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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Meritocracy: 8:38am On Mar 07, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
I said this when some people were rejoicing about the Kano order. The judge just put himself in trouble. The NJC said since 2016 that courts should stop giving conflicting orders but instead should refer the matter to the original court hearing the case. I just hope whatever Oshiomole paid this man is worth his career.

It take metal to cut metal, how can one useless kangaroo court just suspend a national chairman overnight without fair hearing. Rubbish

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by bkool7(m): 8:39am On Mar 07, 2020
Agboriotejoye:
I said this when some people were rejoicing about the Kano order. The judge just put himself in trouble. The NJC said since 2016 that courts should stop giving conflicting orders but instead should refer the matter to the original court hearing the case. I just hope whatever Oshiomole paid this man is worth his career.

Where was this charge and bail lawyer when a court granted Sowore bail and the DSS rushed him to another judge of the same high court on same charges?
Is it only when it affects corrupt politicians that these ppl take action?

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by 7lives: 8:40am On Mar 07, 2020
solmusdesigns:


stop twisting my words, State High court doesn't have jurisdiction to seat over issues federal agencies were joined in

they just don't get it, that joining federal agency with Oshiomole in that suit, is the loophole that was exploited by the Kano judge, to set aside the Abuja court ruling, had it been Oshiomole alone, the judge in the Kano court wouldn't dare.
When next the misfits in APC wants to buy impeachment, coup and other political shenanigans in court, they should at least remember to contract a good legaluminary, abi dem don forget ni?, that the vice president is a proffessor of law.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Agboriotejoye(m): 8:43am On Mar 07, 2020
bkool7:


Where was this charge and bail lawyer when a court granted Sowore bail and the DSS rushed him to another judge of the same high court on same charges?
Is it only when it affects corrupt politicians that these ppl take action?
I really don't know what you're talking about o
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Agboriotejoye(m): 8:44am On Mar 07, 2020
Meritocracy:


It take metal to cut metal, how can one useless kangaroo court just suspend a national chairman overnight without fair hearing. Rubbish
You may not agree with the judgment but giving a conflicting order is judicial rascality. The judge will need to explain himself to the NJC

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Agboriotejoye(m): 8:46am On Mar 07, 2020
solmusdesigns:


stop twisting my words, State High court doesn't have jurisdiction to seat over issues federal agencies were joined in
I don't understand what you mean by that. If it's an issue bothering on fundamental human rights, you may have a point. But on this matter, I don't understand what exactly you mean. State high court and federal high court have equal jurisdiction.
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Agboriotejoye(m): 8:47am On Mar 07, 2020
Tomide007:

I think that both the FCT judge and kano judge need to be suspended.....Giving kangaroo judgements is irresponsible. Nigeria need to get rid of political judges.
Calling the fct judgement a kangaroo judgment is your opinion. But giving conflicting orders is against the rules of their profession.
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by maestroferddi: 8:48am On Mar 07, 2020
solmusdesigns:


Simple question; is FCT High Court Jabi a Federal High Court or a State High Court ? can a state High Court (FCT High Court) give judgments on a case bothering another state (Edo APC membership) and even issue an order to a Federal Government Agency (NPF,DSS) and suspend a National Chairaman of a Political Party

do FCT high Court have such jurisdiction?

and is it wrong for Oshiomhole and his lawyers to approach the right Court and secure a proper injuction?

If you were the Executive Arm of Government which court order would you follow? that of a State or that of the FG?

this lawyer that petitioned the NJC just bought market because of his asslicking and eye service ,


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You are not making sense.

Political parties existentially practise the bottom up system.

You rise from the ward to wherever you can.

This why new entrants no matter their clout are mandatorily required to join the party from the ward level.

Going by the party condtitution, Oshiomhole has no business parading himself as the national chairman when his foundation at the ward level has been broken.

He thinks everything is bravado and noisemaking..

Whoever is on his case is doing their homework very well...

Barring the intervention of Buhari and the cabal, Oshiomhole's goose is cooked.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Tomide007: 8:53am On Mar 07, 2020
Agboriotejoye:

Calling the fct judgement a kangaroo judgment is your opinion. But giving conflicting orders is against the rules of their profession.
No its not, its basic law that the FCT high court has no jurisdiction on a matter from Edo state...and the judge knows this. I'm simply amazed that APC had to manufacture a court order to vacate that one. Why not wait for the appeal court to sit on Monday so u get a reasonable judgement.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Babinski: 8:55am On Mar 07, 2020
Afamed:
Charge and bail PDP lawyer

Don't mind the lawyer. They have shown to the world that the basis for obtaining their temporary suspension order on Oshiomole was mischievous.

