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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 11:48pm On May 01, 2020
Bodydialect57:


What about their, (lsrael) enslavement in Egypt for 430years which started as a sojourn?

Their enslavement did not start as a SORJOURN. Dont mind that mad man. Enslavement and sourjourn are not the same thing.

Their sorjourn began when Joseph revealed himself to his brothers. Enslavement began after Joeseph and his generation had died -Exodus 1:6-8

The mad man even said between Joeseph's death and the Exodus is 360 abi 400years. shocked

MuttleyLaff:


Joseph died at 1806 (i.e. Genesis 50:26) and the Israelities left Egypt at 1446.

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Let him show how he came about that from the scriptures. Not adding and subtracting fictitious numbers like a drunkard. Let him show me 400 years of affliction between the death of Joseph and Exodus in the bible.
Eg. Moses was 80 years at the Exodus (Exodus 7:7), so let him show me the remaining 320 years between Joseph's death and Moses' birth.

He is not well at all. Is he not looking for the 400 years of slavery or affliction as prophesied in Genesis 15:13 again?

Instead of confessing his lies, he is turning around like snake wey trap don catch. Today him agbada don hang for barbwire.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MiddleDimension: 12:32am On May 02, 2020
you all should stop quoting me repeatedly
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s6/images/Slavery.jpg[/img]

Chief, chief, donnie, you go school nah, you're biblical literate and you sabi do sums.

1/ What is a generation in bible language, hmm? Nobi 40 years, hmm?

2/ What year the Joseph die? Nobi 1806 ni, hmm?
3/ What does Exodus 1:6 say, hmm? Nobi that "After Joseph, his brothers, and everyone else in that generation had died, ", hmm?
4/ What is 30+1806+40, hmm? Nobi 1876, giving time the Israelites arrived at Egypt
(30 being time while still free and 40 being time for the brother and everyone to die after Joseph)

5/ What is (1806+40)-1446=? Equals 400 years slavery. Right there on point.
6/ What is (30+1806+40)-1446=? Equals 430 years total sojourn in Egypt.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by Finallydead: 2:46am On May 02, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s6/images/Slavery.jpg[/img]

Chief, chief, donnie, you go school nah, you're biblical literate and you sabi do sums.

1/ What is a generation in bible language, hmm? Nobi 40 years, hmm?

2/ What year the Joseph die? Nobi 1806 ni, hmm?
3/ What does Exodus 1:6 say, hmm? Nobi that "After Joseph, his brothers, and everyone else in that generation had died, ", hmm?
4/ What is 30+1806+40, hmm? Nobi 1876, giving time the Israelites arrived at Egypt
(30 being time while still free and 40 being time for the brother and everyone to die after Joseph)

5/ What is (1806+40)-1446=? Equals 400 years slavery. Right there on point.
6/ What is (30+1806+40)-1446=? Equals 430 years total sojourn in Egypt.

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Hey Mutt, I appreciate the awareness you've brought me of this thread but now that I'm already aware of this topic/thread, I can follow it even without further mentions. The continuous mentions make my mentions pile up so much and I lose track of some.
Thanks.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 6:49am On May 02, 2020
Bodydialect57:
What about their, (lsrael) enslavement in Egypt for 430years which started as a sojourn?
The man no sabi English ojaare, you for tok toram in pidgin. See how he turned what you've asked him into something else. He is mister confused dot com

donnie:
Their enslavement did not start as a SOJOURN.
donnie, please get a grip of yourself nah. Sojorn, plainly means, temporary stay. The Israelites becamed enslaved whilst sorjourning in Egypt

donnie:
Dont mind that mad man
[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]
You no well o. O gbadun, lol

donnie:
Enslavement and sourjourn are not the same thing.
[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
Who said, they were?
Who ever said, enslavement and sorjourn are the same thing, huh?

donnie:
Their sorjourn began when Joseph revealed himself to his brothers. Enslavement began after Joeseph and his generation had died -Exodus 1:6-8
You're repeating exactly what and all I previously said, lol

MuttleyLaff:
Chief, chief, donnie, you go school nah, you're biblical literate and you sabi do sums.

4/ What is 30+1806+40, hmm? Nobi 1876, giving time the Israelites arrived at Egypt
(30 being time while still free and 40 being time for the brother and everyone to die after Joseph)

5/ What is (1806+40)-1446=? Equals 400 years slavery. Right there on point.
6/ What is (30+1806+40)-1446=? Equals 430 years total sojourn in Egypt.
[img]https://s1/images/MuttWipesHandSmile.gif[/img]
QED Quite easily done.

donnie, mister olodo rapata upon twenty, fyi the Israelites arrived at Egypt in 1876 BC. Joseph died in 1806 BC. Add 40 years to 1806 BC gives you 1846 BC
(i.e. Remember, it took 40 years, after Joseph's death, for his brothers, and everyone else in that generation to die before their enslavement to begin in 1846 BC)

Now, donnie, when their enslavement, started in 1846 BC and ended in 1446 BC. The difference of this equals to 400 years of enslavement

The difference between 1876 BC and 1806 BC gives you 70 years. Subtract 40 years from the 70 years, gives you, the 30 years period that the Israelites lived as freeborns prior to becoming slaves. All QED.

Eggs don't teach fowl how to have sex, neither teach fowl how to suck eggs.

donnie:
The mad man even said between Joeseph's death and the Exodus is 360 abi 400years. shocked
WHERE DID I SAY 360! angry angry angry

"Ara adugbo", my neigbours, please help from this false accuser ooo. Hin wan put marijuana pour inside my pocket ooo.

It's getting easier for me to blame your confusion and ignorance on your pitiful miseducation, false and overstated intelligence

donnie:
Let him show how he came about that from the scriptures. Not adding and subtracting fictitious numbers like a drunkard. Let him show me 400 years of affliction between the death of Joseph and Exodus in the bible.
Eg. Moses was 80 years at the Exodus (Exodus 7:7), so let him show me the remaining 320 years between Joseph's death and Moses' birth.
donnie? donnie? donnie? donnie how many times did I call you. OK, please donnie calm down and fyi, I am not Ephesians 5:18a drunk on wine but I am instead, Ephesians 5:18b filled with the Spirit. Praise YAH. Alleluia

donnie, Moshe was born in 1526 BC. Now subtract the Exodus 7:7 stated Moshe's 80 years age from 1526 BC, this gives you 1446 BC
(i.e. 1446 BC being the year the slavery ended)

The 320 years that you are looking for donnie, are the years just before Moshe's birth. Add the 320 years to 1526 BC gives you 1846 BC, that's the year the Israelites slavery in Egypt started (i.e. 1526 BC is Moshe's birth year, lol. At 1446 BC, he was 80 years old)

Subtract 40 years from 1446 BC gives you 1406 BC, the year of Moshe's death.

Now donnie, go gently and click on the below link, lol. It has the timeline displaying a list of events in chronological order. Of course it includes dates of Joseph's death in 1806 BC, the birth and adoption of Moses in 1526 BC, end of slavery in 1446 BC etcetera, lol
https://biblehub.com/timeline/

donnie:
He is not well at all. Is he not looking for the 400 years of slavery or affliction as prophesied in Genesis 15:13 again?
You're either thicker than a two inch carpenter plank wood or you're deliberately pretending to be obtuse. I am not sure which is or maybe its both. You cant keep up with the facts and figures, the addition and subtraction etcetera. Your apparent cluelessness is betraying you, grin grin grin

Fyi, I repeat, the words, slavery and affliction, were both used in Genesis 15:13. As a matter of fact, the Hebrew word used for slavery is "abad" and the other Hebrew word used for affliction is "anah" so they were subjugated just as Genesis 15:13 perfectly prophesied it. They were enslaved or "abad" and afflicted or "anah"

Their subjugation, started in 1846 BC and ended in 1446 BC, where the difference equals to 400 years of enslavement

donnie:
Instead of confessing his lies, he is turning around like snake wey trap don catch. Today him agbada don hang for barbwire.
donnie, this is not mathematics I've done here, this arithmetic, unfortunately your arithmetic is wack. This is why you cant successfully do the sums and differences. Simple kindergarten addition and subtraction, shishi you no sabi am. Your eyes go soon clear, in Yahushua's Name. Amen.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 6:56am On May 02, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


Their subjugation, started in 1846 BC and ended in 1446 BC, where the difference equals to 400 years of enslavement

donnie, this is not mathematics I've done here, this arithmetic, unfortunately your arithmetic is wack. This is why you cant successfully do the sums and differences. Simple kindergarten addition and subtraction, shishi you no sabi am. Your eyes go soon clear, in Yahushua's Name. Amen.[/sub]


Where did you find all those dates you're adding and subtracting? You're a fraud but somehow you feel no one will notice.

