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jamesid29:
Where in his write-up did he bully you? How are you certain he is the one behind the other monikers you claim to be trolling you? Finally, I read the Twitter screenshot and what he asked there are legitimate questions not too different from the one I asked in the things we do not know section of my original write up. It's funny sir that you have intentionally not tried to engage any of these questions and many others like it that have been posted by other users.
So once again sir, the only reason you have singled him out and have been dragging him for several pages now is because of his family name and you have been using that against him (which is a form of bullying). I don't know who Mr jide is and I never even knew who owned punch newspaper until you made it known on this thread but what I do know is that, this world we are building, where someone can quickly run online, accuse people of wrong doing without concrete proof and have public sentiment become judge jury and executioner, is not a world I want to leave for my children.

All your remarks and attempt to hold brief for Mr Jide Aboderin won't stop us from exposing you and those different monikers used for bullying us sir.
Here are some of the screenshots among many where you Mr Jide Aboderin bullied and mocked us for demanding payment for our hardwork. We couldn't have found all these things out if we are dealing out of malice. It is God exposing those who hurt and are hurting us sir.
One problem with lying is that if you say or write one lie, when confronted with your lie, you will create more lies to cover the lie.
That's why there's no peace for the wicked. Create a zillion different monikers,conscience is an open wound ,only truth can heal it.
It's just being Grace of God all the way. We could not even pay or afford top bloggers,social media influencers, PR etc. The only thing we can afford to do is say the truth. We are trained and brought up to say the truth at all times.

Here's another report we recieved from those who have suffered a similar fate like us

xtremecr8:
All your remarks and attempt to hold brief for Mr Jide Aboderin won't stop us from exposing you and those different monikers used for bullying us sir.
Here are some of the screenshots among many where you Mr Jide Aboderin bullied and mocked us for demanding payment for our hardwork. We couldn't have found all these things out if we are dealing out of malice. It is God exposing those who hurt and are hurting us sir.
One problem with lying is that if you say or write one lie, when confronted with your lie, you will create more lies to cover the lie.
That's why there's no peace for the wicked. Create a zillion different monikers,conscience is an open wound ,only truth can heal it.
It's just being Grace of God all the way. We could not even pay or afford top bloggers,social media influencers, PR etc. The only thing we can afford to do is say the truth. We are trained and brought up to say the truth at all times.

Luckily Twitter allows one to read tweets without having an account. I was able to read the entire conversation that lead to the tweet you posted here. Why you left out the entire conversation intentionally is best known to you... Maybe it's to show a one sided narrative, maybe not. Either way, at this point ,those who believe you are fighting for justice will believe you and those who see you are fighting a personal vendetta will see it.

Despite all the name calling you've thrown at me for calling it as I see it, I still stand by my original conclusion. You are as much a bully as those you claim to be bullying you. You are trying to use public sentiment to force others to bow to your will, without owning up to where you also may be culpable.

Side note: From experience, the more a person adds God into conversations so as look good, the less I'm inclined to trust them.

It is well sir... I'll leave to it.

jamesid29:
Luckily Twitter allows one to read tweets without having an account. I was able to read the entire conversation that lead to the tweet you posted here. Why you left out the entire conversation intentionally is best known to you... Maybe it's to show a one sided narrative, maybe not. Either way, at this point ,those who believe you are fighting for justice will believe you and those who see you are fighting a personal vendetta will see it.

Despite all the name calling you've thrown at me for calling it as I see it, I still stand by my original conclusion. You are as much a bully as those you claim to be bullying you. You are trying to use public sentiment to force others to bow to your will, without owning up to where you also may be culpable.

Side note: From experience, the more a person adds God into conversations so as look goodp, the less I'm inclined to trust them.

It is well sir... I'll leave to it.

