Jashub:
[My good man. It seems you do not even know levity of what you are saying. You call yourself a christian yet you support masturbation. Now , before you go any further, please read your previous post and see how you chose masturbation as an alternative to fornication. Yes. You indirectly said so. Secondly, The Op has not even finished his narrative yet you drew myopic conclusions on his activities which shows you have judged by your own standards. Yes...you have judged because you are not sure whether he is still masturbating or fornicating(because he is yet to finish his tale) . And for the record, this is not about comprehension on my part ; it is about you. You have have talked without knowing the end of the matter; you have judged without even even knowing how he overcame.

Stop misquoting him. He didnt chose mastubation as an alternative to fornication on religion ground. He chose it on moral and health ground. If you want us to start talking about the religion perspective, then their aint much to say. In religion, u can only have sex with ur legal wife, nothing more. But aside religion, are you telling me that it is better to fornicate than to mastubate?

lahizak:

Just try and google it. You will discover that mastubation occurs mostly between the ages of 15 to 35. Thats to say a large number of people quit b4 they are 36. Secondly, I was not talking from the perspective of religion, i just said dat to make people know that im very much aware that mastubation is a sin. And lastly, the fact that the ration between sex related problems is extremely wider than mastubation related problems suggest that mastubation is even healthier than sex.

Oga, there no figures to verify what you are saying; all are mere assumptions(probably cooked-up by non-scientific groups like operamini ) And secondly when did google become the offical authority on masturbation-related behaviors in humans? Google is not a reference, which is why it is not consulted for academic work, neither is it a fact-finder. If you wish to substantiate your facts, go to medical journals instead not Google. And as for the religious side of the debate, masturbation is ungodly. Period.

lahizak:

Stop misquoting him. He didnt chose mastubation as an alternative to fornication on religion ground. He chose it on moral and health ground. If you want us to start talking about the religion perspective, then their aint much to say. In religion, u can only have sex with ur legal wife, nothing more. But aside religion, are you telling me that it is better to fornicate than to mastubate?

Let me address two things here
1. Did he make mention of moral or health grounds his in post? Please visit his thread and see for yourself.
2. I do not support fornication; it is ungodly. The advice I would give such a person would be to get closer to His God through reading the Bible and praying.

Jashub:
[s][/s] Oga, you have blundered. .So why is it so hard to admit... ?
1. You drew narrow conclusions on the OP's post and here you are, shamelessly defending an error. Now i asked you if the OP finished his narrative(of which you failed to answer) ? And the answer is no. So why did you conclude that he was fornicating.

2.Masturbation is a sin(you said so yourself). So why support sin? Is there anything like big and small sin with God? No. So why remain in the devil's tent...?

From what I see, you are the type who would love to justify wickedness so long as it suits your carnal desires.

You dey craze o.

Njpot no dey reply this mad man.

[s]

IlovePMB:


You dey craze o.

Njpot no dey reply this mad man.

[/s] I'm sure that's the newest word in your dictionary. But its good sha... It shows me the kind of rock you crawled out from.

Jashub:
I'm sure that's the newest word in your dictionary. But its good sha... It shows me the kind of rock you crawled out from.

"Everything is bad when done in excess. Masturbation done moderately is better than fornication, adultery, rape and constant Lustful thoughts. If you want to condemn sin, condemn all sins. Don't speak against Masturbation while promoting fornication. Both you and the pastors casting away the spirit of Masturbation while leaving the spirit of fornication are all mad." Thats the 1st thing that the guy u are attacking said. Read it over again and understand. At this point only an insane person will continue replying u

lahizak:

"Everything is bad when done in excess.Masturbation done moderately is better than fornication , adultery, rape and constant Lustful thoughts. If you want to condemn sin, condemn all sins. Don't speak against Masturbation while promoting fornication. Both you and the pastors casting away the spirit of Masturbation while leaving the spirit of fornication are all mad." Thats the 1st thing that the guy u are attacking said. Read it over again and understand. At this point only an insane person will continue replying u

This is my basic problem with Nigerians : they hate reading. Have you gone through his thread? Oga, before concluding, please go through his thread and see how he shamelessly supported masturbation. Even in this post you are quoting, he is indirectly supporting masturbation by saying "... Masturbation done moderately is better than fornication..." . So what's your argument on? How can it be better to pick one sin (no matter its nature) as a substitute for another? Think!

I am sorry for the halt in my story, I should commence my write-up, meanwhile I had a busy time reading through your comments about masturbation and all.. I reserve my comment and judgements on that tho....


so let's go

typing...

