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Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 6:45am On Apr 22, 2020
So, this morning, I have been thinking a lot about Nigeria, and palliatives.

A lot of videos have been posted online recently showing Nigerians showing their stimulus packages, and cursing the Nigerian government for being so evil as to give their people nothing, and naturally, a lot of people will curse the Nigerian government, and blame our 'corrupt leaders'

Well, the problem is, corruption aside, we are not a rich country.

Our budget for this year was $26 billion dollars....based on oil being at $50 per barrel (which is not going to happen now). Our reserves stands at $34billion dollars. Excess crude account is a few billion dollars.

Our budget, as it stands can only pay Nigerians a stimulus package of N50000 each, assuming each and every one of the 200 million people gets a cheque of N50000, for a month.

Meanwhile, Canada, where most of us, including me, want to run to, has a budget of $355billion. For 34 million people.

The truth is, we are not a rich country. Rich countries do not rely on one source of income, they rely on diversified sources of income. Here in Nigeria, our economic development has always been based on what raw materials we sell. Yesterday it was agriculture, today it is oil.

And we use the revenue of what we export to import stuff at a value greater than what we export. And we then act surprised when we have to start taking loans.

Look, if we stopped looting, and WE MUST STOP LOOTING.....that still leaves us with the fact that our budget is 26billion dollars...which is far less than the budget deficit of the state of Mississippi, USA.(Which by the way is one of the US's poorest states).

Even if we did not vote for Buhari, and God knows I wish we did not vote for him, or the PDP...but for a party led by technocrats...there is the fact that we are not earning a budget enough to take care of 200million people.

Let's face facts. Our country cannot pay palliatives for 200million Nigerians. That they are paying some people some money is even a miracle....especially when they have to take loans to make up the resulting deficit.

Nigeria must become an industrial nation. We must vote for a leadership that will take us there. It is our only hope. We cannot remain hooked to oil forever.

P.S Just to emphasize....if we gave Nigerians , all Nigerians 20000 naira, our entire budget for the year would be depleted in three months. Where do we get money to pay salaries, etc when this crisis is over.

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by helinues: 6:49am On Apr 22, 2020
Apart from oil,which other natural resources have we explored?

Even the oil,how many have we detected?

Nigeria is fuckingly rich just that we had/have slowpokes in the helm of affairs

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by chillex8(m): 6:50am On Apr 22, 2020
Nigeria’s problem is over population.
I have always maintained this stand.

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 6:53am On Apr 22, 2020
helinues:
Apart from oil,which other natural resources have we explored?

Even the oil,how many have we detected?

Nigeria is fuckingly rich just that we had/have slowpokes in the helm of affairs

Mind, it isn't just exploring oil

1.We have to use our available resources to build our industrial capacity.

2.Exploiting raw materials and selling them won't help much. We don;t control the prices of most commodities, meaning when prices fall, our economy will still be vulnerable.(and if we start exporting them enmasse, prices will fall, because glut)

3.Again, to be prosperous, we have to take the long road to becoming an industrial nation. It is our only hope of being rich enough.

4.And the only way to make billions from agriculture is by large scale mechanized farming, not subsistence farming.

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by helinues: 6:54am On Apr 22, 2020
chillex8:
Nigeria’s problem is over population.
I have always maintained this stand.

grin grin

Then what's the problem of China with 1bn+ population?

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by helinues: 6:55am On Apr 22, 2020
kikero:


Mind, it isn't just exploring oil

1.We have to use our available resources to build our industrial capacity.

2.Exploiting raw materials and selling them won't help much. We don;t control the prices of most commodities, meaning when prices fall, our economy will still be vulnerable.(and if we start exporting them enmasse, prices will fall, because glut)

3.Again, to be prosperous, we have to take the long road to becoming an industrial nation. It is our only hope of being rich enough.

4.And the only way to make billions from agriculture is by large scale mechanized farming, not subsistence farming.

Nigeria is fuckingly rich just that we had/have slowpokes in the helm of affairs
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 6:56am On Apr 22, 2020
chillex8:
Nigeria’s problem is over population.
I have always maintained this stand.

China and Japan are overpopulated, but they used their population to their advantage....by making them more productive via investment in industries and in investing in technical and vocational education.