There's so much semblance in the words you and Jide Aboderin are using yet you have not disclosed your own identity like us. Your defence of only Aboderin among the many moniker trolls PR jobbers ,like Gbemisola, Posaze5, GhostPr etc raises and confirm our suspicion.
We don't hate you all.You are doing the target those who influence your customers job you got paid for. But we won't be distracted sir.
We can see people learn from our experiences and we encourage them not to abandon their creative talent because of this kind of attacks we are recieving.
They beat us, they still don't want us to cry. We cried out for help, they unleashed trolls on us.

seun lalasticlala Mynd44 Why is this post still not on frontpage? But it's OK for it to be advertised (even on front page) before it gets people's attention. Because that's how I saw it.
You maybe considering, "Oh FirstBank may want to advertise with us (again) in the future." But this is a grave injustice that needs to get to more people's attention.
If it's worthy of Nairaland advertisement(front page advertisement), it is worthy of front page itself. If it's not worthy of Nairaland front page, then it shouldn't be worthy of Nairaland advertisement.
It shouldn't turn to a bidding war of who can offer more money between xtremecr8 and FirstBank.
Advertisement costs a lot of cash, and that's more drain on xtremecr8's pocket, that's already drained.

xtremecr8:
There's so much semblance in the words you and Jide Aboderin are using yet you have not disclosed your identity like us. Your defence of only Aboderin among the many moniker trolls PR jobbers ,like Gbemisola, Posaze5, GhostPr etc raises and confirm our suspicion.
We don't hate you all. But won't be distracted sir.

. The way you've been trying to put I and jide as one and same person is laughable sir. I'm sure you've checked my profile here to find the smoking gun and would have done the whole finger pointing thing if you found it.

You tend to forget sir, it was you who brought him and Folake's name up in your reply to me( In my original write up I never mentioned any names). When I addressed the fact that you were discrediting these two people without giving us concrete proofs of their evil doings, it was you who zoomed in on jide and later cameup with a one sided Twitter thread. And now that I went to Twitter myself to look at the full conversation and called you out for not presenting all sides of it, you are play the victim game and accuse me of defending only one person right of the bat. The more I look at the tactics you have been using with me sir, the more I begin to understand why you have been refusing to meet fbn's legal team.

But like I said, I'll leave you to it sir.

jamesid29:
. The way you've been trying to put I and jide as one and same person is laughable sir. I'm sure you've checked my profile here to find the smoking gun and would have done the whole finger pointing thing if you found it.

You tend to forget sir, it was you who brought him and Folake's name up in your reply to me( In my original write up I never mentioned any names). When I addressed the fact that you were discrediting these two people without giving us concrete proofs of their evil doings, it was you who zoomed in on jide and later cameup with a one sided Twitter thread. And now that I went to Twitter myself to look at the full conversation and called you out for not presenting all sides of it, you are play the victim game and accuse me of defending only one person right of the bat. The more I look at the tactics you have been using with me sir, the more I begin to understand why you have been refusing to meet fbn's legal team.

But like I said, I'll leave you to it sir.

Hmmm.Please tell them that when people work hard for them like we did designing their 125th Anniversary logo and demands for payment in a decent manner that we have done after the attempt to make it look like giving us job to print means they have paid us, it is not defamation as being suggested by Jide , and James the new moniker now trolling us, sending trolls after us to bully us is ungodly and mischievous sir. Conscience is an open wound, only truth can heal it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGjO0yeMelA

Alcoron:
seun lalasticlala Mynd44 Why is this post still not on frontpage? But it's OK for it to be advertised (even on front page) before it gets people's attention. Because that's how I saw it.
You maybe considering, "Oh FirstBank may want to advertise with us (again) in the future." But this is a grave injustice that needs to get to more people's attention.
If it's worthy of Nairaland advertisement(front page advertisement), it is worthy of front page itself. If it's not worthy of Nairaland front page, then it shouldn't be worthy of Nairaland advertisement.
It shouldn't turn to a bidding war of who can offer more money between xtremecr8 and FirstBank.
Advertisement costs a lot of cash, and that's more drain on xtremecr8's pocket, that's already drained.

