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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 12:21pm On Apr 20, 2020
Ken006:
My worry is still on the protective equipment. From the video most of them are not wearing helmet, ballistic vest etc.
What about the chadians why didn't you judge them....

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SerikinGamo: 12:22pm On Apr 20, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:



Not everyone must be a military personnel before making comments. The beauty of this thread is our opinions on military matters. I am not a military personnel but i have been to 23 out of the 27 LGAs and have spent close to four years here in Borno. Them suppose even give me Bulama self grin grin

I have made friends with lots of Military personnel here in the NE and i have lost some to these Unnecessary war sad

Asking why a commander is not with his Rifle does not mean we are not Patriotic Nigerians grin grin

So, in summary “no meaningful background”. Right

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 12:23pm On Apr 20, 2020
Toju200:
it's still on https://twitter.com/piusadesina/status/1251852094195355649?s=20
Yes it is, but i doesnt play, am thinking I mut have an account to play the video.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SerikinGamo: 12:28pm On Apr 20, 2020
GeneralFarouq:

Yes it is, but i doesnt play, am thinking I mut have an account to play the video.

You don’t need an account, try another browser
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 12:28pm On Apr 20, 2020
SerikinGamo:


So, in summary “no meaningful background”. Right

Yes bro. grin grin grin grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 12:29pm On Apr 20, 2020
Toju200:
What about the chadians why didn't you judge them....


Lol we are now Chadians? grin grin grin My brother then there is no need for us getting Angry when ISWAP runs down FOBs and kill our gallant men.

Someone is not Happy our Soldiers are not wearing bulletproofs and Helmet and you bring a Chadian perspective. Too bad embarassed embarassed embarassed

Baba grin grin grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 12:31pm On Apr 20, 2020
Ken006:
Honestly speaking, Nigeria is one of the most armed forces in Africa and the world at large, but I think Nigeria is taking a long time to wipe BH.
The service chiefs should change their tactics and approach.
Also Nigeria should allow ECOWAS form a coalition force including Ghana, Senegal and i'vory coast, these countries soldiers are not facing any insurgency threat for now.
And honestly, Nigeria's service rifles are very poor...the AK's are old, at least Ghana and Senegal use M-16 series.
The battle is not only Chad's.

The M16 first came out in the early 60's,however in its current multi faceted modernised format is it better than than the AK47❓

It's a matter of debate it has less recoil and is far more accurate with a longer effective range. But it's not as resilient as the AK47 and or reliable and needs too much TLC.

However there are so many different licensed and unlicensed makers of the AK 47 and as such there are huge disparities in quality.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 12:32pm On Apr 20, 2020
Ken006:
look at protective equipment of the Ghana army squads
In this picture, and the subsequent ones posted, there are those without body armour
And u know, some people dont see helmet as a real protection, rather an additional weight to the head..
And beside, we see pictures of Nigerian soldier equipped with helm and vest when goin on op.
Sometimes it not the military inadequacies when u see soldier not in helm or vest, it soldiers choice.. after having patrolled for hours kitted without contact, u get tempted to remove the load

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 12:32pm On Apr 20, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:



Lol we are now Chadians? grin grin grin My brother then there is no need for us getting Angry when ISWAP runs down FOBs and kill our gallant men.

Someone is not Happy our Soldiers are not wearing bulletproofs and Helmet and you bring a Chadian perspective. Too bad embarassed embarassed embarassed

Baba grin grin grin
no the guy dey vex why we for dey wear Vest and helmet...
grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 12:34pm On Apr 20, 2020
komekn:


The M16 first came out in the early 60's,however in its current multi faceted modernised format is it better than than the AK47❓

It's a matter of debate it has less recoil and is far more accurate with a longer effective range. But it's not as resilient as the AK47 and or reliable and needs too much TLC.

However there are so many different licensed and unlicensed makers of the AK 47 and as such there are huge disparities in quality.
Infact, real Ak may lack in accuracy and range, but it makes up for it in reliabilty... if stuck in mud or driven over by a tank, the AK can still work

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 12:35pm On Apr 20, 2020
GeneralFarouq:

In this picture, and the subsequent ones posted, there are those without body armour
And u know, some people dont see helmet as a real protection, rather an additional weight to the head..
And beside, we see pictures of Nigerian soldier equipped with helm and vest when goin on op.
Sometimes it not the military inadequacies when u see soldier not in helm or vest, it soldiers choice.. after having patrolled for hours kitted without contact, u get tempted to remove the load
thank u...in a scotching temperature u still dey reason vest and helmet grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 12:35pm On Apr 20, 2020
I quite recently put in a fairly substantive post on this subject of UAV, but it seems to have gone missing.

