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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN....

Not all pastors are fake.
Not all pastors depend on tithes and offerings for survival.
Not all pastors place price tags on counselling
Not all Men of God are into ministry for money
Not all Men of God take advantage of gullible people
Not all Men of God stage miracles
Not all Men of God sexually molest women
Not all Men of God are proud
Not all of Pastors are calous
Not all prophets seek power from the devil
Not all shepherds lack the fear of God
Not all Apostles are repackaged herbalists
Not all pastors are denominational marketers
Not all pastors seek fame by all means

God called those He called, those He called are aware He called them, those that weren't called are equally aware they weren't called.

Stop criticizing all pastors, prophets and co by calling them all manner of derogatory names.

There are fake pastors just like there are fake engineers, quack doctors, quack nurses, mechanics, farmers, businessmen, Carpenters, teachers, bankers e.t.c

There are fake church members too!

Whatever is authentic will always have a counterfeit. Even spiritual assignments aren't exempted.

If you've been a victim of one of those misrepresenting spiritual offices, all I can say to you is Sorry. God will fight for you.

But please don't spread your anger, animosity or negative perception of Pastors around.

Don't let the innocent ones pay for the sins of the offenders!

Pick your Bible, read, study, and depend on the Holy Spirit for direction.

Ask God for answers to your prayers if you feel you can't trust any man of God anymore. Instead of recruiting people into your school of acrimony due to your experience.

In your field of endeavour, there are fake people too, how would you feel if you're numbered among the plastic ones?

If you don't want to go to church, don't
If you don't want to tithe, don't
If you don't want to seek counsel, don't
If you don't believe in miracles, fine!

It's your life and your opinion. Just don't use it as a stumbling block for others.

Peradventure you've been deceived, next time, make sure you're led by God to meet any man of God, before you go in search of solution where they'll only compound your problems for you.

Do that and you'd be free, but please let Genuine pastors off the hook!

Identify the cosmetic pastors, hand them over to God or in your own capacity, deal with them appropriately!

Let's stop the widespread hatred for pastors Biko!�� Lest, God's wrath descends on us.

God is the same yesterday, today and Forever Heb 13:8

Remember the experience of korah, Dathan and Abiram in the Bible?

The earth is still hungry.

Let's avoid a reoccurrence, while we can!

God bless all Genuine pastors!

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If I am a new convert, how do I know a false pastor?

Acehart:
If I am a new convert, how do I know a false pastor?

The title "PASTOR" is the sign!

Jesus said none of his own followers should bear religious titles {Matthew 23:8} so anytime someone approach you and say i'm Pastor, Apostle, Evangelist, Dr, Reverend or any other title to input fear of scrutiny in your heart, know immediately that you're standing in front of a WOLF IN SHEEP CLOTHING! Matthew 7:15

Maximus69:
The title "PASTOR" is the sign!

Jesus said none of his own followers should bear religious titles {Matthew 23:8} so anytime someone approach you and say i'm Pastor, Apostle, Evangelist, Dr, Reverend or any other title to input fear of scrutiny in your heart, know immediately that you're standing in front of a WOLF IN SHEEP CLOTHING! Matthew 7:15

What about when I step into a church for the first time, how do I recognize that the person on the pulpit isn’t a true pastor?

Lilimax:
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN....

Not all pastors are fake.
Not all pastors depend on tithes and offerings for survival.
Not all pastors place price tags on counselling
Not all Men of God are into ministry for money
Not all Men of God take advantage of gullible people
Not all Men of God stage miracles
Not all Men of God sexually molest women
Not all Men of God are proud
Not all of Pastors are calous
Not all prophets seek power from the devil
Not all shepherds lack the fear of God
Not all Apostles are repackaged herbalists
Not all pastors are denominational marketers
Not all pastors seek fame by all means

God called those He called, those He called are aware He called them, those that weren't called are equally aware they weren't called.

Stop criticizing all pastors, prophets and co by calling them all manner of derogatory names.

There are fake pastors just like there are fake engineers, quack doctors, quack nurses, mechanics, farmers, businessmen, Carpenters, teachers, bankers e.t.c

There are fake church members too!

Whatever is authentic will always have a counterfeit. Even spiritual assignments aren't exempted.

If you've been a victim of one of those misrepresenting spiritual offices, all I can say to you is Sorry. God will fight for you.

But please don't spread your anger, animosity or negative perception of Pastors around.

Don't let the innocent ones pay for the sins of the offenders!