The order was to be for temporary suspension pending the hearing of the case brought against Oshiomole. If it is now overturned for procedural lapses, how can it be a source for crisis in APC? If they want to remove Oshiomole they should do it the proper way instead of through the back door!
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by solmusdesigns: 8:57am On Mar 07, 2020
then why didn't Edo State High Court where Oshiomhole is a member preside over the issue or why didn't the aboki people approach the federal high court

now to simplify it to you, there is something called jurisdiction in law and order , Hisbah cant come to Ibadan to arrest anybody and take him to north for Sharia court to preside over, Amotekun cant go to Onitscha to make an arrest and bring the culprit to an highcourt in Ibadan highcourt which governor of Ibadan appointed




maestroferddi:
You are not making sense.

Political parties existentially practise the bottom up system.

You rise from the ward to wherever you can.

This why new entrants no matter their clout are mandatorily required to join the party from the ward level.

Going by the party condtitution, Oshiomhole has no business parading himself as the national chairman when his foundation at the ward level has been broken.

He thinks everything is bravado and noisemaking..

Whoever is on his case is doing their homework very well...

Barring the intervention of Buhari and the cabal, Oshiomhole's goose is cooked.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by fergie001: 8:59am On Mar 07, 2020
ejimatic:
In my earlier comment I said Abuja court should have asked the parties to maintain status cope pending the determination of the matter in April but went ahead hurriedly to give an injunction to satisfy a party.This is an aberration in the judicial dispensation. His action engendered this judicial crisis
...and Allagoa joined in the madness as well by giving an exparte....Exparte expires after 14 days, what if the matter isn't resolved then, so he will give another exparte?
Haba

Justice SC Orji of the same FCT High Court did same in Dec by suspending Oshiomhole pending the substantive suit. Oshiomhole didn't get an exparte, he went back to the Court in Jan and the matter was struck out.

Why did Oshiomhole or indeed Allagoa not get an exparte then?

Oshiomhole should have gone to the CoA since same
Dec/Jan to get a SoE..he didn't, now you are blaming Senchi.

You'll see Oshiomhole as God who is infallible. The same mistakes he makes in Zamfara, Bayelsa and co, is the same thing he is doing to himself.

When Jane Inyang in Yenagoa ruled that APC didn't have a candidate in Bayelsa elections and wrongly so, why did the APC not get an exparte from the FHC in Damaturu or the FHC in Sambisa? A court of co-ordinate jurisdiction.

They are lucky we have a flippant Tanko...if it were Aloma Mukhtar, they would have known the difference between six and half a dozen.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Agboriotejoye(m): 9:02am On Mar 07, 2020
Tomide007:

No its not, its basic law that the FCT high court has no jurisdiction on a matter from Edo state...and the judge knows this. I'm simply amazed that APC had to manufacture a court order to vacate that one. Why not wait for the appeal court to sit on Monday so u get a reasonable judgement.
Like I've said severally, the case before the judge was not his suspension. The case was that by virtue of his suspension, he can't be chairman.
Do you get the difference?
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Scose0147(m): 9:16am On Mar 07, 2020
I still find it difficult that some mumu still supports this cultic party called APC. This people have failed this country and you zombies still supports them.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by maestroferddi: 9:21am On Mar 07, 2020
solmusdesigns:
then why didn't Edo State High Court where Oshiomhole is a member preside over the issue or why didn't the aboki people approach the federal high court

now to simplify it to you, there is something called jurisdiction in law and order , Hisbah cant come to Ibadan to arrest anybody and take him to north for Sharia court to preside over, Amotekun cant go to Onitscha to make an arrest and bring the culprit to an highcourt in Ibadan highcourt which governor of Ibadan appointed




You are still not making sense.

As someone explained above, the High Court at Abuja issued the injunction based on the fact that Oshiiomhole was benefitting from an illegality principally under the Court's judicial space or territorial jurisdiction.

The injunction was merely mandating Oshiomhole to go and clear himsellf at the ward/state level before parading himself as a national chairman.

If you know anything about party constitutions, you will not be arguing blindly/ignorantly.

Just like I said earlier, minus Buhari and the cabal, Oshiomhole is toast.

It appears his lawyers are deceiving him...

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Eteka1(m): 9:36am On Mar 07, 2020
The problem with Nigerians is ignorance. The judge did not sit on appeal on the case. What happened is that the people that took Oshiomhole to court alleging that he had been suspended by his ward and therefore should be suspended from being national chairman made a mistake by filing the case in a state high court outside Edo state (if they were to file it in any High Court outside Edo state, it should have been a federal high court). FCT high court lacks jurisdiction in this case so it will be dismissed at appeal court level for same reason.

