Ayekotoo:

What! I laugh in urhobo. Check the percentage of Yorubas in Covenant, Babcock, Redeemer, Top mountain, Abuad, AL hikimot, Crawford, Crescent, Anchor, Jabu, Bowen etc compare with all other ethnics combined.

Alhikmah & Crescent are Muslim varsities, so only Yoruba, Hausa fulanis & middlebelt Muslims like Igala & Ebira muslims can drag that one with you people.

But for the Christian universities, it is impossible!

I was the one who took my younger brother to Omu-aran last year when he was resuming Landmark universitiy.

There is only one park from Warri that goes to Kwara state. Come and see the numbers of people from Warri going to Landmark.
Almost everyone in the vehicle I entered from Warri were also taking their children to Landmark! Igbos & Nigerdeltans.

If only Warri can be like this, how much more Benin, Asaba, Onitsha, Jos, Kaduna, Abuja, Ughelli, Calabar, Portharcourt e.t.c?

When I reached Landmark universitiy, I couldn't believe the number of people speaking Hausa I met with there.
Plateau people, Southern Kaduna people, Adamawa, Southern Borno people (northern christians) were all bringing their wards to Landmark. And mind u, Landmark is a new university compared to Covenant.

My friend who also went to Babcock told me the same thing.
Babcock is a seventh day Adventist school. How may Yorubas are members of Seventh day Adventist Church compared to Igbos & Northern christians?

Let's not even talk about Redeemed. Mountain top can be slightly predominantly Yoruba cos mountain of fire church is not so popular in the Middlebelt & Igbo land. Only in the SS is it very popular.

Yorubas cannot outnumber Non-Yorubas in a Pentecostal Christian university, unless that Pentecostal church is not popular in the SE/SS/Middlebelt.

Nowenuse:


Mind you, I am not an Igbo person. I am from Plateau state.

Most private universities in Nigeria are Pentecostal Christian based.

We all know that Yorubas dominate Pentecostal Christianity in Nigeria, so where do u expect all the Pentecostal varsities to be cited?

Most Middlebelt/Northern christians are orthodox Christians. Most Igbos are Catholics/Anglican. It is Nigerdeltans that have a strong Pentecostal population like Yorubas.

You guys problem is that you don't always want to give the required credit to the Yorubas. C'mon, we are minorities in the Christian faith with respect to the other tribes in Nigeria due to to the fact that the Yorubas are basically 50/50 Muslim- Christianpercentage.

SE - Maybe 95% Christian
SS- Maybe 90% Christian
NC: Maybe 50-65% Christian

Yet, the Yoruba owned churches are the lifeline of the Christian faith in Nigeria. Most of the mega-churches are Yoruba owned and the Universities are majorly those of the Yoruba people. Why are the Igbos not successful in establishing those mega-universities? Even if you say they are catholic, why don't they have those mega-institutions? Why are the SS'ner and the Middle Belt Christian not doing same?

Why is it that the Yoruba Christian are successful with all those that made those Christian from other tribe patronize their universities and churches? Doesn't that tell you something is exceptional about the Yorubas? Why not for once face reality.

You said on your other reply that the Yoruba churches/universities will collapse if those tribe leaves? You are joking right? Do you know the number of countries that Redeem and other Yoruba churches are situated? Do you know the number of churches in USA,UK, and other African countries?

You are the only people that always shout you develop people and that without you others are Nothing!! Haba!

Dtribeless:


Everything will crash with Igbos, yet, Igbos, univited, show up everywhere. If you made us, please make yourself. YEYE dey smell. Igbos have the MOST to lose if Nigeria breaks up. The Exodus will be a sight to behold.

Oga, I am not an Igbo man. Tell that to the Igbos.
As a northern Christian, I know how many of my people attend Yoruba churches. It is much, but not as much as the population of Igbos/Nigerdeltans.

You Yorubas are very lucky that we Middlebelters & Nigerdeltans are not as emotional and sentimental as Igbos. If we were and we decide to gang up with the Igbos in order to sabotage Yoruba churches. Take it from me, your churches will collapse.

Ayekotoo:
Household of God founded by Chris Okotie has 80%Yoruba Pastors likewise Foursquare. Fact!

Barbilius:
Abi o. The Yorubas own pentecostalism in Nigeria and we rightly dominate universities owned by pentecostal churches.

Ayekotoo:


How many non yoruba are in Daystar Christian Center to Yoruba?
What about KICC, Latter Rain, House on the Rock, Household of God etc

Yorubas dominate leadership of Pentecostalism in Nigeria because you people started it, although we Middlebelters & Niger deltans have started giving you people a run for your money in Pentecostalism.
Igbos are the ones who are still very behind in Pentecostalism cos they are so attached to their Catholicism & Anglicanism.