Thank you sir. We would actually love to be on the front page if the moderators and admin are convinced that we merit the front page.

jamesid29:
@OP, sir I have been following this topic from page one and watched the video you posted. From everything that has been said, I believe your motivation is not as nobles as you're trying to make it sound and what you are doing is cyber bullying. To be clear sir, I believe First bank dropped the ball by using your logo massively before finalizing pricing and payment and are trying to cover their exposure by going through legal but rather than going through the proper channels like issuing a cease and desist and officially suing them to court where all the facts of case can be examined and everyone can tender their own side of the story, you have brought the case online to try them in the court of public opinion where sentiments and he said she said is mostly all that matters.
Because of the power dynamics at play(them being a big company and you being a small company), you have essentially removed their ability to defend themselves because no matter what they do, if they try to engage you online, public sympathy will always be against them.

Sir with respect, your excuses for not going the legal route first don't really hold water. We have seen people with far less resources than you have stood up against bigger names. If you really want to standup for your right, do it the right way. The fact that you don't even want to meet their legal team to hear what they want to say, shows you might not be totally upfront with your side of the story. So far all you have been doing is trying to garner public outcry to twist firstbanks arm to giving into your demands without giving us any real evidence other than a mail from them referring you to their legal department. You have also dragged anyone who dares speak in favor of firstbank as a trolls of evil masters even if what some of them has no sign of trolling. You are using the #bigbrandsdontkillsmallbrands hashtag,hoping it will catch on, go viral and force First bank to give into your demands, whether you are also in the wrong or not. Again sir,what you are doing is cyber bullying.
You know first Bank has an image to protect and you are using that against them.

From your story, this is what we know (I stand to be corrected)
a) You created a logo for first bank's 125th anniversary(Maybe it was put on only the iPad covers you made for them or maybe you also sent the logo on its own to them, that is still unclear atleast to me).
b) First bank is using said logo on all their promotional items.
c) First bank offered to pay you the same amount you were paid for a similar service in 2016.
d) You were not able to reach an agreement and firstbank referred you to their legal department.

What we do not know
a)Is there any clause in your original vendors contract that gives First bank the exclusive rights to all portions of any service you render to them, whether explicitly given or not?
b) Is there any clause in your vendors contract that puts a cap on the amount First bank would pay you for certain types of services and this clause has not been updated.
c) Did you send the logo to firstbank with a gentleman's understanding that they can go ahead and use the logo and at a later time,you would settle the naira value for the logo. Problem now is, they have gone ahead to use the logo on a lot of their promotional materials but what they think is a fair price for the logo is not agreeable to you?

These are things we are not privy to. First Bank might be a big bad evil empire but your online campaign to drag them without even trying to engage them in a place where they can defend themselves makes you as much of a bully as them sir. If you have tried the legal route and they use their might against you, and then you come online with facts and evidence as your last resort to get justice, we will understand.

So sir let call this what it is. It's not you trying to help others learn or trying to do a win win situation for all sides... This is a smear campaign.

Hmmm. Same narrative but different monikers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RKuP3nzXew
Thank you Saharareporters. Please help us share.

Man! This is crazy... In as much as I would still advise getting a lawyer and visiting their legal team (which after a 2nd thought I remember this is Nigeria, small cases like this can drag on unnecessarily for years).

But all in all, I really feel for you now. In the last few pages of this thread, the level of OBVIOUS trolls that have been probably engaged directly or indirectly by "you know who", to discredit you and your claim is quite sad.

glowskillz:
Man! This is crazy... In as much as I would still advise getting a lawyer and visiting their legal team (which after a 2nd thought I remember this is Nigeria, small cases like this can drag on unnecessarily for years).

But all in all, I really feel for you now. In the last few pages of this thread, the level of OBVIOUS trolls that have been probably engaged directly or indirectly by "you know who", to discredit you and your claim is quite sad.

The reason I tire in going into the web design and development you are doing. It's hard to get customers, even harder to get paid.
A company I should not name now, stole my idea for accident proof cars from an interview in 2012, and I didn't even get the job.

glowskillz:
Man! This is crazy... In as much as I would still advise getting a lawyer and visiting their legal team (which after a 2nd thought I remember this is Nigeria, small cases like this can drag on unnecessarily for years).

