₦airaland Forum

scholes0:
My personal observation of Ebiras tao (Minus the Ebira Koto and Opanda)

Naajjii:
Are you from the Osu Caste Nyamiri

Nowenuse:
Thank you for your contribution.
You know I always admired your knowledge on demography and anthropology

Sorry if I am asking u a question against your ethics, but please in your own opinion, I want you to estimate the religious percentage of Ilorin, Kwara south and Kwara state as a whole.

I have been to many towns and parts of Kwara. And from my estimates, Kwara state is like 60% Muslim and 40% Christian, while Kwara south is like 60% Christian to me.

I said Ilorin is either 50-50 or at least 60% muslim ..... Do you believe muslims are more than 60% in Ilorin?

I moved round Ilorin and I could see that the old city center was overwhelmingly muslim, however the Eastern half of the city (where you have Unilorin) had all it's suburbs either Christian dominated or a sort of 50-50. Same with the Southwestern half of the city (i.e the suburbs south of the old city).

Google maps also confirmed my observation!

So, I'd like to get your opinion.

For Offa, I agree that Offa is muslim majority, but I think it is like 60%. You said Kolaaderin was not saying the truth about Offa, so what then is it in your opinion?

Offa is an Ibolo town and from my observation, majority of Ibolo people are muslims, but it is like a 60-40, while Igbomina people are the exact opposite of Ibolo people in my opinion, they are like 60% Christian and 40% muslim from my observation. While the Ekiti speaking people in Kwara south are almost entirely Christian, like 90%.

I would like to see your opinion on the religious breakdown of Kwara based on towns, ethnic & subethnic groups & senatorial district.

Thanks.

BoboNkiti19:
Go ask your useless father who is my mai guard

Naajjii:
Can you tell us more about Baby Factory ritualist in Aguleri

Nowenuse:
Thank you.

I think I know you on Facebook. Is your first name Christopher? And were you once on the forum PROUDLY ANIOMA, PROUDLY IGBO?

Not just me. Most Northern christians of my generation have grown farther apart from the core-north mentally over the years. If you put Hausa fulanis, my people and Southerners together in one place, you will see my people relate with Southerners far better than we do with Hausa fulanis.
This was not the case with the previous generations.

I was even surprised when I went to Jos, Kaduna, Adamawa e.t.c to see the strong receptiveness of my people towards Igbos. Many strongly favor us being pro Biafran
I knew it was just a matter of time for my generation to completely change the tide and direction of things.

The only problem we have is that some old idiiots like Yakubu Gowon who put us in our current predicament still dominate our socio-cultural, traditional and political space. That is why we the youth are gradually coming together to put these old idiiots where they belong.

BoboNkiti19:
I think a terrorist gworo chewing cow fuccker like your father can answer that question better

Naajjii:
Where did you get your 30%?

senatordave1:
What if you add the ones you minused

Aboki99:
Your statement that all northern ethnic minority groups have a majority xtian population is very wrong. Just one example, Kanuri, Mangawa, Bare bari, Babur, Badawa all are predominantly muslim.

Plus, if only 70% of northerners are muslims, what percentage then has muslims in the south (south west, east and south)?

It is very simple to guestimate which faith dominates in the entire country using the 8 geopol zones. Cleary the most populous zone is NW which is over 90% muslim. The second most populous zone is SW which is 60 muslim 40 xtian. The 3rd most populous zone is NE which is 80% muslim . The 4th most populous zone is NC which is 65% muslim 35% xtian. The 5th zone is SE which is 95% xtian. The least populous zone is SS which is 97% xtian. Intuit and arrive at the right conclusion. QED

TooMuchStuff:
It's a shame that all you ever know is killing and force of coercion as against democratic norms as practice worldwide. The bolded above brings out the Fulani-beast of violence in you.
What makes you think the Igbos are your only enemies in Nigeria? The OP is middlebelt for real

Efewestern:
Chief I share in your sentiments, but our destiny isn't tied to any ethnic group, everyone should run their race, stop speaking like you know what's best for everyone, the feeling of superiority or no minority can achieve anything without me is getting stale, fight your middle belt battle and leave us to ours, your constant denial of our worries speaks a lot about your person.

@bolded, while must someone be oppressed? weather by illiterates or educated people, oppression isn't what any race or ethnicity should pray for, Tired of the back and forth argument, it's meaningless and it won't change anything.

Like I have said, focus your attention on your middle belt struggle, and stop assuming you know what's best for everyone, you have no single idea, you are probably suffering from inferiority complex and religious supremacy.