What Oshiomhole did was to outsmart them by filing for stay of execution and also appealing to the court of appeal while at the same time using a proxy to challenge his purported suspension by the Ward Exco at a Federal High Court in Kano (being a federal high court, it has jurisdiction over the matter).

The judge gave a ruling quashing the suspension by the APC ward Exco which means that when the court of appeal nullifies the FCT High Court order for lack of jurisdiction, Oshiomhole's opponents can't go to a federal high court but have to appeal the Kano federal high court judgement to the Court of Appeal.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by goaldynman(m): 9:37am On Mar 07, 2020
festacman:
[s]Adam Oshiomole's explanation is simple:
- His lawyers made it clear that State High courts as well as FCT High Court lack jurisdiction to adjudicate on matters involving Federal agencies.
- The FCT High Court order was therefore a nullity given that DSS and Nigeria Police, which are both Federal Agencies were joined in the suit.
- Based on this legal fact, his lawyers approached a FEDERAL High Court in Kano, which has jurisdiction to obtain needed respite[/s].

Is Abuja a State? Can a Court in Abuja be rightfully referred to as a State high Court?!!
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by maestroferddi: 9:37am On Mar 07, 2020
7lives:


they just don't get it, that joining federal agency with Oshiomole in that suit, is the loophole that was exploited by the Kano judge, to set aside the Abuja court ruling, had it been Oshiomole alone, the judge in the Kano court wouldn't dare.
When next the misfits in APC wants to buy impeachment, coup and other political shenanigans in court, they should at least remember to contract a good legaluminary, abi dem don forget ni?, that the vice president is a proffessor of law.
You see how clueless you are sounding!

So they should have joined Amotekun in the case instead of the Police and DSS which are under the Exclusive Legislative list?

Simple knowledge of something as ordinary as school certificate Government should have saved you this meltdown.

We don't state police in Nigeria so joining the security agencies as interested parties in the case is perfectly in order.

We are operating motor park justice here, ogbeni...
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Nobody: 9:38am On Mar 07, 2020
DModeCntStopMe:


You are quick to quote me, when you have failed in your simple duty to properly read well and understand what I put up there.

Where did I said it started with this govt?

For clarity, I said "money exchanging hands openly" the key word there is 'openly'

Meaning we have never had it so bad

You actually did say so.

Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Nobody: 9:44am On Mar 07, 2020
maestroferddi:
You are still not making sense.

As someone explained above, the High Court at Abuja issued the injunction based on the fact that Oshiiomhole was benefitting from an illegality principally under the Court's judicial space or territorial jurisdiction.

The injunction was merely mandating Oshiomhole to go and clear himsellf at the ward/state level before parading himself as a national chairman.

If you know anything about party constitutions, you will not be arguing blindly/ignorantly.

Just like I said earlier, minus Buhari and the cabal, Oshiomhole is toast.

It appears his lawyers are deceiving him...



Please keep sentiments aside and tell yourself the truth if its NEC or ward that can remove a party chairman.
Hope when some paid disgruntled elements in the nearest future claim to expel a President from a party and by implication ceases to be cinc because a president must be sponsored by a political party, we will applaud same?

We celebrate bad precedence in this country but turn around to condemn it if its not in our interest.
Let's learn to condemn evil regardless whose ox is gored.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by maestroferddi: 9:52am On Mar 07, 2020
Eteka1:
The problem with Nigerians is ignorance. The judge did not sit on appeal on the case. What happened is that the people that took Oshiomhole to court alleging that he had been suspended by his ward and therefore should be suspended from being national chairman made a mistake by filing the case in a state high court outside Edo state (if they were to file it in any High Court outside Edo state, it should have been a federal high court). FCT high court lacks jurisdiction in this case so it will be dismissed at appeal court level for same reason.

What Oshiomhole did was to outsmart them by filing for stay of execution and also appealing to the court of appeal while at the same time using a proxy to challenge his purported suspension by the Ward Exco at a Federal High Court in Kano (being a federal high court, it has jurisdiction over the matter).

The judge gave a ruling quashing the suspension by the APC ward Exco which means that when the court of appeal nullifies the FCT High Court order for lack of jurisdiction, Oshiomhole's opponents can't go to a federal high court but have to appeal the Kano federal high court judgement to the Court of Appeal.
Read the sundry explanations we have given and stop splitting hairs on a straightforward issue.

You beard a lion in it's den.

Oshiomhole was suspended at the crime scene which is at Abuja where the party Secretariat situate.

A smart tactician/general does not underrate the adversary. He assumes that they are not stupid by supposing that they must have done their homework.
He does not waste precious time in hubris, denial and fantasy. He applies himself with ways to best the enemy in his own game.

