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Jaymoon:
lovely beads, how much?

Pls check out my profile to contact me. You can also visit @beadsbyudy on IG too

my girlfriend is a big fan, i love seeing her waist all d time. it makes her more beautiful walai.

Kokoebapluse:



Will you keep quiet?


Lucifa OK corona ni

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Lifestone:

I love your presentation, but without credible referencing, I will only take it as fables and unverified

Spoken by someone who relies solely on Western styled references and books. Allow me to introduce you to an abandoned yet still relevant and, valid account of history, and that is oral accounts of tradition. Our uneducated in Western tradition elders constitute a vast repository of history and heritage. If you spent less time on the internet, and in Oyinbo libraries and dedicated more to listening and asking our village elders questions, perhaps you would be able to decipher fact from fiction.

Ojady:


Spoken by someone who relies solely on Western styled references and books. Allow me to introduce you to an abandoned yet still relevant and, valid account of history, and that is oral accounts of tradition. Our uneducated in Western tradition elders constitute a vast repository of history and heritage. If you spent less time on the internet, and in Oyinbo libraries and dedicated more to listening and asking our village elders questions, perhaps you would be able to decipher fact from fiction.

You made some serious historical assertions that must be supported by references. If you are relying on oral traditions as you claimed, then tell us specifically from whom you heard it from for its acceptability and credibility.. I was interested in further knowledge
Whatever, your fable makes interesting reading.

Lifestone:

You made some serious historical assertions that must be supported by references. If you are relying on oral traditions as you claimed, then tell us specifically from whom you heard it from for its acceptability and credibility.. I was interested in further knowledge
Whatever, your fable makes interesting reading.

My dear, I perceive you are a scholar and I want to assume, like I am, you were not constituted in a science laboratory. You have progenitors - an ancestral descent from both sides of your paternal and maternal bearings, please seek them out and ask them questions. If they have become too westernized to provide connecting answers, remember Knowledge is free and boundless, you re also welcome to venture on excursive trips to the villages of ancient Umuahia, Okigwe, Dahomey, Oyo, old Benin and seek the elders who keep oral accounts.

And so while an evil genius is not meant to disclose their sources, I will be magnanimous and refer you to one of my specific oral sources. Visit Epe, and ask for an old man by the name JagboJagbo (I hope he is still alive) - a real life /true African Shaman/babalawo. I lived with his daughters 22 years ago during my GCE odyssey to those parts of Lagos (story for another day) and ask him about the origins of magun or how law and order was maintained without guns and Policemen in pre- colonial Africa.

I want to stress here, a true African scholar may build his foundation on books but he cannot rely on books alone. This is solely on the premise that History has not always been written by those who were the actual actors of the event but by those who had the resources to not only mainstream their perspective but also control the narrative. And so in response, to your desperate need for references, pls look up anything on African/Nigerian history by Obaro Ikime. The ones I particularly refer to are:

1. Groundwork of Nigerian History
2. European conquest and African resistance
3. Peoples and kingdoms of West Africa in the pre-colonial period

(I first read these in the Unilag Library; circa 20 years ago, sorry I cannot give you page numbers and I no longer have my copies but I am sure you will find sth online)

For online references:
4. https://everyevery.ng/magun-for-rapists/
5. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/rape-of-africans-by-europeans-an-ongoing-colonial-habit/138496
6. http://www.reflectionsafricanjewelryllc.com/african-blog/african-waistbeads

Allow me to clarify, I do not just wake up and "arm chair theorize" or fibulate...No Sir... I did my work, with its limitations (my being a woman being one of them and facing that which directly relates to me being my scope of study) perhaps your being a man (I assume) can expand further for us to learn more about our African heritage...