That's a first for me.

I have often said the first casualty of war is the TRUTH.

Versions of the truth to suit each party become widespread and very difficult to corroborate. More so when you don't have independent unrestricted news media covering events sometimes live.

Drones, UAV'S are shot down all the time it is a contest between air defences counter technologies and the capacity of the enemy. So which is the best UAV it's a question of who your enemy is.

In the case of Nigeria, Boko is a rag tag army without the capacity to hit a UAV particularly one flying above 5k feet. You probably can't see it or even hear it.

The UAV war is really a technology war played out on essentially PS4 consoles, sometimes 000,s of miles from the actual battlefield. It's almost virtual but with a real life impact.

So as much as we like to rubbish keyboard warriors and game players. These are the nerds being recruited for the next level of modern warfare.

FYI information before you even fire a ATGM hand held or otherwise system you will spend hours on a console same thing for tank commanders. The amount of computer based simulation for combatants these days is astounding.

Again l admit to complete ignorance as to the training methodology in the Nigerian armed forces. The British and American yes so forgive my latent bias.

Attached a few reports on UAV in Libya according to USA, UAE and Egypt supported Haftar they have shot down 50 Turkish UAV"s.

Who will you believe, like l said first casualty of any war is the TRUTH. Which means you have to dig deep to find it, if you or anybody really wants the truth. And many people just want the fantasy not the bitter painful truth.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 12:37pm On Apr 20, 2020
SerikinGamo:


You don’t need an account, try another browser
Okay ,will try thanks
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SerikinGamo: 12:42pm On Apr 20, 2020
What baffles me each time I go through this thread and the other is the audacity with which people who have zero idea or knowledge about military operations give their ill thought out, half baked opinions about military issues.

I can never understand how people who can’t even say properly what a rifle is, think they know better than a commander, on the field, with several years of experience in combat, all from a very short video shot from one angle.

How do you even do this?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by slimthugchimee2(m): 12:46pm On Apr 20, 2020
SerikinGamo:
What baffles me each time I go through this thread and the other is the audacity with which people who have zero idea or knowledge about military operations give their ill thought out, half baked opinions about military issues.

I can never understand how people who can’t even say properly what a rifle is, think they know better than a commander, on the field, with several years of experience in combat, all from a very short video shot from one angle.

How do you even do this?

You guys are the ones that have strength to argue, someone after playing call of duty thinks he now has military high grade training grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 12:52pm On Apr 20, 2020
KingAzubuike:

My question is why is the Nigerian army always repelling and not attacking?
Always changing questions when caught pant down excreting grin

Direct your question to Army HQ and DHQ please

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 12:54pm On Apr 20, 2020
Ken006:
look at protective equipment of the Ghana army squads
This thread is full of people posing with full gear too. Bring any pic of GA on ops

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 12:58pm On Apr 20, 2020
SerikinGamo:
What baffles me each time I go through this thread and the other is the audacity with which people who have zero idea or knowledge about military operations give their ill thought out, half baked opinions about military issues.

I can never understand how people who can’t even say properly what a rifle is, think they know better than a commander, on the field, with several years of experience in combat, all from a very short video shot from one angle.

How do you even do this?

They think it is Hollywood when bullets fired by the enemy 'miss road' but the ones fired by 'the goodies' are always on target. All you have to do is somersault a few times while releasing deadly fire. grin grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by blacKDalia: 1:03pm On Apr 20, 2020
KingAzubuike:

Do you have an idea you're talking to a MPhil holder Sha?

And so? You think we here are all primary sch cert holders? Mtcheeew.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 1:28pm On Apr 20, 2020
SerikinGamo:


You don’t need an account, try another browser
YIu are right, it the browser... it worked on chrome but not on UC
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Smoke47: 1:29pm On Apr 20, 2020
SerikinGamo:
What baffles me each time I go through this thread and the other is the audacity with which people who have zero idea or knowledge about military operations give their ill thought out, half baked opinions about military issues.

I can never understand how people who can’t even say properly what a rifle is, think they know better than a commander, on the field, with several years of experience in combat, all from a very short video shot from one angle.

