Please permit me maximus69 to step out and do other things for I have been going on here since Saturday night but you can DM me. I would surely answer once I SEE the mail.

Do forgive me for any delay as I have many other engagements I am still yet to accomplish.

Maximus69:


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa my friend!

For instance, as a graduate with first class, your parents spent their last penny to see you through school then you searched for a job but you can't secure one, then you got a security job in a rich man's mansion only for the man's young mistress to start demanding for sex from you!

If you decline her offer you can loose your job, she can even accuse you of making advances at her, to crown it all she began treating you well behind her husband and planning with you to kill the rich old man so that both of you can inherit his wealth!

Please tell me the name of Pastor, Imam, Babalawo, relation or friend that will tell you to decline such offer! Then go back to our question again, do people truly know how to distinguish between good and evil?"

Just a quick one here on this issue, it is already in the Bible how to Overcome All types Of Temptations upto the point that they can no longer tempt you (like no one can threaten an old woman with pregnancy or no one can tempt a blind man with a mirror).

But you would need to grow to that level and I am a witness to this. And when you get there, you would see the truth that "the steps of the Righteous are Always Ordered (Directed and Controlled) by the Lord" Psalm 37:23.

And the you shall see the full joy of Psalm 139 especially verses 2-10; and verse 13

Dtruthspeaker:


Just a quick one here on this issue, it is already in the Bible how to Overcome All types Of Temptations upto the point that they can no longer tempt you (like no one can threaten an old woman with pregnancy or no one can tempt a blind man with a mirror).

But you would need to grow to that level and I am a witness to this. And when you get there, you would see the truth that "the steps of the Righteous are Always Ordered (Directed and Controlled) by the Lord" Psalm 37:23.

And the you shall see the full joy of Psalm 139 especially verses 2-10; and verse 13

At the bolded!

So you mean Adam and Eve never knew the good and evil that day, but we (there descendants) have learnt enough through past events as recorded in the Bible for us shey?

That means humans are now playing Scrabble in their brains to know how to escape from circumstances due to past experience of those who have passed through the same situation!

My guy in reality, Adam and Eve became blind (spiritually speaking) the day they chose to alienate themselves from their Creator! John 9:40-41

OLAADEGBU:


The Struggle Is Not New

Habakkuk understood that the Lord in his omniscience sees all things good and evil, but that he does not look upon the sins of men with pleasure and approval. “You who are of purer eyes than to see evil and cannot look at wrong” (Habakkuk 1:13).

But he struggled with reconciling God’s purity and holiness and understanding his justice in permitting the sinful acts of men and what they did to God’s people, but all as a part of fulfilling God’s eternal plan.

We must understand that though we as fallible humans can’t reconcile these (just as the prophet agonized over), nonetheless we must accept there will one day be an ultimate reconciliation when we are all with the Lord in glory. At the present time, we “see in a mirror dimly” (1 Corinthians 13:12).

Let me emphasize again¬—God is never the cause of sin. God’s Word teaches “Let no one say when he is tempted, ‘I am being tempted by God,’ for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one” (James 1:13).

Also, in Romans 5:12 we read, “Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” .

It’s important to understand that God is not responsible for sin, we are! We sinned in Adam. So why did God decree to permit sin then? Well the answer is we just don’t know.

So though we can’t fully reconcile it, the decrees of God do not deny the existence of free agents and their sinful actions, and yet though God has given us this freedom, he is sovereign over it all so that what he has decreed comes to pass. Now at this stage, I can hear someone saying, “But how can God decree everything and yet hold us as humans responsible for our actions? God seems to be unjust and unfair. How can he do this?”

Ah, but God knew we would ask that question. And he has given us his answer:

You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honourable use and another for dishonourable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory—even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles. (Romans 9:19–24)
We cannot grasp the ultimate working of God’s mind. As we read in Daniel:

All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and he does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, “What have you done?” (Daniel 4:35)

The point is that all the decrees of God are unconditional and sovereign. In no way are God’s decrees dependent in any sense on what humans might or might not do. They’re only dependent on God’s will and purpose. At the same time, he works through the free actions of men to bring to pass that which he has determined.

