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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 3:23pm On Feb 08, 2020
Appleyard:


You ain't see nothing yet. cool You dems started the reggae, now Trump wants to finish with the blues. Y'all forgot that everyone has skeleton in their cupboard Trump is about to dig theirs and let them have a taste of their own medicine.

Payback is a wicked fowl. cool

This is crap!!! The USA is not your Pootinland, we don't tolerate dictators here. We don't kill journalists and turn up opposition dead bodies up every other week.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 4:51pm On Feb 08, 2020
LOL Biden now taking credit for wiping out ISIS? Really? Obama administration policy allowed ISIS to march across Iraq and Syria, beheading Americans and religious minorities along the way.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 5:02pm On Feb 08, 2020
This is why I dislike the left...

When conservatives don't like an idea they avoid it. But liberals will ban it outrightly.

What is ominous is the ease with which some people go from saying that they don't like something to saying that the government should forbid it. When you go down that road, don't expect freedom to survive very long.

Thomas Sowell


I think Thomas is the most underated African American ever

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 11:16pm On Feb 08, 2020
Trapping:




My problem now on this forum is that I'm yet to see my loud mouthed billionaire friend AKA luscababoon. I want to see his reactions to all that has happened in the last couple of weeks. You know, nothing tastes sweeter than the tears of liberals and luscababoon's tears tastes best. In fact, I like the sound of luscababoons tears

My friend, Lucasbalo has been deported, and my rebellious wife, Missy89 was KIA in Afghanistan when the Taliban downed that US plane recently. wink

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 11:34pm On Feb 08, 2020
PDPGuy:
It’s funny when people say the US is a “capitalist” country; yet we have a federal-run Social Security program and corporate welfare, amongst other welfare programs.
The same people who are against “evil” socialism have no issues with receiving Medicare benefits - another government program. grin

Democratic-socialism is all about ensuring that workers, who are the engine of the economy are treated fairly. Also, DS comes along with a healthcare system that ensures that folks wouldn’t be bankrupted by astronomical medical bills. Yes, Medicare-For-All is a desirable program which would be of benefit to everyone.

I have argued this line here before. The problem is, many people already have a bad picture of socialism, even though it has evolved to become "democratic-socialism, " in its current model. That's the model working for a number of European countries like Sweden, Denmark, and even the UK to some extent. But unfortunately, that name alone is a taboo to the ears of many Americans, especially the whites that are more on the conservative views.

Thus, as Trump rightly put it during the State of the Union address last week, most Americans won't tolerate it, let alone vote for it. So, if Bernie should pick the ticket, there is no chance in hell he is going to win most of the key swing states and the minorities in the middle. Trump would just go to bed and let sleeping dogs lie (I don't know if I'm wrong here). The Dems knew this hence they are doing everything they can to make sure Sanders did not win the ticket.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 12:35am On Feb 09, 2020
Recap of Democrat debate:

—America is racist

—Soleimani would be better off alive

—National Security leakers are “war heroes”

—Climate change is a greater threat than China

—Democrats only care about black people every 4 years

...These are all real things they said

Insane

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Missy89(f): 1:25am On Feb 09, 2020
Appleyard:


My friend, Lucasbalo has been deported, and my rebellious wife, Missy89 was KIA in Afghanistan when the Taliban downed that US plane recently. wink

Can’t die
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 1:36am On Feb 09, 2020
kophschmerzenii:


This is crap!!! The USA is not your Pootinland, we don't tolerate dictators here. We don't kill journalists and turn up opposition dead bodies up every other week.

Don't be this ignorant, friend . cool Politics is the same everywhere and the rot comes in different or similar forms.

One might be overt and the other one covert, bloody or demeaning, but both are the same in deeds and objectives.

I know of John Thornton, Mayor of Washington Park, 2010, Mike Swoboda, Mayor of Kirkwood, 2008, John Roll, District Court Judge, Tucson Arizona, 2011, Drew Brown, Sheriff-elect, Dekirb County, Georgia, 2008, Tommy Burks, Democrat, State senator, Tennessee, 1998, James E. Davies, Democrat, New York City chairman, 2003, Mark Hasse, GOP, District attorney, Kaufman County, Texas, 2013, and more, all of which were targeted and killed for political reasons. (let's not mention the Presidents now RIPs). cool

I lost count of how many bodies that were picked up mysteriously dead each time people have something against Killery Clinton.

