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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:36pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

See ur ekuke drawing
I get it

Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 7:39pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:

Better. So be aware that these heavy inverters has charger inbuilt. Your kind of inverter has models with in-built chargers too.
Which heaviness u dey talk? How many kva e be
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 7:41pm On Mar 28, 2020
Moreso, is that battery u use safe
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:43pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

Which heaviness u dey talk? How many kva e be
I mean those heavy transformer based inverters
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:46pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:
Moreso, is that battery u use safe
It is for me.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ojeysky(m): 8:23pm On Mar 28, 2020
Fisher007:


There are no disadvantage really. But normally a 2.3 or 2.5kva should use two 200ah 24v battery. Some people still use two 100 ah battery but it won't last long as much as a two 200ah.

For me I use four 200ah batteries. The inverter installer interlooped the first two batteries ontop in series, then the second two batteries below in series then paralleled them altogether. That means it charges them two by two. I now still connected it to a super charger ( though it is not really necessary). But I always supercharge it once in a while to maintain the battery from ever going low.

I hope you understand or this make sense to you. Mine last for minimum 10-14 days without NEPA. Cause I don't use it for fridge or Ac or pumping machine. My total load is not even up to 400w or 500w ( few bulbs, laptop, TV, game, air coolant (once a while),phone charger ) that is all.
And most time all my appliances are not on at the same time.

My next plan is to get DC appliances, I heard that is the next way to enjoy electricity if one wants to live an OFFGRID life in Naija.

Interesting, even if you are discharging at 10A which is about 160w your 400A @24v battery bank won't last 48hrs(which is 2 days) and this assumes 80% DOD which is not even healthy for lead acid. Can you clarify how many hours you run daily before folks start getting motivated on 400a setup that lasts half a month. grin

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 9:02pm On Mar 28, 2020
ojeysky:


Interesting, even if you are discharging at 10A which is about 160w your 400A @24v battery bank won't last 48hrs(which is 2 days) and this assumes 80% DOD which is not even healthy for lead acid. Can you clarify how many hours you run daily before folks start getting motivated on 400a setup that lasts half a month. grin

Oga na 800ah battery on a 2.3kva microtek before was 2.5kva mercury and trust me mine last for almost a week to two weeks without light.

Or may because I run it overnight and am out next morning. But there was a time when there was no light for a week or more. I never still had issues

If your batteries doesn't last more that 24-48 hours then you have a bad battery or your inverter dey drain light .

I don't carry much like I specified earlier. Mainly lighting port and socket . My air coolant is not on all the time and my TV nor laptop too.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 10:00pm On Mar 28, 2020
Fisher007:


Oga na 800ah battery on a 2.3kva microtek before was 2.5kva mercury and trust me mine last for almost a week to two weeks without light.

Or may because I run it overnight and am out next morning. But there was a time when there was no light for a week or more. I never still had issues

If your batteries doesn't last more that 24-48 hours then you have a bad battery or your inverter dey drain light .

I don't carry much like I specified earlier. Mainly lighting port and socket . My air coolant is not on all the time and my TV nor laptop too.
4 x 200ah batteries could be 800ah @ 12v , 400ah @ 24v or 200ah @ 48v.

By your 2.5kva inverter, it should be a 24v 400ah. it still not adding up to your stated time.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ojeysky(m): 10:16pm On Mar 28, 2020
Fisher007:


Oga na 800ah battery on a 2.3kva microtek before was 2.5kva mercury and trust me mine last for almost a week to two weeks without light.

Or may because I run it overnight and am out next morning. But there was a time when there was no light for a week or more. I never still had issues

If your batteries doesn't last more that 24-48 hours then you have a bad battery or your inverter dey drain light .

I don't carry much like I specified earlier. Mainly lighting port and socket . My air coolant is not on all the time and my TV nor laptop too.

So you have 8 200Ah batteries ran in 2s4p since your inverter is 24v? Or are you using a 12v inverter? In both scenario unless your load is 50w it won't last (24hrs X 7 days). I think the times you are away (assuming you are not using your inverter during that period) should not be counted. Enjoy!
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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 10:31pm On Mar 28, 2020
ojeysky:


So you have 8 200Ah batteries ran in 2s4p since your inverter is 24v? Or are you using a 12v inverter? In both scenario unless your load is 50w it won't last (24hrs X 7 days). I think the times you are away (assuming you are not using your inverter during that period) should not be counted. Enjoy!