But all in all, I really feel for you now. In the last few pages of this thread, the level of OBVIOUS trolls that have been probably engaged directly or indirectly by "you know who", to discredit you and your claim is quite sad.

Thank you sir. We appreciate your sincere thoughts and kind words sir.

webizone:
The reason I tire in going into the web design and development you are doing. It's hard to get customers, even harder to get paid.
A company I should not name now, stole my idea for accident proof cars from an interview in 2012, and I didn't even get the job.

Hmmm

The Director General,
Nigeria Stock Exchange Plc,
Marina,
Lagos.
Attention: ONYEAMA, Oscar(Mr)

Dear sir

How The Failure of First Bank To pay us for designing Their 125th Year Logo Can Harm The Investors, Investing Public and Their Rumoured Merger/Acquisition: *A call for your quick intervention.


Congratulations on the successful demutualization of the exchange sir.

Above subject matter refers.

Who we are:
We are xtremecr8tivity.An indigenous small sized Nigerian company.

What we do:

Our True Passion.We are experts in creativity, our true passion lies in using the brightest ideas to strategically connect brands.

*Our Plea:*
That first bank pays us our bill for creating their 125th Anniversary logo.



Our Campaign:
We beg and solicit for your support to help us beg the big brand First Bank to pay us. We call first bank out over its insistence not to pay us for their 125th Anniversary logo we designed after effort to make them see reason has failed ostensibly frustrated by Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney and other top management.
First Bank Plc. breached our Intellectual property rights and wants to get away with it. 

Steps taken so far?
After several attempts to make the management of first bank plc see reason to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo, we got constrained to take them to the court of public opinion which had been greeted with threat by Nigerians to move their bank accounts from first bank in reprisal for the unfair ill treatment shown to us occassioning a growing concern about the ethics of such a company listed on your premium board.

For example on www.nairaland.com, as at Sunday, 16 March,2020, for our campaign,we have the following analytics:

Out of respect for the authorities we have submitted the letter to today, we will limit the content you can read here to the first page of our petition against FBN to the NSE, we have no doubt that they will wade in and help us beg FIRST bank to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo.
We don't wish to escalate our legitimate campaign to overseas jurisdictions where FBN is still using our intellectual property and not paid us a dime and still grandstanding.
Please kindly bear with us just for now.
We will keep you posted. Thank you for all your help and support.

webizone:
The reason I tire in going into the web design and development you are doing. It's hard to get customers, even harder to get paid.
A company I should not name now, stole my idea for accident proof cars from an interview in 2012, and I didn't even get the job.

Had to get customers? I can relate with that... But hard to get paid, not quite. I have some difficult clients. But for most part my policy of 50% or sometimes 60% upfront payment holds through.

xtremecr8:
They are still using the same logo we designed(screenshot of their Twitter page and picture of their MD, Dr. Adeduntan presenting a package, carrying the 125th FBN logo we designed,to Senator Alasoadua are shown below).
We have not being paid yet she Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney sent us to their legal unit.
Every email we send and even enquiry from Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney by everyone we sought their help to intervene, she kept referring us to the legal unit(screenshot of her email reply)
Meanwhile, we can't pay our own bills.
Please help us tweet at them to beg them to pay us.
We are a small brand and admit that we can't match their kind of resources in Nigeria's legal system. We hardly pay our own overheads let alone paying for protracted legal case in Nigerian courts.
We just want to get paid for designing their 125th Anniversary logo. Nothing more, nothing less. We are ready to meet with their account unit not legal because we don't have business with their legal unit.

you stup.id nigerians are so mentally bound to your slave masters that even your right you beg for it. why dont you furcking take them to court? why are you begging for sympathy from nigerians? if them no fit pay you na we wan beg them to pay you? if you are doing image damage let us know so we know how to support you but coming here to beg for pity and synpathy in a subtle way from God knows where.. you need to get the furck out of here. imagine saying you dont habe business with their legal team say na accounting team. pieces of shit. i can see why they are even doing you guys like trash! no business confidence. im sure your predator already saw that and decides to take you for a furcking ride!

