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spendoon:
I have heard alot of people especially the ipob saying when Nigeria disintegrate the north will suffer, but that's a pure lie because even during the first republic the north wasn't suffering inshort it was even the southeast the were suffering from the structure of the first republic, the average northerners don't benefit shit from Nigeria except the elites, with or without Nigeria life is still the same to the common northerners why?
Nigeria is currently the world poverty capital with most credit going to the north, so how has Nigeria helped the suffering northerners. If Nigeria spilts like every other region the north will progress because they will certainly control their population because they will no longer be competing for domince of power as some say they do, just like other regions they will only select competent leaders without thinking if his my tribe or religion, their leaders will have no choice but to improve the human resources of the region in order to catchup with other competing regions of former Nigeria, and of all if Nigeria splits they will certainly go back to agriculture which was what they were relying on in the first republic before the discovery of oil all they have to do is reach some agreement with the south west or south south to enable them use their ports.

If core northerners are left in a country of their own, Shiites and Sunnis will go to war... Fulanis, Hausas & Kanuris will fight each other for domination of the country...
Izalas, Darikas, Tijjaniyas and other sects of Islam will be on each other's throats.
They will be like Somalia.

sebali:
The North would suffer, as all the abokis crowding our streets down south for mania Jobs would be forced back to the North, thus doubling the poverty rate, which in turn would triple the crime rate that is already very high.
Also the Islamic fanatics would clamp down on the Christian, increasing the instability of the region.
Finally without free oil money, and poor social life in most northern state and almost Zero human capacity up north, most Elites would become commoners and the remaining Elites would have to run for their lives.

There will be no Christians in a Core-northern Nigeria country cos all the Christians in the core-north will relocate to the Middlebelt.

Anyone who thinks Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Gongola & Benue people will join Hausa fulanis to form one country must be dreaming.

spendoon:
The fulani can never dominate the hausa people the population margin is to wide

Of course they can and they will, they are already doing it and will continue.
Islam has blinded the eyes of Hausa people to the extent of no going back.

spendoon:
Because the have more similarities unlike the ones down south

What do you mean they have more similarities?

Southern Kaduna people are in the Northwest, Plateau people are in the North Central while Taraba are in the North-east, Can you tell me what a Kataf, Berom or Jukun man shares in common with a Hausa, Fulani or Kanuri man?

Better count us out of your madness.

Learn to differentiate between the Core-north and the Middlebelt, same way you differentiate Southerners.

spendoon:
The tribalism in the north is not as terrible as the one in the south

Tribalism is worse in the north because it leads to killings unlike in the south.

Supan:
Which North? fulani have been using the military to suppress the minorities in the so-called north and they have been bleating like goats. Their opportunity to strike back is coming, sooner than u imagine.
TY Danjuma has cried to the US, EU etc. Kaduna South christians are always in constant rumble with its north brother. Beroms will always be ready to eat them again. By the time Ombatse will give u their phase 2 again, You all will be on a race to Funtua Jalon.

Thank you very much for telling that ignoramus Spendoon the truth.

I'm happy that Southerners are now getting wiser and understanding the differences of the so called North.

The truth is that Yorubas, Igbos & Niger Deltans stand a far better chance living in one country in peace than Core-northerns and Middlebelters.

There are many towns and entire LGAs where Hausa fulanis and muslims cannot sleep and wake up in Taraba, Adamawa, Plateau, Southern Kaduna and Southern Bauchi. ..... But Southerners can live peacefully anywhere within the entire South.

Putting the ethnic groups of Plateau, Gongola & Southern Kaduna in one country with Hausa fulanis is worse than putting Iranians and Israelis in one country...

XANDERBOY85:
On the bolded: Rwanda, Botswana and Ethiopia are all landlocked countries and are presently doing better socially and economically than countries like Nigeria and Somalia that have access to the sea!

Also, those giving you access to the sea can only dictate the terms of the association if they’re the only option! If a landlocked country is contiguous with more than one country with sea access, it then becomes the ‘beautiful bride’ that will be courted to do business with! Ethiopia had the option of choosing either Eritrea or Djibouti and chose the latter!

Nigeria is better than both Ethiopia and Rwanda while Botswana is a tiny country of 2m people.