Pick your Bible, read, study, and depend on the Holy Spirit for direction.

Ask God for answers to your prayers if you feel you can't trust any man of God anymore. Instead of recruiting people into your school of acrimony due to your experience.

In your field of endeavour, there are fake people too, how would you feel if you're numbered among the plastic ones?

If you don't want to go to church, don't
If you don't want to tithe, don't
If you don't want to seek counsel, don't
If you don't believe in miracles, fine!

It's your life and your opinion. Just don't use it as a stumbling block for others.

Peradventure you've been deceived, next time, make sure you're led by God to meet any man of God, before you go in search of solution where they'll only compound your problems for you.

Do that and you'd be free, but please let Genuine pastors off the hook!

Identify the cosmetic pastors, hand them over to God or in your own capacity, deal with them appropriately!

Let's stop the widespread hatred for pastors Biko!�� Lest, God's wrath descends on us.

God is the same yesterday, today and Forever Heb 13:8

Remember the experience of korah, Dathan and Abiram in the Bible?

The earth is still hungry.

Let's avoid a reoccurrence, while we can!

God bless all Genuine pastors!

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Pastors are only human. They are tempted everyday to steal, cheat, womanize, lie, etc.

While some succumb, others overcome. Sadly, when pastors fall to sin like adultery, it becomes an open scandal and everyone's tongue begins to wag.

If the devil could tempt Jesus, why won't he tempt pastors?

Many of the great pastors we follow like Adeboye, oyedepo, suleman, etc all face temptations daily but you won't know.

The only person we should worship is Jesus Christ not any pastor. Pastors are just human and are liable to sin.

God bless you richly for this piece sir.

I wish this gets to front page.

And for the brother asking about how to know what is false and true; Try asking God for the spirit of discernment - 1 Corinthians 12:10.

Discerning spirit is a feature of the holy spirit that helps us tell between what is good and evil. It works for everything and everyone, including the question you are asking sir.

Shalom.

Acehart:
What about when I step into a church for the first time, how do I recognize that the person on the pulpit isn’t a true pastor?

Jesus never expected you to come into the gathering of his followers without someone inviting you! Matthew 10:3-15 compare to Romans 10:11-15

So the arrangement is that one of his true followers will come to pay you a visit in your home, he will preach to you and teach you what Jesus taught the group, then after you might have been convinced of what you heard and received, you'll like to join them in worship and that's when you'll be invited into their midst!

What people are practicing today is not Christianity but paganism, pagans only display their idols without any form of preaching and teaching that appeals to the heart, once you're interested in their formation of worshp, you can just pick up your clothes and join them. That's not the way with Christianity, someone must PREACH to you and TEACH you all the commandments (rules) guiding Christians as a family before you're invited into our midst!
As for Pastors, every Christian in our organization is working as a pastor so it's not a title to be attached to our name, in our gathering we are all brothers and sisters, you too can qualify to encourage others with the gift of God in you if you're willing to allow God's holy spirit to work in you!

Maximus69:
Jesus never expected you to come into the gathering of his followers without someone inviting you! Matthew 10:3-15 compare to Romans 10:11-15

So the arrangement is that one of his true followers will come to pay you a visit in your home, he will preach to you and teach you what Jesus taught the group, then after you might have been convinced of what you heard and received, you'll like to join them in worship and that's when you'll be invited into their midst!

What people are practicing today is not Christianity but paganism, pagans only display their idols without any form of preaching and teaching that appeals to the heart, once you're interested in their formation of worshp, you can just pick up your clothes and join them. That's not the way with Christianity, someone must PREACH to you and TEACH you all the commandments (rules) guiding Christians as a family before you're invited into our midst!
As for Pastors, every Christian in our organization is working as a pastor so it's not a title to be attached to our name, in our gathering we are all brothers and sisters, you too can qualify to encourage others with the gift of God in you if you're willing to allow God's holy spirit to work in you!

I like your responses but you haven’t answered my specific question. Your answer is perfect for the ideal case but many of us enter into a church without an invitation; what should guide us to know a false pastor upon my visit?

MFMRevivalist:
God bless you richly for this piece sir.

I wish this gets to front page.

And for the brother asking about how to know what is false and true; Try asking God for the spirit of discernment - 1 Corinthians 12:10.

Discerning spirit is a feature of the holy spirit that helps us tell between what is good and evil. It works for everything and everyone, including the question you are asking sir.

Shalom.

What is the spirit of discernment? Does a new convert have the full mastery of such a spirit?