Simple question you're dodging. Show me the lives and events that reveal 400 years between Joseph's death and Moses' Exodus.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 7:00am On May 02, 2020
donnie:
Where did you find all those dates you're adding and subtracting? You're a fraud.

Simple question you're dodging. Show me the lives and events that reveal 400 years between Joseph's death and Moses' birth.
The same way you found all those maps with dates on them you've been pasting upandan the place you no gree make pesin hear word.

It is the same place that states that Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, leaving no stone standing. This of course, I know you dont dispute, but now, seeing the truth in plain sight, has become a bitter pill for you to swallow grin grin grin
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 7:05am On May 02, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
The same way you found all those maps with dates on them you've been pasting upandan the place you no gree make pesin hear word.

It is the same place that states that Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, leaving no stone standing. This of course, I know you dont dispute, but now, seeing the truth in plain sight, has become a bitter pill for you to swallow grin grin grin

My intention really isn't to get you to own up to your lies or mistakes. Your type never will. At least you have been exposed.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 7:08am On May 02, 2020
donnie:
My intention really isn't to get you to own up to your lies or miatakes.
Your type never will. At least you have been exposed.
[img]https://s6/images/timelineslavery.jpg[/img]
Rough guide with +/- slight offmarks

Your intention should be to stop acting dense because I havent hidden anything. I have laid everything wide open and face up.

I have shown the additions, subtractions and calculations. Its not my problem that you bunked off arithmetic classes in school. Now its come back to bite you in the arse and now you wished you hadn't.

Listen go get junior, master lil' donnie, king tomorrow, to come help daddy donnie with understanding all this and particularly with the sums and difference calculations.

Everything has gone over your head, swoosh, like as if a high flying Naija Airforce jet plane fighter. Smh.

You seem to have missed this, as you keep asking me where did I find the dates. Smh. Anyway, so I'll repeat it here again for you. Now donnie, go gently and click on the below link, lol. OK?

The biblehub link below, has all the dates timeline displaying the list of bible events in chronological order. Of course donnie, it includes dates of Joseph's death in 1806 BC, the birth and adoption of Moses in 1526 BC, end of slavery in 1446 BC etcetera, lol
Bible Timeline: Complete Biblical Timeline
https://biblehub.com/timeline/

Everything deh deh deh, lol
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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 3:19pm On May 02, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

Your intention should be to stop acting dense because I havent hidden anything. I have laid everything wide open and face up.

I have shown the additions, subtractions and calculations. Its not my problem that you bunked off arithmetic classes in school. Now its come back to bite you in the arse and now you wished you hadn't.

Listen go get junior, master lil' donnie, king tomorrow, to come help daddy donnie with understanding all this and particularly with the sums and difference calculations.

Everything has gone over your head, swoosh, like as if a high flying Naija Airforce jet plane fighter. Smh.

You seem to have missed this, as you keep asking me where did I find the dates. Smh. Anyway, so I'll repeat it here again for you. Now donnie, go gently and click on the below link, lol. OK?

The biblehub link below, has all the dates timeline displaying the list of bible events in chronological order. Of course donnie, it includes dates of Joseph's death in 1806 BC, the birth and adoption of Moses in 1526 BC, end of slavery in 1446 BC etcetera, lol
Bible Timeline: Complete Biblical Timeline
https://biblehub.com/timeline/

Everything deh deh deh, lol



According to your criminally inspired chart...

1872- children of Israel in Egypt began
1842- 400 years affliction began
1801- Joseph 110 years old, which is the age he died (Genesis 50)
1442- The exodus

You are saying...
-30 years after their arrival in Egypt, affliction begins in 1842.
-Affliction begins 41 years before Joseph dies at the age of 110 in year 1801.
-Then 1442 is the Exodus.

Those who designed the chart simply counted backward from the generally accepted 1442 date for the Exodus but failed woefully to make the line of events fit into the 400-year prophecy.

Genesis 15:13
[13]And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

According to your chart, 400 years of affliction began while Joseph was still alive. But according to the scripture, Joseph and all in his generation had died and the children of Israel were fruitful, increased abundantly, multiplied, and waxed exceedingly mighty, ever before affliction began.

Exodus 1:6-11
[6]And Joseph died, and all his brethren, and all that generation.
[7]And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.
[8]Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.
[9]And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:
[10]Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.
[11]Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.


This false chart is simply a fabrication of the criminally minded Ashkenazi Jews or Christian zionists who are still fighting to deny the fact that the prophecy of Genesis 15:13 is actually referring to the black negros of the tribe of Judah, scattered around the world and sent to the United States of America (Mystery Babylon) from the year 1619.

The trigger for their judgment is the awakening the true Israelites. When Israel awakes and returns to the commandments of YAH, judgement falls. This is what they try to avert. But they have failed and the judgment has been set. #AwakeOIsrael

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 4:53pm On May 02, 2020
donnie:
According to your criminally inspired chart...
1872- children of Israel in Egypt began
1842- 400 years affliction began
1801- Joseph 110 years old, which is the age he died (Genesis 50)
1442- The exodus

You are saying...
-30 years after their arrival in Egypt, affliction begins in 1842.
-Affliction begins 41 years before Joseph dies at the age of 110 in year 1801.
-Then 1442 is the Exodus.

Those who designed the chart simply counted backward from the generally accepted 1442 date for the Exodus but failed woefully to make the line of events fit into the 400-year prophecy.

Genesis 15:13
[13]And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs,
and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;


According to your chart, 400 years of affliction began while Joseph was still alive. But according to the scripture, Joseph and all in his generation had died and the children of Israel were fruitful, increased abundantly, multiplied, and waxed exceedingly mighty, ever before affliction began.

Exodus 1:6-11
[6]And Joseph died, and all his brethren, and all that generation.
[7]And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.
[8]Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.
[9]And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:
[10]Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.
[11]Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens.
And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.


This false chart is simply a fabrication of the criminally minded Ashkenazi Jews or Christian zionists who are still fighting to deny the fact that the prophecy of Genesis 15:13 is actually referring to the black negros of the tribe of Judah, scattered around the world and sent to the United States of America (Mystery Babylon) from the year 1619.

The trigger for their judgment is the awakening the true Israelites. When Israel awakes and returns to the commandments of YAH, judgement falls. This is what they try to avert. But they have failed and the judgment has been set.
[img]https://s6/images/donnieRubbishe9c4a0491de6cfc7.gif[/img]

Genesis 15:13
And he said unto Abram,
Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs,
and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;


So, the Bible hub timeline link too (i.e. Bible Timeline: Complete Biblical Timeline) is designed by your fellow impostors, your brothers in crime, the Ashkenazi Jews too abi? You are not better than the Ashkenazi Jews stealing land from the Palestinian people, when you too, are busy trying hard at stealing someone else a, group of people's identity.

You have a big problem with understanding Genesis 15:13, which is why in that your rubbish chart, you're including the travel through the wilderness to the Promised Land Canaan, as part of the whole prophesied 400 years spent in Egypt. Who were the Israelites enslaved to, in the wilderness to Canaan, that you have to include their travel through the wilderness in your enslavement years calculation. Smh
The Israelites only spent 40 years travelling from Egypt to Canaan, so donnie what is that rubbish 215 years doing in that your stupid chart, hmm?

Where are you from? What part of the world exactly on earth are you from? Show me a map where originally from on earth you've at all all been before, lol. Listen I'll expose your yansh, if you dont crawl back to the hole and gutter you came out from angry angry angry

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 6:10pm On May 02, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

You have a big problem with understanding Genesis 15:13, which is why in that your rubbish chart, you're including the travel through the wilderness to the Promised Land Canaan, as part of the whole prophesied 400 years spent in Egypt.