In Nigeria, we all go to school to get a universtiy degree, and compete when we graduate for limited civil service jobs, and when we can't get the job, we run off to developed countries who have invested in their industrial development, and have job surplus as a result to work there, and develop their industries.

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by 171819Robor: 6:59am On Apr 22, 2020
helinues:


Nigeria is fuckingly rich just that we had/have slowpokes in the helm of affairs

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by helinues: 7:04am On Apr 22, 2020
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No creativity.. always regurgitating their old trash.

So you have switched moniker as if na bank account you dey switch to? undecided embarassed
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by bigiyaro(m): 7:16am On Apr 22, 2020
OP, you are as myopic as Nigerian leaders, did you know that davido's dad just bought a jet of 64 million dollars before this lockdown shit started? if someone that can afford a 64mil dollars pays his personal income tax regularly in naija, it will go a very long way, you see all those people contributing billions , their taxes no be joke, Nigeria can pay each citizen above 18 years of age the sum of 250k without any wahala.

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by donbachi(m): 7:17am On Apr 22, 2020
"Giant of Africa" for mouth..oil prices don dey drop globally like a Naija girl's love for a broke dude...soon the entire world will be driving electric cars and oil go be d same price with chewing gum..na dat time nigeria go knowo wetin she do her sef.

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by 171819Robor: 7:51am On Apr 22, 2020
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helinues:


No creativity.. always regurgitating their old trash.

So you have switched moniker as if na bank account you dey switch to? undecided embarassed

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by eruchboy(m): 7:52am On Apr 22, 2020
Nigeria is not poor but its cursed
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by joyandfaith: 8:10am On Apr 22, 2020
kikero:
So, this morning, I have been thinking a lot about Nigeria, and palliatives.

A lot of videos have been posted online recently showing Nigerians showing their stimulus packages, and cursing the Nigerian government for being so evil as to give their people nothing, and naturally, a lot of people will curse the Nigerian government, and blame our 'corrupt leaders'

Well, the problem is, corruption aside, we are not a rich country.

Our budget for this year was $26 billion dollars....based on oil being at $50 per barrel (which is not going to happen now). Our reserves stands at $34billion dollars. Excess crude account is a few billion dollars.

Our budget, as it stands can only pay Nigerians a stimulus package of N50000 each, assuming each and every one of the 200 million people gets a cheque of N50000, for a month.

Meanwhile, Canada, where most of us, including me, want to run to, has a budget of $355billion. For 34 million people.

The truth is, we are not a rich country. Rich countries do not rely on one source of income, they rely on diversified sources of income. Here in Nigeria, our economic development has always been based on what raw materials we sell. Yesterday it was agriculture, today it is oil.

And we use the revenue of what we export to import stuff at a value greater than what we export. And we then act surprised when we have to start taking loans.

Look, if we stopped looting, and WE MUST STOP LOOTING.....that still leaves us with the fact that our budget is 26billion dollars...which is far less than the budget deficit of the state of Mississippi, USA.(Which by the way is one of the US's poorest states).

Even if we did not vote for Buhari, and God knows I wish we did not vote for him, or the PDP...but for a party led by technocrats...there is the fact that we are not earning a budget enough to take care of 200million people.

Let's face facts. Our country cannot pay palliatives for 200million Nigerians. That they are paying some people some money is even a miracle....especially when they have to take loans to make up the resulting deficit.

Nigeria must become an industrial nation. We must vote for a leadership that will take us there. It is our only hope. We cannot remain hooked to oil forever.

P.S Just to emphasize....if we gave Nigerians , all Nigerians 20000 naira, our entire budget for the year would be depleted in three months. Where do we get money to pay salaries, etc when this crisis is over.


Nigeria is neither poor nor rich nation. there is maldistribution of wealth. people are being paid for doing nothing while those working are getting nothing. There is too much disparity in salaries between states and FG as well as across MDAs.
Trillions of naira are idle in private accounts. These funds are made available during elections to bribe voters. There are also unclaimed funds in banks due to death of account owners and banks are not helping next of kins to get those money.There are fewer genuine investors in Nigeria. Most investors are feeding on government pulse. Even people that are doing business with government are over-inflating the contracts.

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by mrvitalis(m): 8:13am On Apr 22, 2020
helinues:
Apart from oil,which other natural resources have we explored?

Even the oil,how many have we detected?

