₦airaland Forum

helinues:
The question you Igbo's are afraid to answer is Why can't SE demands/contest 2023 presidency under Pdp..

It's a waste of time for igbos to demand presidency without getting to full backing of the whole south ....it's like going to a war u would surely lose . ..

As long as north is contesting 12 million votes is u're for that northern candidate ...igbos can get 4 or 5 from east , 4 or 5 from South south it's can't work ....same with a Yoruba man contesting

mrvitalis:
It's a waste of time for igbos to demand presidency without getting to full backing of the whole south ....it's like going to a war u would surely lose . ..

As long as north is contesting 12 million votes is u're for that northern candidate ...igbos can get 4 or 5 from east , 4 or 5 from South south it's can't work ....same with a Yoruba man contesting

What do you mean by full backing off the whole south? Is politics no longer matter of interest?

If that's the reason SE are chickening out from 2023 race, we can only wish you all the best.

SW are contesting and we are battle ready to face any candidate from any region

Paretomaster1:
They voted in Jonathan, and Yar'adua, so those don't have a moderate view of life ?

Jonathan they puppeteered successfully. Yaradua died untimely expectedly by the puppeteers. Sanusi is too stubborn for anyone to attempt to puppeteer him.

This doesn't mean he is the messiah cos Sanusi would yet likely go there and create a kind of order that would finally put paid to the secession debates.

what are you saying?? We're almajiris and cow herdsmen... you have nothing to fear,southerners are the most educated na .... remember?

mrvitalis:
If u think north won't contest in 2023 then u don't know north and I shouldn't reply u

No, you don't know North, and that's you r where u r today....

All you peeps r trying to do is create hatred like you always do, go and fight for your own political future, a southwesterner will b President come 2023, u can hang yourself afterwards.....

mrvitalis:
Lol the way north is acting u think they have plan to hand over ...Bros u funny like mad

Ogah what is your own? How is d North acting? Always trying to cause discord

Blackking98:
Helinues and mrvitalis pree the bickering, Igbo or Yoruba won't beat the north in 2023 if they contest in 2023, so two of you should sit down and reach an agreement on candidate, I'm from the SS, Akwa Ibom precisely, just watching you two from a distance till hopefully you two put the bickering aside and be reasonable for the greater good of the south,if it comes down to Igbo vs Yoruba in 2023 the igbos would surely get SS votes in block,north wud be the Battle ground

If it comes to that, just answer yourself, WHO WILL THE NORTH VOTE FOR? the answer is obvious..

Paretomaster1:
No, you don't know North, and that's you r where u r today....

All you peeps r trying to do is create hatred like you always do, go and fight for your own political future, a southwesterner will b President come 2023, u can hang yourself afterwards.....

I really don't know their problems with pull it down syndrome.

Nobody is stopping them from supporting northern candidate in 2023.

SW are ready for any candidate from any region.. Let's meet at the poll

Simple as ABC

mrvitalis:
We didn't vote ojukwu because we respected the zoning agreement not knowing the rest of the country has no dignity to respect simple agreement

Which zoning agreement? With who? Politically, u r irrelevant..... I hope d 2015 election have clear your doubts

helinues:
I really don't know their problems with pull it down syndrome.

Nobody is stopping them from supporting northern candidate in 2023.

SW are ready for any candidate from any region.. Let's meet at the poll

Simple as ABC

You know their antics na, create hatred, and division, Sebi they say SW is licking North a** , now they see its going to be North, SW, and even SS affairs...

Politically Dem go still get sense.... After SW, it's either SS or North again...

Paretomaster1:
You know their antics na, create hatred, and division, Sebi they say SW is licking North a** , now they see its going to be North, SW, and even SS affairs...

Politically Dem go still get sense.... After SW, it's either SS or North again...

2023 is a battle within Apc.. Pdp will only contest for contesting sake.

Atiku would want to be on the Pdp ballot.. That's where the trouble will start from.

Firstly, he has no cult base in North
Secondly, the likes of Wike, Ikeweremadu, Umahi wouldn't want Atiku again.

Atiku may go to another party and divide Pdp's vote.. If he forced himself in like 2019, reasonable southern Pdp politicians will defect to other party

So 2023 election lost before even contesting

helinues:
What do you mean by full backing off the whole south? Is politics no longer matter of interest?