Seriously? Grasping at straws now? Of course, I am not trying to prove the 400 years prophecy with that chart, when I already know which slavery it is referring to. The folks who made that yellow chart believe the lies of Ashkenazi and Zionists, so they, like you, are trying hard to find 400 years affliction in physical Egypt which is impossible. I used the chart just to show you that Israel couldn't have been enslaved or afflicted in Egypt for more than 80-85 years.

I told you I don't expect you to confess your lies or mistakes, you are not that type.
All I am saying is Gen 15:13 is not referring to physical Egypt, but to spiritual Egypt/ Babylon (United States). That's all.
Egypt (Heb: Mizraim) also means bondage.

Deuteronomy 28:68
And YAHUAH shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by Nobody: 10:01pm On May 02, 2020
Perhaps you should read again Stephen's speech in Acts 7 for a clearer understanding.

3 And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which, I shall show thee.
4 Then came he out of the land of the Chaldeans, and dwelt in Haran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein, ye now dwell.
5 And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on:, yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.
6 And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage,, and entreat them evil four hundred years.
7 And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place. Acts 7:3-7.

donnie:


Their enslavement did not start as a SORJOURN. Dont mind that mad man. Enslavement and sourjourn are not the same thing.

Their sorjourn began when Joseph revealed himself to his brothers. Enslavement began after Joeseph and his generation had died -Exodus 1:6-8

The mad man even said between Joeseph's death and the Exodus is 360 abi 400years. shocked



Let him show how he came about that from the scriptures. Not adding and subtracting fictitious numbers like a drunkard. Let him show me 400 years of affliction between the death of Joseph and Exodus in the bible.
Eg. Moses was 80 years at the Exodus (Exodus 7:7), so let him show me the remaining 320 years between Joseph's death and Moses' birth.

He is not well at all. Is
he not looking for the 400 years of slavery or affliction as prophesied in Genesis 15:13 again?

Instead of confessing his lies, he is turning around like snake wey trap don catch. Today him agbada don hang for barbwire.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 1:24pm On May 03, 2020
Bodydialect57:
3 And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which, I shall show thee.
4 Then came he out of the land of the Chaldeans, and dwelt in Haran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein, ye now dwell.
5 And He gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on:, yet He promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.
6 And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years.
7 And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God:
and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place.
- Acts 7:3-7.

Perhaps you should read again Stephen's speech in Acts 7 for a clearer understanding.
[img]https://s5/images/tenorb2f44ea9662323f1.gif[/img]
Gbam. Gbamer. Gbamest.

donnie:
Seriously? Grasping at straws now? Of course, I am not trying to prove the 400 years prophecy with that chart, when I already know which slavery it is referring to. The folks who made that yellow chart believe the lies of Ashkenazi and Zionists, so they, like you, are trying hard to find 400 years affliction in physical Egypt which is impossible. I used the chart just to show you that Israel couldn't have been enslaved or afflicted in Egypt for more than 80-85 years.
You are saying the Scripture is lying, hmm? That the utterances of YAH are lies, right?. That When YAH said 400 years, it actually means 80-85 years right, huh?

donnie:
I told you I don't expect you to confess your lies or mistakes, you are not that type.
All I am saying is Gen 15:13 is not referring to physical Egypt,
[s]but to spiritual Egypt/ Babylon (United States). That's all.[/s]
Egypt (Heb: Mizraim) also means bondage.
[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
Gen 15:13 is crystal clear nah.

"The Lord will bring a nation from far away, from the end of the earth,
to swoop down on you like an eagle,
a nation whose language you do not understand
"
- Deuteronomy 28:49

Where did you learn that Gen 15:13 is not referring to physical Egypt, but to spiritual Egypt/Babylon (United States), hmm?
So what if Egypt (Heb: Mizraim) also means bondage. Pftt. It doesnt take anything away from the fact that the Israelites were enslaved in Egypt for 400 years

You're busy, doing as usual, your wuruwuru to the answer with trying to rope in the United States disgusing it as Babylon, lol, after camouflaging as something spiritual, lol. Kolewerk my friend, lol. Cant and wont work here donnie. Note that, an aquila (Latin for ''eagle'') was a powerful symbol used in ancient Rome and especially as the standard of a Roman legion. The silver eagle was the ensign of the Roman Legion and the symbol of its power. A legionary known as an aquilifer, the "eagle-bearer", carries this standard, he would carry the aquila (eagle) into battle. If the eagle was captured the legion would disband. The bald eagle was chosen as the emblem of the United States of America, in June 20, 1782, meanwhile the transatlantic slave trade began during the 15th century and to the Americas from the 16th to the 19th century, so please donnie, dont with your dishonest manoeuvring, unclothe Peter (i.e. Egypt) to clothe Paul (i.e. United States), lol.

donnie:
Deuteronomy 68
And YAHUAH shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee,
Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
"The LORD will return you to Egypt in ships by a route that I said you should never see again.
There you will sell yourselves to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”
"
- Deuteronomy 28:68

This verse is Deuteronomy 28:68 and not as you put it, Deuteronomy 68. Deuteronomy doesnt reach chapter 68. It ends at Deuteronomy chapter 34, lol. There isn't anything such as Deuteronomy 68 donnie.

Anyway, the whole Deuteronomy almost is about the contract details agreed between God and the Israelites. The curses of Deuteronomy 28:68 is no exception. It was agreed upon after the Israelites 400 bitter enslavement at Egypt. It was after the Egypt aftermath, and in there what Moshe talked about, did because of their disobedience, eventually did exactly like that happen to the Israelites. In 70-72 AD, Emperor Vespasian and his succesor Titus, shipped the Israelites, as slaves, to Rome, to get build the Roman Colosseum etcetera, as a gift to the Roman people. They never, to date, saw Jerusalem again. Josephus, the historian, even recorded this and confirmed that this was exactly what was done with many of the Jews by Titus especially.

After the Fall of the Second Temple (70 CE)
Josephus reports:
#... Of the rest, those who were over seventeen he put in chains and sent to hard labor in Egypt while greet numbers were presented by Titus to the provinces to perish in the theaters by sword or by wild beasts; those under seventeen were sold.# Josephus,
- "The Jewish Wars"; Book vi 9:2.

Munter -- Roman Historian
# Now that Betar had been captured, everything came under Human control, while Palestine [Judah] was reduced to a desolate mound. Captives were sold into slavery in numbers too great to count. First they were brought to the grand annual market at the Terebinth-Eloh tree in Hebron, or in the words of Hyranumous, to the Tent-Ohel of Abraham near Hebron. Each slave sold for the price of a horse. Those captives who were not sold there were brought to the market place in Azza [Gaza] which, because of the great multitudes of slaves who were sold there, was called Hadrian's market place. And those who were still not sold there were herded into ships and were taken to Egypt. Many died in transit, whether by starvation or by shipwreck, while many also were killed by cruel masters.
- Munter, Primordia Eccl. Africanae, pp. 85f.,113.

# The toll of the Bar Kochba uprising was devastating both on the population and on the places of habitation.
The numbers of dead were awesome, while multitudes of Jews were taken captive to fill the slave markets near and far.
The slave market of the Terebinth of Hebron was particuIarly famous as a center where Jewish slaves, sent into captivity by Hadrian (i.e. Hadrian was Roman emperor) were sold.
So many Jewish slaves were available that, recording to one report, a Jew was sold for as little as the price of a portion of horse feed. #
- History of Am Yisrael in Ancient Days (Hebrew, Devir), 1971, p.321.

donnie, the above first quote was by an authentic Jew and the second one was by a Roman citizen, none by any Ashkenazi Jew impostor brothers of yours.

So, donnie, where, is this Acts 7:7's "... in this place"?
What's the location donnie, for in the end they will come out and worship Me here, in this place? What is "... in this place"? Where donnie, is "... in this place" lol?

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 8:18am On May 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


"The LORD will return you to Egypt in ships by a route that I said you should never see again.
There you will sell yourselves to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”
"
- Deuteronomy 28:68

You should be ashamed of yourself. You will search everywhere to find one useless translation just to counter Truth. You don't know what you are doing. Nothing seems to fit the Ashkenazi so they will twist and turn until they find something.

MuttleyLaff:
This verse is Deuteronomy 28:68 and not as you put it, Deuteronomy 68. Deuteronomy doesnt reach chapter 68. It ends at Deuteronomy chapter 34, lol. There isn't anything such as Deuteronomy 68 donnie.