While we live bound by time on this earth, we cannot understand this but must accept it.

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So What Has This Got to Do with the Coronavirus?

Well, now that we understand more about God Himself and how He works, let us consider one of the attributes of God—His goodness. This helps us understand a very important aspect of the original creation, when God said everything He made was “very good” (Genesis 1:31). We need to understand what is meant by “good.” Consider this passage:

And a ruler asked Him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.” (Luke 18:18–19)

Jesus was telling the man asking the question that He is God, as only God is good. God is infinitely good and the source of all goodness. There are numerous passages that teach us about the goodness of God.

And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, “The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth.” (Exodus 34:6)

God is a God of infinite love:

But God shows His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent His only Son into the world, so that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we have loved God but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (1 John 4:7–10)
We can also look at Jesus (who is God and is the Creator of all things) and see His nature: He healed the sick; He wept at Lazarus tomb; He raised the dead; He had compassion on people.

When He went ashore He saw a great crowd, and He had compassion on them and healed their sick. (Matthew 14:14)

God makes it clear in His Word that the reason for sickness, pain, and suffering is because we live in a groaning world as a result of our sin:

For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. (Romans 8:22)

We are also told that one day there will be a restoration of all things (Acts 3:21). We read of this restoration:

He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away. (Revelation 21:4)

It’s important to understand that God created everything He made “very good.” There was no death, suffering, or disease. This means viruses and bacteria were not disease forming originally. In fact, most bacteria and viruses in today’s fallen world do not cause diseases but have specific good purposes. Scientists are finding that viruses seem to have an important role in transfer of genetic information. So there were no coronavirus-caused diseases in the “very good” world God created.

GOD DOES NOT CALL THE DISEASE-CAUSING CORONAVIRUS “VERY GOOD.”

Now this fact needs to be considered carefully by those who believe the fossil record was laid down over millions of years before man. The fossil record is a record of death, with evidence of animals eating each other and evidence of diseases like cancer in the bones of creatures. If a Christian believes the fossil record is millions of years old, then they are, in essence, stating that God calls death and disease “very good.” Thus disease-causing viruses like this novel coronavirus would be “very good.” Now all viruses were “very good” originally, but because of our sin in Adam, now there’s death, disease, bloodshed, and suffering in the world! God does not call the disease-causing coronavirus “very good.”

Now could God be allowing the coronavirus situation as judgment? Yes, that is possible (though we can’t say for sure). Throughout the Old Testament there are many examples of God using various means, including pestilence, to bring judgment on people because of wickedness. And there is much wickedness in our world today that God will righteously judge one day.

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Maximus69:


At the bolded!

So you mean Adam and Eve never knew the good and evil that day, but we (there descendants) have learnt enough through past events as recorded in the Bible for us shey?

That means humans are now playing Scrabble in their brains to know how to escape from circumstances due to past experience of those who have passed through the same situation!

My guy in reality, Adam and Eve became blind (spiritually speaking) the day they chose to alienate themselves from their Creator! John 9:40-41

They never knew! And the proof of it is told "and the eyes of them both were opened" Genesis 3:7 an experience we his Descendants even know very well. Remember that experience when your eye opened-eg "so I can drive daddy's car or so I fit toast Rozz, this one wey Chu don toast Mari finish", so many eyes opening events.

If you take all these E.O events you would see one thing that they all have in common is that at one moment "You Knew Not" and then after E O, "You Knew".

So it was for Adam and Eve but there were also other things that played out before the E.O and what was in Adam's mind was not the same as Eve's. And this is Seen in the Judgement God meted out on them as I have seen that God took account of it and weighed it.

Based on those weights, Adam's punishment was different from Eve's.