Paul Enenche & David Ibiyeomie dominate Pentecostalism in Abuja & PH.

Abeg, all those Daystar & House on the Rock are one man churches. We are talking of churches like Redemeed, Winners, Mountain of fire, Deeper life e.t.c with more branches outside Yoruba land than branches within Yorubaland.

LegendHero:


You guys problem is that you don't always want to give the required credit to the Yorubas. C'mon, we are minorities in the Christian faith with respect to the other tribes in Nigeria due to to the fact that the Yorubas are basically 50/50 Muslim- Christianpercentage.

SE - Maybe 95% Christian
SS- Maybe 90% Christian
NC: Maybe 50-65% Christian

Yet, the Yoruba owned churches are the lifeline of the Christian faith in Nigeria. Most of the mega-churches are Yoruba owned and the Universities are majorly those of the Yoruba people. Why are the Igbos not successful in establishing those mega-universities? Even if you say they are catholic, why don't they have those mega-institutions? Why are the SS'ner and the Middle Belt Christian not doing same?

Why is it that the Yoruba Christian are successful with all those that made those Christian from other tribe patronize their universities and churches? Doesn't that tell you something is exceptional about the Yorubas? Why not for once face reality.

You said on your other reply that the Yoruba churches/universities will collapse if those tribe leaves? You are joking right? Do you know the number of countries that Redeem and other Yoruba churches are situated? Do you know the number of churches in USA and UK alone?

You are the only people that always shout you develop people and that without you others are Nothing!! Haba!

Bro, I give full credit to the Yorubas for developing Pentecostalism in Nigeria. I always mention this. Same with the Music industry. I give u guys the credit.

However, what I will not take is you guys disrespecting or downplaying the contributions of we Non-Yorubas to the building up of these churches.

You Yorubas have the smallest population of Christians in Nigeria. Igbos have 40 million Christians, Middlebelt/North has 35-40 million Christians, Nigerdeltans have 25 million Christians while you Yorubas should be like 20-25 million Christians.
How on Earth do you think your Pentecostalism or Pentecostal based institutions can survive without us?


I laugh at you when you talk about the presence of Yoruba churches in other countries.... Do you think the Westerners are as religious as us? How many Oyibo people dey pay tithe, firstfruits, vows & pledges? Other Black Africans are also not as religious or heavily miracle seeking as Nigerians! They also don't have the numbers and rich people like us.

Take Yakubu Dogara (former speaker) from Bauchi for example.... He is a very devoted Winners member and he gives so so much to Winners church.
Go to his branch in Bauchi and ask what he used to do there!
Do u know how much such a person will be paying as tithes, offerings, pledges?

Do you think other people are like we Nigerians who steal and yet pay tithes from stolen money?
We Nigerians that will sell our houses & cars in order to sow just because we believe our grandmother in the village is after our destiny?

How many Oyibo people or non-Nigerians wan follow u do that one?

Nowenuse:


Plantains, Bananas & Tangerines are the crop products we know Ondo (Yorubas) dominate.

Yams are 90% from the Middlebelt. Not even Hausa fulanis. Hausa fulanis do not farm Yams.

You have come again with your stupid pontification.

Nowenuse:


Bro, I give full credit to the Yorubas for developing Pentecostalism in Nigeria. I always mention this. Same with the Music industry. I give u guys the credit.

However, what I will not take is you guys disrespecting or downplaying the contributions of we Non-Yorubas to the building up of these churches.

You Yorubas have the smallest population of Christians in Nigeria. Igbos have 40 million Christians, Middlebelt/North has 35-40 million Christians, Nigerdeltans have 25 million Christians while you Yorubas should be like 20-25 million Christians.
How on Earth do you think your Pentecostalism or Pentecostal based institutions can survive without us?


I laugh at you when you talk about the presence of Yoruba churches in other countries.... Do you think the Westerners are as religious as us? How many Oyibo people dey pay tithe, firstfruits, vows & pledges? Other Black Africans are also not as religious or heavily miracle seeking as Nigerians! They also don't have the numbers and rich people like us.

Take Yakubu Dogara (former speaker) from Bauchi for example.... He is a very devoted Winners member and he gives so so much to Winners church.
Go to his branch in Bauchi and ask what he used to do there!
Do u know how much such a person will be paying as tithes, offerings, pledges?

