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is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Vega100: 11:34am On Mar 20, 2020 |
So I have kept telling people, you can choose to worship anything, or profess any faith you choose, that's fine, but one thing we all have to accept and appreciate is a single truth; all those are for self gratification and to gladen yourselves, but in the real world those exercises holds absolutely no place, it doesn't in anyway determine nor does it change the course of events... An appropriate anecdote to further entrench my opinion is the recent happenings on the world stage, viz a viz the Corona virus pandemic. It is no longer news the world is currently on a standstill, with economic, social , educational and even religious activities all grounded... If we did believe all those spiritual activities (as most folks call them) determine the course of events and chart the course ultimately determining what happens in the temporal world, it should follow or perhaps logical to think that Churches, Mosques etc would not all be closed, neither would the Muslims most sacrosanct holyland Mecca be closed, nor would their Hajj be called off. All prayers in Iran currently called off and people are counselled to stay at their homes and pray https://time.com/5796035/coronavirus-saudi-arabia-iran-islam-mecca/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/28/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/saudi-halt-muslim-pilgrimage-virus-brings-global-dismay/#.XnSU4NbTVoo On the other end, the Vatican (Christains most holy land, the sanctum sanctorum of the papacy), wasn't left out , as mass gatherings have all been halted, and for the first time easter gathering has been called off, all events called off and sermons being delivered via visual media channels, and people being encouraged to do their activities from home, tune to media channels. https://nationalpost.com/news/world/italy-rome-vatican-outbreak-coronavirus Back home here, we are not left out, as legislations are underway to ban public gatherings particularly religious gatherings of more than 50 persons https://qz.com/africa/1821361/coronavirus-lagos-nigeria-shuts-schools-ban-public-gatherings/ What this demonstrates I believe is a universal truth, that in the real world all this prayers and religious activities we all practise is just a simple exercise to help gratify your minds, keep minds working and hopes alive (especially in a hopeless country like Nigeria, saddled in endless despair) , but in the real world they hold absolutely no place and doesn't in anyway determine or change the course of events, events play out based on the individual and collective practical, objective and pragmatic effort we all put to make things work. It has nothing to do with prayers and other futile religious exercises. N/B: A food for thought, I believe will make objective minds reflect within ourselves and understand some basic truth that the world revolves around, I do not expect this to make bland fanatics reason like sane people though, it never happens!!! .. Yours truly, Vega 100. 18 Likes 1 Share |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by mmsen: 12:30pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
You told no lies but religion has nothing to do with truth, logic, reason or evidence. It is about people electing to ignore the above as a tonic for day-to-day life. Most religious people cannot admit to being drug users but that is what they are. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by CAPSLOCKED: 1:29pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
The numbers are growing. Slowly, we'll wipe bullshit from the earth's surface. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Bacteriologist(m): 1:35pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
Will they listen? Religion is a cop out. No system depends on mass deceit and dishonestly like religion does. Coronavirus has come to humble all world religions. You can choose what to believe but you cannot choose your facts. We have put this in the face of theists time and time again but they won't see it. The fact remains that superstition cannot solve real life issues and times like these reveal it. 9 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Dantedasz(m): 2:10pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
None of the yearly pastors forecasts called predictions were able to forsee the closing down of world economies by the Corona virus! None of the spellbinding and miracle touting men of God has been able to cure one case of Corona virus. This pandemic is a true test of religion. Cure one person suffering from virus,after all some of them have claimed to raise up dead people and grow amputated limbs. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by KaBabs1: 2:34pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
Unfortunately, it'll take years before the average religious person in this country and in the rest of the world to see the light. I remember having a convo with my brother earlier in January about how this is the popular pastor that was jailed by the Chinese government back in December, Wang Yi's window to prove them wrong about the Christian God's supremacy over all powers, principalities and diseases. If our current world really works as it were described in the Bible, this pandemic is the perfect opportunity to convince the whole world to turn to Christianity. But as usual, God will cower in his cloak of invisibility and watch the scientists save the world as they've been doing since time immemorial. 13 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Vega100: 3:22pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:When knowledgeable people talk, u can sense it miles away!!! You are a sage bro!!! This is as apt as I could have asked!!! Quote of the day "you can choose what to believe but you cannot choose your facts" "superstition cannot solve real life issues,and time like this reveal them" ... Well done bro, remain blessed, we need intelligentsia like this, to make Nigeria move forward.. well done. Mr vega100 5 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Vega100: 3:26pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
Dantedasz:hahahahahah Pope wanted to try it by praying with some persons, few days afterwards he came down with flu symptoms... he was lucky he tested negative, afterwards the pontiff commence mass on TV, hahahah |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Vega100: 3:28pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
KaBabs1:invisible daddy!!! Lalasticlala... please I need wider opinion on this please. |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by shadeyinka(m): 4:43pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
Vega100:I don't understand how some people can be so myopic. There are two separate laws that govern the universe. The physical laws, and the spiritual laws. Spiritual laws will not quench your physical thirst and hunger for food no matter how spiritual you are. And no matter how rich you are, it doesn't absolve you from spiritual consequences. Corona virus is physical and unless the physical laws are broken, it would require a physical solution |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by OtemAtum: 5:51pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