MuttleyLaff:
Liked and concur

Liked and concur

Everything created by God can be perverted, misused and/or abused by Man and the Devil

CYM or holla when you're good.

Finallydead:
CYM or holla when you're good.

Sorry, wifi, just decided to be playing up right now, one sec please

Maximus69:


That means humans are now playing Scrabble in their brains to know how to escape from circumstances due to past experience of those who have passed through the same situation!

My guy in reality, Adam and Eve became blind (spiritually speaking) the day they chose to alienate themselves from their Creator! John 9:40-41

Observe your fellow man closely, watch his moments of decision and see the direction of his inclinations in reference to good and evil!

I think, respectably, that you are the one "scrabbling" because you desire to do the good in compliance with God's Laws But the doing of wrong is so natural and flows very easily and the doing of it is so wickedly easy, (you don't even have to think about it) very sweet and very overwhelming.
I was there and I know it very well but to the heartfelt Praise to God, I escaped and that's why I able to say confidently all I say.

To explain the weight of the doing of wrong over right let me present it this way- if you are right handed how long would it take you to change to the left hand? Would it be easy? And until you perfect it, which one would come naturally to you?

That is the work which every soul must go through, to FULLY and WILLFULLY "mount up with wings as Eagles; they shall run, and not be weary: and they shall walk, and shall not faint." Isaiah 4:31

That verse shows you another secret of God- king David again Repeated, "Wait, I say, on the Lord" Psalm 27:14.

After you've done all you can, that is call on the Lord, His Commandments and remembered His Judgements to do them, then Stand! Donnie Mcclurking song "Stand".

Maximus69

Another song which taught me was "in the Lord alone- Maranatha Singers"

"In the Lord, the Lord alone
Are righteousness and strength
The height and breadth and length
Of love is found in Him
In the Lord, the Lord alone
Are righteousness and strength
In the Lord, in the Lord alone"

The Powerful word there for you is STRENGTH!

Another one is "He will come and save you-Bob Fitts".

You've got to know and remember all these!

OLAADEGBU:


So What Has This Got to Do with the Coronavirus?

Well, now that we understand more about God Himself and how He works, let us consider one of the attributes of God—His goodness. This helps us understand a very important aspect of the original creation, when God said everything He made was “very good” (Genesis 1:31). We need to understand what is meant by “good.” Consider this passage:

And a ruler asked Him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.” (Luke 18:18–19)

Jesus was telling the man asking the question that He is God, as only God is good. God is infinitely good and the source of all goodness. There are numerous passages that teach us about the goodness of God.

And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, “The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth.” (Exodus 34:6)

God is a God of infinite love:

But God shows His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent His only Son into the world, so that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we have loved God but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (1 John 4:7–10)
We can also look at Jesus (who is God and is the Creator of all things) and see His nature: He healed the sick; He wept at Lazarus tomb; He raised the dead; He had compassion on people.

When He went ashore He saw a great crowd, and He had compassion on them and healed their sick. (Matthew 14:14)

God makes it clear in His Word that the reason for sickness, pain, and suffering is because we live in a groaning world as a result of our sin:

For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. (Romans 8:22)

We are also told that one day there will be a restoration of all things (Acts 3:21). We read of this restoration:

He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away. (Revelation 21:4)

It’s important to understand that God created everything He made “very good.” There was no death, suffering, or disease. This means viruses and bacteria were not disease forming originally. In fact, most bacteria and viruses in today’s fallen world do not cause diseases but have specific good purposes. Scientists are finding that viruses seem to have an important role in transfer of genetic information. So there were no coronavirus-caused diseases in the “very good” world God created.

GOD DOES NOT CALL THE DISEASE-CAUSING CORONAVIRUS “VERY GOOD.”

