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Justright34:
Your contribution is appreciated but can you pinpoint where does hatred or bitterness emanated from as regarding the purpose of this tread ?


Must you always teach the doctrine with hatred and bitterness ?



According to your emphasis, you mean Jesus is the word of God and the word of God is Jesus therefore Jesus is the Son of God ?


But do you ever consider the first commandment that Jesus was talking about in the Bible that God is One ?

Mark 12:29, KJV: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Jesus reinstate on the verse above that the only true God have sent him as messenger and not that God comes to the world as flesh himself


John 7:28

Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, "Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own authority, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him,

He said he is not on earth on his own authority but God sent him as messenger and not as another God in flesh


John 8:42
Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.


The above verse nailed it all that Jesus is a messenger sent by God just as He sent other prophets as well


So why the Trinity ?
Why as Son of God why other messengers not sond of God ?

If Adam has no father and no mother and not being regarded as son of God but Jesus who has no Father but has mother regarded as son to God ?

Because he was born in a mysterious way without a father ?

All the verses above stated vividly that Jesus is sent by God as messenger to Israel just as God sent other prophets

As word ?
As son of God ?
As God ?
As Lord ?


Is that the reason some Christians have image of some white actors and refer to the person on the poster as Jesus therefore bow to the image as Jesus ?



Thanks do your educative response in advance

AntiChristian:
I know you score "A" in abuse and cursing the Prophet of Islam and Muslims. Clarify the questions and stop the diversion!

However your exegesis of your Bible is "F". Try and answer the questions posed!

A. What does ''logos" mean?

B. How is Jesus Christ a lexical definition of "logos"?

C. How can "logos" mean Jesus Christ in only 7 out of over 300 instances in the NT.

D. Examples of "logo" include:

Any good Greek lexicon will also show this wide range of meaning (the words in italics are translated from logos):

1. Logos mean speaking; words you say (Rom. 15:18, “what I have said and done”).

2. Logos mean a statement you make (Luke 20:20 – (NASB), “they might catch him in some statement).

3. Logos mean a question (Matt. 21:24, “I will also ask you one question”).

4. Logos mean preaching (1 Tim. 5:17, “especially those whose work is preaching and teaching).

5. Logos mean command (Gal. 5:14, “the entire law is summed up in a single command”).

6. Logos mean proverb; saying (John 4:37, “thus the saying, ‘One sows, and another reaps’”).

7. Logos mean message; instruction; proclamation (Luke 4:32, “his message had authority”).

8. Logos mean assertion; declaration; teaching (John 6:60, “this is a hard teaching”).

9. Logos mean the subject under discussion; matter (Acts 8:21, “you have no part or share in this ministry.” Acts 15:6 (NASB), “And the apostles… came together to look into this matter”).

10. Logos mean revelation from God (Matt. 15:6, “you nullify the Word of God ”).

11. Logos mean God’s revelation spoken by His servants (Heb. 13:7, “leaders who spoke the Word of God”).

12. Logos mean a reckoning, an account (Matt. 12:36, “men will have to give account” on the day of judgment).

13. Logos mean an account or “matter” in a financial sense (Matt. 18:23, A king who wanted to settle “accounts” with his servants. Phil. 4:15, “the matter of giving and receiving”).

14. Logos means a reason; motive (Acts 10:29 – NASB), “I ask for what reason you have sent for me”).

BlowYourMind:
Blindness, extremism, hatred, bitterness, terrorism, strives, heresy, quarrelsome, pedophilia, gigolo,incest, enslavement, "Allah is great" Allahu Akbar

sagenaija:
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See what his hearers understood him to have said:
John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
Also:
John 17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began".

sagenaija:
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Sometimes comprehension is difficult if one skims over a writeup.

In John 19:36  What are the Jews referring to by accusing Jesus of blasphemy? And what did Jesus mean by saying "because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?"

In John 17:24 what is 'glory'? And if Jesus had it "before the creation of the world" what does that mean?

Maybe your answers will clear things for me.

sagenaija:
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You appear to have not clearly got my questions. Let me clarify them:
1. The Jews may have cooked up a FALSE ALLEGATION of blasphemy against Jesus. What EXACTLY did they mean by blasphemy?

2. What did Jesus mean by saying "because I said, 'I am the Son of God?'"

3. What is glory?

4. What does it mean for Jesus to have had it "before the creation of the world"? (Note: I was not asking who gave him the glory).

sagenaija:
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Thank you for your WONDERFUL answers!

It has given me an insight into how you fared in your academics.

Cheers!

sagenaija:
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I make you laugh....
... have been dodgy
Proved to be a "very nice teacher"
Who refused to supply 'expo' to his student.

Meanwhile, the 'student' is schooling the "very nice teacher".
The 'student' is asked a SPECIFIC questions but goes off in a tangent.

With all these above what can the "very nice teacher" Do but to congratulate the 'student' for his excellent insights?

Janosky:
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Receive sense.

sagenaija:
I asked simple questions. The least you could have done was to directly address them.

The Jews answered Him, “We are not going to stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, because You, a mere man, make Yourself out to be God.”
John 10:33 AMP

The above was the BLASPHEMY the Jews accused Jesus of. The passage directly addressed it. There is NO NEED to go anywhere else.

A man can adopt a child and call him 'my son' even though he is not his biological offspring. The term denotes a RELATIONSHIP. Jesus's use of the term 'Son of God' denote the relationship he has with God. Note: Relationship.

Janosky:
the same LIE wey the Jews made against Jesus (John 19:6-7), you dey repeat the lie to support your FALSE claim that Jesus is God Almighty. .

John 20:17,
Jesus Christ says
"I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to your God and my God",
Jesus is "the first born of every creature" of his Father in heaven and earth.
He is the beginning of the creation by God"
Rev 3:5,11-14,21.
Jesus NEVER said his Father adopted him.....

Angels have BEAUTY,PERFECTION etc, which Jesus Christ had before creation of the world.
Going by your personal opinions, every angel is God..
No need to import Sagenaija personal misinterpretation into the holy Scriptures.