As a digress, Thank you @ Mr Lifestone for rekindling my suspended passion for learning and research

Ojady:


My dear, I perceive you are a scholar and I want to assume, like I am, you were not constituted in a science laboratory. You have progenitors - an ancestral descent from both sides of your paternal and maternal bearings, please seek them out and ask them questions. If they have become too westernized to provide connecting answers, remember Knowledge is free and boundless, you re also welcome to venture on excursive trips to the villages of ancient Umuahia, Okigwe, Dahomey, Oyo, old Benin and seek the elders who keep oral accounts.

And so while an evil genius is not meant to disclose their sources, I will be magnanimous and refer you to one of my specific oral sources. Visit Epe, and ask for an old man by the name JagboJagbo (I hope he is still alive) - a real life /true African Shaman/babalawo. I lived with his daughters 22 years ago during my GCE odyssey to those parts of Lagos (story for another day) and ask him about the origins of magun or how law and order was maintained without guns and Policemen in pre- colonial Africa.

I want to stress here, a true African scholar may build his foundation on books but he cannot rely on books alone. This is solely on the premise that History has not always been written by those who were the actual actors of the event but by those who had the resources to not only mainstream their perspective but also control the narrative. And so in response, to your desperate need for references, pls look up anything on African/Nigerian history by Obaro Ikime. The ones I particularly refer to are:

1. Groundwork of Nigerian History
2. European conquest and African resistance
3. Peoples and kingdoms of West Africa in the pre-colonial period

(I first read these in the Unilag Library; circa 20 years ago, sorry I cannot give you page numbers and I no longer have my copies but I am sure you will find sth online)

For online references:
4. https://everyevery.ng/magun-for-rapists/
5. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/rape-of-africans-by-europeans-an-ongoing-colonial-habit/138496
6. http://www.reflectionsafricanjewelryllc.com/african-blog/african-waistbeads

Allow me to clarify, I do not just wake up and "arm chair theorize" or fibulate...No Sir... I did my work, with its limitations (my being a woman being one of them and facing that which directly relates to me being my scope of study) perhaps your being a man (I assume) can expand further for us to learn more about our African heritage...

As a digress, Thank you @ Mr Lifestone for rekindling my suspended passion for learning and research

I will try and follow up on the links you referenced and I appreciate you for seeing my interest in the unwritten African History. No doubt this is a critical source, but the problem I have with oral history is the fact that it changes from generation to generation and most time some parts are completely lost.
For instance I have asked my parents about my family history and have been told so many things which I am presently trying to corroborate with others sources before I can take it as the truth.

You are right I am a scholar.

Lifestone:

I will try and follow up on the links you referenced and I appreciate you for seeing my interest in the unwritten African History. No doubt this is a critical source, but the problem I have with oral history is the fact that it changes from generation to generation and most time some parts are completely lost.
For instance I have asked my parents about my family history and have been told so many things which I am presently trying to corroborate with others sources before I can take it as the truth.

You are right I am a scholar.

Goodluck Sir, but please, brace yourself...
Attimes in search of history, we find out some mind blowing and unpalatable truth, this is perhaps why some oral renditions of past events are modestly explained (omitting critical facts like incest, epillepsy etc) or exaggerated to cover up certain hard truths...but still, when we attempt to unravel adequately cover our history, we can better understand why people act the way they doour today in order for tomorrow to be

stevmatt15:

Yes at oke ese close to AYESO POLICE barracks

I Also Stay In Ilesa I Stay Around Power Line But I Have My Shops In Adeti

Oshi5403:


I Also Stay In Ilesa
I Stay Around Power Line
But I Have My Shops In Adeti

I have been there many times
But the truth been told, the particular place I went to was that coffin casket side

stevmatt15:


I have been there many times
But the truth been told, the particular place I went to was that coffin casket side

Okay Now

I like it and I wear it nothing wrong,it depends on how u look at it

Reasons Why Some Ladies Wear Waist Beads,
So many people especially men have constantly ask this simple question. - why do ladies wear bead � on their waist - part of the body that is always covered with clothes?
1. Some ladies wear it to turn their husband or boyfriend on in the other room.
2. Some ladies do wear it just for fashion sake. Some guys like when their babe wear it.
3. Some wear it to monitor their weight.
4. Some may wear it to tie a man down to them or to prevent pregnancy.
5. Some wear it to make their bum shake.
Are you a girl wearing waist beads Tell us reasons why you do so. Guys do you like your woman wearing waist beads?

