while we ball. That makes them liars from your own assertions.
They are more discriminatory of immigrants than whites . And Oga, we are richer and more educated, with better family system.

They should help themselves with what they claimed to have fought for and not disturb us. That's bad belle. Are they the ones that fought for Mexican and Asian immigrants too ? Yeye dey smell.

Not arguing with nonsense...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyiautg41h8

African Americans influence culture all around the world. And we always will! The technologists at Google even recognize this but you are unable to. And we welcome all Nigerians and wish you much success. We don’t have time to discriminate because we are busy making history. God bless!

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by btins001: 2:29pm On Jan 29, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 4:13pm On Jan 29, 2020
Supersweet2019:


Not arguing with nonsense...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyiautg41h8

African Americans influence culture all around the world. And we always will! The technologists at Google even recognize this but you are unable to. And we welcome all Nigerians and wish you much success. We don’t have time to discriminate because we are busy making history. God bless!

You do it already and you are telling me you are too busy making history being behind bars and single parents.

Are you the ones that fought for the rights of other immigrants too? Shut up biko.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 4:45pm On Jan 29, 2020
khiaa:


I never said there were Africans, I said black people as in black native Americans, which I am a part of. I consider whites as neanderthals because that's what they are a part of, which they admit themselves. There is a whole lot of the US/American history that you do not know nor understand.

"Black skinned" native Americans are genetically Asian and so I don't know what you mean in your first statement.

Skin pigmentation does not confer race nor does it confer genotype. If you are part "native American" it means you are part Asian or carry genetic material that emanates or was evolved in Asia.

As far as Neanderthals are concerned, every other peoples outside of Sub Saharan Africans carry reminants of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA in them including some very small groups in Africa including the Masai and Ethiopians who carry a back migratory genetic code from West Asia.

PS, do not assume that I do not know anything about racial or genetic history in the Americas. If you believe so then try me with the knowledge that you believe I don't have.

If you identify as an African American your "most recent" ancestors emanate from the African continent and you would carry a significant amount of DNA from that region.

Period.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Supersweet2019: 6:20pm On Jan 29, 2020
InyinyaAgbaOku:


You do it already and you are telling me you are too busy making history being behind bars and single parents.

Are you the ones that fought for the rights of other immigrants too? Shut up biko.

Ah ha! The truth comes out. A troll and not a native African person behind the computer—here to cause division. God bless (smile)..we see you.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by khiaa(f): 8:29pm On Jan 29, 2020
morpheus24:


"Black skinned" native Americans are genetically Asian and so I don't know what you mean in your first statement.

Skin pigmentation does not confer race nor does it confer genotype. If you are part "native American" it means you are part Asian or carry genetic material that emanates or was evolved in Asia.

As far as Neanderthals are concerned, every other peoples outside of Sub Saharan Africans carry reminants of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA in them including some very small groups in Africa including the Masai and Ethiopians who carry a back migratory genetic code from West Asia.

PS, do not assume that I do not know anything about racial or genetic history in the Americas. If you believe so then try me with the knowledge that you believe I don't have.

If you identify as an African American your "most recent" ancestors emanate from the African continent and you would carry a significant amount of DNA from that region.

Period.

My most recent ancestors originated from Africa as well as the U.S. Black Asians are still black people, all black people are not African. I said black people were here before the whites ever stepped a foot in America which is true.

The aboriginals of Australia are black (non African) Some Indians in India are black(non Africans) but there are Indians in India who have been there for many many centuries who originated from Africa. Yes, I know you will say that Indians are Asian but they are still black people.

Once again,. All Black People Do Not Have To Originate From Africa, unless you are using the "all people came from Africa argument."
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 9:00pm On Jan 29, 2020
khiaa:


My most recent ancestors originated from Africa as well as the U.S. Black Asians are still black people, all black people are not African. I said black people were here before the whites ever stepped a foot in America which is true.
The term black as it is used in contemporary usage denotes people of "African" Ancestry, heritage or descent. We all know there are people across the world who have skin pigmentation akeen to that of sub Saharan peoples so your narration is confusing. All kinds of people with different pigmentation from brown to white, were here in the Americas before the arrival of Europeans.

khiaa:

The aboriginals of Australia are black (non African) Some Indians in India are black(non Africans) but there are Indians in India who have been there for many many centuries who originated from Africa. Yes, I know you will say that Indians are Asian but they are still black people.

The above is all true, however you are trying to jump around in circles.

How do you know your ancestors who are "Black Asian" were actually black skinned?

If you took a DNA test, the best it could do was tell you what percentage of native American you had in you. How did you figure out that this population that contributed to your DNA were indeed "black skinned" native Americans since native Americans have different shades of skin pigmentation.

If the information came from oral tradition through your family ancestry i.e. passed down via family stories, then what native tribe in particular do you descend from, cause most of the ones in the continental US were not "black" or "black skinned" as you indicate. At least not the contemporary ones.

You are being a little mischievous here at worst and at best are being disingenuous.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 9:24pm On Jan 29, 2020
Supersweet2019:


My ancestors did not ask to come here but built this country and the great wealth people all over the world come here to enjoy. I respect and honor them for their sacrifice although many of my African brothers/sister disrespect their descendants and chose not to learn the truth about who we really are. (Crying emoji)

Ya'll are still trying to figure out who you really are after the 400+ year gap from your heritage so once you've sorted yourselves out from being Nuwabian, Hebrew Israelites, New Moors, Conscious movement, NOI, new covenant, GOCC, etc then we can talk.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by khiaa(f): 9:37pm On Jan 29, 2020
morpheus24:

The term black as it is used in contemporary usage denotes people of "African" Ancestry, heritage or descent. We all know there are people across the world who have skin pigmentation akeen to that of sub Saharan peoples so your narration is confusing. All kinds of people with different pigmentation from brown to white, were here in the Americas before the arrival of Europeans.



The above is all true, however you are trying to jump around in circles.

How do you know your ancestors who are "Black Asian" were actually black skinned?

If you took a DNA test, the best it could do was tell you what percentage of native American you had in you. How did you figure out that this population that contributed to your DNA were indeed "black skinned" native Americans since native Americans have different shades of skin pigmentation.

If the information came from oral tradition through your family ancestry i.e. passed down via family stories, then what native tribe in particular do you descend from, cause most of the ones in the continental US were not "black" or "black skinned" as you indicate. At least not the contemporary ones.

You are being a little mischievous here at worst and at best are being disingenuous.


I don't need a DNA test to tell me about my native side because I'm with them everyday. I told you that you don't know all there is to know about American/Black American history and your post proved it. Why do you assume my native side must be from some long ago intermixing?

My grandmother is half black American (her father) her mother is a mixture of Souix, Seminole(who is dark skinned) There were/are dark skinned Seminoles.

You need to do more research the American history is not the whole truth, there are many lies and deceptions, one being that Christopher Columbus discovered America.

Africans had been going back and foward to America thousands of years before Christopher stepped on the continent, some even stayed and settled in America. The history of America was designed to make whites seem superior.
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