Acehart:
I like your responses but you haven’t answered my specific question. Your answer is perfect for the ideal case but many of us enter into a church without an invitation; what should guide us to know a false pastor upon my visit?

There is nothing like false Pastor amongst the true Christians!

Because we all preach, teach and do exactly what Jesus commanded us to do, so in our midst it's impossible for you to identify anyone as a false Pastor.
To help you understand what i'm saying, think of the first century when Jesus walked the earth. He made a lot of explanations to help his listeners know that the Jewish religious system and their teachers have gone off course, if you carefully read through his comments, you'll notice that most of the religions claiming Christians around you are Pharisees and Saddusees in disguise, but they're now claiming Christians!
But what happens if you enter into the midst of Jesus' followers?
How can you identify Judas Iscariot as a traitor?
Remember Jesus is the Lord and Saviour nobody comes to our God and father without Jesus, but it's this same Jesus who sent his followers out to go, preach and teach people, and Judas Iscariot is one of the prominent 12 closest confidants of Jesus!
Of course you can't discern him as false amongst the others because he's preaching and teaching what Jesus commanded the group, but he's not putting it to good use for himself! Matthew 7:24-27

Jesus only teach us how to identify false religion and those practicing it, but as for the false brothers amongst his own people, you can't know them, because they are following all the protocol given by Jesus, therefore if you follow them of course they'll lead you to Jesus' group where you'll gain salvation, but since they themselves aren't keeping Jesus' teachings at heart for their own benefit, they'll perish, because God only approves those doing what Jesus taught not those hearing or teaching it! James 1:22

Acehart:
If I am a new convert, how do I know a false pastor?

the only way to know is to read and understand the bible first, then compare!
When you do that, you will discover that virtually all pastors in Nigeria are false, all of them.

paxonel:
the only way to know is to read and understand the bible first, then compare!
When you do that, you will discover that virtually all pastors in Nigeria are false, all of them.

The first nation to be informed about God is Israel, yet Jesus SENT CHRISTIANS TO GO AND TEACH THEM GOD'S WORD!

WHY?

Because unlike other books the Bible is not a textbook that could be taught by anyone if not sent to do so!

So nobody can read and understand the Bible on his/her own without the Christians coming to preach and teach him what's written in God's word!

paxonel:
the only way to know is to read and understand the bible first, then compare!
When you do that, you will discover that virtually all pastors in Nigeria are false, all of them.

Thanks. But as a new convert, it could take time before I can do the comparison. For the mean time, how can I guard against them?

Acehart:
What about when I step into a church for the first time, how do I recognize that the person on the pulpit isn’t a true pastor?

The major mark of a true man of God is Christ-likeness: not perfect but Christ-like like Paul and other apostles of Jesus. The fact is they are very very few in the world, you will be surprised that almost or even all these popular, rich or big church pastors or founders are not like that. Cos they are not Christlike in the areas of money, popularity, politics and many other areas in their lifestyle. If you do not find a leader who is a good example of Jesus or his apostles, please stay way (Philip. 3:17-19): read the Bible, Obey and pray; seeking God for his Holy Spirit. And God will guide you to join a church if he so will.
May Jesus Bless You.

Acehart:
Thanks. But as a new convert, it could take time before I can do the comparison. For the mean time, how can I guard against them?

there are no other ways to guide against them but to know what is there yourself.

For the mean time you can't escape being deceived by them until you are fully acquainted with your bible.
Except a good government comes in to regulate religion and it activities to curb their negative impacts. But for now, Nigeria is not lucky to have any such good government.

Maximus69:
The first nation to be informed about God is Israel, yet Jesus SENT CHRISTIANS TO GO AND TEACH THEM GOD'S WORD!

WHY?

Because unlike other books the Bible is not a textbook that could be taught by anyone if not sent to do so!

So nobody can read and understand the Bible on his/her own without the Christians coming to preach and teach him what's written in God's word!

you are very right!

And it is very possible that even the teacher does not even know what he is teaching.
In that case, the learner will be learning half truth, thinking that he is learning something from the teacher.
This is the current case of 98 percent Christians in Nigeria today, especially those ones who are very committed to church.

paxonel:
there are no other ways to guide against them but to know what is there yourself.

For the mean time you can't escape being deceived by them until you are fully acquainted with your bible.