Ok I guess the time am away. But still, I run it overnight from 7pm to 7:30 am during the power shortage that lasted for almost a week and had no problem.

Well it works well for me. I still can't believe that an inverter can't last more than 48hrs or 72hrs if well charged .
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 10:34pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:

4 x 200ah batteries could be 800ah @ 12v , 400ah @ 24v or 200ah @ 48v.

By your 2.5kva inverter, it should be a 24v 400ah. it still not adding up to your stated time.

Ok mine works fine for me. You should probably charge yours well or change the batteries. Or use a super charger to boost or charge your batteries.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ojeysky(m): 10:38pm On Mar 28, 2020
Fisher007:


Ok I guess the time am away. But still, I run it overnight from 7pm to 7:30 am during the power shortage that lasted for almost a week and had no problem.

Well it works well for me. I still can't believe that an inverter can't last more than 48hrs or 72hrs if well charged .

It's not the inverter but your load. My average load is about 170w from 6pm to 7am and that cost me about 120A of battery bank storage.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 10:38pm On Mar 28, 2020
Fisher007:


Ok mine works fine for me. You should probably charge yours well or change the batteries. Or use a super charger to boost or charge your batteries.
yeah. okay.

My battery works very well and it's not lead acid.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 10:40pm On Mar 28, 2020
ojeysky:


It's not the inverter but your load. My average load is about 170w from 6pm to 7am and that cost me about 120A of battery bank storage.

How many batteries and what inverter if I may ask?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by JaySterling: 12:43am On Mar 29, 2020
Fisher007:


There are no disadvantage really. But normally a 2.3 or 2.5kva should use two 200ah 24v battery. Some people still use two 100 ah battery but it won't last long as much as a two 200ah.

For me I use four 200ah batteries. The inverter installer interlooped the first two batteries ontop in series, then the second two batteries below in series then paralleled them altogether. That means it charges them two by two. I now still connected it to a super charger ( though it is not really necessary). But I always supercharge it once in a while to maintain the battery from ever going low.

I hope you understand or this make sense to you. Mine last for minimum 10-14 days without NEPA. Cause I don't use it for fridge or Ac or pumping machine. My total load is not even up to 400w or 500w ( few bulbs, laptop, TV, game, air coolant (once a while),phone charger ) that is all.
And most time all my appliances are not on at the same time.

My next plan is to get DC appliances, I heard that is the next way to enjoy electricity if one wants to live an OFFGRID life in Naija.
1. Which brand of batteries are you using?

2. Since your inverter has an inbuilt charger, what is the need of connecting an external charger again ?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by JaySterling: 6:52am On Mar 29, 2020
Hey guys, I’m new to this

How will I know when my inverter battery is full?

I charge with solar panels and Nepa too.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ojeysky(m): 7:41am On Mar 29, 2020
Fisher007:


How many batteries and what inverter if I may ask?


200AH Lifepo4 with felicity or MPP GK inverter
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 7:57am On Mar 29, 2020
JaySterling:
1. Which brand of batteries are you using?

2. Since your inverter has an inbuilt charger, what is the need of connecting an external charger again ?

Brand of batteries - I use four 200ah Genos batteries.

Yes it is true inverters have inbuilt charger, but in most cases, they never charge it well. Most times your batteries go low and to bring it back up with normal inbuilt charger is not attainable.

Haven't you heard of cases where the inverter batteries seller will tell you they need to supercharge your batteries so that it can attain back it optimal use ?

Although most of them will just tell you, your batteries are dead or bad. Lol They probably supercharge it or resell it sha.

And by the way, the supercharger is connected with the inverter and the batteries directly. It is not separate.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 8:00am On Mar 29, 2020
ojeysky:


200AH Lifepo4 with felicity or MPP GK inverter

Ok no probs. Ask them if they can supercharge the batteries? You never can tell . Safe
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ojeysky(m): 8:07am On Mar 29, 2020
Fisher007:


Ok no probs. Ask them if they can supercharge the batteries? You never can tell . Safe

Lol, there is noting wrong with my charging and I don't understand the supercharging that folks are saying. My battery saps the hell out of my charging system which has a max charging capacity of 60A. It's super enough for me grin
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ojeysky(m): 8:09am On Mar 29, 2020
Fisher007:


Brand of batteries - I use four 200ah Genos batteries.

Yes it is true inverters have inbuilt charger, but in most cases, they never charge it well. Most times your batteries go low and to bring it back up with normal inbuilt charger is not attainable.