Do you think other people are like we Nigerians who steal and yet pay tithes from stolen money?
We Nigerians that will sell our houses & cars in order to sow just because we believe our grandmother in the village is after our destiny?

How many Oyibo people or non-Nigerians wan follow u do that one?

Any source for all these stupid stats?

Dtribeless:


Schools/businesses are in the SW because we are tolerant. A Yoruba brother/sister cannot incite me against an Igbo/hausa person just because of their tribe. Our culture will ask such to "park well". It's our liberalism that's paying off. Nothing more: we are not smarter or wiser, we tolerate. That's all!

Schools & Businesses are mostly in the SW because of Lagos, nothing else.

Barbilius:
Exactly. Middlebelt in the region that actually produces bulk of food in the north. In fact, if northerners claim they supply us, much of the food we eat down south can't even grow in the core north, abi palm oil dey grow for NE and NW, cassava nko? They only grow things like millet, etc which are not staple food in the south

Thank you very much. Even the Millet, Guinea corn & Maize, middlebelters farm it more than Hausa fulanis.

Hausa fulanis are the biggest parasitic thieves known to Mankind.

Yorubas & Igbos only speak for themselves, why can't Hausa fulanis speak for themselves alone? Why must they say NORTH and drag we the tribes into their madness & stupidity?

Nowenuse:


Bro, I give full credit to the Yorubas for developing Pentecostalism in Nigeria. I always mention this. Same with the Music industry. I give u guys the credit.

However, what I will not take is you guys disrespecting or downplaying the contributions of we Non-Yorubas to the building up of these churches.

You Yorubas have the smallest population of Christians in Nigeria. Igbos have 40 million Christians, Middlebelt/North has 35-40 million Christians, Nigerdeltans have 25 million Christians while you Yorubas should be like 20-25 million Christians.
How on Earth do you think your Pentecostalism or Pentecostal based institutions can survive without us?


I laugh at you when you talk about the presence of Yoruba churches in other countries.... Do you think the Westerners are as religious as us? How many Oyibo people dey pay tithe, firstfruits, vows & pledges? Other Black Africans are also not as religious or heavily miracle seeking as Nigerians! They also don't have the numbers and rich people like us.

Take Yakubu Dogara (former speaker) from Bauchi for example.... He is a very devoted Winners member and he gives so so much to Winners church.
Go to his branch in Bauchi and ask what he used to do there!
Do u know how much such a person will be paying as tithes, offerings, pledges?

Do you think other people are like we Nigerians who steal and yet pay tithes from stolen money?
We Nigerians that will sell our houses & cars in order to sow just because we believe our grandmother in the village is after our destiny?

How many Oyibo people or non-Nigerians wan follow u do that one?

Igbos are mostly catholic, and other orthodox churches, so how are they responsible for survival of Yoruba owned pentecostal churches It's only the middle belt that I give credit to in that regard, even in the middle belt, ECWA reigns Supreme, little wonder Bingham University is located there. The point is, it's out of place to say that universities will crash because a some tribes left, it will even be an opportunity to open up to international students, as it stands now, Covenant University has students from Kenya, Tanzania, Rwanda, Botswana etc and even some Nigerians in diaspora are coming to CU, does that look like a school that will collapse. Ditto for Bowen, owned by the Nigerian Baptist convention, and Baptist church in Nigeria is largely a Yoruba thing, I know Bowen like the back of my palm, mostly Yoruba Baptist students populate the school. See bro, forget it, nature abhors vacuum, that's how ibos boast how Lagos is going to collapse if they leave, I just laugh, they will be replaced In short while.

Barbilius:
Igbos are mostly catholic, and other orthodox churches, so how are they responsible for survival of Yoruba owned pentecostal churches It's only the middle belt that I give credit to in that regard, even in the middle belt, ECWA reigns Supreme, little wonder Bingham University is located there. The point is, it's out of place to say that universities will crash because a some tribes left, it will even be an opportunity to open up to international students, as it stands now, Covenant University has students from Kenya, Tanzania, Rwanda, Botswana etc and even some Nigerians in diaspora are coming to CU, does that look like a school that will collapse. Ditto for Bowen, owned by the Nigerian Baptist convention, and Baptist church in Nigeria is largely a Yoruba thing, I know Bowen like the back of my palm, mostly Yoruba Baptist students populate the school. See bro, forget it, nature abhors vacuum, that's how ibos boast how Lagos is going to collapse if they leave, I just laugh, they will be replaced In short while.

Yorubas are mostly Muslims. Their business Pentecostalism survived because of these areas east, south and north Central.