Are you desperate to score points that you can't see it's a typo?

MuttleyLaff:
In 70-72 AD, Emperor Vespasian and his succesor Titus, shipped the Israelites, as slaves, to Rome, to get build the Roman Colosseum etcetera, as a gift to the Roman people. They never, to date, saw Jerusalem again. Josephus, the historian, even recorded this and confirmed that this was exactly what was done with many of the Jews by Titus especially.

LIAR, scripture says they shall be SOLD to their enemies.
Deuteronomy 28:68
[68]And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

Show me historical evidence that....
1. Your whities were SOLD as slaves.
2. They had yokes of iron on their necks (Deut 28:48).

Deuteronomy 28:48
Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

The Israelites in America are living proof of the prophecy. The amount of Jews you researched that were taken to Rome does not qualify to fulfill a major event of change for the nation of Israel like the slavery to America.

And by the way, the word "buy" in "no man shall buy you" (Deut 28:68) is actually "redeem" from the Hebrew word "qanah" [H7069].

Redeem - save (someone) from sin, error, or evil; to buy back.

Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 12:56pm On May 05, 2020
Deuteronomy 28:64
[64]And YAHUAH shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

Were your whities scattered to the ends of the earth? Our own people were scattered to the ends of the Earth and they served and still serve other gods, even wood and stone.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by erim123(m): 1:05pm On May 05, 2020
If skin colour has nothing to do with salvation why did it matter to those that projects it?. And beside who were the first people to paint the picture of Jesus and what colour was it and was it important for the Whiteman not to maintain the original complexion depicted then?
PervertProphet
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One of the recent lies by Satan engineered especially amongst Black People by Heretical groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites, Black Nation of Islam, etcetera is the endless debate over the Skin colour of Jesus Christ.

Many Ignorant individuals have fallen for this old Satanic lie rebranded again in our age and time.

I would treat this later in details but this is my impromptu response to a moniker named Donnie and I decided to share it on my Wall pending when I will treat this topic fully.

@Donnie

Who told you Jesus first of all was a White Caucasian?
Of What importance/relevance has the colour of Jesus's Skin got to do with the importance of the Salvation plan He brought of which His life that was Sinless attested to that fact.

The ever first drawings of Jesus Christ were 200 years (2 Centuries) after Jesus has ascended back to Heaven. The Earliest Christians starting from His Disciples were never interested in what colour His Skin was. The drawings by the Semitic people of Jesus Christ two hundred years after his ascension are more brownish and quite different from the drawings of the White Caucasian Christians who started drawing their own white racial representation of Jesus 400 years after the Semitic People.

The Ethiopian Christians drawing of Jesus 300 years before Muhammad and Islam also contrast differently to the drawings of Jesus by either the Semitic Christians or the White Caucasian Christians in Rome. Everyone drew Jesus according to his own racial feature. The Semitic Christians that is the Jews, Syrians, and others like the Ethiopian, Libyans Christians, etcetera of the Old World who were first Christians before Islam came through with the Sword and had many of their descendants as Muslims today.

These African Christians drew their racial features into the representation of Jesus and theirs was different from the White Caucasian Christians of Byzantine and Rome also different to the oldest ones by the Semitic people as found in Syria. The Semitic people are usually Brown. Everyone drew Jesus Christ according to how their racial skin looked and this is because No one knows how exactly Jesus Christ looked like because the Disciples who were first with him and others like the Africans: Ethiopians, Libyans, etcetera who lived in the very period of Jesus Christ ascension to Heaven were never interested in what he looked like. That was not the most important thing to them. It was the Salvation He brought them that they were concerned about. 100 years after Jesus Christ ascended back to Heaven. No one even drew how he looked like. Infact, Jesus was merely represented by symbols like Anchor, etcetera and not by full pictorial representation of Him.

The first ever drawing of Jesus Christ was in 235AD found in Syria. That is 235 years after the ascension of Jesus Christ.

Nothing of this Racial based Religious agitation and ideologies will bring Peace to the World.
1) The Jews with Judaism
2) The Arabs with majorly Sunni Islam and the need for everyother Muslims from other Nations to speak and read the qur'an in Arabic, their language.
3) The White Caucasians with their Seperatism and other racist groups, etcetera
4) The Black Hebrew Israelites and Black Nation of Islam with their teaching that all White People are Devils and that only Black Man will be saved and their teaching that the domination of white man ended in 1914.
5) The Jehovah Witness with their 144,000 instead of the Israelites the Bible talked about. It is suddenly recalculated as 144,000 Jehovah Witnesses in America that partake in the Memorial meal of the Lord and their failed and New light understanding on 1914. When formerly, it was that Christ returned invisibly. Even Beth-Sarim was set up by Rutherford to welcome them, etcetera and their numerous failed prophecies.
6) The Biafra, Oduduwa, Arewa, Niger Delta agitations
7) The Indian Hindu/Sikh Vs the Pakistani Islam opposition, etcetera.


All these aggression and agitations will all fail even if Africans, China, US, Saudi Arabia, Islam, Biafra, etcetera become World Power. It means nothing as there would never be Peace on Earth. Only till the Kingdom of God comes and Jesus Christ becomes the Ruler. There is no racial dichotomy or gender in Heaven or Marriage. The Incorruptible Body we would have won't have a need for all that Nonsense that we do need here on Earth.

It is only our Corruptible Body here that discriminates against our different racial or tribal features. By the way, na today you know say Chinese dey discriminate against Blacks but not all Chinese because there are some Spirit filled Chinese Christians who are also facing persecution too just like the Blacks from the Chinese Totalitarian/Dictatorial government but who despite all that have continued to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ that is for all men to draw into one Big family. Individuals of different races and bloodlines into one with Jesus Christ.

Satan is playing with your eternal destiny arguing about useless things like the skin of Jesus Christ till you turn up in Hell then your foolishness will then become evident.


This is the first drawing of Jesus Christ found in Syria 235 years after the death, ressurection, and ascension of Jesus Christ. Notice how different it is to the ones of Jesus Christ drawn by White Caucasian Christians who are only drawing a Jesus Christ that resembles their racial features. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about Jesus Christ having a White feature. Now, if you as a West African draw Jesus Christ as having black features. That's your own problem but these debate as to how Jesus Christ looks is one of the Stupidest debate I have ever seen.


Galatians 3:1 KJV — O foolish Galatians Donnie and all other Cult groups, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?


This picture below is titled: "The Healing of the Paralytic"

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 1:23pm On May 05, 2020
Deuteronomy 28
"32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.
33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:"


Is this not our people??

Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 1:25pm On May 05, 2020
erim123:
If skin colour has nothing to do with salvation why did it matter to those that projects it?. And beside who were the first people to paint the picture of Jesus and what colour was it and was it important for the Whiteman not to maintain the original complexion depicted then?

Pertinent questions for the truthful and sincere.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 4:54pm On May 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

I DARE YOU TO STAND UP TO ME ON EACH COUNT, I HAVE PUT THAT THERE IS NO ISRAELITE ON EARTH TODAY CAPABLE OF TRACING HIS/HER ISRAELITE ANCESTRY. donnie, I repeat, there is no Israelite alive on earth today, capable of tracing his/her ancestry to Abram/Abraham or Jacob/Israel.

I havent said anything heavy that there is no ISRAELITE on earth today. It is the word of YAH. It is prophecy fulfilled. What the Assyrians didnt finish off, the Romans in 70 AD put the last nail in the coffin of the Israelites.

It's always better to ALLOW the ignorant to scream all they think they know before you respond. I will take them one at a time cool

1. EPHRAIM AND JUDAH IN YORUBA LAND
The Bnai Ephraim (Children of Ephraim). Most of them concentrated around various communities in Ondo state since the 1930s, about 2000 people in all. According to their traditions, they came to Nigeria by way of Morocco sometime in the 16th century. Their language is a mixture of Moroccan Arabic with Yoruba, but with bits of Aramaic, such as ima for “mother.” Other Yorubas may call them Emo Yo Quaim – the “Strange People” as like in most ethnic groups, the practice of Judaism is among a very small minority. The Bnai Ephraim have kept portions of the Torah in their sanctuaries which distinguish them from their Igbo counterparts who practice Judaism without much influence from the Torah.