When I started declaring my mission and also the mission of nature to fizzle out religion and make it appear microscopic back in 2016, some people were thinking that I was mad. But now I can tell you without exaggerations that this Corona Virus occurrence has helped millions of people lose their faith already. When I Otem began this Otemic journey, a friend of mine laugh at me and believe the pastors and Reverend fathers of Nigeria above the truth I was fishing out raw. But now, fast forward to four years later, he is the one now criticizing religion more than myself. He has even gone abroad to see it more for himself. It's a matter of time, Shadeyinka himself will be delivered from the shackles of religion 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Vega100: 5:56pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
shadeyinka:So all the people that are barren, with HIV/Aids, amputated limbs and people with various infirmity that the so called men of God claim to heal, what do u have to comment about that? Those ain't physical right? How are those different please, educate me. 6 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by mmsen: 7:26pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Where is this 'spiritual realm'? Where is the evidence for such? 2 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by shadeyinka(m): 8:15pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
mmsen:Only a fool looks for physical evidence of softwares in a computer! |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by shadeyinka(m): 8:34pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
Vega100:I don't know about others people's claims, I can only speak of myself and what I know 1. The sole essence of the spiritual is not to bend/break physical laws: it is to forge a spiritual union 2. Miracles is said to occur whenever physical laws are broken/bent 3. No human being have exclusive control of spiritual powers to bend physical laws of need be. 4. Some events will not be changed no matter what you do Healings does exist and it is both done and recieved by grace. Some people are given the gift of healing even then they don't have control of who gets what and how. I agree some have turned ministry into mesmerising displays and acting which is anti-gospel. But this isn't the gospel. The gospel is a message of freedom from the virus of sin and it's eternal consequence. |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by shadeyinka(m): 8:46pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
OtemAtum:I've been delivered from the shackles of religion a long time ago! Religion is whatever men do as their attempts to please the Divine Creator/gods I do NOT subscribe to Religion and Jesus was against religionists. I preach the message of Christ: you need to have a relationship with the SOURCE and He will wipe off the VIRUS that has Contaminated you so that you could be His Perfect Creation 1 Like |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by OtemAtum: 8:56pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
shadeyinka: You never free finish Na small small sha I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE DONE THAT 5 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by shadeyinka(m): 9:30pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
OtemAtum:You've done religion without a relationship: it can be disappointing! |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by OtemAtum: 9:52pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Lol. I've said this before too. When we are losing our religions but still loving fictitious Jesus, this is what we say. But eventually, we let go fictitious Jesus and face the reality of life squarely. That time is coming. 5 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by spartan117(m): 10:04pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
OtemAtum:Any life lived without Jesus is wasted. |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by shadeyinka(m): 10:06pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
OtemAtum:Do what you will with your life, the truth is immutable and time is very patient. |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by mmsen: 10:27pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Computer software has visible code. Where is proof of this spiritual realm? 4 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:34pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
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Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by OtemAtum: 10:35pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
spartan117:If Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Steve Jobs, Pythagoras, Thomas Edison and millions of philosophers and scientists who lived their lives without Jesus and invented all the useful things of the world right now hear you say this, they will burst into "tears of laughter" in their various "heavens". So the person who invented Light Bulb and the one who invented Pythagoras Theorem have lived a wasted life while you who is not known for any great invention have lived a productive life abi? Clap for yasef ; This is the reason why Jehovah must remain in his spiritual cage, for humanity to speedily become liberated from mind slavery. Peace. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Vega100: 11:41pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
OtemAtum:shackles indeed!!! That's what it is.. 4 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Vega100: 11:45pm On Mar 20, 2020 |
OtemAtum:Very true!!! |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by kingxsamz(m): 12:33am On Mar 21, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Most illogical crap I've seen today. Don't worry, you'll see the light one day. 3 Likes |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by Nobody: 1:03am On Mar 21, 2020 |
Dantedasz:Some go talk say na because Jesus dey come. Some go talk say na because Yahweh dey vex. Some go talk say na Devil cause am But the virus no send anybody. If you no get LUCK for this matter,you go die like Christmas chicken. |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by shadeyinka(m): 2:48am On Mar 21, 2020 |
kingxsamz:I've seen the light. It's you who need the Light and freedom from spiritual blindness. |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by shadeyinka(m): 2:53am On Mar 21, 2020 |
mmsen:Computer softwares in a computer have VISIBLE codes!? Either you are perfectly ignorant or feigning one. If it does, please oblige me? 1 Like |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by onlyforchrist: 5:12am On Mar 21, 2020 |
shadeyinka: So what do you call the instructions that makes the so called softwares work? are they invincible like your god? |
Re: is this a categorical Prove Religiousness Is Vain And Impracticable? by mmsen: 6:55am On Mar 21, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Computer software has code that can be copied, verified and VIEWED. You've never seen code written in a book? Where is your proof of the spiritual realm? And why do so many of you people who claim religious belief lack integrity? 3 Likes |
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