Naajjii:
Ha ha Igbo man, this is how you keep spreading lies , where did you get all you just stated, imagine Ebira people that christians are not even visible you stated that outside Okene then everywhere is christians. This is the reason why i dont always enagage you with facts ,that is why i always call you out as an impostor hiding under middlebelt, just come out fully with your igbo man identity then i will engage you better but as long as you hide to create mischief i will always call you out.
In Nigeria its obvious those crying of Marginalization everyday, between CAN AND NSCIA who do you see crying of Islamisation. Have you ever seen any muslim cried of Christianisation in this Country? That sums up your minority status in Nigeria. Minority will always cry and keep crying.

Bambambiglo:
Guy leave that naajjii of a fool jare. I'm from the middle belt, Benue to be precise and I know no tribe will kill their own brother on behalf of any hausa fulani almajeri because of Islam. He's living in fantasy, we dey here dey watch, when e set we go know howfar

scholes0:
Then they might become like 75-80% Muslim.
the major population centre of Ebiras is Kogi central.

senatordave1:
Those ebiras are not in kogi central ?

senatordave1:
The op while very intelligent and sound always try to twist facts unfairly.it is a settled fact even to both apc and pdp that in kaduna and north central,bauchi and taraba,70% of Christians vote pdp while 70% of Muslims vote apc.this parameters will not favor his agenda so he tries to claim that Muslims are more involved in politics and voting even when datas says otherwise.it is not a coincidence that kaduna south peopled by xtians vote one way while kaduna north vote another way.same thing is in jos north and south.

I already told him that religious houses is not a parameter to gauge religious population

abduljabbar4:
Exactly. Even in 2015 where almost everyone in the north was against PDP, Jonathan still won in all the christian areas. His claims about Samaru has already convinced me that he is just trying to deceive himself. Nobody living would tell you that the Christians even come close to Muslims in Samaru/palladan/shika and he is here saying they are 100% christian areas.

ZKOSOSO:
Oga...my final year project study area was entire Zaria zone made up of Giwa, Chika, Samaru, Sabon gari, Zaria City, wusasa/tukurtukr/kafar doka etc..
Spent 20 weeks collecting raw data myself on people there.
Samaru, Palladan, Sabon gari/PZ, Wusasa all have very clear Christians majority howbeit settlers of Southern and Middlebelt extractions.
TudunWada down to Kongo to Zaria city, Giwa, Tukurtukr and all have very high HausaFulanis Muslims.
Chika is roughly 40:60 cos it's ABUTH effects

Nowenuse:
Well, for those who would doubt, here are 2 ways you can estimate the true strong population of Northern christians in the 19 northern states.

Godwrites

1) USING MINORITY POPULATION

Northern minority ethnic groups (all ethnic groups in the north that are not Hausa or fulani) are predominantly christian. (65-70% Christian).

And among the 19 northern states, Northern minority ethnic groups dominate 10 states (Borno, Yobe, Taraba, Adamawa, Gombe, Niger, Plateau, Nasarawa, Benue & Kogi).
Hausa fulanis dominate 6 states (Kano, Zamfara, Jigawa, Katsina, Sokoto & Kebbi).
Yorubas dominate 1 (Kwara).
While 2 others (Bauchi & Kaduna) are about a 50-50 between minority groups & Hausa fulanis.
Bauchi is actually and originally a clearly minority dominated state, but a good number of these minorities who are muslims have been Hausanized and this is why it is best said to be a 50-50.

So, Hausas & fulanis combined are actually a minority in the north, if you put all the other minority groups together.
Now, If these minority groups put together have a majority population in the north and they are predominantly Christian, this clearly confirms the strong population of Christians in the north.

Among the over 200 ethnic groups that make up Northern minorities, only Kanuris-Shuwa Arabs, Ebiras, Nupe
-Kakandas, Bariba-Busas, Boghom and less than 10 ethnic groups in Bauchi-Yobe axis are predominantly muslims.
The overwhelming majority of the other approx 200 ethnic groups are overwhelmingly Christians with a significant minority of them who are a 50-50.

So the conclusion is

'Northern minority groups outnumber Hausa fulanis in the north and these same Northern minorities are predominantly Christian'.

dokiOloye:
Many Nigerian Christians are so terribly naive when it comes to politics.ISLAM IS ESSENTIALLY A POLITICAL MOVEMENT WITH THE INTENTION OF WORLD DOMINATION.If you are a muslim and you honestly don't know this,then,you are probably among those muslims who run toward Christian dominated sabon gari when muslims start their cyclical killings in Kano.
In 2015 when muslims were telling each other that it's a religious duty to elect Buhari,naive Christians were parroting "Jonathan failed".
We can see d results today.Jonathan is not a saint but buhari can never be fit to untie his shoes when it comes to governance or being fair to everyone.
Today,same ppl are practically begging for their God given right to live,buhari has proven to be d definition of corruption yet retains a fanatical muslim fan base.
That's why I'm happy with my Igbo ppl.We easily see through the hausa Fulani muslims.Give us Lamido,Goje,Atiku,etc we'll be at ease cos those ones aren't religious supremacists.
But buhari,kwankwaso,hell rufai are from the devil,and we can never be deceived by any of them.