If that's the reason SE are chickening out from 2023 race, we can only wish you all the best.

SW are contesting and we are battle ready to face any candidate from any region

You have time to argue... It is only a fool will believe that the Igbos or ipobs will ever sit even as senate president talk more of vice... The Igbos are day dreaming even in the House their reps knows how deep this is

helinues:
May be you guys don't get it, you people are inconsequential when it comes to Nigeria politics.

Voting strength, una no get
Political heavy weight, una no get

So let even assuming North is still eyeing 2023, why should they seek the help of inconsequential people?

Una go learn in hard way this time.. I am just hoping future Igbo's won't repeat same mistakes your past leaders/hero made.. Cos the present Igbo have repeated and still repeating your forefathers mistakes.

If I can't have it then nobody should.. When you guys are still paying for the error of ZIK.

Okay oo

You people love dancing to your own beat.
Igbos are inconsequential but Nigeria shed blood to keep them

Igbos are inconsequential, but under no circumstances will Nigerian government ever agree to let them go

All this nonsense about igbos should use the legislative branch to fight for Biafra, as if that will make a difference. As if Nigeria will all of a sudden start cooperating. Who's fooling who

If igbos are indeed inconsequential, let Nigeria show me with her actions. Let the igbos go. But all I hear is there will be no breakup and cries of unity.

Inconsequential means I can do without you. If that's the case, then SHOW ME. Some things are better understood with actions. Can't be mouth every damn time

It's like the guy that's always finding fault with his wife but won't give her divorce. Because he knows she has options

helinues:
SW are not afraid to test the presidency water by 2023. Which ever region North or other region from South who might be interested should meet us at the poll.

Is that too hard to understand

And what if you loose? Cus the bragging and gloating of the SW about 2023 is really amazing me.

mrvitalis:
What agreement do u think us the just agreement to reach ....are igbos asking for what's not there turn ? ....why can't u people call a spade a spade

oh well. Suit yourselves

Paretomaster1:
If it comes to that, just answer yourself, WHO WILL THE NORTH VOTE FOR? the answer is obvious..

You mean who would the core north vote for? Because states like plateau,benue,taraba etc are liberal states. However by speculation I'd say Yoruba, but one thing both igbos and most especially Yorubas should know is that the core north loves neither of u and is only interested in power and they align with any group that has a better deal for them, so if the igbos bring a better deal than your Yoruba folk I assure you that you'd be shocked when results start coming in, the way your Yoruba gloat about 2023 tho makes one wonder whether the SE or us in the SS went on vacation, seem so over confident, if you lose hmm, till then.

Elections are contested and won by political parties and NOT regions.

What exactly do you mean by the 'North'?

In every region, it's impossible for all the voters to vote for a particular party/candidate.

Which political party is the PDM in 2020 which is just three years to the presidential election? Who are the foot soldiers of this PDM in Kwara, Rivers, Borno, Benue or Ogun States?

What is the structure of this migical PDM in all the 36 States, how many State Governors and senators do they have?


For this PDM to be so viable and nationally acceptable, that mean about 60% of the present crop of Governors, Senators, House of Reps members, Ministers and others must LOSE their seats/political relevance to this PDM.

mrvitalis:
Why are u guys so greedy to see that party is nothing just a mechanism to achieve a regions goal ...south west gets APC , south east gets PDP

North migrate to PDM ...PDM would easily win

When south loses 2023 let it be known that greed of yorubas cost it

And what's bad in losing?


If you are so scared of losing, you won't try anything.


Elections should be like sports; you win some and you lose some.

You can NOT be winning all the time.

Blackking98:
And what if you loose? Cus the bragging and gloating of the SW about 2023 is really amazing me.

Which zoning agreement did you respect in 2015 by massively voting GEJ?

Which zoning agreement did you respect in 2019 by voting Atiku Abubakar and which zoning agreement will you be respecting in 2023 by voting Atiku?





You probably think all your listeners are fools.

mrvitalis:
We didn't vote ojukwu because we respected the zoning agreement not knowing the rest of the country has no dignity to respect simple agreement

oyatz:
And what's bad in losing?


If you are so scared of losing, you won't try anything.


Elections should be like sports; you win some and you lose some.

You can NOT be winning all the time.