MelesZenawi:



[s][/s]Yorubas are mostly Muslims. Their business Pentecostalism survived because of these areas east, south and north Central.[s][/s]

Who is this amoeba? Crawl back to your hole nigga

Nowenuse:


Schools & Businesses are mostly in the SW because of Lagos, nothing else.

How many of those SW private universities are in Lagos?

Nowenuse:


Bro, I give full credit to the Yorubas for developing Pentecostalism in Nigeria. I always mention this. Same with the Music industry. I give u guys the credit.

However, what I will not take is you guys disrespecting or downplaying the contributions of we Non-Yorubas to the building up of these churches.

You Yorubas have the smallest population of Christians in Nigeria. Igbos have 40 million Christians, Middlebelt/North has 35-40 million Christians, Nigerdeltans have 25 million Christians while you Yorubas should be like 20-25 million Christians.
How on Earth do you think your Pentecostalism or Pentecostal based institutions can survive without us?


I laugh at you when you talk about the presence of Yoruba churches in other countries.... Do you think the Westerners are as religious as us? How many Oyibo people dey pay tithe, firstfruits, vows & pledges? Other Black Africans are also not as religious or heavily miracle seeking as Nigerians! They also don't have the numbers and rich people like us.

Take Yakubu Dogara (former speaker) from Bauchi for example.... He is a very devoted Winners member and he gives so so much to Winners church.
Go to his branch in Bauchi and ask what he used to do there!
Do u know how much such a person will be paying as tithes, offerings, pledges?

Do you think other people are like we Nigerians who steal and yet pay tithes from stolen money?
We Nigerians that will sell our houses & cars in order to sow just because we believe our grandmother in the village is after our destiny?

How many Oyibo people or non-Nigerians wan follow u do that one?

I am not saying other tribes are not contributing. Don't get me wrong.

All I am just saying is that water will always find its own level.

Barbilius:
[s][/s] Who is this amoeba? Crawl back to your hole nigga

Maybe you want to learn the truth the hard way.

Those sugar coating words for you are just gossips.


The Yoruba Pentecostal business survived because of patronages from east, south and north Central..

Majority of Yorubas are Muslims...

LegendHero:


How many of those SW private universities are in Lagos?

Hekp me ask o, Joseph Ayo babalola University in Ikeji Arakeji is also because of the Lagos factor abi, or Bowen university at Iwo, 200km away from Lagos is also because of Lagos. In fact, I know not a few folks who attend schools like Bowen, Abuab, etc wholive places like ibadan, Oyo, Osogbo, ilesa etc.

MelesZenawi:



[s][/s]Maybe you want to learn the truth the hard way.

Those sugar coating words for you are just gossips.


The Yoruba Pentecostal business survived because of patronages from east, south and north Central..[s][/s]

Majority of Yorubas are Muslims...

Patronage indeed, y'll especially Igbos have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with our Pentecostal churches. In the whole executive arm of Rccg, deeper life, winners, etc they are all Yoruba owned and controlled. You are useful to our Pentecostal churches just as a condom in a convent. Y'll Muppets!!!

Barbilius:
Patronage indeed, y'll especially Igbos have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with our Pentecostal churches. In the whole executive arm of Rccg, deeper life, winners, etc they are all Yoruba owned and controlled. You are useful to our Pentecostal churches just as a condom in a convent. Y'll Muppets!!!

Now you have fully agreed with me now that Yoruba Pentecostalism is a business venture and not a church...

The height of immoral standards introduced by these churches can't even be watched away by mere forgiveness from Pope.


Tribalism was introduced to church through same Pentecostalism...


So on that note it is not a Church but Irredeemable tribal/religious irrendentist.... hiding under the fabrics of Christianity to perpetuate ethnic notations....


In all their powers they can't even heal a sick person let alone covid.

LegendHero:


You guys problem is that you don't always want to give the required credit to the Yorubas. C'mon, we are minorities in the Christian faith with respect to the other tribes in Nigeria due to to the fact that the Yorubas are basically 50/50 Muslim- Christianpercentage.

SE - Maybe 95% Christian
SS- Maybe 90% Christian
NC: Maybe 50-65% Christian

Yet, the Yoruba owned churches are the lifeline of the Christian faith in Nigeria. Most of the mega-churches are Yoruba owned and the Universities are majorly those of the Yoruba people. Why are the Igbos not successful in establishing those mega-universities? Even if you say they are catholic, why don't they have those mega-institutions? Why are the SS'ner and the Middle Belt Christian not doing same?

Why is it that the Yoruba Christian are successful with all those that made those Christian from other tribe patronize their universities and churches? Doesn't that tell you something is exceptional about the Yorubas? Why not for once face reality.

