₦airaland Forum

Omooba77:
You know the way the law works, Federal controls virtually everything. Little or no autonomy exist for the State or Local. Why is it impossible for State to create Local Governments. 1999 constitution too ambigious sir. Electoral reform can only come from NASS and signed by the President

B - State Independent Electoral Commission

4. The Commission shall have power-

(a) to organise, undertake and supervise all elections to local government councils within the State.

(b) to render such advice as it may consider necessary to the Independent National Electoral Commission on the compilation of and the register of voters in so far as that register is applicable to local government elections in the State.

F - Independent National Electoral Commission

15. The Commission shall have power to -

(a) organise, undertake and supervise all elections to the offices of the President and Vice-President, the Governor and Deputy Governor of a State, and to the membership of the Senate, the House of Representatives and the House of Assembly of each State of the Federation;

(i) carry out such other functions as may be conferred upon it by an Act of the National Assembly.

Omooba77:
Who will pay all these debts? Just yesterday Senate approved N850bn loan for the Federal Government.
Now Nigeria’s Total Public Debt 2020 =N34,865,308,662,120.54.
My sincere question is Who will pay all these debts?

Blue3k:
The FG doesn't regulate local elections that's a fact. The constitution isn't ambigious on this if you read it. If you disagree cite the ambigious passage. If you want to start your reforms at the local level do so. If you dont care to focus on INEC.

Omooba77:
This is in paper, State still use INEC facility, I stay around Bariga so I know what operates around Queens college. The voters list used is same as INEC

F - Independent National Electoral Commission 

15. The Commission shall have power to - 

(e) arrange and conduct the registration of persons qualified to vote and prepare, maintain and revise the register of voters for the purpose of any election under this Constitution;

Omooba77:
Who will pay all these debts? Just yesterday Senate approved N850bn loan for the Federal Government.
Now Nigeria’s Total Public Debt 2020 =N34,865,308,662,120.54.
My sincere question is Who will pay all these debts?

Blue3k:
You're shifting the goalposts. They use the same voters list because they're legally obligated to. There's nothing stopping them from using their own facilities. The fact remains there's nothing stopping state electoral commissions from implementing the reforms.

kayfra:
Biafra will pay it. They are all billionaires

Omooba77:
I have cited the reason why states can not propose electoral reform without buying of NASS. are you still talking about Local Government election. Where you aware of Badagry LGA result publicly announced, but Gov. Fasola and co over turned the result claiming a party did not support creation of LCDA, so they cant benefit from it.
No opposition has won LGA elections in any state. Is that the reform. Not diverting from the topic, Why will pay all the debts?

Omooba77:
You know the way the law works, Federal controls virtually everything. Little or no autonomy exist for the State or Local. Why is it impossible for State to create Local Governments? 1999 constitution too ambigious sir. Electoral reform can only come from NASS and signed by the President

budaatum:
Didn't Lagos State create new local governments under Obj? They stuck 2 fingers up to the Federal Government if I remember correctly. That O-thief Aregbe created what I'd call, sub-local governments in my own Osun State too before he left, so it's not as impossible as you claim if the state is willing to bear the consequences.

Omooba77:
They have not been recognised, up till now we still have 774 Local governments in the country.
This is because this part of 1999 constitution must be fulfilled:

When the State creates new local government areas with a valid law, the National Assembly is
required to pass an Act to update the names and headquarters of such local government areas
created (Ogefere, 2006). The failure of the National Assembly to carry out this constitutional role
has held such valid law of the State ineffective (A-G of Lagos v. A-G of the Federation, 2004).
The implication of this is that the power granted by the constitution to the State can when
exercised be taken away.

budaatum:
You are absolutely correct that the Federal Government has not recognized them, but its still a fact they have been created.

Federal Government is wise not to recognise them since recognition would mean increasing allocation to the states that created them, which would just make a state create as many local governments as it can so it can get more money. If it were so easy, each family will be a local government in its own right.

kikero:
1.We run an economy based on exporting raw materials and using the revenue to import stuff that is in value higher than the value of our exports.

Kobojunkie:
This seems to answer your question. If you import more than you sell, you would need to find money elsewhere to balance out the cost of the imports, right?

Kobojunkie:
This seems to answer your question. If you import more than you sell, you would need to find money elsewhere to balance out the cost of the imports, right?

As to who will pay all the debts? Considering our ancestors and those before us had us enmasse to pay off their own "debts", who do you think? You think they had you because they loved you??

Omooba77:
Who will pay all these debts? Just yesterday Senate approved N850bn loan for the Federal Government.
Now Nigeria’s Total Public Debt 2020 =N34,865,308,662,120.54.
My sincere question is Who will pay all these debts?

According to some estimates, Nigeria has one of the world's lowest ratios of tax to GDP.

That is the total amount of tax collected as a proportion of GDP - the value of the country's goods and services.

In 2016, it was at 6%, going by figures from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), a grouping of the world's leading market economies.

That is the latest year for which data is available.

The tax-to-GDP ratio in South Africa was 29%, Ghana 18%, Egypt 15% and Kenya 18%, says the OECD.

The average for OECD members - which includes all the advanced economies - was 34%.

Blue3k:
I'm guessing you're talking about budgets. Nigeria has revenue shortfall hence the need to borrow. Nigeria has always been net exporter.

Kobojunkie:
This seems to answer your question. If you import more than you sell, you would need to find money elsewhere to balance out the cost of the imports, right?

As to who will pay all the debts? Considering our ancestors and those before us had us enmasse to pay off their own "debts", who do you think? You think they had you because they loved you??

Blue3k:
They have no legal authority to recognize these entities anyway. The process to create local government is clearly in stated. If one believes the states should be able to create as many local governments as they please then there shouldnt be manadtory allocation. Nigeria will just operate more like America afterwards.

kikero:
Well, as I said, we have to change from an economy based on exporting raw materials to an economy based on exporting industrial goods.

That's the only way we can earn enough cash to pay off debts. Oil and agruculture won't save us.

Omooba77:
We have to change our mindset, especially our leaders. Most of them will not wear Aba made shirts or shoe, neither will they use Kano produced leather bags. Japan has no commercial oil, but see what they are doing. The populace preferred playing pool, baba jebu rather than being productive.

AdaoraNK:
Give them little grants like N500, 000 to N2, 000,000 then you will only see few of the at baba ijebu or betting shops. Mind you, even in developed countries, they stake more on betting than our naija guys.

Omooba77:
Seun, I really like your comment, but how do we do the referendum. Electorates have little say.
New York borrowed to build underground rail, within somw years, the debt was paid
Likewise Sam Houston Circus, the money borrowed was in paid back. Look at BRT, they have not brake even not to talk of profit.

Blue3k:
I already explained how that works here and in depth in my thread on direct democracy. In order to have referendums the government needs to pass a law first. Specifically for bond issues the government has to restrain its powers to accumulate debt over certain limit with voter approval.

https://www.nairaland.com/5704281/direct-democracy-improve-nigeria-introducing