It will amount to tomfoolery to assume that the authors and backers of the plot to solve Oshiomhole for good did not consider something as banal as the best place to launch the sortie/offensive.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by maestroferddi: 10:00am On Mar 07, 2020
Xposed2020:




Please keep sentiments aside and tell yourself the truth if its NEC or ward that can remove a party chairman.
Hope when same is done to PDP, your tone won't change.
The same INEC cannot override the party constitution which is sacrosanct before the law.

When you are in the good graces of the powers that be, you can do anything and get away with it .

Just try and sustain the status quo because the day you lose popularity, the system will throw the books at you by leaving you to sink with hitherto hidden technicalities.

Oshiomhole should have known better.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by goaldynman(m): 10:08am On Mar 07, 2020
Afamed:

PDP mole, you have not said anything new

What is the concern of PDP in the matter?

APC are fighting themselves and we the spectators are watching and laughing; and you are lamenting here!

Is the deputy national chairman of APC a PDP member? Or has Obaseki defected to PDP?!

Your mumu na follow come; e no get cure!!

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Nnannapat(m): 10:20am On Mar 07, 2020
festacman:
Adam Oshiomole's explanation is simple:
- His lawyers made it clear that State High courts as well as FCT High Court lack jurisdiction to adjudicate on matters involving Federal agencies.
- The FCT High Court order was therefore a nullity given that DSS and Nigeria Police, which are both Federal Agencies were joined in the suit.
- Based on this legal fact, his lawyers approached a FEDERAL High Court in Kano, which has jurisdiction to obtain needed respite.
Another angle.
The Headquarters of APC is in Abuja, and Oshiomhole works and resides in Abuja, and the plaintiff also works and resides in Abuja.
The fact.
Oshiomhole was legally suspended by the authorities of his ward and state executives in Edo, so he is no more an APC member according to their party's constitution.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by DModeCntStopMe: 10:25am On Mar 07, 2020
Xposed2020:


You actually did say so.

The level of impunity and corruption in the judiciary has never being this pronounced.

When have we had judgements and counter judgements given by the same court so glaring like we have now which points to the obvious fact that money must have definitely exchanged hands?

Using the Imo and Bayelsa supreme court judgments as a case study, when has such obnoxious judgements ever given since our democracy? If it is has never happened before then it clearly shows it all started with this govt.

This govt has set so many bad precedents.

My submissions do not suggest that corruption has not been with us here but it's clearly saying that corruption was not this open and it's act done with reckless abandon like is done now.

The irony is that, this is a govt that claims to be fighting corruption.

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Basher8583: 10:54am On Mar 07, 2020
roundman:
Read they wont,they will just allow their emotions over shadow their reasoning.

You are very correct. Infact spot on
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Basher8583: 11:00am On Mar 07, 2020
solmusdesigns:


look he wont die like Kano electoral commission boss did in 2015, he did the right thing and Judges cant be bullied by APC.. Justice Odili had successfully humiliated and humbled Buhari's men on several occasion and most judges are now seeing how powerful they are, Buhari made a mistake the day he raided the houses of Judges across Nigeria and was unable to prosecute many of them, now almost all judges have scores to settle with Buhari's men, and many of them are smart enough to keep their cash unlike Onnoghen who was over confident


.

We shall see. Its only a judge with clean hands that can pull that off. And guess what? None of them have clean hands. So if you do anyhow, you get disgraced just like onnoghen.
All judges will do thier job and watch who they deal with if they like thier job. It's that simple
Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Eteka1(m): 11:20am On Mar 07, 2020
maestroferddi:
Read the sundry explanations we have given and stop splitting hairs on a straightforward issue.

You beard a lion in it's den.

Oshiomhole was suspended at the crime scene which is at Abuja where the party Secretariat situate.

A smart tactician/general does not underrate the adversary. He assumes that they are not stupid by supposing that they must have done their homework.
He does not waste precious time in hubris, denial and fantasy. He applies himself with ways to best the enemy in his own game.

It will amount to tomfoolery to assume that the authors and backers of the plot to solve Oshiomhole for good did not consider something as banal as the best place to launch the sortie/offensive.
He was purportedly suspended by his ward in Edo state, how is that tantamount to him being suspended in Abuja?

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Re: Oshiomhole’s Suspension: Andrew Emwanta drags Justice Lewis Allagoa to The NJC by Eteka1(m): 11:21am On Mar 07, 2020
festacman:
Adam Oshiomole's explanation is simple:
- His lawyers made it clear that State High courts as well as FCT High Court lack jurisdiction to adjudicate on matters involving Federal agencies.
- The FCT High Court order was therefore a nullity given that DSS and Nigeria Police, which are both Federal Agencies were joined in the suit.
- Based on this legal fact, his lawyers approached a FEDERAL High Court in Kano, which has jurisdiction to obtain needed respite.
Exactly my point.

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