I know of some journalists in the US that have been killed mysteriously for their works (maybe it was ordinary folks like us that went to iced them for fun). cool

I know of more than 50 holistic doctors that have been killed mysteriously both within and outside the US connected to the work they do in the US (politics of economic gain vis exclusivity. You may want to ask Big Pharma and their agents in government). cool

I know of some persons that were silenced in the wake of the Iraq Invasion in other to cover the primary motive.

I know of how most of the squad purported to have killed Osama Bin Laden were conveniently packed into a Chinook helicopter and "blown" out of the sky mysteriously with the blame put on the laps of the Talibans, even though Michael Snowden told us otherwise. I just dey laf. cool.

I know of how the Obama regime spied on Trump and his campaign, if that isn't trying to get an unfair advantage over the opponent (like they accused Trump of doing per Ukraine and Biden), then I wonder what is. cool

I can go on and on, but this would suffice.

So, friend, as you can see, your political views per your country's perceived righteousness and the sin of others is far from what you think.

All countries are guilty of silencing the opposition in one way or the other, whether in pure brutality, covert brutality, character assassination, blackmail, or what have you; it's all politics.

And how is Trump a dictator? I hired you to work for me, and it turns out you're of no use to me: don't I have the right to fire you? If that's your definition of dictator, then I may need to borrow ya dictionary, don't you think, brother. wink

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 1:56am On Feb 09, 2020
stanech:
LOL Biden now taking credit for wiping out ISIS? Really? Obama administration policy allowed ISIS to march across Iraq and Syria, beheading Americans and religious minorities along the way.


Don't mind the clown. That's why he would never win.

I remember when Obama was president, US forces in Syria were bombing empty fields and sand fills so they appear they were actually fighting ISIS. The shameless DoD under Obama even used published Russian military plane bombing videos to claim they were bombing targets. It was only when Trump came that US started real targeting of ISIS, and that is after Russia has done a great job of supporting the Syrian Government, and Putin leaked the secret to Trump of the existence of a "second CIA" operation in Syria whose deeds and mission completely differ from the one under the White House. In return, Trump gave the Russians the full green light to bomb the "moderate" from the liberal created so-called rebels who were actively being funded by Washington. Of course, Trump ended that funding and what have we today, the complete death of ISIS. cool

Now, you can understand why they hate Trump and Putin so much. These guys spoil market for them in Syria.

Believe me, the dems liberal democracy idealism is the greatest threat to America's survival as a nation. They operate straight out of the Devil's own playboy.

Wicked souls.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 2:06am On Feb 09, 2020
Missy89:


Can’t die

Honest to God, I love you, Missy. The way you make your sudden appearance is so thrilling. cool But why do you always come on a bad note? cheesy Sorry for using the death thing on you.

How have you been? And how do you view the Dems chances come November?

Don't tell me you're still in the middle. All middle people are liable for deportation come November . cool I will gladly welcome you and kophschmerzenii back to the Sambisa... cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by RandomGuy48: 2:53am On Feb 09, 2020
Appleyard:


I have argued this line here before. The problem is, many people already have a bad picture of socialism, even though it has evolved to become "democratic-socialism, " in its current model. That's the model working for a number of European countries like Sweden, Denmark, and even the UK to some extent. But unfortunately, that name alone is a taboo to the ears of many Americans, especially the whites that are more on the conservative views.

Thus, as Trump rightly put it during the State of the Union address last week, most Americans won't tolerate it, let alone vote for it. So, if Bernie should pick the ticket, there is no chance in hell he is going to win most of the key swing states and the minorities in the middle.
The thing is, even if Americans don't care for socialism, that does not mean they wouldn't be willing to vote for Bernie. They could very well rationalize it with the idea of "well, his more extreme ideas won't get enacted, as congress will stop him" in the same way I know some people thought about Trump in 2016. And indeed that turned out to be the case for Trump; even with a Republican majority in both houses of congress, he didn't have the numbers to get Obamacare repealed and he didn't get funding for his wall. The same thing is true for Sanders. Even if both the House and Senate have Democrat majorities after the election, which is already far from certain, there are probably not enough Democrats there that would go along with some of his ideas to enact them into law.