Leezah:
Reasons Why Some Ladies Wear Waist Beads,
So many people especially men have constantly ask this simple question. - why do ladies wear bead � on their waist - part of the body that is always covered with clothes?
1. Some ladies wear it to turn their husband or boyfriend on in the other room.
2. Some ladies do wear it just for fashion sake. Some guys like when their babe wear it.
3. Some wear it to monitor their weight.
4. Some may wear it to tie a man down to them or to prevent pregnancy.
5. Some wear it to make their bum shake.
Are you a girl wearing waist beads Tell us reasons why you do so. Guys do you like your woman wearing waist beads?

i cant wair to hear how No. 4 works.

By d way i would like em beads��

Ojady:
Interesting question and a pointer to how far we are from the traditions of our forefathers and how we have been socialized to view them as evil, as a form of fashion or obsolete. In some cultures, the bead especially around the waist was symbolic - the girl child's status either as the first child, a princess, a virgin, a special child etc It was not fashion,as a matter of fact, when a virgin was raped, she would tear the beads and allow it fall, such that anyone who saw them, knew what was to follow. During the precolonial wars, the Arabs of the Northern parts of modern day Africa called southern Africa " the land of the women with big bottoms" big perhaps accentuated by the colour of the beads and deemed an indicator of the fertility potential of such women - this was why, according to historians, apart from material conquest, the Arabs loved to raid the Southern lands of Africa.

It was these raids that misappropriated the purpose of waist beads that the shamans of our ancestors decided to evolve another use of it and that became the roots of magun (do not climb).As the raids became more daring: bands of marauders initially kidnapping, raping and filling communities with bastards and desecrating the land, to actual conquest - so also the advent of colonialism where our cultural values became materialised and the colonial Lords and those who approved of their ways would avail themselves of women anyhow to sate their lustful pleasures, the bead became a deterrent solution. Desperate fathers, husbands and even some powerful women would lace beads with instant judgement (a typical feature of justice those days)such that if any man was careless enough to get hanky panky without proper rites, the unfortunate fellow, may either not be able to penetrate, may forcibly do so and somersault till he dies, bark like a rabid dog, experience a breakout of scabies,chickenpox, bleed out of his penis hole till he dies etc...Once the cases of such began to multiply, the news began to spread and gradually it became used for anything and anyone.

Nowadays, one cannot just see a woman with a waist bead and assume its fashion, Broda (in Igbo accent) it could be sinister intentions - destiny stealers, home wrecker on the prowl, get in once and you re trapped forever...

Very interesting madam, i find it hilarious that the so-called hexed beads were effective against town folks but failed to ward of the foreign invaders which came to take, take, take amd take more women as they pleased.
Im surr the physical evidence of the failure of so called charms is a factor that has led blacks to throw away their culture rapidly in favor of thay of their oppressors.
After all, it proved that the God the whites claimed to serve was evidently morr powerful than they could ever imagine.

Tudox05:
13 years to me is very bad, at least 20+ I can never and never buy it for my daughter.

In the 90th, it was common and wore most by children

989900:
1. It's originally meant to help watch weight and induce a figure 8 sort of (mostly illusionary figure .

2. It's damn sexy and huge turn on for some men just as some men can sign off their life savings for a woman with the right waist tattoo.
Yes, we're thinking 'dogggie' . . . "ojigbi-jigbi-jigbi-jigbi".


3. Simply fashion for most women.

4. The 'juju' type is probably less than 0.001%.

5. Threads like this let you realise that most Nairalanders are less than 30 with limited exposure to cultures, traditions, fashion, mindset, etc. beyond their immediate environment.

U talk so maturely ,I have a crush
Continue being u