You said on your other reply that the Yoruba churches/universities will collapse if those tribe leaves? You are joking right? Do you know the number of countries that Redeem and other Yoruba churches are situated? Do you know the number of churches in USA and UK alone?

You are the only people that always shout you develop people and that without you others are Nothing!! Haba!

I wonder why you denied your yorubanism to post.Most Pentecostal churches r more populated by non Yorubas. And out Nigeria where you v these Nigerian churches it is Nigerians that make up the membership most people. Nigerians travelled lives style is impacting on those churches. Other tribes v churches but Yorubas v more of the mega churches in Nigeria,however it is wrong for you to expect south south and south east to set up churches for the sake of having one.Mind you in these two regions or geopolitical zones christainity is refred because it is the worship of God but for the Yorubas it is business and a means of amaddong resources for their people.

MelesZenawi:



Maybe you want to learn the truth the hard way.

Those sugar coating words for you are just gossips.


The Yoruba Pentecostal business survived because of patronages from east, south and north Central..

Majority of Yorubas are Muslims...

Which east? We don't even need you for anything in Yorubaland. Go and your little space will be occupied the next second.

tubolancer:
Which east? We don't even need you for anything in Yorubaland. Go and your little space will be occupied the next second.

When your politicians thinks otherwise.

You are just few of the poor masses.

Very soon Ogun State will become a megacity, this people will also claim it, telling every Jack and Jill that they develop it. We are watching.

Barbilius:
Hekp me ask o, Joseph Ayo babalola University in Ikeji Arakeji is also because of the Lagos factor abi, or Bowen university at Iwo, 200km away from Lagos is also because of Lagos. In fact, I know not a few folks who attend schools like Bowen, Abuab, etc wholive places like ibadan, Oyo, Osogbo, ilesa etc.

I tire o my brother. Every success story of Yoruba is always attributed to Lagos by these guys while they neglect the contribution of other Yoruba states as negligible. Most of the Yorubas educational prowess is concentrated in other states and Lagos only had few percentage of the share.

Most Yoruba best public universities, Private Universities, state with highest Professors, Educational Intellectuals, etc. are mainly out of Lagos.

Ogun state alone has high number of Uni than Lasgidi, Proffesors are mainly Ekiti, best universities in UI & OAU, Even Osun state get high number of institution and etc.

But these guys keep shouting Lag, lag lag everytime.

Nowenuse:


Schools & Businesses are mostly in the SW because of Lagos, nothing else.

Nonsense. Simply another excuse to avoid giving credit to the Yoruba with the umbrella argument that everything good about Yorubas is Lagos-related.

Well I know an Igbo girl whose family live in Lekki yet she goes to Uni in Osun State. What connects Osun to Lagos for an Igbo girl resident in Lagos? If she wants to attend Uni outside Lagos why not head to the East, North or Middlebelt?

Why did she choose to stay in the SW with her parent settling on that choice with her to include her father who lives in Enugu and runs a church there yet has kept his family in Lagos? This same girl could not stand Enugu , and could not wait to be back in the SW, when she had to spend two weeks there with her dad over Christmas.

Just accept that there are thousands like that lady who are now very comfortable with the tolerant and liberal Yoruba way of life to the extent it is first choice to them even when they are not Yoruba and have other options. Hardly will you see an Igbo raised anywhere in the SW want to move to the East as an adult.

[s][/s]

MelesZenawi:



Now you have fully agreed with me now that Yoruba Pentecostalism is a business venture and not a church...

The height of immoral standards introduced by these churches can't even be watched away by mere forgiveness from Pope.


Tribalism was introduced to church through same Pentecostalism...


So on that note it is not a Church but Irredeemable tribal/religious irrendentist.... hiding under the fabrics of Christianity to perpetuate ethnic notations....


In all their powers they can't even heal a sick person let alone covid.

[s][/s] Yes, it's a business venture, can y'll Igbos now take your mouths off Yoruba affairs, be it churches, mosques, politics. Face your Eldorado region, stop coming to our schools. We hate you.!!!!!!!

tubolancer:
Which east? We don't even need you for anything in Yorubaland. Go and your little space will be occupied the next second.

Like seriously... We don't need them for any bleeping thing in the world. We have our port, arable land, international border, already top universities in the country etc. They should face their region and stop meddling in our affairs.

Barbilius:
[/s][s] Yes, it's a business venture, can y'll Igbos now take your mouths off Yoruba affairs, be it churches, mosques, politics. Face your Eldorado region, stop coming to our schools. We hate you.!!!!!!!

