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| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by akigbemaru: 12:40pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Amalekki: |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 7lives: 12:44pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
OROSUNBOLB:Omo the Alawe guy na real omo shaku shaku ., Ti aja ba nsiwin, o ye ki o mo olowo e o. Ooni Olubushe in all his powers had to beg for the state of Osun to be created, to avoid further confrontation with an Alafin. Ti Alawe o ba, ba itan, shebi o ba aroba, Alawe needs to visit the family of Bode Thoma, to have a better understanding of how not to mess with an Alafin. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by mankan2k7(m): 12:46pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
7lives:U know nothing about monarchy hierarchy in Ekiti. Who told u Ewi is the most powerful? where aalaye of efon is Ewi will bow to his superior. Do u know oore of otun is more placed than Ewi? Alafin has not forgotten what happened during d kiriji war u know |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 0m0nnakoda: 12:57pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
7lives:Ooni bagged for Osun state to be created to avoid confrontation with Allaafin? That sounds like what a child would say? Do you have evidence of this begging? Who "begged" for Ekiti state to be created. It is important not to mix up issues Whatever is happening in Ekiti is not the official concern of Alaafin. If he has anything to say he should say it privately Alaafin is not and no other person is King of what is now called Yoruba land Alaafin should stop trying to resurrect a dead empire. Even before the British came Oyo was in decline and Ibadan was a stronger force This is important because going forward if there will be peace it will be one which the Alaafin learns to recognise that the empire died a long time |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by darfay: 1:13pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Amalekki:So ekiti resisted the Fulani lead illorin emirate, no Wonder it is extremely rear to find Muslims from ekiti state |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by Mrhonesty: 1:19pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
saheedbadmus:You are the ignorant. Ekiti is different from Oyo. Did Alaafin call the monarchs to any meeting? Alaafin can only advice. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by AJORE(m): 1:32pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Let's him settle oyo's monarch problem first. Stakeholders: |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by seunmsg(m): 2:01pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Sammy07:Akure was part of the Ekiti Parapo confederate army. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by seunmsg(m): 2:05pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
7lives:Ewi is not the most powerful monarch in Ekiti. He may be the most popular because he’s the monarch at the state capital. Other than that, he’s not more powerful than any of the other Pelupelu Obas. Unlike Obas in other states, the 16 traditional crowns of Ekiti are brothers of equal level. They all preside over their respective kingdoms without the interference of the other. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by YungJo207(m): 2:06pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
If they born anybody well for oyo state make him call the alafin to order..you go know say alafin no be Emir of Kano and oyo people still fear and respect that man...iku baba yeye |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by Hottdawgg: 2:08pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
saheedbadmus:Your men are on top of the situation until somebody pulls out a knife or broken bottle, lol |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 7lives: 2:51pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
0m0nnakoda:Stop disgracing yourself up and down ok?, even after the creation of Osun state, Owa Obokun Adimula, Adekunle Aromolaran of Ijeshaland, still shut Ooni Olubuse down from becoming the parmernent chairman, of the council of Obas in Osun state, this is what Owa will not dare try with an Alafin. We are talking about the Alafin of Oyo here, Iku baba yeye, Omo iku to iku ko gbodo pa, omo Arun ti arun ko gbodo she. Who ever dares him die ok?. When the wahala come mordernization will not save Alawe or Fayemi, the earlier sense fall on them the better. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 0m0nnakoda: 3:01pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
7lives:Disgrace? He is iku baba yeye in Oyo, Nothing to do with Ijebu Egba,Lagos it does not even reach Ibadan. You are mixing it up . What is happening in Ekiti is not the Alaafin's business. He has no more of a mandate to write than the Oba of Benin or the Obong of Calabar That is my point. Any attempt to resurrect the Oyo empire or to position Alaafin through the backdoor as leader of other kings outside Oyo state is dead on arrival. Whatever is going on in Ekiti is a different issue and I have not taken any sides or position so don't misrepresent me |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 7lives: 3:20pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
0m0nnakoda:I thought I was discussing with someone who knows how traditional hierarchy works in Yoruba land. Even presidents go dobale in front of an Alafin, so who is Fayemi an Alawe to constitutie nuisance?. The difference between Alafin and other Yoruba monarchs is that, Alafin is a deity, yes a living deity. I won't say more than this. Ti aja yin ba fi Ori ko imi, a mo ona ile olowo e. This is the last time I will post anything on this matter. Ire o. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by singlealone: 3:22pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
But Fayemi has visited the Alaafin. This Alawe sounds more like Alaye.
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| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 7lives: 3:32pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
I talk am, so Fayemi don go meet baba I Know say Fayemi oni fe te. Ta lo njeun time aja nju iru. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 0m0nnakoda: 3:32pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
7lives:What is Yorubaland There is nothing like that You do not know how to debate without personal jibes Focus on the issue. Oyo was an empire it never succeeded in subjugating Ijebus ,Awori Even Ekiti were vassals at one point or another of Benin At every opportunity Oyo vassal states fought for freedom just like Nigeria did with Britain The Oyo lost authority over Ilorin to military force. They cannot intervene there. They cannot intervene in Sabe or Ajase in Benin republic Why do Ajase people not describe themselves as Yoruba So when I hear Young people talk of Yoruba land I laugh. Definitely people need to ask themselves what that means It is Nigeria that has forced Ekiti, Egba ,Ijebus to call themselves Yoruba. Before Nigeria was formed they never did. Those entities were NATIONS on their own.if Nigeria breaks up and SW decided to come together there is no basis to ascribe leadership to Oyo The Oyo empire was dismantled a very long time ago |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 7lives: 3:35pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
0m0nnakoda:
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| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by Charly68: 3:38pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Fayemi caused the bruhaha he foist the king on his superiors |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by gaskiyamagana: 3:59pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
seunmsg:The remaining belongs to which empire? |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by IndianRomeo: 4:01pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
EKITI LOKO IBADAN......people should not forget the saying. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by Dollabiz: 4:39pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Hmmmm |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by seunmsg(m): 4:47pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
gaskiyamagana:They are stand alone kingdoms. There is no rule that a town must be part of an empire. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by Sammy07: 4:51pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
seunmsg:Akure is different from Ondo |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by Sammy07: 4:52pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
gaskiyamagana: seunmsg:E.g, Ondo. Ondo kingdom is never part of Oyo empire or Benin empire |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 0m0nnakoda: 5:17pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Sammy07:Even if it was part that is not eternal, Nigeria, the USA and much more were part of the British Empire. When an empire ends There cannot be insistence on past glory . Oyo is a town in Oyo state period One other thin is the Creation of Nigeria FORCED several groups which previously never did so to self identify as "Yoruba" Similar groups in Benin republic do not identify as such Finally not everyone sees themselves as Omo Oduduwa |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 0m0nnakoda: 5:20pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
seunmsg:Substitute the word town with Nation. Those Kingdoms were nation states |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 0m0nnakoda: 5:22pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
[quote author=7lives post=87464791][/quote]Lo bere Lowo oloriebi yin |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by Austino68651: 5:54pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
see below |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by Sammy07: 5:58pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
0m0nnakoda:I know, what I'm trying to say is. Never in history did any town or empire conquered Ondo kingdom |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by seunmsg(m): 6:00pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
0m0nnakoda:Very correct. |
| Re: Alawe Reports Alaafin To Seyi Makinde, Calls Him An Interlopper by 0m0nnakoda: 6:14pm On Mar 15, 2020 |
Sammy07:So how come Ondo Kingdom is part of Nigeria? Ondo became part of the British Empire which handed it over to Nigeria its successor state. Anyway I understand your direction of thinking |
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