I therefore expect that if Bernie gets the nomination there will be a good number of people who, while thinking his policies are too extreme, will think through what I just said and vote for him anyway on the basis they don't think he'll actually be able to pull off his ideas.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 3:18am On Feb 09, 2020
Appleyard:


Don't be this ignorant, friend . cool Politics is the same everywhere and the rot comes in different or similar forms.

One might be overt and the other one covert, bloody or demeaning, but both are the same in deeds and objectives.

I know of John Thornton, Mayor of Washington Park, 2010, Mike Swoboda, Mayor of Kirkwood, 2008, John Roll, District Court Judge, Tucson Arizona, 2011, Drew Brown, Sheriff-elect, Dekirb County, Georgia, 2008, Tommy Burks, Democrat, State senator, Tennessee, 1998, James E. Davies, Democrat, New York City chairman, 2003, Mark Hasse, GOP, District attorney, Kaufman County, Texas, 2013, and more, all of which were targeted and killed for political reasons. (let's not mention the Presidents now RIPs). cool

I lost count of how many bodies that were picked up mysteriously dead each time people have something against Killery Clinton.

I know of some journalists in the US that have been killed mysteriously for their works (maybe it was ordinary folks like us that went to iced them for fun). cool

I know of more than 50 holistic doctors that have been killed mysteriously both within and outside the US connected to the work they do in the US (politics of economic gain vis exclusivity. You may want to ask Big Pharma and their agents in government). cool

I know of some persons that were silenced in the wake of the Iraq Invasion in other to cover the primary motive.

I know of how most of the squad purported to have killed Osama Bin Laden were conveniently packed into a Chinook helicopter and "blown" out of the sky mysteriously with the blame put on the laps of the Talibans, even though Michael Snowden told us otherwise. I just dey laf. cool.

I know of how the Obama regime spied on Trump and his campaign, if that isn't trying to get an unfair advantage over the opponent (like they accused Trump of doing per Ukraine and Biden), then I wonder what is. cool

I can go on and on, but this would suffice.

So, friend, as you can see, your political views per your country's perceived righteousness and the sin of others is far from what you think.

All countries are guilty of silencing the opposition in one way or the other, whether in pure brutality, covert brutality, character assassination, blackmail, or what have you; it's all politics.

And how is Trump a dictator? I hired you to work for me, and it turns out you're of no use to me: don't I have the right to fire you? If that's your definition of dictator, then I may need to borrow ya dictionary, don't you think, brother. wink




Still crap. Spied on Trump? This just add more crap to your already conspiracy powered brain fart.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 3:21am On Feb 09, 2020
Appleyard:


My friend, Lucasbalo has been deported, and my rebellious wife, Missy89 was KIA in Afghanistan when the Taliban downed that US plane recently. wink

She should die, Cos she defend America and oppose all your Pootin ass licking. And folks think this cretins are supporting the orange agent for the love of America or to promote pootin destruction of the republic.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 8:40am On Feb 09, 2020
garetz:
Recap of Democrat debate:

—America is racist

—Soleimani would be better off alive

—National Security leakers are “war heroes”

—Climate change is a greater threat than China

—Democrats only care about black people every 4 years

...These are all real things they said

Insane

Remind me what you guys were saying just 4 years ago?Abusing people's wives and fathers on a big stage and making a mess of their Party..Awon Hyocrites..
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 12:42pm On Feb 09, 2020
feedthenation:
All hail the imperial king Trump

Ukraine expert Vindman, who testified in impeachment inquiry, escorted out of White House

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/post-impeachment-trump-deny-white-house-ukraine-expert/story?id=68826785&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_heads_hero_live_hero_hed

The National Security Council expert who testified in the House impeachment inquiry last year, U.S. Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, was escorted out of the White House Friday, his lawyer said.

