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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by gratiaeo(m): 12:00pm On Feb 14, 2020
Muslim and lies

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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Debaiz: 12:49pm On Feb 14, 2020
Xbee007:

Science says nothing existed before the big bang. Not even God.
Religion says God created the earth. Didn't tell us how.

So who told the Quran about the Big Bang 1400years before Science knew about it?

How can science tell you God didn’t exist before Big Bang when science deals with physical and not spiritual? Does it make sense? Ordinary darkness, science don’t know its origin.

Has science acknowledge the existence of God after the Big Bang? If they haven’t, then how come they’re so sure God didn’t exist before the Big Bang?

When they say Nothing existed they’re talking about physical matter that occupies space cos even air and darkness were in existence before the Big Bang but they’re not physical matter that occupies space same way God is not in physical form that occupies space like humans.

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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Chronicle222: 12:50pm On Feb 14, 2020
Every bit of human creations will experience death but the reality will be too late.

[On the Day when legs are bared and they are called on to prostrate, they will not be able to do so. Their eyes will be downcast, darkened by debasement; for they were called on to prostrate when they were in full possession of their faculties.] (Al-Qalam 68:42-43)

[When death comes to one of them, he says, “My Lord, send me back again, so that perhaps I may act rightly regarding the things I failed to do!” No indeed! It is just words he utters.] (Al-Mu’minun 23:99-100)

[If you could only see the wrongdoers in the throes of death when the angels are stretching out their hands, saying, “Disgorge your own selves! Today you will be repaid with the punishment of humiliation for saying something other than the truth about Allah, and being arrogant about His Signs.”] (Al-An`am 6:93)

[How will it be when the angels take them in death, beating their faces and their backs?] (Muhammad 47:27)

And one leg is entwined with the other: that Day he will be driven to your Lord. He neither affirmed the truth nor did he pray, but rather denied the truth and turned away and then went off to his family, swaggering. It is coming closer to you and closer. Then closer to you and closer still.] (Al-Qiyamah 75:29-35)

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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by TheOutlaw: 1:37pm On Feb 14, 2020
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AntiChristian:


Keep mute!

Send this to them yourself!

Numbers
Chapter 31
7-12

7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by TheOutlaw: 1:39pm On Feb 14, 2020
Have you ever seen a child rapist, agbaya admit that he has a sex addiction problem?



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AntiChristian:



have you seen a big thief confessing that he stole?

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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by TheOutlaw: 1:49pm On Feb 14, 2020
According to Ibn Abbass who is the greatest interpreter of the koran, the world is on the back of a whale. Show me how this is consistent with science.


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Debaiz:


Science didn’t render anything useless. If anything, science is proving what the Quran said to be right.

Universe was created out of nothing(existed after not existing)

Did your science say something existed before the universe?

Your science started knowing about the the Big Bang theory in the 19th century.

The Quran had talked about the Big Bang theory 1400 years ago.

Science is too young for some of what the Quran teaches.

Know your religion before saying you’re a Muslim.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Debaiz: 3:27pm On Feb 14, 2020
TheOutlaw:
According to Ibn Abbass who is the greatest interpreter of the koran, the world is on the back of a whale. Show me how this is consistent with science.


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I will oblige to engage you only if you can point out where this is said in the Quran.

My point on Big Bang theory has a reference in the Quran which I can point out only If you can point out your reference from the Quran then we can talk. I don’t discuss someone said this someone said that.


If you can’t please don’t bother replying.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Gentlemanforyou: 3:48pm On Feb 14, 2020
AntiChristian:



have you seen a big thief confessing that he stole?


Yes like 2 million times
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by AntiChristian: 4:47pm On Feb 14, 2020
Gentlemanforyou:


Yes like 2 million times

That means you guys are the greatest thieves we've never caught!
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by AntiChristian: 4:59pm On Feb 14, 2020
TheOutlaw:
Have you ever seen a child rapist, agbaya admit that he has a sex addiction problem?


Abraham too and Jacob have same problem too in your Bible.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by AntiChristian: 5:01pm On Feb 14, 2020
TheOutlaw:
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Don't bring that crap. After killing all the young innocent male kids, they took away the young girls to enjoy!

Why can't your LORD forgive the young males children?

Your God is violent and supports violence/raping in your words!

Blame your Lord first!
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by TheOutlaw: 5:53pm On Feb 14, 2020
Isn't Ibn Abbass the man who was given a special anointing to interpret the koran by muhammad? So who should I believe between you and Ibn Abbass?


Debaiz:


I will oblige to engage you only if you can point out where this is said in the Quran.