Okuda:
you stup.id nigerians are so mentally bound to your slave masters that even your right you beg for it. why dont you furcking take them to court? why are you begging for sympathy from nigerians? if them no fit pay you na we wan beg them to pay you? if you are doing image damage let us know so we know how to support you but coming here to beg for pity and synpathy in a subtle way from God knows where.. you need to get the furck out of here. imagine saying you dont habe business with their legal team say na accounting team. pieces of shit. i can see why they are even doing you guys like trash! no business confidence. im sure your predator already saw that and decides to take you for a furcking ride!

Please calm down sir.You don't need to insult a people that perhaps include your parents, uncles etc because you consider yourself better than them. No human being is better than the other, the difference is just in the opportunities we are privileged to have and take in life. Please don't be proud because pride goes before a fall.
We are decent people not unreasonable. We don't fantasize that the Nigeria of our dreams is going to fall on our laps or write just for write sake. To destroy is easy but not everyone can build. We respect the sacrifice made by the founders of First Bank and a few upright people still in the institution and that's why we know that we owe the organisation to decently insist they do the right thing. If you have been a bit more patient, you would have realised that our plea is legitimate and we are not arrogant. You are abusing the privilege of the annonymity the platform has given you when you write this incoherently with a lot of swear words but we assume you can't be like this in real life and be as relatively successful as you are.
The issue is very simple, we worked and didn't get paid, to get the remedy for it, confrontational approach or swearing at those who terrorize you is cheap. Begging them to see reason is a fair and matured way to protect them from the severe consequence of acting like Pharaoh.It is not a sign of weakness.
We will beg Jide Aboderin, Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney, Mr Adeduntan and all of top management of FBN, all of them , to do the right thing before they destroy the legacy of their founders and it's within our right to do so.
Thank you for your feedback though. We pride ourselves as patriotic citizens of this country and will do our best to lift the banner of Nigeria.

xtremecr8:
Please calm down sir.You don't need to insult a people that perhaps include your parents, uncles etc because you consider yourself better than them. No human being is better than the other, the difference is just in the opportunities we are privileged to have and take in life. Please don't be proud because pride goes before a fall.
We are decent people not unreasonable. We don't fantasize that the Nigeria of our dreams is going to fall on our laps or write just for write sake. To destroy is easy but not everyone can build. We respect the sacrifice made by the founders of First Bank and a few upright people still in the institution and that's why we know that we owe the organisation to decently insist they do the right thing. If you have been a bit more patient, you would have realised that our plea is legitimate and we are not arrogant. You are abusing the privilege of the annonymity the platform has given you when you write this incoherently with a lot of swear words but we assume you can't be like this in real life and be as relatively successful as you are.
The issue is very simple, we worked and didn't get paid, to get the remedy for it, confrontational approach or swearing at those who terrorize you is cheap. Begging them to see reason is a fair and matured way to protect them from the severe consequence of acting like Pharaoh.It is not a sign of weakness.
We will beg Jide Aboderin, Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney, Mr Adeduntan and all of top management of FBN, all of them , to do the right thing before they destroy the legacy of their founders and it's within our right to do so.
Thank you for your feedback though. We pride ourselves as patriotic citizens of this country and will do our best to lift the banner of Nigeria.

So what's stopping you from taking them to court?

Oh don't tell me you are doing this to save your relationship with them. As far as am concerned, this relationship is already truncated the moment you come to this forum to expose their brand.

I am somehow tilted towards FBN. I still haven't seen actions from you...I feel something is missing here.

Mind you I have a tech startup too.. And my dream is to work with brands like fbn.

There is court of Industries..or something like that. Do the right thing. God will crown your effort

hotwax:
So what's stopping you from taking them to court?

Oh don't tell me you are doing this to save your relationship with them. As far as am concerned, this relationship is already truncated the moment you come to this forum to expose their brand.