His twin brother, also an Army lieutenant colonel assigned to the NSC, was also escorted off White House grounds Friday, "suddenly and with no explanation," the lawyer said. Yevgeny Vindman was a lawyer and ethics official on the NSC.

It was unclear if Vindman, the NSC's expert on Ukraine, had been dismissed from his position.

Earlier Friday, President Donald Trump did not deny reports that his White House planned to force out Vindman.

"Well, I'm not happy with him," Trump said when asked by a reporter if he wanted Vindman out of the White House. "You think I'm supposed to be happy with him? I'm not."
Methinks these Vindmen need to proceed on a de-politicisation training if they want to continue in the military.
Thereafter they should be posted to core Army duties
where very stern (I nearly said harsh) Army Colonels will daily remind them of their proper place in the chain of command.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CTPlayer: 4:54pm On Feb 09, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Trapping(m): 7:11pm On Feb 09, 2020
Appleyard:


Don't be this ignorant, friend . cool Politics is the same everywhere and the rot comes in different or similar forms.

One might be overt and the other one covert, bloody or demeaning, but both are the same in deeds and objectives.

I know of John Thornton, Mayor of Washington Park, 2010, Mike Swoboda, Mayor of Kirkwood, 2008, John Roll, District Court Judge, Tucson Arizona, 2011, Drew Brown, Sheriff-elect, Dekirb County, Georgia, 2008, Tommy Burks, Democrat, State senator, Tennessee, 1998, James E. Davies, Democrat, New York City chairman, 2003, Mark Hasse, GOP, District attorney, Kaufman County, Texas, 2013, and more, all of which were targeted and killed for political reasons. (let's not mention the Presidents now RIPs). cool

I lost count of how many bodies that were picked up mysteriously dead each time people have something against Killery Clinton.

I know of some journalists in the US that have been killed mysteriously for their works (maybe it was ordinary folks like us that went to iced them for fun). cool

I know of more than 50 holistic doctors that have been killed mysteriously both within and outside the US connected to the work they do in the US (politics of economic gain vis exclusivity. You may want to ask Big Pharma and their agents in government). cool

I know of some persons that were silenced in the wake of the Iraq Invasion in other to cover the primary motive.

I know of how most of the squad purported to have killed Osama Bin Laden were conveniently packed into a Chinook helicopter and "blown" out of the sky mysteriously with the blame put on the laps of the Talibans, even though Michael Snowden told us otherwise. I just dey laf. cool.

I know of how the Obama regime spied on Trump and his campaign, if that isn't trying to get an unfair advantage over the opponent (like they accused Trump of doing per Ukraine and Biden), then I wonder what is. cool

I can go on and on, but this would suffice.

So, friend, as you can see, your political views per your country's perceived righteousness and the sin of others is far from what you think.

All countries are guilty of silencing the opposition in one way or the other, whether in pure brutality, covert brutality, character assassination, blackmail, or what have you; it's all politics.

And how is Trump a dictator? I hired you to work for me, and it turns out you're of no use to me: don't I have the right to fire you? If that's your definition of dictator, then I may need to borrow ya dictionary, don't you think, brother. wink





Why do you love making liberals cry shit. See as you mopped the floor with that stupid guy. Please desist from shattering the only hope the left has which is Delusion.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 7:17pm On Feb 09, 2020
feedthenation:
All hail the imperial king Trump

Ukraine expert Vindman, who testified in impeachment inquiry, escorted out of White House

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/post-impeachment-trump-deny-white-house-ukraine-expert/story?id=68826785&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_heads_hero_live_hero_hed

The National Security Council expert who testified in the House impeachment inquiry last year, U.S. Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, was escorted out of the White House Friday, his lawyer said.

His twin brother, also an Army lieutenant colonel assigned to the NSC, was also escorted off White House grounds Friday, "suddenly and with no explanation," the lawyer said. Yevgeny Vindman was a lawyer and ethics official on the NSC.

It was unclear if Vindman, the NSC's expert on Ukraine, had been dismissed from his position.

Earlier Friday, President Donald Trump did not deny reports that his White House planned to force out Vindman.