Excellent answer. It sometimes takes losing to learn how to win. Losing, after giving it your all, is far more dignified and brave than failing to compete at all because of the fear of failure.

Blackking98:
And what if you loose? Cus the bragging and gloating of the SW about 2023 is really amazing me.

Loosing is part of life.. Then we move on and restrategise

Blackking98:
You mean who would the core north vote for? Because states like plateau,benue,taraba etc are liberal states. However by speculation I'd say Yoruba, but one thing both igbos and most especially Yorubas should know is that the core north loves neither of u and is only interested in power and they align with any group that has a better deal for them, so if the igbos bring a better deal than your Yoruba folk I assure you that you'd be shocked when results start coming in, the way your Yoruba gloat about 2023 tho makes one wonder whether the SE or us in the SS went on vacation, seem so over confident, if you lose hmm, till then.

Pls stop this your speculation, Hausa hate this Hausa hate that...... Must every tribe be hate filled like the Igbos?

What's even all this fuse about? If u r sure of yourself, come out, and contest, don't distract us with your hate mongering....

Paretomaster1:
Pls stop this your speculation, Hausa hate this Hausa hate that...... Must every tribe be hate filled like the Igbos?

What's even all this fuse about? If u r sure of yourself, come out, and contest, don't distract us with your hate mongering....

you're funny tho. We're both saying the same thing as I'm explaining to the guy. You think I'm Igbo so you decided to quote me. Clown

Paretomaster1:
Pls stop this your speculation, Hausa hate this Hausa hate that...... Must every tribe be hate filled like the Igbos?

What's even all this fuse about? If u r sure of yourself, come out, and contest, don't distract us with your hate mongering....

Indeed. People like who they like. Period. Northern leaders and ordinary folks are simply more comfortable with Yorubas of all the major ethnic group from the South able to view for power and this is a reality the Yorubas did not go out of their way to court or create.

It is just the resultant effect of Yorubas being tolerant and hosting a live-and-let-live approach to life unlike some who judge everything about others and are always keen to highlight what divides us rather than what unites us.

You won't get away with insulting and hating on Northerners, day in and day out for decades, only to then think they will vote you to lead them. Simply won't happen and this is what makes Igbos unelectable. No one is comfortable with them. Simple and undiluted reality of Nigeria.

This is why I laugh when Igbos say it is their turn in 2023. Where will the votes come from, for an Igbo candidate, apart from the SE and maybe decent showing in the SS assuming any major Party is even crazy enough to give an Igbo its Presidential ticket?

Oshigun:
Indeed. People like who they like. Period. Northern leaders and ordinary folks are simply more comfortable with Yorubas of all the major ethnic group from the South able to view for power and this is a reality the Yorubas did not go out of their way to court or create.

It is just the resultant effect of Yorubas being tolerant and hosting a live-and-let-live approach to life unlike some who judge everything about others and are always keen to highlight what divides us rather than what unites us.

You won't get away with insulting and hating on Northerners, day in and day out for decades, only to then think they will vote you to lead them. Simply won't happen and this is what makes Igbos unelectable. No one is comfortable with them. Simple and undiluted reality of Nigeria.

This is why I laugh when Igbos say it is their turn in 2023. Where will the votes come from, for an Igbo candidate, apart from the SE and maybe decent showing in the SS assuming any major Party is even crazy enough to give an Igbo its Presidential ticket?

Lmfaooooooooooooo this man again, dirty Abobaku Yoruba pig it has now come to kissing Aboki ass? has it gotten that bad? The same North that wasted your leaders like Abiola and other NADECO leaders in the heat of June 12? The same North that has on many occasions derided and insulted your people about the push for Amotekun in the southwest? you're really stupid enough to think the North will just hand over power to any day-dreaming Yoruba slave without severe conditions?

And don't even sweet talk the South South here cause they will NEVER ally with you guys, they are smart enough to make better political decisions. Don't worry about the political future/fate of the Igbos, an Igbo man will always come out on top no matter what. So worry about how bleeped your region is, and better start planning for Odua Republic come 2023 cause it will get really dirty for you people, at least your leaders had the foresight to form their useless Amotekun just to arm-twist the North into playing into their polical shenanigans ahead of 2023, unfortunately for them, the North already know better than to concede to your bullshit... we shall see how these games will play out.