My point on Big Bang theory has a reference in the Quran which I can point out only If you can point out your reference from the Quran then we can talk. I don’t discuss someone said this someone said that.


If you can’t please don’t bother replying.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by TheOutlaw: 5:57pm On Feb 14, 2020
Because my LORD is a LORD of justice not a god of sex like allah.

God killed all the Israelite men and Baal Peor women who were committing whoredom and spared the lives of those who kept themselves chaste. What is wrong with that?

Stop comparing our LORD with your Sex Award Winner (SAW) grin


AntiChristian:


Don't bring that crap. After killing all the young innocent male kids, they took away the young girls to enjoy!

Why can't your LORD forgive the young males children?

Your God is violent and supports violence/raping in your words!

Blame your Lord first!
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by ContractKiller: 6:10pm On Feb 14, 2020
No reasonable intelligent person will take
Islam seriously on matters of science. Islam is as knowledgeable about science as a pig knows about hygiene.

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Debaiz:


I will oblige to engage you only if you can point out where this is said in the Quran.

My point on Big Bang theory has a reference in the Quran which I can point out only If you can point out your reference from the Quran then we can talk. I don’t discuss someone said this someone said that.


If you can’t please don’t bother replying.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Debaiz: 7:31pm On Feb 14, 2020
TheOutlaw:
Isn't Ibn Abbass the man who was given a special anointing to interpret the koran by muhammad? So who should I believe between you and Ibn Abbass?



I’m not asking you to believe me. In fact I don’t believe either you or ibn abass. I only believe the Quran and the prophet himself. Anyone else, I don’t care.

Bring Quran citation or what ever you’re saying is nonsense. That what any Muslim would ask for.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Debaiz: 7:39pm On Feb 14, 2020
ContractKiller:
No reasonable intelligent person will take
Islam seriously on matters of science. Islam is as knowledgeable about science as a pig knows about hygiene.

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Yes you’re right Islam knows nothing about science because Islam is ahead of science. How do you expect Islam to know about something that came after it. Islam is the genius who became professor over 1400years while your science is the older dullard who just graduated from kindergarten after close o 2000years of its existence.

When Quran was talking about Big Bang theory 1400years ago, where was your science?

When Quran was talking about embryo and it’s formation 1400years ago, where was your science?

When Quran was talking about the universe’s continuous expansion 1400years ago, where was your science?

When Quran was talking about Iron being the most important element and how it comes from the rain 1400years ago, where was your science?

Your science is too dull to understand Islam and the Quran. Let your science wait for another 1400years maybe it will understand that statement too.

Bye.

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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by TheOutlaw: 8:40pm On Feb 14, 2020
I brought Ibn Abbass Tafseer of the koran.. I believe Ibn Abbass who was annointed by muhammad is a far greater authority on the koran than you can ever be.


Debaiz:


I’m not asking you to believe me. In fact I don’t believe either you or ibn abass. I only believe the Quran and the prophet himself. Anyone else, I don’t care.

Bring Quran citation or what ever you’re saying is nonsense. That what any Muslim would ask for.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Debaiz: 10:10pm On Feb 14, 2020
TheOutlaw:
I brought Ibn Abbass Tafseer of the koran.. I believe Ibn Abbass who was annointed by muhammad is a far greater authority on the koran than you can ever be.



Whatever rocks your boat.

Even if you and I choose to believe Ibn Abass, how am I sure the quote you brought is not forged. Even Muhammeds hadiths were forged by rogues let alone Ibn abass.

The only book that has never been forged and will never be forged is the Quran. Bring the verse of the Quran that Ibn Abass was “talking about” that’s all I ask.

The only human that can talk and I won’t have to check for confirmation is the prophet himself. Not you, not Ibn Abass.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Solorrman3310: 12:26am On Feb 15, 2020
lekkxydinho:
I was born a muslim, but science has (with proofs) rendered all these things useless. Stop disturbing our valentine abeg
Just consider urself pagan because a Muslim do not rebuke anything said by the Quran. If u were born Muslim them am sorry u are now worse than Christianity because u automatically become a pagan,and it's not surprising for me because only Yoruba said Muslim can rebuke the Quran i didn't mean to include the whole tribe because there are many righteous ones that strictly follow the Quran infact there are those that follow the Quran more than the northerners but there are those that claimed being Muslims but knows nothing but dancing and celebration with twerking buttocks in Yoruba. If u want to become Muslim again it's never too late since u are still alive,u have immediately repent and plead Allah to forgive u promising never to do such a thing again ever in the future or rather wait and forget repentance to receive what u sow when u get back to ur creator. I know u will be very sad with me not knowing i only say what i said urging u to be a good Muslim and earn a reward hereafter but u also have a choice in the other hand,u can insult me,curse my relatives and laugh it but remember that there is a day that u and i would witness the truth or false of what i Said. Islam do not force any one to be a Muslim it only suggested u and warn u to abide by what God said u should do and desist from other things,though God forgives all crimes with the exception of shirk associating partner or choosing other gods beside him,that he promise not to forgive ever and mind u the chance for us to repent is only when alive,u can do a mistake with only a comment comprising of 2 lines but meet with penalty of hell not for 90 years,not for trillion years but forever and ever without known end i strongly urge u reconsider what i Said or if u want discard it and continue because it's not my body that Allah will burn because of ur sin.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Solorrman3310: 12:31am On Feb 15, 2020
Gentlemanforyou:


Have you seen a Christian group take responsibility for terrors ?
Was bush and Hitler Muslims ? Do u think Jesus would do what Trump does in the middle East ? If Christian do not engaged in terror that means they are not Christian because the above passage u rebuked was undoubtedly gotten from Bible and if u choose to not follow what Bible commanded then u are not a Christian ,if u are not Christian then keep shut because the above passage talks to abiding Christians.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Solorrman3310: 12:52am On Feb 15, 2020
TheOutlaw:
Because my LORD is a LORD of justice not a god of sex like allah.

God killed all the Israelite men and Baal Peor women who were committing whoredom and spared the lives of those who kept themselves chaste. What is wrong with that?

Stop comparing our LORD with your Sex Award Winner (SAW) grin


What God are u talking about,let me give u an answer that no one can throw away . Christianity was never a religion,it was a cult ,Jesus Christ can never be a God no matter what because his featured disqualified him to be God. May be u dnt know that Jesus Christ was the only guy attributed to be God in history of mankind to have come with fully functional carry-go follow-come penix and anus,Jesus was visiting toilet because he eats while almighty God do not eat he is above degradation of any guise. Jesus do not come in to the world flying in the sky or floating on clouds in case u dnt know of course he was the messiah even in Islam he had no father,he possessed lot of miracles as he could raise a the death with God permission but that doesn't throw away the fact that he came through vagiiina,do u hear me ? I said touching vagiina and it's only a fool would believe God came that way,also it's only an insane incredible,infamous orangutan would accept a God can cry,eat,have penix and anus,visit toilet to urinate and shiit. I challenge any Christianity this platform to say i lied,pls do tell me it's a lie Jesus do not have such a shameful things . U are ashame to even remember without uttering a damn word out of ur mouth that ur mother has vagiina,she also has anus,and that she use to go to toilet to shiit but here u admitted that somebody with such a characteristics can be a God. U have to be busy unknotting these mess than insulting another religion because u have no courage to even insult Indians that have abt 3 million God's because atleast they are more than u regarding they had to accept their idols do not go to toilet,so if u dnt have a religion that means u have no place around the cabinet of those that criticize each other's god.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Solorrman3310: 12:53am On Feb 15, 2020
ContractKiller:
No reasonable intelligent person will take
Islam seriously on matters of science. Islam is as knowledgeable about science as a pig knows about hygiene.