"Well, I'm not happy with him," Trump said when asked by a reporter if he wanted Vindman out of the White House. "You think I'm supposed to be happy with him? I'm not."
These politico Lt. Cols. need to be reassigned to their proper levels in hardcore Army world where they will be reporting to their military superiors and not to politicians.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 5:46am On Feb 10, 2020
Exactly! Some of democrats officials couldn't count less than 100 people in a meeting yet want run the the country. Remember they stole the primary from Bernie for Hillary Clinton n 2016 and gave him $600,000 to buy his 3rd house.

Yes all democrats presidential candidates gave money to the APP company but Buttigieg gave more, that's how democrats role.
Appleyard:


From where would the shocker come? You mean from the DNC that is tramping on voters rights by rigging the outcome of their primaries? Are you even watching the news at all? Please, read alternative sources and see the facts for yourself.

Many dems voters online are now turning independents following the disgraceful and outrigt robbery that characterizes the just concluded Iowa caucus. You think people will always remain foolish. People are already loosing faith in the DC process that specializes in rigging primaries against certain individuals.

Bernie was robbed in broad daylight, and even the most conservative talk shows are pointing that out already. It's also been alleged that Pete Buttigieg paid the App that did the counting $40, 000 (I don't know how truthful that is). But everyone knows the process was rigged. And there is no kind of shock such a rigging house can deliver come November when people are already losing trust in it.

As things stand now, the dems have no solid political base and figure to unseat Trump. That's the fact.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 10:42am On Feb 10, 2020
Celebrities show up to the Oscars wearing:

$100,000+ gowns

$50,000+ jewelry

$5,000+ shoes

& Are worth millions

Only to lecture America on income inequality and claim they're oppressed?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 10:45am On Feb 10, 2020
Hollywood:

Complains about guns—has armed, private guards

Complains about climate change—flies to award shows in private jets

Complains about gun violence—creates wildly violent movies

If they didn’t have double standards, they’d have none at all

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 12:10pm On Feb 10, 2020
Taking credits for other people's work is what liberals do since they have no idea on how to improve anything. Liberals don't build, they only destroy.

I slept and forgot to log out last night.
stanech:
LOL Biden now taking credit for wiping out ISIS? Really? Obama administration policy allowed ISIS to march across Iraq and Syria, beheading Americans and religious minorities along the way.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 1:14pm On Feb 10, 2020
wowcatty:
Taking credits for other people's work is what liberals do since they have no idea on how to improve anything. Liberals don't build, they only destroy.

I slept and forgot to log out last night.

True

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:35pm On Feb 10, 2020
PDPGuy:
It’s funny when people say the US is a “capitalist” country; yet we have a federal-run Social Security program and corporate welfare, amongst other welfare programs.
The same people who are against “evil” socialism have no issues with receiving Medicare benefits - another government program. grin

Democratic-socialism is all about ensuring that workers, who are the engine of the economy are treated fairly. Also, DS comes along with a healthcare system that ensures that folks wouldn’t be bankrupted by astronomical medical bills. Yes, Medicare-For-All is a desirable program which would be of benefit to everyone.

Do you realize that the Social security is deducted from your paycheck, You contribute to social security and medicare with the hope of getting those care when you are retired or old

The old Eastern bloc, Venezuela, Cuba are examples of Socialism and how have they fared

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:40pm On Feb 10, 2020
RandomGuy48:

The thing is, even if Americans don't care for socialism, that does not mean they wouldn't be willing to vote for Bernie. They could very well rationalize it with the idea of "well, his more extreme ideas won't get enacted, as congress will stop him" in the same way I know some people thought about Trump in 2016. And indeed that turned out to be the case for Trump; even with a Republican majority in both houses of congress, he didn't have the numbers to get Obamacare repealed and he didn't get funding for his wall. The same thing is true for Sanders. Even if both the House and Senate have Democrat majorities after the election, which is already far from certain, there are probably not enough Democrats there that would go along with some of his ideas to enact them into law.

I therefore expect that if Bernie gets the nomination there will be a good number of people who, while thinking his policies are too extreme, will think through what I just said and vote for him anyway on the basis they don't think he'll actually be able to pull off his ideas.