Haven't you heard of cases where the inverter batteries seller will tell you they need to supercharge your batteries so that it can attain back it optimal use ?

Although most of them will just tell you, your batteries are dead or bad. Lol They probably supercharge it or resell it sha.

And by the way, the supercharger is connected with the inverter and the batteries directly. It is not separate.

How long have you been using your batteries with the "super charge" set-up?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by saint2ace(m): 8:31am On Mar 29, 2020
Fisher007:


Brand of batteries - I use four 200ah Genos batteries.

Yes it is true inverters have inbuilt charger, but in most cases, they never charge it well. Most times your batteries go low and to bring it back up with normal inbuilt charger is not attainable.

Haven't you heard of cases where the inverter batteries seller will tell you they need to supercharge your batteries so that it can attain back it optimal use ?

Although most of them will just tell you, your batteries are dead or bad. Lol They probably supercharge it or resell it sha.

And by the way, the supercharger is connected with the inverter and the batteries directly. It is not separate.

Can we see a pics of Ur setup especially Ur charger. Thanks

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 8:56am On Mar 29, 2020
ojeysky:


How long have you been using your batteries with the "super charge" set-up?

Almost 2yrs. It is even dusty. Lol
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 9:04am On Mar 29, 2020
saint2ace:


Can we see a pics of Ur setup especially Ur charger. Thanks

Ok here it is. Una wan give me work for this convid19 lockdown. It is dusty though. Here is the pic of the super charger, battery and setup. undecided wink I had to remove the cover and the super charger from the electric port.
If it makes sense to you. I am not the installer though.

Before person go Qoute me as liar LMAO grin

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by saint2ace(m): 9:13am On Mar 29, 2020
Fisher007:


Ok here it is. Una wan give me work for this convid19 lockdown. It is dusty though. Here is the pic of the super charger, battery and setup. undecided wink I had to remove the cover and the super charger from the electric port.
If it makes sense to you. I am not the installer though.

Before person go Qoute me as liar LMAO grin

Lolz, not to worry I understand the connection. Unfortunately the name of the charger is in Chinese. Thanks for the effort bro, much appreciated

Modified: Ran a quick check on AliExpress using the picture u sent and what I found is a 10A 12v/24v mini charger. Is this what charges Ur battery? And if so how long does it take to charge? Sorry for the plenty questions
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ojeysky(m): 9:27am On Mar 29, 2020
Fisher007:


Almost 2yrs. It is even dusty. Lol

Okay plan for a replacement in near future unless you've been discharging below 50%
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 9:34am On Mar 29, 2020
ojeysky:


It's not the inverter but your load. My average load is about 170w from 6pm to 7am and that cost me about 120A of battery bank storage.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 9:35am On Mar 29, 2020
ojeysky:


Okay plan for a replacement in near future unless you've but be discharging below 50%

Hmm I don't on the supercharger all the time though. I on it probably once or twice per week. And with the current NEPA light in Naija, I am sure it discharge by 50%, I think . Lol

Thanks for the advice though.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 9:37am On Mar 29, 2020
Fisher007:


Ok here it is. Una wan give me work for this convid19 lockdown. It is dusty though. Here is the pic of the super charger, battery and setup. undecided wink I had to remove the cover and the super charger from the electric port.
If it makes sense to you. I am not the installer though.

Before person go Qoute me as liar LMAO grin
ewizard1. U see say this guy too dey use external charger. Abi ur own na UPS ni
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 9:38am On Mar 29, 2020
saint2ace:


Lolz, not to worry I understand the connection. Unfortunately the name of the charger is in Chinese. Thanks for the effort bro, much appreciated

Modified: Ran a quick check on AliExpress using the picture u sent and what I found is a 10A 12v/24v mini charger. Is this what charges Ur battery? And if so how long does it take to charge? Sorry for the plenty questions

Yes I guess that is it, I am not sure about the 10a. Although I switched it to the 24v instead of the 12v. It takes almost 30mins to 1hr at times with the super charger, depending on how low the batteries are. It shows full and makes a noise to indicate it is completely charged.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 9:46am On Mar 29, 2020
Timileyin1234:

ewizard1. U see say this guy too dey use external charger. Abi ur own na UPS ni

He might have a good inverter. But the same things keep happening to most people, like my friends. They all start complaining after 8month that their batteries are messed up. I keep telling them to get and use supercharger but we all need to learn after an expensive repair or damage. Lol

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