I am somehow tilted towards FBN. I still haven't seen actions from you...I feel something is missing here.

Mind you I have a tech startup too.. And my dream is to work with brands like fbn.

There is court of Industries..or something like that. Do the right thing. God will crown your effort

We already addressed those concerns in this thread and videos including the video of our interview conducted by Saharareporters. Please kindly go through sir.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RKuP3nzXew

Thank you for the prayers. We say Amen and may God give you phenomenal breakthrough with big brands that won't kill small brands.
Here's a letter we just served the Director of the Nigerian Stock Exchange yesterday. Honestly, we don't think we will ever work with First Bank Plc again. The relationship has been that of a big brand wanting to crush and annihilate us as a small brand. Seems everything require you to be highly connected like the Mr Jide Aboderins.
Sir, getting the job on merit, doing the job great and delivering at great time doesn't mean you will get paid for the job if we go by our own experience with FIRST Bank .

hotwax:
So what's stopping you from taking them to court?

Oh don't tell me you are doing this to save your relationship with them. As far as am concerned, this relationship is already truncated the moment you come to this forum to expose their brand.

I am somehow tilted towards FBN. I still haven't seen actions from you...I feel something is missing here.

Mind you I have a tech startup too.. And my dream is to work with brands like fbn.

There is court of Industries..or something like that. Do the right thing. God will crown your effort

You are talking as if it is not this same Nigeria we are all in.
It's easy for us all to advice them to go court, but unless you have been living under a rock, you will know that the Nigeria judicial system is pure shit, especially towards the common man, to the extent that if they are even able to hold their own in court, pay lawyers for years, it is their grandchildren that will collect whatever they might win. And that's after so many adjournments, taking to various higher court after each win (assuming they win), etc.

They are in a very tight spot no doubt. But one thing you rightly said though is that story still doesn't seem complete.

Working with a power house like FBN will mostly involve contract, invoice (even if it is Proforma invoice), etc. No matter how small a company you are.

These are things that would guarantee you get paid. These are things if you have, you won't be afraid to go see the legal team.

So really, I just don't know what to say about the whole thing.

P.S: @xtremecr8 it will be nice if you show like a process of making the logo. From idea stage, paper scribble, first draft etc.

glowskillz:
You are talking as if it is not this same Nigeria we are all in.
It's easy for us all to advice them to go court, but unless you have been living under a rock, you will know that the Nigeria judicial system is pure shit, especially towards the common man, to the extent that if they are even able to hold their own in court, pay lawyers for years, it is their grandchildren that will collect whatever they might win. And that's after so many adjournments, taking to various higher court after each win (assuming they win), etc.

They are in a very tight spot no doubt. But one thing you rightly said though is that story still doesn't seem complete.

Working with a power house like FBN will mostly involve contract, invoice (even if it is Proforma invoice), etc. No matter how small a company you are.

These are things that would guarantee you get paid. These are things if you have, you won't be afraid to go see the legal team.

So really, I just don't know what to say about the whole thing.

P.S: @xtremecr8 it will be nice if you show like a process of making the logo. From idea stage, paper scribble, first draft etc.

There's nothing hidden under the sun sir. We were victim of a system that allows people who take decisions on behalf of big brands to take advantage of the small brands by cheating them.
We didn't sign out the intellectual property to the logo we created. No contract or any document anywhere in the world will allow you to take someone's hardwork for free if he has not given it to you. They would have paid us if we were related to anyone of them sir.

xtremecr8:
The Director General,
Nigeria Stock Exchange Plc,
Marina,
Lagos.
Attention: ONYEAMA, Oscar(Mr)

Dear sir

How The Failure of First Bank To pay us for designing Their 125th Year Logo Can Harm The Investors, Investing Public and Their Rumoured Merger/Acquisition: *A call for your quick intervention.


Congratulations on the successful demutualization of the exchange sir.

Above subject matter refers.

Who we are:
We are xtremecr8tivity.An indigenous small sized Nigerian company.

