Junaid Mohammed, elder statesman and Second Republic House of Representatives member in this interview with TEMIDAYO AKINSUYI, speaks on the dethronement of former Emir of Kano, Mallam Muhammad Sanusi by the Kano state government. Excerpts:

There is this belief in some quarters that the the dethronement of Mallam Muhammad Sanusi, former Emir of Kano by the Kano state government has political undertone. Do you also share that view?

No! It has no political undertone. I say no with great circumspection because the Emir is not a political appointee; he is an appointee of the traditional institution of the Emirates system. This system predates partisan politics in northern Nigeria. The British came and found the system, they retained the system after making some modifications so it could align itself with modernity and the system of British public administration. Also, they are not prepared to spend much money on administration in Nigeria when they have India, a much bigger country; which is today India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Malay, the main component of Malaysia. There are other countries which were supposed to be under the public administration system of the British. So, they wanted to save much money as possible and they felt that they could use the Emirates system in order to save money and also maintain continuity in the system of public administration, mordenise the tax system and make sure it could pay the administration of the emirates system in northern Nigeria. As far as I am concerned, that was the main rationale. When we got independence in 1960, we did not dissolve it. Those who are making noise in other parts of the country outside the north also retained their own system of government. Where it did not exist in South East and South South, they somehow came round to electing something similar to what we have in the north for themselves. As far as I am concerned, it has nothing to do with politics.

What brought politics into the appointment of the last Emir who has just been dethroned was the fact that PDP decided to get involved and it also coincided with the fact that the former Emir had made reckless statements about missing $21b and the former president, Goodluck Jonathan asked him to be arrested. However, he went into hiding and it was while he was in hiding, the vacancy occurred through the death of Emir Ado Bayero and he became the Emir of Kano. The then governor, Rabiu Kwankwaso and his deputy, Abdullahi Ganduje, who is the current governor of the state, hid him in Government House and later they announced his appointment as Emir of Kano. But since he became Emir, he decided to be openly partisan and he had problems with the previous governor, Kwankwaso who issued him a query. That trend has continued with the current governor even though the two of them (Kwankwaso and Ganduje) are now in different political parties. Kwankwaso is now in PDP, while Ganduje who was then in PDP is now in APC.

What can you say about his appointment as Emir?

His appointment as Emir has been a very controversial appointment and it was done with great disrespect to the wishes of Kano people. I remember his grandfather who was one of the most autocratic, most corrupt and most vicious monarchs of the Fulani Emirs in Kano. He was appointed by the Sardauna of Sokoto and it was the same Sardauna who dethroned him. I remember as I was growing up in the 1950s, thousands of Kano people were taken to the main prison in Kano and other prisons because they were demanding for the creation of Kano state. Many of them were killed because they were supporting Northern Elements Progressive Union (NEPU) and PRP’s Sawaba. So, there is a history between the former Emir and his grandfather and the city of Kano. Clearly, this mischievous attempt by Lamido Sanusi to now identify himself with the radical wing of Kano population is uncalled for. They are right-wing persons who have no respect for the common man and none of them can be associated with any progress in Kano today. The educational attainment of Kano today was done under the auspices of Audu Bako who was the first military administrator of Kano state who was in fact, a policeman and nobody can point out to you one single thing his grandfather or him did for the people when they were Emir of Kano.

If indeed, there was a political undertone, the fact of the matter was that his dethronement was the wish of the majority because there has not been any negative reaction from anybody since the action was taken. People are going about their normal businesses. I just returned from my bank which is located in the heart of the city and everywhere is peaceful.

There is also this belief that some of the statements made by the deposed Emir are controversial and offensive to the Northern elites. What is your reaction to that?