They fit the Biblical description and still maintain the Hebraic customs of the ten tribes. From their circumcision, marriage, childbirth, twinning, naming, and traditional religious customs to the lisping among the Ibadan subgroup. The character of this tribe is in agreement with ancient maps that identify them as comprising primarily the Hebrew tribe of Ephraim.

Those of YAHUNDE (Judah) were placed in the region of West Africa now known as Benin Republic by the Portuguese during the Spanish Inquisition which began in the 1400s where Jews were expelled for Spain and Portugal.

There certainly are various other tribes like Gad among the Yoruba people. But the above is in response to the challenge of MuttleyLaff that no Israelite on earth can trace themselves to a particular tribe of Israel. As wicked as the works of Rome and Assyria which you celebrate were, yet, YAHUAH kept his people and His word will never fail. ISRAEL SHALL RETURN.

The Bnai Ephraim among the Yoruba people. http://www.amijewish.info/w/jews-in-africa/
The lost ancient Hebrew Israelites http://machpelahcave.website/yoruba-hebrew-israelites/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/288434360_Origin_of_the_Yoruba_and_The_Lost_Tribes_of_Israel

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 7:03pm On May 05, 2020
donnie:
It's always better to ALLOW the ignorant to scream all they think they know before you respond.
I will take them one at a time cool
[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]
We both are playing the waiting game, nah, lol.

Yeah, its a situation in which you delay making responses, so that you can watch how a situation develops and see what it are best ways for you to effectively respond, lol. Yes, it is a tactic in which one refrains from action for a time being in order to act more effectively at a later and more appropiate time, lol. If you could just see what I've cooked up for you unfinished here, you'll be demoralised and your over-inflated ego crushed that will make you go find a corner to go weep and cry in. Smh.

donnie:
1. YORUBAS ARE CHILDREN OF EPHRAIM AND JUDAH
The Bnai Ephraim (Children of Ephraim). Most of them concentrated around various communities in Ondo state since the 1930s, about 2000 people in all. According to their traditions, they came to Nigeria by way of Morocco sometime in the 16th century. Their language is a mixture of Moroccan Arabic with Yoruba, but with bits of Aramaic, such as ima for “mother.” Other Yorubas may call them Emo Yo Quaim – the “Strange People” as like in most ethnic groups, the practice of Judaism is among a very small minority. The Bnai Ephraim have kept portions of the Torah in their sanctuaries which distinguish them from their Igbo counterparts who practice Judaism without much influence from the Torah.[3]

They fit the Biblical description and still maintain the Hebraic customs of the ten tribes. From their circumcision, marriage, childbirth, twinning, naming, and traditional religious customs to the lisping among the Ibadan subgroup. The character of this tribe is in agreement with ancient maps that identify them as comprising primarily the Hebrew tribe of Ephraim.
donnie, continue from wikipedia (i.e. History_of_the_Jews_in_Nigeria), be copy and paste here, OK. You think you're being smart doing that, hmm? Fyi donnie, wikipedia is no good to anyone, if you are not able to separate the wheat from chaff, lmao

Look at you. Smh. I feel so sorry for you. What has the tribe of Ephraim, an arch antagonist, the leader of the Northern 10 lost tribes of Israel have to do with the Southern Kingdom of Judah, comprising of the tribe of Benjamin and the tribe of Judah.

If I should drop two or three bombshells on you, here right now about the Yorubas and Ndigbo, you'll fall yakata off from the high horse you're are comfortably sitting on. It is because of your ignorance, that you are taking refugee with Cameroon, lmao. Have you dont a DNA test that ascertained that you are from there, lmao, hmm? Why dont you say you are from the Kaifeng Jews? Oh, its too far away abi, lmao? You're boko, lmao.

donnie:
Those of YAHUNDE (Judah) were placed in the region of West Africa now known as Benin Republic by the Portuguese during the Spanish Inquisition which began in the 1400s where Jews were expelled for Spain and Portugal.
You see your life, lmao. Do you see what conjecture has gotten you, lmao, smh.

Have you at all, heard of the Latin text Dum Diversas (i.e. in English, it means ''until different'') It is a papal bull issued on 18 June 1452 by Pope Nicholas V. It authorized Afonso V of Portugal to conquer Saracens and pagans and consign them to "perpetual servitude" lmao. In 1455 Romanus Pontifex(The Roman Pontiff) gave Portugal the right to seize slaves and land in West Africa. In 1456, another Pope Calixtus III, repeated by the earlier papal bull.

Then in 1493, Pope Alexander VI issued another Papal Bull "Inter Caetera" (i.e. its latin and means ''among other [works]'') with what it extends the spheres of influence to certain nation states by authorizing Spain and Portugal to colonize the Americas and its Native peoples as subjects. The decree gave Spain and Portugal, the rights to colonize, convert, and enslave forever, which is a right, as we will see, still stands today.

The Doctrine of Discovery established a spiritual, political, and legal justification for colonization and seizure of land not inhabited by Christians. It of course, also justified the enslavement of Africans, nah.

The English King Henry VII, got in on the act in 1496 and so granted a commission to the Cabots, to go discover countries then unknown to Christian people, and take possession of them in the name of the King of England, lmao.

Listen donnie, when distinction were to be made about skin color of someone like you and I have, lmao, the Bible explicitly makes no mistake of not mentioning it, just like that and how it is, like for example, in Acts 13:1, where it states: "The church at Antioch had several prophets and teachers. They were Barnabas, Simeon, also called Niger (i.e. called the Black), Lucius from Cyrene, Manaen, who was Herod's close friend, and Saul."

donnie, I reiterate man, little learning is a dangerous thinhg, for it puffs one up, and makes one feels that one knows it all and have the world in one's grasp when that just isnt the case. You're far off mark. You are missing so many dots, so arent able to join them to see correctly see the right picture, lmao. Here are a few easy questions for you
1/ Why in the Bible, is Simeon, explicitly called black, donnie, if everyone at that time were still black, lmao?
2/ Do you at all understand at all really understand Genesis 10:2-5 and why Moses 4000 years before even Abram/Abraham and Hebrews/Jews ever existing, is he already mentioning Gentiles, lmao, in Genesis 10:5 "From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations"

PS: I'll asap finish up the response post to your other post you posted about chains, shackles, parallel prophecy etcetera, lmao

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 7:20pm On May 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

The English King Henry VII, got in on the act in 1496 and so granted a commission to the Cabots, to go discover countries then unknown to Christian people, and take possession of them in the name of the King of England, lmao.

Listen donnie, when distinction were to be made about skin color of someone like you and I have, lmao, the Bible explicitly makes no mistake of not mentioning it, just like that and how it is, like for example, in Acts 13:1, where it states: "The church at Antioch had several prophets and teachers. They were Barnabas, Simeon, also called Niger (i.e. called the Black), Lucius from Cyrene, Manaen, who was Herod's close friend, and Saul."

donnie, I reiterate man, little learning is a dangerous thinhg, for it puffs one up, and makes one feels that one knows it all and have the world in one's grasp when that just isnt the case. You're far off mark. You are missing so many dots, so arent able to join them to see correctly see the right picture, lmao. Here are a few easy questions for you
1/ Why in the Bible, is Simeon, explicitly called black, donnie, if everyone at that time were still black, lmao?
2/ Do you at all understand at all really understand Genesis 10:2-5 and why Moses 4000 years before even Abram/Abraham and Hebrews/Jews ever existing, is he already mentioning Gentiles, lmao, in Genesis 10:5 "From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations"

And you think that's a new revelation? Niger was a nickname na, don't we call people blacky today even though we are all dark-skinned?
This whole area including soudan was called Negroland at a time in history.
We have the River Niger? Even Nigeria is Niger-area so?

The fact that those maps existed indicates that the so-called lost Hebrew tribes had been found long before the transatlantic slave trade began, and the Yorubas were living right at the center of their territory. These maps were probably used by slave traders to source for slaves to be shipped to Europe and the New World between the 15th and 19th centuries. So sit tight, more to come.
King Henry VII? I haven't even started, you're already beating around the bush. grin

Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 7:26pm On May 05, 2020
donnie:
Niger was a nickname na, don't we call people blacky today even though we are all dark-skinned?
Smh, you are so boko. Just concentrate on answering the earlier questions in my last post, put at you and make sure you don't actually skip the last two at the very bottom, lmao.