The north core north without the fertile guinea Savannah of central Nigeria tribe, crude oil of niger delta and general manpower of southerners will be a disaster. The north best thing for the north is to keep Nigeria has one but their greed may soon turn their allies in the south against them.

Nowenuse:
Thank you very much for telling that ignoramus Spendoon the truth.

I'm happy that Southerners are now getting wiser and understanding the differences of the most led ire th.

The truth is that Yorubas, Igbos & Niger Deltans stand a far better chance of living in one country in peace than Core-northern and Middlebelters.

There are many towns and entire LGAs where Hausa Fulanis and Muslims cannot sleep and wake up in Taraba, Adamawa, Plateau, Southern Kaduna and Southern Bauchi. ..... But Southerners can live peacefully anywhere within the entire South.

Putting the ethnic groups of Plateau, Gongola & Southern Kaduna in one country with Hausa Fulanis is worse than putting Iranians and Israelis in one country...

Most of the core northerners on this platform always like to mischievously mask their anxiety with the fact that northern minority will be subdued or forced to remain in the same country with them in the event that Nigeria disintegrates. What they fail to realise is that they have burned too many bridges to get the trust of these people

Nowenuse:
Tribalism is worse in the north because it leads to killings unlike in the south.

You want to compare a region where you can easily be killed for being the wrong tribe or religion to another where people only criticise themselves on social media?

spendoon:
I have heard alot of people especially the ipob saying when Nigeria disintegrate the north will suffer, but that's a pure lie because even during the first republic the north wasn't suffering inshort it was even the southeast the were suffering from the structure of the first republic, the average northerners don't benefit shit from Nigeria except the elites, with or without Nigeria life is still the same to the common northerners why?
Nigeria is currently the world poverty capital with most credit going to the north, so how has Nigeria helped the suffering northerners. If Nigeria spilts like every other region the north will progress because they will certainly control their population because they will no longer be competing for domince of power as some say they do, just like other regions they will only select competent leaders without thinking if his my tribe or religion, their leaders will have no choice but to improve the human resources of the region in order to catchup with other competing regions of former Nigeria, and of all if Nigeria splits they will certainly go back to agriculture which was what they were relying on in the first republic before the discovery of oil all they have to do is reach some agreement with the south west or south south to enable them use their ports.

The north has marginalised the north central/middle belt tribes who have majority of the agricultural output in the north, there is no way the middle belt would chose to go with the core North if the choice of disintegration comes along.

Another huge problem facing the north is the fact that 70% of its population are impoverished stack illiterates. Where Do you think the bandits, the kidnappers, fulani heardmens, Bokoharam, iswap and ansaru get their members? The huge flock of illiterates and impoverished northerners fill their ranks.
The only buffer the north currently has from all this is the south, the money and manpower from the south is pampering the cracks in the north and when Nigeria divides, Can the north alone survive with this groups mentioned above? The answer is No.
You don't need to look far to know the future awaiting the north, Niger Republic is a prime example of what the north would become minus the educated population of Niger plus the Bokoharam, Kidnapers, bandits of the North.

The North is stuck between a rock and a hard place. One other problem the north faces is religion, Islam is not a progressive religion ( Before you mention Suadi or Dubai) understand that those people have an abundant of mineral resources, before the oil the Middle East was a desert filled wit illiterates. The north ended up with the wrong foreign religion thanks to the terrorism of Dan-fodio.

Either way, the North is caught between a rock and a hard place

myobjective:
Most of the core northerners on this platform always like to mischievously mask their anxiety with the fact that northern minority will be subdued or forced to remain in the same country with them in the event that Nigeria disintegrates. What they fail to realise is that they have burned too many bridges to get the trust of these people

Any Hausa fulani that think they can easily subdue the over 30 million Christians of the north is just a very big mugu. How will it happen? We can never even agree to join them in one country.

Afrokan:
The north has marginalised the north central/middle belt tribes who have majority of the agricultural output in the north, there is no way the middle belt would chose to go with the core North if the choice of disintegration comes along.