Strong words but I am grateful

davidinchrist:
The major mark of a true man of God is Christ-likeness: not perfect but Christ-like like Paul and other apostles of Jesus. The fact is they are very very few in the world, you will be surprised that almost or even all these popular, rich or big church pastors or founders are not like that. Cos they are not Christlike in the areas of money, popularity, politics and many other areas in their lifestyle. If you do not find a leader who is a good example of Jesus or his apostles, please stay way (Philip. 3:17-19): read the Bible, Obey and pray; seeking God for his Holy Spirit. And God will guide you to join a church if he so will.
May Jesus Bless You.

Thanks

Acehart:
What is the spirit of discernment? Does a new convert have the full mastery of such a spirit?

Yes, once you are genuinely born again (which is birth by the spirit). U automatically receive the Holy Spirit and is therefore qualified to start having those features of the spirit once you begin to work towards them. In which The Spirit of discernment is one of them.

Add me up on Facebook at Anthony A. Akhigbe and I can volunteer to personally take u on a daily discipleship classes that will help with All u need, and want to know about ur new faith and for spiritual growth, by God's grace. Becos I may not be able to be seeing and attending to ur questions here quickly.

God bless u sir.

Maximus69:
The title "PASTOR" is the sign!

Jesus said none of his own followers should bear religious titles {Matthew 23:8} so anytime someone approach you and say i'm Pastor, Apostle, Evangelist, Dr, Reverend or any other title to input fear of scrutiny in your heart, know immediately that you're standing in front of a WOLF IN SHEEP CLOTHING! Matthew 7:15

Your answer is not totally correct. You don't identify fake prophets by names rather by the following
1. Their deeds
2. Through the leading of the holy spirit.
In this end time, it will be difficult to identify them because many of them are smart. They are into philanthropic activities now

Acehart:
If I am a new convert, how do I know a false pastor?

It is the same way you know a $100 bill, £50 papernote or ₦1000 banknote from false ones

Acehart:
What about when I step into a church for the first time, how do I recognize that the person on the pulpit isn’t a true pastor?

When you step into an orchard, as in meaning, an enclosed land planted with all sorts of trees, how do you recognise the apple tree from the orange tree and/or pear tree? Use the same basic principle to recognise

Acehart:
Thanks. But as a new convert, it could take time before I can do the comparison. For the mean time, how can I guard against them?

Be alert, be on your guard and be sensitive to the Holy Spirit and Holy Spirit's prompt. Know your Bible everyday more. When you keep yourself pure, you're guarding yourself against them

Acehart:
I like your responses but you haven’t answered my specific question. Your answer is perfect for the ideal case but many of us enter into a church without an invitation; what should guide us to know a false pastor upon my visit?

"See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy
and empty deception, according to the tradition of men,
according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ."
- Colossians 2:8

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit,
but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,
for many false prophets have gone out into the world."
- 1 John 4:1

"Stop judging according to outward appearances;
rather judge according to righteous judgment.""
- John 7:24

"For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up
and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive,
if possible, even God’s chosen ones"
- Matthew 24:24

Aside, the instructive Colossians 2:8, 1 John 4:1, John 7:24 and Matthew 24:24 bible verses, this question, actually has already been addressed above and just under, immediately below next in relation to another similar question

Acehart:
What is the spirit of discernment?

"He gives one person the power to perform miracles, and another the ability to prophesy.
He gives someone else the ability to discern whether a message is from the Spirit of God or from another spirit ...
(i.e. To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits ...)"
- 1 Corinthians 12:10a

The spirit of discernment is one of the spiritual gifts given and manisfested, for the common good of ekklesia, as in meaning, the called out ones, or the church, as it is up-to-date called, lol. 1 Corinthians 12:10a above is easily understood and so I dont think needs explaining

Acehart:
Does a new convert have the full mastery of such a spirit?

First, no, new converts statistically dont neccesarily all have the full mastery of such gift and then, yes, its possible a new convert may right from onset have the full mastery of such gift

Great thread.

Lilimax:
Let's stop the widespread hatred for pastors Biko! Lest, God's wrath descends on us.

God is the same yesterday, today and Forever Heb 13:8

Remember the experience of korah, Dathan and Abiram in the Bible?

The earth is still hungry.

You were making so much sense until you got to this point. You all are so used to fear mongering and fear tactics to make people submit to your wants.

You're unable to convince people factually to do things except you introduce some form of threats. And that's why we call you out. Fear tactics is a well known form of deceit and taking advantage of vulnerable people.

You're not different from the rest of the bunch either. So suck it up. We will continue to call you deceivers out. Including the very successful ones you made this post to defend.