How do you even do this?
they are people who are knowledgeable about military doctrines and tactics, but never served. That doesn't make them a whimp. We live in a global age, where informations are readily available online, and on books. Alot seem to make misguided statements, that doesn't mean they are not intelligent contributions amongst some of them. So if a military commander "FUps" especially here in Nigeria where we see a lot of wrongs. It's only proper those "FUps" are addressed.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Vulcan24(m): 1:32pm On Apr 20, 2020
Smoke47:
they are people who are knowledgeable about military doctrines and tactics, but never served. That doesn't make them a whimp. We live in a global age, where informations are readily available online, and on books. Alot seem to make misguided statements, that doesn't mean they are not intelligent contributions amongst some of them. So if a military commander "FUps" especially here in Nigeria where we see a lot of wrongs. It's only proper those "FUps" are addressed.

u re right and it's same in all profession

we av seen a sector of an industry disservicing ppl for years untill ppl complain and it led to reform

so been on d job doesn't make u infallible

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by klhazhik(m): 1:35pm On Apr 20, 2020
SerikinGamo:
What baffles me each time I go through this thread and the other is the audacity with which people who have zero idea or knowledge about military operations give their ill thought out, half baked opinions about military issues.

I can never understand how people who can’t even say properly what a rifle is, think they know better than a commander, on the field, with several years of experience in combat, all from a very short video shot from one angle.

How do you even do this?

Some people really have time replying those numbskulls.

Well, I don't really blame them, that's one of the side effect of too much Hollywood movies and Video games.

One was even claiming he's a MPhil holder, like that means he now knows how to Properly carry out operations plus, he now understands Soldiers reactions and actions on the battlefield...

Very funny grin grin grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Smoke47: 1:43pm On Apr 20, 2020
Vulcan24:


u re right and it's same in all profession

we av seen a sector of an industry disservicing ppl for years untill ppl complain and it led to reform

so been on d job doesn't make u infallible
yeah that's true. People are becoming more versatile and eager to learn new things. There was a time in the world where if you do not belong to a certain "profession" you couldn't say jack sh:t about it, but not in today's world. Knowledge is available everywhere.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Fynline(m): 2:43pm On Apr 20, 2020
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 2:53pm On Apr 20, 2020
KingAzubuike:

My question is why is the Nigerian army always repelling and not attacking?

Very pertinent question, the narrative from our NA is predominantly reactive not proactive. As a consequence we seem to have a defensive posture always repelling.

However, to some asking that question in itself is unpatriotic as you will come to notice.

But please keep asking the right questions that see through haze of emotive bias.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:59pm On Apr 20, 2020
komekn:


Very pertinent question, the narrative from our NA is predominantly reactive not proactive. As a consequence we seem to have a defensive posture always repelling.

However, to some asking that question in itself is unpatriotic as you will come to notice.

But please keep asking the right questions that see through haze of emotive bias.

You have said it all cool

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Fynline(m): 3:09pm On Apr 20, 2020

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 3:20pm On Apr 20, 2020
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 3:29pm On Apr 20, 2020
SerikinGamo:
What baffles me each time I go through this thread and the other is the audacity with which people who have zero idea or knowledge about military operations give their ill thought out, half baked opinions about military issues.

I can never understand how people who can’t even say properly what a rifle is, think they know better than a commander, on the field, with several years of experience in combat, all from a very short video shot from one angle.

How do you even do this?

As a man thinketh so he is.

You have made a very wide assumption based on what , your own self birthed assumptions.

First of all everybody is largely anonymous on this thread so you have no idea about anybody's background, knowledge base and transferable skill set in reality.

If you do not know , talk for yourself not anybody else.

As they say "Ignorance is bliss"

You can have several decades of long standing ineptitude and incompetence that doesn't by longevity transfer to knowledge and outstanding ability, because you have the designation of commander. This more true of very tribalised, politicized garnished with nepotism armed forces as we have in most African nations.

My two pennies.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ablemax(m): 3:41pm On Apr 20, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:



Not everyone must be a military personnel before making comments. The beauty of this thread is our opinions on military matters. I am not a military personnel but i have been to 23 out of the 27 LGAs and have spent close to four years here in Borno. Them suppose even give me Bulama self grin grin

I have made friends with lots of Military personnel here in the NE and i have lost some to these Unnecessary war sad

Asking why a commander is not with his Rifle does not mean we are not Patriotic Nigerians grin grin




An what's stopping you from visiting the the remaining (4) Na ....

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by AskiaHarem(m): 3:44pm On Apr 20, 2020
Nigeria has done a more sufficient job at containing BokoHarem than NATO has done at containing Al Qaeda in the Middle East which has spread like wildfire. Not to mention BokoHarem is rated a more dangerous group.

The fact of the matter is If BokoHarem had spawned or set there primary sites on any other nation within Africa with the exception of maybe South Africa, Egypt, or Algeria that nation would have been overrun and decimated by the end of that year; some month.

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