Now this fact needs to be considered carefully by those who believe the fossil record was laid down over millions of years before man. The fossil record is a record of death, with evidence of animals eating each other and evidence of diseases like cancer in the bones of creatures. If a Christian believes the fossil record is millions of years old, then they are, in essence, stating that God calls death and disease “very good.” Thus disease-causing viruses like this novel coronavirus would be “very good.” Now all viruses were “very good” originally, but because of our sin in Adam, now there’s death, disease, bloodshed, and suffering in the world! God does not call the disease-causing coronavirus “very good.”

Now could God be allowing the coronavirus situation as judgment? Yes, that is possible (though we can’t say for sure). Throughout the Old Testament there are many examples of God using various means, including pestilence, to bring judgment on people because of wickedness. And there is much wickedness in our world today that God will righteously judge one day.

For More

Who Is the Devil?

The Bible is not a book about angels—it’s primarily a book about God and His relationship to man. So we don’t have a lot of details about angelic beings. Presumably, they (including Satan) came into existence at some time during the creation of all things as Colossians 1:16 tells us, “For by Him [Jesus] all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through Him and for Him.” It makes sense that God created Satan (the devil) at this time.

Also, Genesis 1:31 makes it clear that everything God created was “very good.” So all beings originally must have been “very good.” Now in 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6, we read that at some stage certain angels rebelled and fell into wickedness.

And in Genesis 3:1 we read that the devil came to Eve to get Adam and Eve to doubt God’s Word (God’s clear instruction to Adam to not eat the fruit of one tree as an act of obedience) and become their own gods—deciding what is “right” and “wrong” for themselves. Now Adam was the one given the instruction by God, and so when Adam took the fruit, he chose to listen to Satan and set himself above God, putting the whole world (including the human race) under the “power of the evil one” (1 John 5:19). The Bible makes it clear that through Adam came sin, and through sin came death. Thus our sin in Adam is responsible for all the harmful things (such as a disease-causing coronavirus) that happen in this world.

Here are some verses of Scripture that describe the devil (my emphasis):

in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience. (Ephesians 2:2)

In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (2 Corinthians 4:4)

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. (Ephesians 6:12)

We can sum up what we know about the devil this way: The devil’s power is tremendous. He is a tyrant and dominates unredeemed humanity because of what we in Adam did. All human beings have been defeated by the devil just as our ancestor Adam, as a perfect man, was defeated by him. The devil deceives minds, blinds men, and persuades the human race to hate God. No human can stand against him. Man became the slave of the devil. It’s only those who have trusted Christ for salvation who can have victory over the devil. The devil is a defeated foe—defeated at the cross when Christ suffered the penalty for sin and rose from the dead.

Now having said that, we also need to understand that the devil cannot do anything that God doesn’t allow. Consider:

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. The LORD said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.” And the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear God for no reason? Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.” And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD. (Job 1:6–12)

Satan had to ask permission of God to inflict harm on Job and was allowed to do so, but only within the limits God Himself had set.

Is the devil responsible for the coronavirus?

It’s certainly possible (and we don’t know) that God has allowed Satan to use the coronavirus to try to inflict harm on people and on the church. But if so, God permitted this and will use it for His purposes (Romans 8:28–30). God does allow circumstances to test us, try us, and train us (Hebrews 12). But Satan can only do what God allows as He is in ultimate control of everything.

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It is God that is responsible for the plague(Coronavirus).That is the truth(Dan 12:1).

OLAADEGBU:


Who Is the Devil?

The Bible is not a book about angels—it’s primarily a book about God and His relationship to man. So we don’t have a lot of details about angelic beings. Presumably, they (including Satan) came into existence at some time during the creation of all things as Colossians 1:16 tells us, “For by Him [Jesus] all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through Him and for Him.” It makes sense that God created Satan (the devil) at this time.

Also, Genesis 1:31 makes it clear that everything God created was “very good.” So all beings originally must have been “very good.” Now in 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6, we read that at some stage certain angels rebelled and fell into wickedness.