Here are another set of two questions for you
1/ The Ethiopian Eunuch is he the same skin tone as Stephen, lmao, hmm?
2/ What of queen Candace?

donnie:
King Henry VII? I haven't even started, you're already beating around the bush. grin
Oh oh, you think I am talking of or interested in King James abi, lmao. Of course you're ignorant nah, you wont know about King Henry VII and the hundreds of African slaves in Tudor, lmao

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 7:44pm On May 05, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Smh, you are so boko.

Just concentrate on answering the earlier questions in my last post, put at you and make sure you don't actually skip the last two at the very bottom, lmao.

Here are another set of two questions for you
1/ The Ethiopian eunuch is he the same skin tone as Stephen, lmao, hmm?
2/ What of queen Candace?

Tring to shift the goal post again?
I don't owe you any answers. I'm not even answering these your many questions because of you.
Take any answer I give you here as jara. I didn't come to nairaland to convince myself of the truth; Im already fully persuaded.
I came to announce the judgments of YAH.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 7:53pm On May 05, 2020
donnie:
Tring to shift the goal post again?
I don't owe you any answers. I'm not even answering these your many questions because of you.
Take any answer I give you here as jara. I didn't come to nairaland to convince myself of the truth; Im already full persuaded.
No, I dont need to try shifting goal posts. I have never had the need or want to shift goal post. I brought that up so to show you that what your ex-church, your ex CE pastor has taught you, what you have picked from running from pillar to post is completely built on faulty foundations, lmao.

donnie, I am choking you with bring-you-back to reality questions, lmao, that is all. I am intimidating you with questions that reveal the holes in your deluded, beloved precious soap bubbles, lmao. What you going to do erhn, if I should ask you what's the meaning of the name, Ham, lmao, hmm? Or, what you gonna do, if I should ask you to explain the meaning of Psalms 105:23, lmao, huh? Run? You can run, but you arent going to run away from reality and the truth forever nah donnie, lmao. You just wait, let me hurriedly get to finish up the response to your other post you posted talking about chains, shackles, etcetera whatnots lmao. I will further show you up for what you are, and that is, you're a boko.

All these simple Bible 101 easy peasy lemon squeezy questions are too hot for you to handle, you have no choice other than just have to drop them. Smh. There is no questions of yours, you throw at me that I cant and wont correctly answer. Why? It is because unlike you, I know my onions. I have done my homework, my 2 Timothy 2:15 and Proverbs 4:7-9 very well, lmao

Now, if you have developed cold feet and fright at answering the question about Genesis 10:2-5, how I am going to get to asking you about Genesis 9:25 now, hmm, lmao. You don price market, wey money in your hands no reach buy, lmao. You no get land, you wan erect perimeter fence, lmao. Who does that. Oinnn, gerara ere.

donnie:
... I came to announce the judgments of YAH.
You're already going through the judgment of YAH, it all started right from the moment you ran from the wolf in sheep clothing into a welcoming and embracing arms of a devouring bear, lmao. You jumped from the fry pan into the fire place, lmao, and that's right into the middle of the judgment of YAH. You are in trouble donnie, your pride and covetousness have pushed you into big, big trouble. You false prophet (i.e. Ezekiel 22:28, Ezekiel 13:6 and Ezekiel 13:3) angry angry angry

It is only liars and wannabe prophet like you, who twists and misinterprets scripture, and you've had from practices, perfected the art of inserting your lies, delusions, falsehoods, misunderstandings, hatred, in much senseless and useless jargon(s). You have no shame, no ounce of humility in you, with pride, you sit gingerly perched on your tall high horse, you thought, you'll will have a plain sailing at making mischief, and that you would go unnoticed and unchallenged. Smh. Your goose is cooked. Bring them on, your half baked understanding of maps, of history, of etymologies, of the wikipedia pages you copy and paste here, bible exegesis, hermeneutics, theology etcetera and with them all, you try to make YAH look like a liar and as if He doesnt know what He's said.

donnie, have you ever heard of the saying, what goes around, goes around, goes around and comes all the way back around, huh, lmao? Have a look at Genesis 37:26-27, lmao, check it out, to go figure that saying out with it, lmao.

# FREE MUBARAK BALA NOW! angry angry angry
# Shout it from the rooftops
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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 4:30am On May 06, 2020
donnie:
You should be ashamed of yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOQ_0GzDMr4

You're a clown donnie, lol. You're no different to the Odumeje parody above, lmao. "Prophet" Odumeje, the ndaboski Pahose, the machine, the liquid metal, the Inda boski dahosa/indaboski daosa, the Inda boski kapache, the baloskicalabash.

donnie, do you why I compare you with Odumeje, hmm? It is because of how, you both, mix things up, making a hotchpotch, lol, a confused mixture, lol. Smh.

donnie:
You will search everywhere to find one useless translation just to counter Truth.
Do you think, it is only you whose behind after the truth ni? Do you think its only you who has all this while been searching everywhere for the truth ni? Do you think it is only you who has been searching to understand why the Aboriginal Australians/Indigenous Australians, Indigenous Americans/Native Americans etcetera have their lands taken from them and then on top get oppressed, hmm?

donnie, do you remember I told you that: "Go find another battle to pick and another cause fight jor" and you replied back with: "I didn't "find" this cause, YAHUAH by his mighty power seperated me and sent me to announce his judgements." Do you recall what I then said following your reply up with, hmm donnie? I said: "You arent the only one ekklesia-ed. YAH called and separated people like I too, but we arent going about it the toxic way and manner you are". You see donnie, the difference between you are I is that, I have done my 2 Timothy 2:15 and Proverbs 4:7-9. I am not into Matthew 23:15. I am a truth seeker and so with it, when found, I exhort and do Bob the builder with it. Unlike you, who is leading yourself and others to believe something that is half truths, not absolute truth and whats not true

"So be speaking and acting as a person
who is going to be judged by The Law of Liberty.
"
- James 2:12

I dont think you in the real sense of it understand what "The last shall be first, and the first last" means, lol. Even the royal law too se, I dont it see shown in you, in regards of the love that fulfills the whole law, lol. The commandment(s) was given to a stiffneck idolatrous people who have just being brought out of Egypt. Everything YAH did, was a training, the shabbat was a training, the commandment was a training for the eternal law from Yahshua Ha Mashiach

donnie:
You don't know what you are doing. Nothing seems to fit the Ashkenazi so they will twist and turn until they find something.
How do you mean nothing seems to fit the Ashkenazi?. The Ashkenazi Jews, your brothers in identity theft crime are fulfilling Bible prophecy. You don't seem to get it that I dont give a rat's arse to your land thieving brothers the Ashkenazi Jews and that's especially for them terrorising and oppressing the Palestine people over their land they forcibly took because they had the financial and political might.

Josephus wrote about A.D. 70:
"There are but two tribes in Asia and Europe subject to the Romans,
while the ten tribes are beyond Euphrates till now, and are an immense multitude.
"
- ANTIQUITIES XI,5,2

James, in his New Testament letter, about 60 AD, wrote:
"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting"
- James 1:1

In that James 1:1, James is writing not only to the ten tribes, who were an immense multitude beyond the River Euphrates as described by Josephus, but also to the great number of the two-tribed House of Judah (i.e. the Southern Kingdom, made up from tribe of Benjamin and the tribe of Judah) who never returned to Palestine, now taken over by the Boko Ashkenazi Jews terrorists and oppressors brothers of your donnie

You see donnie, your problem, really is just like your former mentor at CE is. I had a post I was writing but just left it unfinished and now sitting on my back burner, where I was explaining about COVID-19 and 5G, and how Pastor Chris, made a mistake of being in a haste of not crossing all the t's and dotting the i's before rushing out to make a stand on the plandemic etcetera. I am sharing next below a snippet excerpt taken from the unfinished/abandoned write-up

Pastor Chris, was too much in a haste, to come out with all. Nothing really bad in him stepping up to plate, but he should have thought about naysayers, like Pastors Ashimolowo, Sam Adeyemi & company, coming out after him, if he didnt tie up tightly, all loose ends of this whole matter, which he hasnt.