My story continues, truth is completely eliminating masturbation doesn't come easy at all... your mind still goes there, you have those imageries in your mind and you still wish to play with your self... It takes determination to let go of it, but one of the major way to deal with masturbation is AVOID BEING IDLE, this is exactly what breeds the thought of trying it out...(just a little won't cause harm, you may say).. you compensate yourself with fake stories like it doesn't being STDs and doesn't lead to unwanted pregnancy but the truth is the long term effect of it can kill you and make you useless psychologically and health wise... truth is you can't masturbate moderately.. it's a real deal to stop it, but you first need to avoid being alone...

just as the law of thermodynamics states Energy can neither be created nor destroyed... habits cant be destroyed, instead they can be transferred, I had to come off with another new habit of gaming and public outing to let this dilemma go.... All I ensure was to make sure this new habit lasted for 3 weeks and zoom I had no interest in masturbation again.. This time I had to stay all clear of porn too... (if ain't tasting the soup, stay clear from the sweet aroma)

Now my game since then has improved, I'm not married tho but I have a serious fiancee and I feel much better, I feel more content added to me, more concentration and more results... The truth is abuse is always an issue... whether masturbation or usual sex but trust me masturbation isn't an option... it makes you socially akward, kills your manliness, concentration level drops... while I insist addiction to anything is worse, masturbation causes more harm... please be safe

emperorsversion:
My story continues, truth is completely eliminating masturbation doesn't come easy at all... your mind still goes there, you have those imageries in your mind and you still wish to play with your self... It takes determination to let go of it, but one of the major way to deal with masturbation is AVOID BEING IDLE, this is exactly what breeds the thought of trying it out...(just a little won't cause harm, you may say).. you compensate yourself with fake stories like it doesn't being STDs and doesn't lead to unwanted pregnancy but the truth is the long term effect of it can kill you and make you useless psychologically and health wise... truth is you can't masturbate moderately.. it's a real deal to stop it, but you first need to avoid being alone...

just as the law of thermodynamics states Energy can neither be created nor destroyed... habits cant be destroyed, instead they can be transferred, I had to come off with another new habit of gaming and public outing to let this dilemma go.... All I ensure was to make sure this new habit lasted for 3 weeks and zoom I had no interest in masturbation again.. This time I had to stay all clear of porn too... (if ain't tasting the soup, stay clear from the sweet aroma)

Now my game since then has improved, I'm not married tho but I have a serious fiancee and I feel much better, I feel more content added to me, more concentration and more results... The truth is abuse is always an issue... whether masturbation or usual sex but trust me masturbation isn't an option... it makes you socially akward, kills your manliness, concentration level drops... while I insist addiction to anything is worse, masturbation causes more harm... please be safe

It is always a good thing to stop a habit you don't like. Congrats if you will not do that again.

emperorsversion:
There is a popular saying that it takes 3 weeks to form a habit when you repeatedly keep doing something... Trust me for masturbation a week and you already in it... I started doing it frequently, I don't sleep at night.. I download porn clips and service myself all night.. it became a real addiction that I couldn't stay a night without engaging myself, something I do 5 times daily... This lasted all through my service years also when I passed out from service...

Now I've passed out from service, I am now open to the real world and I'm to return back to my sweet home in Benin City, Edo state... I've got babes I left waiting for me... Funny thing was I couldn't still stop it... Infact I had started preferring masturbation than the actual sex. My first sex after service was unlike me, I struggled to have an erection, couldn't last more than one round , I was having lasting pains all through out my body..

I was now having problems Concentrating, loss of weight, I became very light, my sperm was watery, had breathing problems, stubborn headache, i was generally now weak... Guys masturbation drains you comoletely... Completely... Do not be deceived when you hear people say masturbation makes you good... Haven't you heard about the popular saying by a boxer that sex weakens the leg, masturbation weakens more and drains all hour energy and stamina.... Me that use to last rounds before abs maiñtain erection even after sex for rounds was struggling in the first 2 minutes no to cum...

My life was really messed, still I couldn't stop...

This also affected my relationship with girls, There are two things masturbation does to guys;

1. Makes you see all girls as sex objects, you just can't think of anything but sex... "Wow she got a good ass, I shouldn't masturbate over that, she reminds me of my favourite porn stars"

2. It makes you have low self esteem with women, you are now at the mercy of sex alone and so you act and behave foolishly because of sex... It ruins everything

I had gone through all of these for years...

Came out for deliverance, pastors laid hands on me, stopped watching porn but a week time I go back, seen the devasted side effects of it, that it can affect ones fertility.. I get touched when reading this, vow never to return, still I did

How did I overcome



Typing.....

o ga o

Battleground:
I'm more concerned with the watery sperm. Did it go? If yes, how? Care to share?

yes it did go away... now the question is what makes a sperm watery...

1. infection
2.Excessive sex/masturbation (in rare cases tho)

For mine it was masturbation, so the moment I stopped I ate more fruits like banana mixed with groundnut, drank milk, and was always taking enough fluid while I completely avoided sugar... Now I can tell you I no longer have watery sperm..

How do I know this... Had sex with my girlfriend recently and she took in...

emperorsversion:


yes it did go away... now the question is what makes a sperm watery...

1. infection
2.Excessive sex/masturbation (in rare cases tho)

For mine it was masturbation, so the moment I stopped I ate more fruits like banana mixed with groundnut, drank milk, and was always taking enough fluid while I completely avoided sugar... Now I can tell you I no longer have watery sperm..

How do I know this... Had sex with my girlfriend recently and she took in...

it's well sha