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What God are u talking about,let me give u an answer that no one can throw away . Christianity was never a religion,it was a cult ,Jesus Christ can never be a God no matter what because his featured disqualified him to be God. May be u dnt know that Jesus Christ was the only guy attributed to be God in history of mankind to have come with fully functional carry-go follow-come penix and anus,Jesus was visiting toilet because he eats while almighty God do not eat he is above degradation of any guise. Jesus do not come in to the world flying in the sky or floating on clouds in case u dnt know of course he was the messiah even in Islam he had no father,he possessed lot of miracles as he could raise a the death with God permission but that doesn't throw away the fact that he came through vagiiina,do u hear me ? I said touching vagiina and it's only a fool would believe God came that way,also it's only an insane incredible,infamous orangutan would accept a God can cry,eat,have penix and anus,visit toilet to urinate and shiit. I challenge any Christianity this platform to say i lied,pls do tell me it's a lie Jesus do not have such a shameful things . U are ashame to even remember without uttering a damn word out of ur mouth that ur mother has vagiina,she also has anus,and that she use to go to toilet to shiit but here u admitted that somebody with such a characteristics can be a God. U have to be busy unknotting these mess than insulting another religion because u have no courage to even insult Indians that have abt 3 million God's because atleast they are more than u regarding they had to accept their idols do not go to toilet,so if u dnt have a religion that means u have no place around the cabinet of those that criticize each other's god.
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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by lekkxydinho: 1:40am On Feb 15, 2020
Solorrman3310:
Just consider urself pagan because a Muslim do not rebuke anything said by the Quran. If u were born Muslim them am sorry u are now worse than Christianity because u automatically become a pagan,and it's not surprising for me because only Yoruba said Muslim can rebuke the Quran i didn't mean to include the whole tribe because there are many righteous ones that strictly follow the Quran infact there are those that follow the Quran more than the northerners but there are those that claimed being Muslims but knows nothing but dancing and celebration with twerking buttocks in Yoruba. If u want to become Muslim again it's never too late since u are still alive,u have immediately repent and plead Allah to forgive u promising never to do such a thing again ever in the future or rather wait and forget repentance to receive what u sow when u get back to ur creator.
there was a time when dis would av worked on me, but my brain has outgrown that brainwashing tactics.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Gentlemanforyou: 3:58am On Feb 15, 2020
Solorrman3310:
Was bush and Hitler Muslims ? Do u think Jesus would do what Trump does in the middle East ? If Christian do not engaged in terror that means they are not Christian because the above passage u rebuked was undoubtedly gotten from Bible and if u choose to not follow what Bible commanded then u are not a Christian ,if u are not Christian then keep shut because the above passage talks to abiding Christians.



Now I see you all think the same way as the other people who kill and shout Allah akhbar thinks
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by ContractKiller: 7:55am On Feb 15, 2020
Please stop embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. You sound as stupid as that well known idiot and liar called Zakir Naik.

The embryology mentioned in the Quran was copied from the writings of Galen who live almost 700 years before muhammad was born. In fact muhammad copied Galen's embryology word for word in the koran:


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The koran doesn't mention the Big Bang Theory anywhere. It is muslims who are reading that theory into the koran. In fact the koran doesn't even know how the world was created.


Debaiz:


Yes you’re right Islam knows nothing about science because Islam is ahead of science. How do you expect Islam to know about something that came after it. Islam is the genius who became professor over 1400years while your science is the older dullard who just graduated from kindergarten after close o 2000years of its existence.

When Quran was talking about Big Bang theory 1400years ago, where was your science?

When Quran was talking about embryo and it’s formation 1400years ago, where was your science?

When Quran was talking about the universe’s continuous expansion 1400years ago, where was your science?

When Quran was talking about Iron being the most important element and how it comes from the rain 1400years ago, where was your science?

Your science is too dull to understand Islam and the Quran. Let your science wait for another 1400years maybe it will understand that statement too.

Bye.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Debaiz: 7:58am On Feb 15, 2020
ContractKiller:
Please stop embarrassing yourself with this nonsense. You sound as stupid as that well known idiot and liar called Zakir Naik.

The embryology mentioned in the Quran was copied from the writings of Galen who live almost 700 years before muhammad was born. In fact muhammad copied Galen's embryology word for word in the koran:


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Aren’t you the stupid idiot.

You provided the Quran part but where’s is the one written by Galen.

You’re a fool.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by ContractKiller: 8:04am On Feb 15, 2020
I'm coming. Let me finish with what I started grin

It's funny that you believe the writer of the koran who thinks that the sun sets in a pool of water, could know anything about the Big Bang theory.


In fact the author of the koran was so confused that at first he said the earth was created before heaven [Surah 2:29],

Then later he said heaven was created before the earth [Surah 79:27-30].

Debaiz:


Aren’t you the stupid idiot.

You provided the Quran part but where’s is the one written by Galen.

You’re a fool.
Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by ContractKiller: 8:07am On Feb 15, 2020
Debaiz:


Aren’t you the stupid idiot.

You provided the Quran part but where’s is the one written by Galen.

You’re a fool.

Here is how your prophet plagiarised the writings of Galen.

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Re: The Universe Came Into Existence After Not Existing by Debaiz: 9:33am On Feb 15, 2020
ContractKiller:


Here is how your prophet plagiarised the writings of Galen.

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This is where you got your lies from.

Below trying to say Mohammed copies from Galen’s works.

As a matter of fact the Quran was not compiled in the time of Mohammed. So how could they be writing it down during the time of the prophet.

Your cheap attempt to malign the book is clear for anyone to see. Trying to say the words were that of the companion and not his revelation.

They acknowledged that there was a revelation but they are trying to tell us that the revelation was wrongly inscribed but the spirit that revealed it didn’t see the error in other to correct it. If that makes sense to you then you should be in a ward.

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