OK, I hear you saying how, lol. Well, Pastor Chris, with all due respects, hasnt really got a firm grip on the whole thing, and so should have shared what he knows and had so far amassed, but with a disclaimer, saying something to the effect, like, there is more to this, but I am not 100% there yet. This would have gotten him a get-out-of-jail free card and stave of the baying for his blood and head on the guillotine by the likes of Pastors Ashimolowo, Sam Adeyemi & company, even our own resident, my other brother from another mother Goshen360, lol, too

Now, lol, donnie, here is where Pastor Chris boo-booed, lol. He said/says, COVID-19 is not caused by a virus, lol. Well, when he says this, in an emphatic way and/or manner like that, I am sorry, he isnt absolutely correct or right about it that way.

You see, Pastor Chris needs to bring himself up to speed, as in meaning, be fully informed on a few more must-knows and up to date on a few other more need-to-knows, lol. Like for example donnie, lol, here are a few areas of interest, that Pastor Chris needs to up-level on, lol

1/ The first and #1, Pastor Chris needs to from proper wholesome definition, understand what a virus is.
2/ He needs to properly research how viruses manifest and/or what causes them to manifest, lol. How does our bodies create viruses, lol?
3/ He needs to appreciate that, the human body weight, is made up of anywhere from 42-75% water. Babies have the most, being born at about 75-78%. The average male body is approximately 60% water by weight. In fact its, 65% water for a young male while closer to 60% is for an older males and conversely 65% water for a young female while closer to 55% is for an older female which most of this will be fat-based, lol. Dont worry this info, will all make sense soon below and you'll defo appreciate its relevance, when I get to talk about our body in terms of our body cells (i.e. the basic units of life) and so of course, molecules, lol
4/ He needs to be aware of what is the fact behind why the virus is specifically called coronavirus aka COVID-19, lol? Why "corona", lol?
5/
6/

donnie:
Are you desperate to score points that you can't see it's a typo?
Do you really think, this is about scoring, hmm? You think, its about scoring points really, erhn? Or you think, this is all a game, huh? That, I am less busy and bored stiff, so I've come on to this thread to engage with you?. Of course, I know its a typo, so you've made a typo and you dont want me to talk about it, hmm. Just the same manner, you're mistaken in what you know and how you're going on about, which I know, you rather I not talk about it too, lol. Chalk it up to you caught being sloppy and move on jor.

donnie:
LIAR, scripture says they shall be SOLD as slaves. Do you even have evidence that they were shipped at all?
donnie, look at you dulling again, lol. Chief, I already provided evidences that they shipped in reply nah. Go back and re-check, lol. You will see one by Josephus, that says: "... over seventeen he put in chains and sent to hard labor in Egypt... " and the other by Munter, who said: "... And those who were still not sold there were herded into ships and were taken to Egypt. ..." both are in quotes donnie, lol

donnie:
Show me historical evidence that....
1. They were SOLD as slaves.

Deuteronomy 28:48
Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger,
and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things:
and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
[img]https://s6/images/SlavesEgypt.jpg[/img] [img]https://s6/images/SlavesEgypt2455a788f074e750c.jpg[/img]
Mister "Show me historical evidence that 1. They were SOLD as slaves" I'll give you historical evidence. Dont you worry. I'll give you historical evidence and all, lmao, just donnie, calm down and stop pasting unneccesarily and unneeded graphic pictures upandan the whole place

donnie:
Show me historical evidence that....
2. They had yokes of iron in their necks (Deut 28:48).

Deuteronomy 28:48
Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger,
and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things:
and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
So what if they did, huh?
Look brother, I have just shown you two pictures shown above, of Jewish slaves with chain placed on their necks being led away by Romans. It is undisputably that this Deuteronomy 28:48 was most definitely fulfilled during the 70 AD period Roman-Jewish wars.

donnie, I just honestly feel sorry for you. I really do. Listen donnie, brother, Black people during the transatlantic slave trade were not the first people to have yokes of iron placed around their necks when enslaved. Now for you, to want to state otherwise is simply incorrect and you're doing so, either through ignorance or purposefully trying to mislead.

We do know that the Israelites were taken from Israel to Egypt during the Roman-Jewish wars and put in chains. Remember the Roman emblem was also the Eagle so if the Eagle must be a referent to the country that it represents then the Roman empire would fulfil that.

Also, chains were regularly used as a punishment for slaves in the Roman era. This Roman-era iron slave shackles are not peculiar to only black people. Remember Spartacus. Or even, how do you explain off, the hundreds of Roman graves in southwest France, some of which contain skeletons still bound by shackles on, unearthed by Archaeologists, huh donnie?

donnie:
The Israelites in America are living proof of the prophecy. The amount of Jews you researched that were taken to Rome does not qualify to fulfill a major event of change for the nation of Israel like the slavery to America.
[img]https://s6/images/E7067_Roman_Captive_Figurine.jpg[/img]
A Roman figurine of a bound captive,
with a flat back and a vertical & horizontal piercing for mounting;
found in Broxholme, Lincolnshire United Kingdom

donnie, please Deuteronomy 28:15-68, are the curses that would ensue should the Israelites depart from the agreement entered in the covenant made with YAH, that involved a communion meal and a blood ritual elaborate ceremony, now why are you bang on trying to focus on isolated and single verses here and there, hmm?

donnie:
And by the way, the word "buy" in "no man shall buy you" (Deut 28:68) is actually "redeem" from the Hebrew word "qanah" [H7069].

Redeem - save (someone) from sin, error, or evil: he was a sinner, redeemed by the grace of God.
"He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity:
he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.
"
- Revelation 13:10

"47"Someone who is a foreigner without a permanent home among you may become rich,
and your relative living with him may be poor.
The poor Israelite may sell himself to that foreigner or a member of his family.
48After he has sold himself, he has the right to be bought back.
One of his brothers may buy him back
"
- Leviticus 25:47-48

"and said: "As far as possible, we have bought back our fellow Jews who were sold to the Gentiles
Now you are selling your own people, only for them to be sold back to us!"
They kept quiet, because they could find nothing to say.
"
- Nehemiah 5:8

You like throwing big words around bthat you dont fully understand, like mentioning Babylon with US in brackets. So what Babylon? Smh. Please, dont get me started with you on the Babylonians.

Mister tisa donnie teacher, stop teaching yourself nonsense, now fyi, what Deuteronomy 28:68 is saying is that, there wont be an option for anyone to set you free as a result of paying for your freedom. No man shall buy you back, not even a brother. Nobody is going to buy them because they're dead men walking. They are marked to be destroyed, be killed, be used for sport in the Colosseum etcetera

Hegesippus, aka Hegesippus the Nazarene, a chronicler of the early Church, believed to have been a Jewish convert and was someone who talked against heresies, says in his chronicles about the Jews:
There were many captives offered for sale, but few buyers, because the Romans disdained to take the Jews for slaves; and there were not Jews remaining to redeem their countrymen.

Moses in Deuteronomy 28:45-46 prophesised by saying:
"45“If you refuse to listen to the LORD your God and to obey the commands and decrees he has given you,
all these curses will pursue and overtake you until you are destroyed.
46These horrors will serve as a sign and warning among you and your descendants forever.
"


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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 11:10am On May 06, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
lmao. You just wait, let me hurriedly get to finish up the response to your other post you posted talking about chains, shackles, etcetera whatnots lmao. I will further show you up for what you are, and that is, you're a Boko.

What else would you do than try to be smart with words to no avail? They catch you here, you jump to another place and bring up more distractions. I nor get your time biko. Lies, no matter how long in existence will always be overcome by TRUTH.

MuttleyLaff:
All these simple Bible 101 easy peasy lemon squeezy questions are too hot for you to handle, you have no choice other than just have to drop them. Smh. There is no questions of yours, you throw at me that I cant and wont correctly answer. Why? It is because unlike you, I know my onions. I have done my homework, my 2 Timothy 2:15 and Proverbs 4:7-9 very well, lmao

I didn't ask you for your resume. undecided

MuttleyLaff:
You're already going through the judgment of YAH, it all started right from the moment you ran from the wolf in sheep clothing into a welcoming and embracing arms of a devouring bear, lmao. You jumped from the fry pan into the fire place, lmao, and that's right into the middle of the judgment of YAH. You are in trouble donnie, your pride and covetousness have pushed you into big, big trouble. You false prophet (i.e. Ezekiel 22:28, Ezekiel 13:6 and Ezekiel 13:3) angry angry angry

Mtcheew, it's not difficult to see who is full of pride and obsessed with making a point or being correct.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 11:43am On May 06, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


https://s6/images/SlavesEgypt.jpg
Look brother, I have just shown you two pictures shown above, of Jewish slaves with chain placed on their necks being led away by Romans.
It is undisputably that this Deuteronomy 28:48 was most definitely fulfilled during the 70 AD period Roman-Jewish wars.