Nigeria is fuckingly rich just that we had/have slowpokes in the helm of affairs
It's funny how your type want Nigeria to develop when you think like this

So without natural resources Nigeria can't grow ?

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by mrvitalis(m): 8:14am On Apr 22, 2020
chillex8:
Nigeria’s problem is over population.
I have always maintained this stand.
Na lack of taxing is
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by mrvitalis(m): 8:15am On Apr 22, 2020
helinues:


Nigeria is fuckingly rich just that we had/have slowpokes in the helm of affairs
Can u challenge you .. ?
Let's assume you are president what would you do differently
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by mrvitalis(m): 8:17am On Apr 22, 2020
bigiyaro:
OP, you are as myopic as Nigerian leaders, did you know that davido's dad just bought a jet of 64 million dollars before this lockdown shit started? if someone that can afford a 64mil dollars pays his personal income tax regularly in naija, it will go a very long way, you see all those people contributing billions , their taxes no be joke, Nigeria can pay each citizen above 18 years of age the sum of 250k without any wahala.
250k to every 18 year old ...that's over 100 trillion hope y know

How much would the taxes come out ?

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 8:19am On Apr 22, 2020
joyandfaith:



Nigeria is neither poor nor rich nation. there is maldistribution of wealth. people are being paid for doing nothing while those working are getting nothing. There is too much disparity in salaries between states and FG as well as across MDAs.

Well, yeah, the civil service is bloated because people exepct the government to create jobs...ie create salary paying positions in the civil service. Which does not improve productivity.

Trillions of naira are idle in private accounts. These funds are made available during elections to bribe voters There are also unclaimed funds in banks due to death of account owners and banks are not helping next of kins to get those money.There are fewer genuine investors in Nigeria. Most investors are feeding on government pulse. Even people that are doing business with government are over-inflating the contracts.

That's because our economy is dependent on oil, not on taxation.

Since the money comes from digging oil out of the ground, and is shared as 'revenue' it is very easy for people to loot. Why waste time working for the people when you can just loot money, and replace it with next month's income from oil.

Whereas if govt was really depending on taxes, like they do in Europe and the US, they would be forced to make things work, or else.

Also our oil dependency is preventing us from seeing the benefits of increased industrial development and the blessings it could bring.
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 8:27am On Apr 22, 2020
bigiyaro:
OP, you are as myopic as Nigerian leaders, did you know that davido's dad just bought a jet of 64 million dollars before this lockdown shit started? if someone that can afford a 64mil dollars pays his personal income tax regularly in naija, it will go a very long way, you see all those people contributing billions , their taxes no be joke, Nigeria can pay each citizen above 18 years of age the sum of 250k without any wahala.

grin grin grin grin grin grin

1. A lot of very poor countries have very rich people. Plus, who told you Davido's papa is not paying his taxes?

2.Giving every Nigerian above 18 the sum of 250 thousand naira...amounts to 62.5 billion dollars in one month. That's far more than our budget and reserves put together.

So you want us to deplete our budget and reserves in one month to zero...to fufil your wish of every adult Nigerian getting 250,000 naira?? And keep in mind we may have to pay the same amount monthly for 3 months??

You people, please stop making me laugh.

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Toosure70: 8:29am On Apr 22, 2020
Na now you know
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by tevinsolt: 8:49am On Apr 22, 2020
I agree. The potential is obvious. Every morning I wake up, there's potential, and then I return back to bed, there's still potential. The problem is "Big Government"

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by helinues: 8:51am On Apr 22, 2020
mrvitalis:

It's funny how your type want Nigeria to develop when you think like this

So without natural resources Nigeria can't grow ?

So that we can continue borrowing.

Some of you people would be a worst class rep
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 8:58am On Apr 22, 2020
Nigeria can never go far with the kind of mentality we Nigeria have. We are mentally poor. Nigeria can never function as one peaceful country
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 9:02am On Apr 22, 2020
kikero:


China and Japan are overpopulated, but they used their population to their advantage....by making them more productive via investment in industries and in investing in technical and vocational education.

In Nigeria, we all go to school to get a universtiy degree, and compete when we graduate for limited civil service jobs, and when we can't get the job, we run off to developed countries who have invested in their industrial development, and have job surplus as a result to work there, and develop their industries.
Why won't u run to developed countries when govt will rather employ out of man know man than merit more than 80% of the time?
Why won't they run away when, they are overworked yet underpaid especially those in health.
What about engineers, they are in office, doing what exactly?