What we do:

Our True Passion.We are experts in creativity, our true passion lies in using the brightest ideas to strategically connect brands.

*Our Plea:*
That first bank pays us our bill for creating their 125th Anniversary logo.



Our Campaign:
We beg and solicit for your support to help us beg the big brand First Bank to pay us. We call first bank out over its insistence not to pay us for their 125th Anniversary logo we designed after effort to make them see reason has failed ostensibly frustrated by Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney and other top management.
First Bank Plc. breached our Intellectual property rights and wants to get away with it. 

Steps taken so far?
After several attempts to make the management of first bank plc see reason to pay us for designing their 125th Year anniversary logo, we got constrained to take them to the court of public opinion which had been greeted with threat by Nigerians to move their bank accounts from first bank in reprisal for the unfair ill treatment shown to us occassioning a growing concern about the ethics of such a company listed on your premium board.

For example on www.nairaland.com, as at Sunday, 16 March,2020, for our campaign,we have the following analytics:

LOL
You can go to NSE but you can’t visit First bank legal department? Neither can you go to court?

Anyway from a legal point of view nothing will come out of your NSE action this is because this isn’t a shareholder - company dispute
You are wasting time and resources doing the wrong thing

It’s unfortunate that you don’t listen to good advice, we be here to tell you “we told you so” when you run out of money

tee10:
I don’t think he wants our advice, his motives are different. I’m certain of one thing this thrend will a achieve next too nothing other than noice

tee10:
LOL
You can go to NSE but you can’t visit First bank legal department? Neither can you go to court?

Anyway from a legal point of view nothing will come out of your NSE action this is because this isn’t a shareholder - company dispute
You are wasting time and resources doing the wrong thing

It’s unfortunate that you don’t listen to good advice, we be here to tell you “we told you so” when you run out of money

Thank you for trolling us sir. To you it's very funny but when it comes back to haunt you in real life, when you work hard and don't get paid, you may remember this day and how you mocked us. It was when you first mocked us that Saharareporters invited us for an interview, you have mocked us again and our cry has reached the ear of another very fair minded organisation. You're pushing us to get favour from even places we never thought possible.
You seem to have a very convenient response on behalf of Firstbank for the NSE but we will wait just a bit to watch if NSE will be careless with an issue that will eventually diminish the investment of others in First Bank both here in Nigeria and overseas.
Nobody who participate or benefit from injustice will go unpunished.They will eventually lose all,please mark our words sir.
Please go and tell them that we will remain resolute with our legitimate demand, we will succeed in our quest and eventually become an inspiration to countless other small brands who have been bullied, mocked by online trolls for speaking up when they're cheated by deep pocket big brands.

@xtremecr8 you've gone ahead to send these letters and other correspondence to other parties and now NSE, but at no point have you attached your invoices and stated the amount first bank owes you for the work done.

Why is that a problem?

Niseed:
@xtremecr8 you've gone ahead to send these letters and other correspondence to other parties and now NSE, but at no point have you attached your invoices and stated the amount first bank owes you for the work done.

Why is that a problem?

Niseed:
How much is First Bank Owing you for this logo?

We have treated this same question you and even Mr Jide Aboderin repeated several times sir.
When we have not been paid a dime for designing the logo of big brand First for its 125th Year anniversary logo so we don't believe the issue is about invoice perhaps if except you're suggesting that First Bank is saying it has paid us which is not what Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney stated.
You should please help us ask First Bank Plc if it has paid us or if we should not be paid for designing their 125th year Anniversary logo.
Those two fundamental questions have nothing to do with invoices except if you are attempting to take us back to the script of those trolls ,PR agents,Top bloggers.
We have stated why NSE needs to protect the investment of investors in First Bank before it is too late.
You may watch our saharareporters interview again sir.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RKuP3nzXew

But that's not the question I asked Sir, we have established that you haven't been paid for the logo....yes?

My question is did you invoice them? It seems to me that you didn't, hence the reason why you cant provide an answer.

As much as I sympathize with your plight and hope you get paid for your labour but it looks like you want to charge in retrospect.