You can only hate without lines on your face.

A stripped line on your face has removed the beauty sand handsome and left the person with self bitterness not even hate.

Barbilius:
Igbos are mostly catholic, and other orthodox churches, so how are they responsible for survival of Yoruba owned pentecostal churches It's only the middle belt that I give credit to in that regard, even in the middle belt, ECWA reigns Supreme, little wonder Bingham University is located there. The point is, it's out of place to say that universities will crash because a some tribes left, it will even be an opportunity to open up to international students, as it stands now, Covenant University has students from Kenya, Tanzania, Rwanda, Botswana etc and even some Nigerians in diaspora are coming to CU, does that look like a school that will collapse. Ditto for Bowen, owned by the Nigerian Baptist convention, and Baptist church in Nigeria is largely a Yoruba thing, I know Bowen like the back of my palm, mostly Yoruba Baptist students populate the school. See bro, forget it, nature abhors vacuum, that's how ibos boast how Lagos is going to collapse if they leave, I just laugh, they will be replaced In short while.

Igbos are overwhelmingly Catholic/Anglican, however, currently they are something like 65% and 35% Pentecostal.
In the past, Pentecostals would be like 15% in Igbo land.
Many of their younger people, especially those who migrate out of Igbo land are leaving Catholicism to Pentecostalism.

So pls, Igbos are now a significant number in Pentecostalism. Check Dunamis & Salvation ministries (biggest Pentecostal brands in the Middlebelt & SS) and u will see that Igbos make up like 35% of both churches. Especially the Delta & Rivers Igbos (these ones are not strongly Catholic like those in the SE).

Yes, Orthodox Churches of SUM origin like ECWA, COCIN, CRCN, EYN e.t.c dominate the Middlebelt & the north with like 70%. However, we also have many Pentecostal converts too just like the Igbos and the numbers keep growing everyday. We also have a strong native Baptist, Seventh day Adventist & even White garment population.

And mind you, not only Pentecostal members attend Pentecostal based universities. As long as they are Christian schools, all middle-class christians prefer them for their wards.


Yes, there are international students in Covenant, but what are their percentages? Like 0.5%. My brother went there and I asked him these questions.
As for abroad based Nigerians who come to covenant universitiy, it's almost same percentage between Yorubas & Non-Yorubas and many of these abroad based Nigerians actually get expelled cos they cannot keep up with the strict religious doctrines in the school.


See bros, I was in Tafawa Balewa town in Bauchi some months ago and the town felt a little bit dry to me, considering it's size.
You just know something is missing there.
Hausa fulanis were evicted from that town by Sayawa natives 9 years ago and that was the reason for that emptiness.
Hausa fulanis are an enterprising people unlike we Middlebelt tribes and when they left, the vibes of that place was no longer there.

You and me know that you Yorubas are also not as enterprising as Igbos. If Igbos leave Lagos, it's not as if Lagos will completely die, no! But it will loose it's appeal, it's vibes, it's cosmopolitanism. Capital ownership & Consumer population will reduce.
I just don't know to explain this for u to get, until u have experienced something like this u won't get what I'm saying.

And who will replace Igbos if they leave Lagos? Hausa fulanis? Beninoise? Togolese?

See, Settlers actually give every cosmopolitan city a certain vibes that won't be there.

Jos would have been as cosmopolitan as Kaduna, but many settlers fled Jos due to the repeated crisis. When I was in Kaduna recently, men it felt like I was in the South. The city was just very cosmopolitan, unlike Jos where natives outnumber settlers everywhere (except for Hausa areas).

Lagos would be like Ibadan if Igbos leave. If Nigerdeltans & Middlebelters also leave, it will be like Ogbomosho, Osogbo or Iwo.

tubolancer:
Which east? We don't even need you for anything in Yorubaland. Go and your little space will be occupied the next second.

LegendHero:


I tire o my brother. Every success story of Yoruba is always attributed to Lagos by these guys while they neglect the contribution of other Yoruba states as negligible. Most of the Yorubas educational prowess is concentrated in other states and Lagos only had few percentage of the share.

Most Yoruba best public universities, Private Universities, state with highest Professors, Educational Intellectuals, etc. are mainly out of Lagos.

Ogun state alone has high number of Uni than Lasgidi, Proffesors are mainly Ekiti, best universities in UI & OAU, Even Osun state get high number of institution and etc.

But these guys keep shouting Lag, lag lag everytime.

I tire oo. Lagos population is less than population of other Yoruba states, so why ranting Lagos alone. Them go dey shout say Lagos na slum, their villages are better but challenge dem to relocate to their villages and live there, they won't. Their busses are still fully loaded everyday heading for that same slum. Terrible people!!!