Blackking98:
You mean who would the core north vote for? Because states like plateau,benue,taraba etc are liberal states. However by speculation I'd say Yoruba, but one thing both igbos and most especially Yorubas should know is that the core north loves neither of u and is only interested in power and they align with any group that has a better deal for them, so if the igbos bring a better deal than your Yoruba folk I assure you that you'd be shocked when results start coming in, the way your Yoruba gloat about 2023 tho makes one wonder whether the SE or us in the SS went on vacation, seem so over confident, if you lose hmm, till then.

Where did you get the notion that core North loves neither Yorubas or Igbos? Have you listened to Northern elites at, all including radicals like Junaid Mohammed, who have been unequivocal saying if power must shift to the South it must go to the SW?

I don't think Northerners hate anyone as passionately as only Igbos can hate. I think it is more the case of Northerners, whether their leaders or ordinary folks, being more comfortable with Yorubas leading them.

There is no 'deal' Igbos can package, as you suggest they can, that will ever make the North vote an Igbo candidate ahead of a Yoruba candidate. The North, for good historical reasons, simply sees the Igbo man as dangerous and the Yoruba man as more equitable and reasonable. You don't vote someone you are almost sure will use power to persecute and disenfranchise you.

Proof of all I say will be validated with how no main Party, except perhaps APGA, will give an Igbo man its Presidential ticket.

Tobrasky:
Lmfaooooooooooooo this man again, dirty Abobaku Yoruba pig it has now come to kissing Aboki ass? has it gotten that bad? The same North that wasted your leaders like Abiola and other NADECO leaders in the heat of June 12? The same North that has on many occasions derided and insulted your people about the push for Amotekun in the southwest? you're really stupid enough to think the North will just hand over power to any day-dreaming Yoruba slave without severe conditions?

And don't even sweet talk the South South here cause they will NEVER ally with you guys, they are smart enough to make better political decisions. Don't worry about the political future/fate of the Igbos, an Igbo man will always come out on top no matter what. So worry about how bleeped your region is, and better start planning for Odua Republic come 2023 cause it will get really dirty for you people, at least your leaders had the foresight to form their useless Amotekun just to arm-twist the North into playing into their polical shenanigans ahead of 2023, unfortunately for them, the North already know better than to concede to your bullshit... we shall see how these games will play out.

slowpoke, follow me around all you like as a conquered slave would do but be assured what I say, that I know is causing you pain, will come to pass.

I continue to predict confidently that no major Party will adopt an Igbo as its Presidential candidate. Work on how you can negate this and stop focusing on your worst nightmare of Yoruba becoming President.

You should focus on elevating the profile and standing of your ethnic group so that you will not be the number one 'unelectable' of Nigerian politics as is currently the case and likely to be for a long time if fools like you continue obsessing over everything Yoruba while neglecting your own problems.

Oshigun:
slowpoke, follow me around all you like as a conquered slave would do but be assured what I say, that I know is causing you pain, will come to pass.

I continue to predict confidently that no major Party will adopt an Igbo as its Presidential candidate. Work on how you can negate this and stop focusing on your worst nightmare of Yoruba becoming President.

You should focus on elevating the profile and standing of your ethnic group so that you will not be the number one 'unelectable' of Nigerian politics as is currently the case and likely to be for a long time if fools like you continue obsessing over everything Yoruba while neglecting your own problems.

But who the FUCCK are the Yorubas to advise the Igbos on anything for that matter? are you suffering from the "butterfly that thinks itself a bird" complex, or Coronavirus don reset your thinking faculty? Bros abeg Park well, you strangely worry so much about the Igbos, talk of crying more than the bereaved! like I said, stick to kissing the ass of your Northern masters and worry less about the profile of the Igbos!, if you don't feed or cloth them, then your worthless inputs or lack thereof are not needed.

Mr Solicitor

The North owns the game, but it can’t even feed its children! You win, but don’t know what to do with the trophy except to destroy everything! So what’s the point of playing? Keep letting ur leaders deceive u lots while the South develops it’s manpower.

Paretomaster1:
No, you don't know North, and that's you r where u r today....

All you peeps r trying to do is create hatred like you always do, go and fight for your own political future, a southwesterner will b President come 2023, u can hang yourself afterwards.....

Keep dreaming....