How do you get paid for a job when no figure was attached or invoiced in the first place?

What is the value placed on this job? You have every right to seek compensation since they used it without without signing off from you (which is where you have them by the balls) but surely even you understand that you need legal counsel for this.

Niseed:
But that's not the question I asked Sir, we have established that you haven't been paid for the logo....yes?

My question is did you invoice them? It seems to me that you didn't, hence the reason why you cant provide an answer.

As much as I sympathize with your plight and hope you get paid for your labour but it looks like you want to charge in retrospect.

How do you get paid for a job when no figure was attached or invoiced in the first place?

What is the value placed on this job? You have every right to seek compensation since they used it without without signing off from you (which is where you have them by the balls) but surely even you understand that you need legal counsel for this.

Thank you so very much for your lucid explanation and we believe you are truly sincere in your enquiry.
Sir, FBN was appropriately invoiced and we have not billed in retrospect.We sufficiently addressed all this in the Saharareporters interview sir.
Please kindly watch the interview from the beginning to the end. You will see the sequence of events that will eventually point to you when and how the illegal use of our IP was disingenuously perpetuated by FBN. They did it and want to get away with it.
We clearly followed through all the right processes sir.
Please watch the video patiently sir

xtremecr8:
Please calm down sir.You don't need to insult a people that perhaps include your parents, uncles etc because you consider yourself better than them. No human being is better than the other, the difference is just in the opportunities we are privileged to have and take in life. Please don't be proud because pride goes before a fall.
We are decent people not unreasonable. We don't fantasize that the Nigeria of our dreams is going to fall on our laps or write just for write sake. To destroy is easy but not everyone can build. We respect the sacrifice made by the founders of First Bank and a few upright people still in the institution and that's why we know that we owe the organisation to decently insist they do the right thing. If you have been a bit more patient, you would have realised that our plea is legitimate and we are not arrogant. You are abusing the privilege of the annonymity the platform has given you when you write this incoherently with a lot of swear words but we assume you can't be like this in real life and be as relatively successful as you are.
The issue is very simple, we worked and didn't get paid, to get the remedy for it, confrontational approach or swearing at those who terrorize you is cheap. Begging them to see reason is a fair and matured way to protect them from the severe consequence of acting like Pharaoh.It is not a sign of weakness.
We will beg Jide Aboderin, Mrs Folake Ani-Mumuney, Mr Adeduntan and all of top management of FBN, all of them , to do the right thing before they destroy the legacy of their founders and it's within our right to do so.
Thank you for your feedback though. We pride ourselves as patriotic citizens of this country and will do our best to lift the banner of Nigeria.

another piece of trash. i wish i read past the first two lines. enjoy your slavery and slavery/begging mentality

xtremecr8:
Thank you for trolling us sir. To you it's very funny but when it comes back to haunt you in real life, when you work hard and don't get paid, you may remember this day and how you mocked us. It was when you first mocked us that Saharareporters invited us for an interview, you have mocked us again and our cry has reached the ear of another very fair minded organisation. You're pushing us to get favour from even places we never thought possible.
You seem to have a very convenient response on behalf of Firstbank for the NSE but we will wait just a bit to watch if NSE will be careless with an issue that will eventually diminish the investment of others in First Bank both here in Nigeria and overseas.
Nobody who participate or benefit from injustice will go unpunished.They will eventually lose all,please mark our words sir.
Please go and tell them that we will remain resolute with our legitimate demand, we will succeed in our quest and eventually become an inspiration to countless other small brands who have been bullied, mocked by online trolls for speaking up when they're cheated by deep pocket big brands.

NSE will throw your petition into the dustbin, become they do not have the legal powers to do what you are asking them.

You are asking NSE to preform the functions of a law court

Now you can go ahead and write Securities and Exchange Commission too, it still amounts to wasting your time. Go read about the Ansbury vs Oando ownership tussle

You are killing your own brand here and not First bank, while burning your money too...keep it up

Remember I told you so when you go bankrupt