And in Genesis 3:1 we read that the devil came to Eve to get Adam and Eve to doubt God’s Word (God’s clear instruction to Adam to not eat the fruit of one tree as an act of obedience) and become their own gods—deciding what is “right” and “wrong” for themselves. Now Adam was the one given the instruction by God, and so when Adam took the fruit, he chose to listen to Satan and set himself above God, putting the whole world (including the human race) under the “power of the evil one” (1 John 5:19). The Bible makes it clear that through Adam came sin, and through sin came death. Thus our sin in Adam is responsible for all the harmful things (such as a disease-causing coronavirus) that happen in this world.

Here are some verses of Scripture that describe the devil (my emphasis):

in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience. (Ephesians 2:2)

In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (2 Corinthians 4:4)

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. (Ephesians 6:12)

We can sum up what we know about the devil this way: The devil’s power is tremendous. He is a tyrant and dominates unredeemed humanity because of what we in Adam did. All human beings have been defeated by the devil just as our ancestor Adam, as a perfect man, was defeated by him. The devil deceives minds, blinds men, and persuades the human race to hate God. No human can stand against him. Man became the slave of the devil. It’s only those who have trusted Christ for salvation who can have victory over the devil. The devil is a defeated foe—defeated at the cross when Christ suffered the penalty for sin and rose from the dead.

Now having said that, we also need to understand that the devil cannot do anything that God doesn’t allow. Consider:

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. The LORD said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.” And the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear God for no reason? Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.” And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD. (Job 1:6–12)

Satan had to ask permission of God to inflict harm on Job and was allowed to do so, but only within the limits God Himself had set.

Is the devil responsible for the coronavirus?

It’s certainly possible (and we don’t know) that God has allowed Satan to use the coronavirus to try to inflict harm on people and on the church. But if so, God permitted this and will use it for His purposes (Romans 8:28–30). God does allow circumstances to test us, try us, and train us (Hebrews 12). But Satan can only do what God allows as He is in ultimate control of everything.

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Who Is Man?

Humans are created beings—created in God’s image (Genesis 1:27). But humans are also sinners. Our sin in Adam (Romans 5:12) brought about the groaning world. So our sin resulted in death, disease, and suffering. Because of this, some viruses and bacteria now cause diseases. Thus a disease-causing coronavirus is not God’s fault—it’s our fault.

Romans 8:22 tells us, “For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now.” The whole creation was brought under a curse because of Adam’s sin (and our sin in Adam). This curse will be removed in the eternal state when Christ will restore the creation to the way it was in the beginning.

SO, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CORONAVIRUS? GOD, MAN, OR THE DEVIL?

So, who is responsible for the coronavirus? God, man, or the devil?

The one true God exists in eternity and decreed He would create a perfect universe with a planet teeming with life that was all very good. He also decreed He would make Adam & Eve in His image, to propagate the human race. In eternity past, He decreed He would permit sin for His purposes, knowing death, disease, and suffering would ensue because of man’s actions. He created angelic beings, including Satan, for His purposes, knowing that Satan would tempt man to fall into sin. God had determined in eternity through all this to redeem a people as a bride for His Son. Human beings are free agents living on this earth, but nothing happens outside of God’s control, and everything that occurs will never and can never be inconsistent with the eternal decrees of God.

That puts the coronavirus in the right perspective.

Y0rubaPrince:


Chinese Communist Party

Imagine what can happen when atheists starts playing God.

aaking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGbYHJcMbz8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1tGk2TWcB60OnhR5ZoYf6ULedHT3hBN0UVQeJQCoKW8zYxPatv4b4lKc0

What was the videoclip about?

UceeGod:


God is Omniscient - He knew beforehand that a pandemic is coming
God is Omnipotent - He has the power to prevent or stop the crisis
God is Omnipresent - He is everywhere and very much and ultimately in control

Bottomline: God sometimes allows satan and his agents (including humans) to have their way so long it serves His good and glorious purpose.

Way to go! God is in perfect control.

Good question.