So why take a risk with a Socialist in the first place when every of his policies are against American principles of free market enteprise

Was it the same way people said a Trump travel ban will never work or pass Congress and we are living with it?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by beatmonster(m): 7:04pm On Feb 10, 2020
Is Trump still the president of US? grin

Libtards will soon learn that the most dangerous man in the world is that man that has nothing to lose. Of all the charlatans declared running on Dem platform, none can withstand the whirlwind of MAGA blowing the political and economic terrains of God's own country. Therefore, Dem will lose presidency, Senate and House this coming election. Trump ,a tyrant according to libtards, will now execute the full powers of the presidency of the US draining the swamp completely! grin

Long live Okechukwu John Ogbonna Donald Ikenga Trump grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 7:21pm On Feb 10, 2020
raumdeuter:


Do you realize that the Social security is deducted from your paycheck, You contribute to social security and medicare with the hope of getting those care when you are retired or old

The old Eastern bloc, Venezuela, Cuba are examples of Socialism and how have they fared

Sir, that's why I say America, is at best, a mixed economy. In a capitalist country, the people pay taxes to the government, no doubt about it.

But in a purely capitalist society, the government has no business collecting taxes from people in order for the same government to pay the same folks once they hit the age of retirement. Instead, individuals should be wholly responsible for planning for life after retirement. We wouldn't need the government to 'help' us put away some money for retirement.

Now, I would never support the complete elimination of private health insurance from the marketplace, because I'm not sure a single-payer system would be more cost-efficient that what we have now. Instead, I will always support having a government option, as is practiced in Canada.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 9:12pm On Feb 10, 2020
kophschmerzenii:


This is crap, knowing that senselessness runs in your family tree. I'm not surprise.
Brace up for the next 5 years.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:10am On Feb 11, 2020
RandomGuy48:

The thing is, even if Americans don't care for socialism, that does not mean they wouldn't be willing to vote for Bernie. They could very well rationalize it with the idea of "well, his more extreme ideas won't get enacted, as congress will stop him" in the same way I know some people thought about Trump in 2016. And indeed that turned out to be the case for Trump; even with a Republican majority in both houses of congress, he didn't have the numbers to get Obamacare repealed and he didn't get funding for his wall. The same thing is true for Sanders. Even if both the House and Senate have Democrat majorities after the election, which is already far from certain, there are probably not enough Democrats there that would go along with some of his ideas to enact them into law.

I therefore expect that if Bernie gets the nomination there will be a good number of people who, while thinking his policies are too extreme, will think through what I just said and vote for him anyway on the basis they don't think he'll actually be able to pull off his ideas.

Below is a quote from Yahoo from a Democratic governor

“Every day, I worry about Bernie Sanders being the nominee,” Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo told Yahoo Finance recently. “I don’t think he can beat President Trump. Socialism isn’t the answer. The American people, I think, will reject that in November.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:23pm On Feb 11, 2020
raumdeuter:


Below is a quote from Yahoo

“Every day, I worry about Bernie Sanders being the nominee,” Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo told Yahoo Finance recently. “I don’t think he can beat President Trump. Socialism isn’t the answer. The American people, I think, will reject that in November.

The stable genious at work. Trump would prefer personal dislike, but policy economic approval. As long as his policy's have favoured stock investments, 401ks, job creation, many minorities off foodstamps, blue collar favorability, lower taxations, thebig fight will be among independents.
Trump wont care that many dont like ad long ad hr assures them that their economic well being is all he is after.
Come in the democrats promising to increase taxes so they can fund social justice warriors demands and overtax the wealthiest.
Economy stupid, a stable economy is what people will vote for Not SJW worries about who can walk into restrooms, which gender idenity can go on a wrestling match with bona fide females, how many board directors should be people of color, how many minorities should win oscars, how climate change warriors get to control whether fossil fuels should be used, how many should plastic straws be banned, and even whether a mother should wait to give birth before she decides to kill her born alive baby. All these are leftist ideals. Dems are 25% prolife .Trump will win a landslide because the dem leftists have gone too far stupidly left.

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