Another huge problem facing the north is the fact that 70% of its population are impoverished stack illiterates. Where Do you think the bandits, the kidnappers, fulani heardmens, Bokoharam, iswap and ansaru get their members? The huge flock of illiterates and impoverished northerners fill their ranks.
The only buffer the north currently has from all this is the south, the money and manpower from the south is pampering the cracks in the north and when Nigeria divides, Can the north alone survive with this groups mentioned above? The answer is No.
You don't need to look far to know the future awaiting the north, Niger Republic is a prime example of what the north would become minus the educated population of Niger plus the Bokoharam, Kidnapers, bandits of the North.

The North is stuck between a rock and a hard place. One other problem the north faces is religion, Islam is not a progressive religion ( Before you mention Suadi or Dubai) understand that those people have an abundant of mineral resources, before the oil the Middle East was a desert filled wit illiterates. The north ended up with the wrong foreign religion thanks to the terrorism of Dan-fodio.

Either way, the North is caught between a rock and a hard place

Thank you very much. Most of the crop produces and fertile land in the north comes from Middlebelt and Northern minorities areas and there is no way we can join Hausa fulanis in one country.... That would be like a repitition of Sudan.

You made a very big mistake to say 70% of Hausa fulanis are impoverished illiterates... It is more like 85-90%!

Kano is the most educated and wealthy part of the core north and 70% of it's people are illiterates. Places like Sokoto, Zamfara & Katsina are 90% illiterate!

Core-northern Nigeria can never be as good as Niger republic because the elites of Niger republic are secular in nature and support secularism cos they were colonised by France under the direct rule system where they were exposed to French Western culture.
Niger republic has a secular constitution... Have u ever heard of Sharia law there or Islamic militant groups?

Haba, Core-northern Nigeria will be like Somalia.

Nowenuse:
Any Hausa fulani that think they can easily subdue the over 30 million Christians of the north is just a very big mugu. How will it happen? We can never even agree to join them in one country.



Thank you very much. Most of the crop produces and fertile land in the north comes from Middlebelt and Northern minorities areas and there is no way we can join Hausa fulanis in one country.... That would be like a repitition of Sudan.

You made a very big mistake to say 70% of Hausa fulanis are impoverished illiterates... It is more like 85-90%!

Kano is the most educated and wealthy part of the core north and 70% of it's people are illiterates. Places like Sokoto, Zamfara & Katsina are 90% illiterate!

Core-northern Nigeria can never be as good as Niger republic because the elites of Niger republic are secular in nature and support secularism cos they were colonised by France under the direct rule system where they were exposed to French Western culture.
Niger republic has a secular constitution... Have u ever heard of Sharia law there or Islamic militant groups?

Haba, Core-northern Nigeria will be like Somalia.

I pity for the north.

Afrokan:
The north has marginalised the north central/middle belt tribes who have majority of the agricultural output in the north, there is no way the middle belt would chose to go with the core North if the choice of disintegration comes along.

Another huge problem facing the north is the fact that 70% of its population are impoverished stack illiterates. Where Do you think the bandits, the kidnappers, fulani heardmens, Bokoharam, iswap and ansaru get their members? The huge flock of illiterates and impoverished northerners fill their ranks.
The only buffer the north currently has from all this is the south, the money and manpower from the south is pampering the cracks in the north and when Nigeria divides, Can the north alone survive with this groups mentioned above? The answer is No.
You don't need to look far to know the future awaiting the north, Niger Republic is a prime example of what the north would become minus the educated population of Niger plus the Bokoharam, Kidnapers, bandits of the North.

The North is stuck between a rock and a hard place. One other problem the north faces is religion, Islam is not a progressive religion ( Before you mention Suadi or Dubai) understand that those people have an abundant of mineral resources, before the oil the Middle East was a desert filled wit illiterates. The north ended up with the wrong foreign religion thanks to the terrorism of Dan-fodio.

Either way, the North is caught between a rock and a hard place

Stop compereing Niger republic and northern Nigeria, niger republic is a desert region suffering from drought which isn't the same with northern Nigeria and fyi the north has fertile land farming is what they do fir a living if you doubt me go and check your map very well

Nowenuse:
Any Hausa fulani that think they can easily subdue the over 30 million Christians of the north is just a very big mugu. How will it happen? We can never even agree to join them in one country.



Thank you very much. Most of the crop produces and fertile land in the north comes from Middlebelt and Northern minorities areas and there is no way we can join Hausa fulanis in one country.... That would be like a repitition of Sudan.