You're a bloody lair! I think you dont know who you're dealing with. Even the name of the image you inserted betrays you. It reads, s6/images/SlavesEgypt.jpg

O...what a SCAMMAER cheesy You nor dey tire? grin For those of you reading, hope you can see how Satan uses and dumps people in disgrace. grin

So this is the powerful reply you were preparing?
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 11:44am On May 06, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


[img]https://s6/images/SlavesEgypt.jpg[/img] [img]https://s6/images/SlavesEgypt2455a788f074e750c.jpg[/img]
Mister "Show me historical evidence that 1. They were SOLD as slaves" I'll give you historical evidence. Dont you worry. I'll give you historical evidence and all, lmao, just donnie, calm down and stop pasting unneccesarily and unneeded graphic pictures upandan the whole place

And by the way, hope you can see those are clearly negroes? The wooly hair, afro, noses etc. This is a clearer image...

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 11:44am On May 06, 2020
donnie:
What else would you do than try to be smart with words to no avail? They catch you here, you jump to another place and bring up more distractions. I nor get your time biko. Lies, no matter how long in existence will always be overcome by TRUTH.
I told you that you've priced market, without having the purchasing power. You tried jumping over gate, but have got your agbada hooked on the frame. Make I borrow that colloquial from you, lmao.

I am giving it to you hot, left, right, top, under and centre, gbas, gbos, and I even havent started yet. You're slow, you lack depth. Your mistakes, betrays a false sense of confidence you have, but most importantly is that you are going on about it the wrong way. You're not a believer, you have a different Yahushua Ha Mashsiach and a different gospel. You no doubt are born again, but you certainly arent saved. You need to shed that carnality mindset of yours because flesh and blood cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Of course, as I said you're born again, and that will allow you to see the Kingdom of Heaven, but trust me, it is flesh and blood, your carnality, that will prevent you from entering brother. Please, hear me, please listen to me. Reason it out now, reason it out with, three things will last forever, three things are eternal, every other things will disappear. The three things donnie are: Faith, Hope and Love. No prizes for guessing which out of the three is the greatest donnie. It is LOVE, donnie. Please again donnie, my heart is heavy right now, begging you. Preach the Gospel, demonstrate love, in thoughts, speech, deeds, actions, writing, post etcetera

donnie:
I didn't ask you for your resume. undecided
That was bible, not a resume

donnie:
Mtcheew, it's not difficult to see who is full if pride and obsessed with making a point or being correct.
donnie, bro, lmao, confidence, is sometimes mistaken for arrogance and/or pride.

People, like you, for some reason, don't like it when someone else comes to put a straight stick alongside their crooked stick lying on the ground
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 12:34pm On May 06, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
No prizes for guessing which out of the three is the greatest donnie. It is LOVE, donnie. Please again donnie, my heart is heavy right now, begging you. Preach the Gospel, demonstrate love, in thoughts, speech, deeds, actions, writing, post etcetera

Abeg leave story for storyteller, since when did speaking truth become hate? When we first establish TRUTH, then we can talk about how to be nice to the strangers in our midst. But you don't come as a thief to staeal our inheritance and start preaching love. grin

And about Deuteronomy 28 curses.
A covenant was agreed upon with blessings for keeping it and curses for breaking it. Our people broke the covenant and still do today with the breaking of YAH's commandments. It is obvious our people are still under the curse. Everywhere you find children of YAKUB around the world, they are at the bottom of the laddder, suffering under the curses. No other nation of people fulfil those curses and no amount of lies you cook up can change the obvious fact.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 12:41pm On May 06, 2020
donnie:
You're a bloody lair! I think you dont know who you're dealing with.
Even the name of the image you inserted betrays you. It reads, s6/images/SlavesEgypt.jpg

O...what a SCAMMAER cheesy You nor dey tire? grin For those of you reading, hope you can see how Satan uses and dumps people in disgrace. grin
"... be sure your sin will find you out.
(i.e. ...Be certain of this, that your sin will catch up to you!)
"
- Numbers 32:23b

donnie and/or those reading, dont mind donnie, it was me, who named the jpeg SlavesEgypt with the jpg extension nah, lmao, smh. Stop fishing for sympathy votes. You should have thought of your many sins first, like when the eight other murderous blood thirsty brothers lot, agreed to sell their flesh and blood to Midianites merchantmen, the Ishmaelites, descendants of Ishmael, the elder son of Abraham, as slave, for twenty pieces of silver, who afterward ferried him to Egypt, as a slave of course. Or you have selective memory recall right, lmao. Cat has got your tongue isnt it. Smh. Oh I tell you donnie, the sins of Israel are many, its not just one, they pushed YAH sotay He wanted to obliterate them off the face of the earth at one time, if not for Moshe, who interceded on their behalf, just as Yahushua Ha Mashsiach has done for alll of us world wide now, then when they committed adultery, YAH had no choice than to issue them a divorce certificate. Or are these lies donnie, hmm?

1/ https://www.ancient.eu/image/4578/detail-roman-slaves-relief-slab/
2/ https://www.ancient.eu/article/871/the-spartacus-revolt/

donnie:
So this is the powerful reply you were preparing?
You are out of depth donnie. I am not a Nephilim, I am not a bullying giant. I dont kick a man in the teeth, when he is crouching and down.

donnie, I am not fighting you. Normally, I'll just leave you and let you be. I have already told you that, I have more than I say, and I've spoken less than I know. I have been on the journey long before you man. You see Bodydialect57, asked you a pertinent question, which your response was feeble, lacked depth, and even aplomb sef. It was smh glaring your tank is empty, lmao. I have better maps, documents, books, all that I properly understand. I can tell you the connection between the Yorubas, the Kingdom of Benin, I laughed myself almost wetting my pants, when I saw you fumble at not knowing the relationship of the kingdom of Benin with the kingdom of Judah. Just smh, at how you couldnt understand the implications of each one of all those kingdoms littering the West African coastlines, from Ghana to Cameroon. Do you know about the pyramids in Ibo land, I doubt you d?. What about the Hebrew inscription on the Oranmiyan staff at Ile-Ife, lmao? The Hebrew word Yud and Resh? Where the yud represents one who is subservient to YAH and reish’s two lines represents intellect and speech, lmao, you didnt know about that, did you?

So see donnie, YAH's in His infinite wisdom, come what may, is always in control. He allowed Noah's sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth be as they are, lmao. He then prophesied to Abraham about His plan to the Gentiles through Abraham's seed. C'mon nah donnie. Preach the Gospel properly, thats all I ask you. Look, we can share notes etcetera, break bread, drink wine together. Its no problem with me. The sky is wide enough for all birds to fly. We can have a private chatroom session
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 12:58pm On May 06, 2020
donnie:
Abeg leave story for storyteller, since when did speaking truth become hate? When we first establish TRUTH, then we can talk about how to be nice to the strangers in our midst. But you don't come as a thief to staeal our inheritance and start preaching love. grin
donnie, calm down, calm down brother. Nobody is coveting any other person's inheritance. I know who I am before YAH, so does the next person. Love and compassion conquers all brother

donnie:
And about Deuteronomy 28 curses.
A covenant was agreed upon with blessings for keeping it and curses for breaking it. Our people broke the covenant and still do today with the breaking of YAH's commandments. It is obvious our people are still under the curse. Everywhere you find children of YAKUB around the world, they are at the bottom of the laddder, suffering under the curses. No other nation of people fulfil those curses and no amount of lies you cook up can change the obvious fact.
Ah o ma se ooo. Pikin see herbs, hin call am vegetable.

You would have to ask Noah why He blessed Shem and Japheth, but never Ham. Also ask what's the reason why he skipped blessing Ham, only to then to lay into Canaan, cursing him that, he will be a servant of servants to Shem and Japheth. You know that Noah, even said, Japheth shall live in the tents of Shem, right, hmm donnie, lmao? donnie, listen bro, hin don tay when yansh don bin get parting for middle ooo.

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