Nowenuse:


Igbos are overwhelmingly Catholic/Anglican, however, currently they are something like 65% and 35% Pentecostal.
In the past, Pentecostals would be like 15% in Igbo land.
Many of their younger people, especially those who migrate out of Igbo land are leaving Catholicism to Pentecostalism.

So pls, Igbos are now a significant number in Pentecostalism. Check Dunamis & Salvation ministries (biggest Pentecostal brands in the Middlebelt & SS) and u will see that Igbos make up like 35% of both churches. Especially the Delta & Rivers Igbos (these ones are not strongly Catholic like those in the SE).

Yes, Orthodox Churches of SUM origin like ECWA, COCIN, CRCN, EYN e.t.c dominate the Middlebelt & the north with like 70%. However, we also have many Pentecostal converts too just like the Igbos and the numbers keep growing everyday. We also have a strong native Baptist, Seventh day Adventist & even White garment population.

And mind you, not only Pentecostal members attend Pentecostal based universities. As long as they are Christian schools, all middle-class christians prefer them for their wards.


Yes, there are international students in Covenant, but what are their percentages? Like 0.5%. My brother went there and I asked him these questions.
As for abroad based Nigerians who come to covenant universitiy, it's almost same percentage between Yorubas & Non-Yorubas and many of these abroad based Nigerians actually get expelled cos they cannot keep up with the strict religious doctrines in the school.


See bros, I was in Tafawa Balewa town in Bauchi some months ago and the town felt a little bit dry to me, considering it's size.
You just know something is missing there.
Hausa fulanis were evicted from that town by Sayawa natives 9 years ago and that was the reason for that emptiness.
Hausa fulanis are an enterprising people unlike we Middlebelt tribes and when they left, the vibes of that place was no longer there.

You and me know that you Yorubas are also not as enterprising as Igbos. [/b] If Igbos leave Lagos, it's not as if Lagos will completely die, no! But it will loose it's appeal, it's vibes, it's cosmopolitanism. Capital ownership & Consumer population will reduce.
I just don't know to explain this for u to get, until u have experienced something like this u won't get what I'm saying.

And who will replace Igbos if they leave Lagos? Hausa fulanis? Beninoise? Togolese?

See, Settlers actually give every cosmopolitan city a certain vibes that won't be there. [b]

Jos would have been as cosmopolitan as Kaduna, but many settlers fled Jos due to the repeated crisis. When I was in Kaduna recently, men it felt like I was in the South. The city was just very cosmopolitan, unlike Jos where natives outnumber settlers everywhere (except for Hausa areas).

Lagos would be like Ibadan if Igbos leave. If Nigerdeltans & Middlebelters also leave, it will be like Ogbomosho, Osogbo or Iwo.

@bolded,are ibos the only one who knows how to settle in a place? Even foreigners like Indians, Lebanese etc have settled in Lagos since God knows when and they never even claim to be the reason for the growth of the city yet people who started coming in their numbers in the 1970s will want to push a theory of then being the reason for Lagos growth. Like @omonnakoda use to say, geography is the only factor which has made Lagos, and the thin about geography is that people may change but it never changes. The geographical location that makes it alluring to the Brits is what will attract people's from different places to it in the event of division of Nigeria.

Barbilius:
[/s][s] Yes, it's a business venture, can y'll Igbos now take your mouths off Yoruba affairs, be it churches, mosques, politics. Face your Eldorado region, stop coming to our schools. We hate you.!!!!!!!

I dont get them. Simply pathetic how they are so sentimental and can never views things objectively and in line with the reality on the ground simply because they can't bring themselves to give the Yorubas credit where due.

They will make so much noise about the SE yet this is the same region no Igbo who has had prolonged exposure to the SW, especially the women, wants to return to. Some Igbos really believe that adage that a lie told a thousand times begin to resemble the truth.

This is why they beat their hollow chest, every little chance, about their SE States yet the reality is that most SW-based Igbos are always wary of visiting their indigenous SE States and, even when they must, remain very apprehensive of while there. Igbos and self-delusion are 5 and 6.

Grayoso:


Nonsense. Simply another excuse to avoid giving credit to the Yoruba with the umbrella argument that everything good about Yorubas is Lagos-related.

Well I know an Igbo girl whose family live in Lekki yet she goes to Uni in Osun State. What connects Osun to Lagos for an Igbo girl resident in Lagos? If she wants to attend Uni outside Lagos why not head to the East, North or Middlebelt?