You made a very big mistake to say 70% of Hausa fulanis are impoverished illiterates... It is more like 85-90%!

Kano is the most educated and wealthy part of the core north and 70% of it's people are illiterates. Places like Sokoto, Zamfara & Katsina are 90% illiterate!

Core-northern Nigeria can never be as good as Niger republic because the elites of Niger republic are secular in nature and support secularism cos they were colonised by France under the direct rule system where they were exposed to French Western culture.
Niger republic has a secular constitution... Have u ever heard of Sharia law there or Islamic militant groups?

Haba, Core-northern Nigeria will be like Somalia.

Compereing Niger republic and northern Nigeria is out of the picture, niger republic is a desert region suffering from drought

spendoon:
Stop compereing Niger republic and northern Nigeria, niger republic is a desert region suffering from drought which isn't the same with northern Nigeria and fyi the north has fertile land farming is what they do fir a living if you doubt me go and check your map very well

the North-central region of Nigeria has fertile land, the Northcentral region of Nigeria consist of tribes which the north as been marginalizing for decades, The north-central region as good literacy rate, good poverty rate and all sorts of positive indices.

Now lets talk about the Core north ( north-west and northeast) , The core north is poor, poor is an understatement . The core north is dominated by Hausa-Fulani tribe and has a high illiteracy rate, high poverty rate, high infant morality rate, desert encroachment and all sorts of negative indices. The core north is suffering from Bokoharam, bandits, iswap, kidnapers, ansaru, almajir, polio etc.

By all measurable standards, NIger republic is better than the north. They have good litracy rate, they don't suffer from the number of ills afflicting the north.

Afrokan:
the North-central region of Nigeria has fertile land, the Northcentral region of Nigeria consist of tribes which the north as been marginalizing for decades, The north-central region as good literacy rate, good poverty rate and all sorts of positive indices.

Now lets talk about the Core north ( north-west and northeast) , The core north is poor, poor is an understatement . The core north is dominated by Hausa-Fulani tribe and has a high illiteracy rate, high poverty rate, high infant morality rate, desert encroachment and all sorts of negative indices. The core north is suffering from Bokoharam, bandits, iswap, kidnapers, ansaru, almajir, polio etc.

By all measurable standards, NIger republic is better than the north. They have good litracy rate, they don't suffer from the number of ills afflicting the north.

See i am busy now but i will drop some facts for you later

Nowenuse:
If core northerners are left in a country of their own, Shiites and Sunnis will go to war... Fulanis, Hausas & Kanuris will fight each other for domination of the country...
Izalas, Darikas, Tijjaniyas and other sects of Islam will be on each other's throats.
They will be like Somalia.

At first you sounded like you knew alot about the north but with what you typed you just proved otherwise, i will tell you why later because am currently busy

spendoon:
See i am busy now but i will drop some facts for you later

Okay sir

Afrokan:
Okay sir

Please tell me the northern land isnt fertile now?
Check the second image, remain that other guy saying there will be civil him own na long story thats why i never get him time

Dedetwo:
Above is pure product of figment of imagination. It is an imagination borne out of ignorance. I honestly believe that IPOB does not waste time on useless thoughts about the suffering of the north.

You sound mentally unsound

Nowenuse:
There will be no Christians in a Core-northern Nigeria country cos all the Christians in the core-north will relocate to the Middlebelt.

Anyone who thinks Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Gongola & Benue people will join Hausa fulanis to form one country must be dreaming.

Continue consoling yourself. You must go with them to Arewastan.

Nowenuse:
If core northerners are left in a country of their own, Shiites and Sunnis will go to war... Fulanis, Hausas & Kanuris will fight each other for domination of the country...
Izalas, Darikas, Tijjaniyas and other sects of Islam will be on each other's throats.
They will be like Somalia.

Nonsense why will kanuris and hausas go to war did they go to war in Niger republic?
Secondly you said izalasa, darikas will be on each other's throats, for what reason are you sick? the only enemies are shite and they have little population.
Those this nonsense even makes sense to you? So if hausa,kanuris and fulanis are fighting each, so a hausa izala man that is fighting fulani man will now go back and fight his hausa brother because he his darika or a fulani darika that is fighting a hausa man for power will now go back and fight his brother because his izala ahbi.
Please use common sense and logics when you are queoting me?