Just leave ordinary Nigerians alone and face your govt.
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 9:03am On Apr 22, 2020
sassysure:

Why won't u run to developed countries when govt will rather employ out of man know man than merit more than 80% of the time?
Why won't they run away when, they are overworked yet underpaid especially those in health.
What about engineers, they are in office, doing what exactly?

Just leave ordinary Nigerians alone and face your govt.

You people should vote for the right government...or better still form your party and run for office.

Canada can't take us all,
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by mrvitalis(m): 9:06am On Apr 22, 2020
helinues:


So that we can continue borrowing.

Some of you people would be a worst class rep
Oga pay for the services you want ...if we want good road we must all contribute to build it ...of we want airport we must pay for them that's how countries works
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by mrvitalis(m): 9:07am On Apr 22, 2020
helinues:


So that we can continue borrowing.

Some of you people would be a worst class rep
So I don't want to pay for the good roads u want , u want world class hospitals for free ? ....unless u have ways we can produce 130 million barrels of oil per day then we all have to pay tax

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Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by juman(m): 9:10am On Apr 22, 2020
Oh my God.
I hate this nigeria to the core of my mind.

This is a country with all potentials but lack good leaders.
Two hundred millions people is enough as great asset.

But the most useless among us are leading us.

Obviosly one nigeria is a mistake.
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Nobody: 9:13am On Apr 22, 2020
kikero:
So, this morning, I have been thinking a lot about Nigeria, and palliatives.

A lot of videos have been posted online recently showing Nigerians showing their stimulus packages, and cursing the Nigerian government for being so evil as to give their people nothing, and naturally, a lot of people will curse the Nigerian government, and blame our 'corrupt leaders'

Well, the problem is, corruption aside, we are not a rich country.

Our budget for this year was $26 billion dollars....based on oil being at $50 per barrel (which is not going to happen now). Our reserves stands at $34billion dollars. Excess crude account is a few billion dollars.

Our budget, as it stands can only pay Nigerians a stimulus package of N50000 each, assuming each and every one of the 200 million people gets a cheque of N50000, for a month.

Meanwhile, Canada, where most of us, including me, want to run to, has a budget of $355billion. For 34 million people.

The truth is, we are not a rich country. Rich countries do not rely on one source of income, they rely on diversified sources of income. Here in Nigeria, our economic development has always been based on what raw materials we sell. Yesterday it was agriculture, today it is oil.

And we use the revenue of what we export to import stuff at a value greater than what we export. And we then act surprised when we have to start taking loans.

Look, if we stopped looting, and WE MUST STOP LOOTING.....that still leaves us with the fact that our budget is 26billion dollars...which is far less than the budget deficit of the state of Mississippi, USA.(Which by the way is one of the US's poorest states).

Even if we did not vote for Buhari, and God knows I wish we did not vote for him, or the PDP...but for a party led by technocrats...there is the fact that we are not earning a budget enough to take care of 200million people.

Let's face facts. Our country cannot pay palliatives for 200million Nigerians. That they are paying some people some money is even a miracle....especially when they have to take loans to make up the resulting deficit.

Nigeria must become an industrial nation. We must vote for a leadership that will take us there. It is our only hope. We cannot remain hooked to oil forever.

P.S Just to emphasize....if we gave Nigerians , all Nigerians 20000 naira, our entire budget for the year would be depleted in three months. Where do we get money to pay salaries, etc when this crisis is over.

With good leadership (even 'corrupt' good leadership), all we need is impact spending. Not to 'share the money' as it were.

Impact spending, following strategic planning and sleek/competent application, would stimulate productivity in the economy, which will in turn expand income base and purchasing power across board. The result would be a trickle down effect that would put money in people's pockets.

It's not rocket science.

Money is never enough to go round. But prudent, or at least strategic and COMPETENT allocation of resources in the right places can go a long way.
Re: Nigeria Is A Poor Country by Freddykrueger: 9:14am On Apr 22, 2020
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helinues:


Nigeria is fuckingly rich just that we had/have slowpokes in the helm of affairs
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Slowpokes humans of your ilk dumbly voted into power?

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