First, I have a reputation for over 40 years of making controversial statements but people in this part of the country respect facts. If you make any statement, even if it is controversial, the first thing they will ask you is ‘is it true?’ So, I have been able to survive so far because nobody has faulted me on any of the so-called controversial statements that I made in the last 40 years. In the northern culture, it is not a crime to make controversial statements because controversial simply means the statement is abnormal and something which is extraordinary. I have made several of such both as an active politician and now that I’m into retirement. However, the statements of the deposed Emir were utterly irresponsible and reckless and they were designed to insult the north. In sociology, we have a group of people who are called misanthropes, they are people who hate themselves and because they hate themselves, they project that hatred to people with whom they shared the same identity. The deposed emir is a classical misanthrope. If you go through the history of all societies, i know some errand boys of the Sokoto caliphates who hate themselves and therefore hate the Sokoto caliphates. He belongs to the band of Fulani clan called Sullubawa. They are a quite a number of them who have had a very rough patch in life and they believe that all of us in Northern Nigeria should be like them. To me, that is madness because people have their own identity and they have a right to choose their leaders, be it national or political. You can’t exercise power if you don’t have support of the people. Sanusi’s statement were not only controversial but the main reason was he chose to be in the service of those who have made it their professional career to abuse the north, humiliate the north and believe nothing good can come out of the north. No community can be condemned out rightly like that nor can you condemn the leaders of societies the way he has been doing it. If you want to condemn people, you must be specific and state what they have done right and what they have done wrong and what is your own specific solution to the problem. If you abuse northern elites, fine but what about other elites in other parts of the country? Have they fared any better? The answer is no. I condemn Nigerian elites wholeheartedly but I don’t believe that we should do so as to be pleasing to some people in the South. That is the difference between him and the rest of us who are radicals. We are true radicals who believe in what we say. We believe the elites are irresponsible but the deposed Emir believes only northern elites should be blamed. So, if he finds himself in the hot water of the northern elites, he shouldn’t be surprised.

Is there still hope for him in coming back to the throne?

There is nothing the media in Lagos or anybody can do to bring him back to be Emir. I don’t believe any line of his family can be emirs again because we have tried them twice and they have been a woeful disaster. He is out of touch of realities in Kano and in the North and none of the people want to impose themselves on the North. They want to turn the north into a colony. If he is such a great guy, let them make him the president or let him stand for election, let’s see the votes he can get.

hisexcellency34:
And who says Sanusi can't be brought back by another governor who succeeds Gandollar??

CliffDike:
Junaid Mohammed is not only loquacious but also extremely irresponsible.
He feeds in controversy and praise-singing.........take him serious at your own peril.


Sanusi will rise above this humiliation.
Who says he can't become a governor or even president of this country?
Time will surely tell!

God bless Nigeria!

IkeOnyia:
Sanusi Lamido was alleged to have instigated the mob killing of an Igbo man in Kano but Igbos have become his number one advocates. Shame!

IkeOnyia:
Sanusi Lamido was alleged to have instigated the mob killing of an Igbo man in Kano but Igbos have become his number one advocates. Shame!

whitebeard:
prove it..!

hisexcellency34:
No evidence to back up that claim

NextD18:

Karma played fast!
Tinubu is next! All GEJ's conspirators must suffer it!

agarawu23:

I weep for the future of Nigeria. Some ediots are jubilating because he was against gej. the man raised a red flag of money that's meant for all of us and how gej sat and watch money being stolen by his elite. Is that why you guys hate him? Sanusi is a no nonsense man..... hate him or like him. He would have been ass licking ganduje's ass for him to remain in the seat if he doesn't have integrity.

He will grow higher cos he is an intelligent man with good records.

#teamSanusi

IkeOnyia:
Sanusi Lamido was alleged to have instigated the mob killing of an Igbo man in Kano but Igbos have become his number one advocates. Shame!

IkeOnyia:
Sanusi Lamido was alleged to have instigated the mob killing of an Igbo man in Kano but Igbos have become his number one advocates. Shame!

SangoOlukosoOba:
Royalty has been disfigured

The title will never be what it used to be.


Am Emir is now like a pig knowing guy we he can be removed at anytime

Imagine dethroning the Great Oni of Ife.

IkeOnyia:
Sanusi Lamido was alleged to have instigated the mob killing of an Igbo man in Kano but Igbos have become his number one advocates. Shame!