Nowenuse:
I usually classify most Nigerian tribes as either Christian or muslim cos most of these traditionalist either attend churches or mosques. They identify with one religion, even though they may not take it serious.

Igalas of today are clearly like 60-65% Christians.

Naajjii:
Who gave you the statistic who gave you the figure? So there no Middlebelt or whatever you call that of Muslims extraction? This is the mistake you people are making , you are making this Central Nigeria a christian thing , we the muslim north central Nigeria are watching you people. You are Majority in Plateau and Benue we are more in Niger,Kogi and Kwara then FCT and Nassarawa is evenly divided, add that to the large population of hasusa people who came from the far north to settle most have become indigence, what makes you think you are majority in Central Nigeria?

Aboki99:
Your statement that all northern ethnic minority groups have a majority xtian population is very wrong. Just one example, Kanuri, Mangawa, Bare bari, Babur, Badawa all are predominantly muslim.

Plus, if only 70% of northerners are muslims, what percentage then has muslims in the south (south west, east and south)?

It is very simple to guestimate which faith dominates in the entire country using the 8 geopol zones. Cleary the most populous zone is NW which is over 90% muslim. The second most populous zone is SW which is 60 muslim 40 xtian. The 3rd most populous zone is NE which is 80% muslim . The 4th most populous zone is NC which is 65% muslim 35% xtian. The 5th zone is SE which is 95% xtian. The least populous zone is SS which is 97% xtian. Intuit and arrive at the right conclusion. QED

Parkleader:
Most indigenous middle beltans ( excluding niger, don't know about kogi) are christians, but due to migration from core north let me leave it at 50-50, considering the fact that core northern states have more larger population than middle belts, while when considering the whole of northern region muslims should be more than 65-70%
Anyways one thing i know for sure is that more indigenous people are christians in nasarawa, but migration has made it almost 50 50 though, i stay here

Yujin:
Lol. See analysis... Muslims are minorities in Nigeria.

Naajjii:
Alot of Eggon are Pagans, it is in Central Nigeria you find the largest number of traditionalist in Nigeria but the OP always add them as christian to support his false statistic

Parkleader:
Lol, you are the one wrong, from observation i think muslims are more, you have to consider they have a very big population compare to other states, joining all the middle belt states population might only give you the population of 2-3 large populated muslim state in the north, and then large numbers of yorubas are muslims too, i didn't fact check anything yet but from observation i think muslim are more, south-south and south-east don't have a very high population too. Anyways am a Christian
But op what is the excess of this thread?

Yujin:
Lol. Whether pagans or not, as long as they're not Muslims your people will slaughter them. Everyone remembers the Baba Eggon of the Ombatse that led the flushing off of the terrorist fulani herdsmen such that Almakura, the then governor ran to Abuja for safety. Your people are vampires who live on the blood of those around them.

Nowenuse:
Thank you very much.
Karu LGA currently has over 1 million people and 90% of the people in Karu are christians.
The influence of the Christian population of Karu has already started affecting Keffi to the extent that Keffi is now something like a 50-50. In the past, Keffi had a clear muslim majority, being an old town that Hausa fulanis settled.

Karu Urban is now 4 times the size of Lafia (the state capital) and Karu LGA alone has like 25% of Nasarawa state's population. So, how come a state like Nasarawa is still having a muslim governor?

Majority of Christians in Karu urban are not indingenes of Nasarawa state, hence most of them do not vote as they feel elections are not their business.
Christians have a stronger voter apathy than Muslims (especially in a place where they feel they are settlers and have no stakes in the govt). But that is not the case with Hausa fulanis.

All of these are some of the reasons why I will fight with the last drop of my blood for a country like Nigeria to be divided and let the chaff be separated from the grains.

People like Hausa fulanis who take elections more serious than education and their well-being have absolutely no business in sharing the same country with Christians.
If we Christians continue to agree with one Nigeria, we are only digging our graves. Separation is our best option.

Naajjii:
People are talking Nyamiri is talking, all of you are slaves descendants.Inferior people, good and talk with Ibibio ,Anang and other Akwa ibom people who used you as slaves back in the days, go and settle with them first. Because am your Master in Nigeria. I will not give you Biafra you will continue to be my slave haha

Nowenuse:
Yes and very soon, this Nigeria will divide and everyone will answer his father's name.

Abuja's development is to the advantage of Middlebelt people and not Hausa fulanis.

Do you in your wildest dreams think that Hausa fulanis can claim Abuja if this country divides?

Have you forgotten what Gbagyi boys did to Hausa fulanis in Bwari town last year? Unless you are an Ebira, Nupe or Igala, then you are safe, otherwise I pity you if you are from FCT, Nasarawa e.t.c.

When this country divides, we will flush your likes out and send you to go and join Hausa fulanis in the core north.