Why did she choose to stay in the SW with her parent settling on that choice with her to include her father who lives in Enugu and runs a church there yet has kept his family in Lagos? This same girl could not stand Enugu , and could not wait to be back in the SW, when she had to spend two weeks there with her dad over Christmas.

Just accept that there are thousands like that lady who are now very comfortable with the tolerant and liberal Yoruba way of life to the extent it is first choice to them even when they are not Yoruba and have other options. Hardly will you see an Igbo raised anywhere in the SW want to move to the East as an adult.

tubolancer:
Very soon Ogun State will become a megacity, this people will also claim it, telling every Jack and Jill that they develop it. We are watching.

Legendhero

Ogun is developing because of Lagos, just as Nasarawa & Niger are developing because of Abuja. It is not rocket science.

Karu (Nasarawa) has become a full blown urban area of it's own with an estimated population of 2 million people and a size comparable to that of the 3rd largest city in the SW (Akure). Karu is also the fastest growing urban area in Nigeria.
All of this are happening in Karu inspite of the fact that the government of Nasarawa state are not even investing anything in Karu or generating any reasonable income from there.

If with little govt investments and Karu becomes the 2nd largest urban area in Nigeria, can Nasarawa people really claim to have built Karu out of nothing, knowing that Abuja was the reason for it's development?

Bingham university by ECWA church (biggest native church in the North) was built here. Why did they not build it in FCT?
Simple, cheapness of Land.

The desire for cheaper land and nearness to the population center (Lagos) is the reason why most of these things are built in other SW states. And also, for some of the varsities, the Yoruba GOs of these churches decide to build the schools in their hometowns or places where these churches started.

Nowenuse:


Igbos are overwhelmingly Catholic/Anglican, however, currently they are something like 65% and 35% Pentecostal.
In the past, Pentecostals would be like 15% in Igbo land.
Many of their younger people, especially those who migrate out of Igbo land are leaving Catholicism to Pentecostalism.

So pls, Igbos are now a significant number in Pentecostalism. Check Dunamis & Salvation ministries (biggest Pentecostal brands in the Middlebelt & SS) and u will see that Igbos make up like 35% of both churches. Especially the Delta & Rivers Igbos (these ones are not strongly Catholic like those in the SE).

Yes, Orthodox Churches of SUM origin like ECWA, COCIN, CRCN, EYN e.t.c dominate the Middlebelt & the north with like 70%. However, we also have many Pentecostal converts too just like the Igbos and the numbers keep growing everyday. We also have a strong native Baptist, Seventh day Adventist & even White garment population.

And mind you, not only Pentecostal members attend Pentecostal based universities. As long as they are Christian schools, all middle-class christians prefer them for their wards.


Yes, there are international students in Covenant, but what are their percentages? Like 0.5%. My brother went there and I asked him these questions.
As for abroad based Nigerians who come to covenant universitiy, it's almost same percentage between Yorubas & Non-Yorubas and many of these abroad based Nigerians actually get expelled cos they cannot keep up with the strict religious doctrines in the school.


See bros, I was in Tafawa Balewa town in Bauchi some months ago and the town felt a little bit dry to me, considering it's size.
You just know something is missing there.
Hausa fulanis were evicted from that town by Sayawa natives 9 years ago and that was the reason for that emptiness.
Hausa fulanis are an enterprising people unlike we Middlebelt tribes and when they left, the vibes of that place was no longer there.

You and me know that you Yorubas are also not as enterprising as Igbos. If Igbos leave Lagos, it's not as if Lagos will completely die, no! But it will loose it's appeal, it's vibes, it's cosmopolitanism. Capital ownership & Consumer population will reduce.
I just don't know to explain this for u to get, until u have experienced something like this u won't get what I'm saying.

And who will replace Igbos if they leave Lagos? Hausa fulanis? Beninoise? Togolese?

See, Settlers actually give every cosmopolitan city a certain vibes that won't be there.

Jos would have been as cosmopolitan as Kaduna, but many settlers fled Jos due to the repeated crisis. When I was in Kaduna recently, men it felt like I was in the South. The city was just very cosmopolitan, unlike Jos where natives outnumber settlers everywhere (except for Hausa areas).

Lagos would be like Ibadan if Igbos leave. If Nigerdeltans & Middlebelters also leave, it will be like Ogbomosho, Osogbo or Iwo.

Lagos is an international city and you guys know it, if the igbos leave, it will only make more room for the indians, chinese, lebanese and other asians who are even more business savvy than the igbos and will only make Lagos look more international. The igbos are the ones who need Lagos more than Lagos need them.