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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 1:30pm On May 06, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


donnie, I am not fighting you. Normally, I'll just leave you and let you be. I have already told you that, I have more than I say, and I've spoken less than I know. I have been on the journey long before you man. You see Bodydialect57, asked you a pertinent question, which your response was feeble, lacked depth, and even aplomb sef. It was smh glaring your tank is empty, lmao. I have better maps, documents, books, all that I properly understand. I can tell you the connection between the Yorubas, the Kingdom of Benin, I laughed myself almost wetting my pants, when I saw you fumble at not knowing the relationship of the kingdom of Benin with the kingdom of Judah. Just smh, at how you couldnt understand the implications of each one of all those kingdoms littering West African from Ghana to Cameroon. Do you know about the pyramids in Ibo land, I doubt you d?. What about the Hebrew inscription on the Oranmiyan staff at Ile-Ife, lmao? The Hebrew word Yud and Resh? Where the yud represents one who is subservient to YAH and reish’s two lines represents intellect and speech, lmao, you didnt know about that, did you?

I don't care what you think you know. I'm not like you who tries to show off about what you know. You don't even know anything. I don't talk too much.

You said, no ISRAELITE alive today can trace his origin to any tribe of ISRAEL. And that in fact their story was brought to an end by Rome and Assyria. How dare you?
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 1:55pm On May 06, 2020
donnie:
I have no business with what you think you know. I'm not like you who tries to show off about what you know. You don't even know anything. I don't talk too much.

You said, no ISRAELITE alive today can trace his origin to any tribe of ISRAEL. And that in fact their story dead and buried by Rome and Assyria. How dare you?
The truth, at first, is a bitter pill to swallow. The root of education is bitter, but the fruit is sweet. My profile signature text says: "The truth will set you free, but first, it will piss you off" lmao. How true that is.

I dont make it a habit to carelessly or recklessly made comments I cant biblically back up with. Everything I've said about the chequered and flagrant disregard of YAH by the Israelites is true and are each or all easily supported with Bible verses. The time YAH wanted to exterminate the Israelites, if not for Moshe, YAH was about just doing that. Don't you know what the tribes of Dan and Ephraim did ni? C'mon brother, don't lose sight of the forest because of the trees now. Should I mention the divorce bill certificate given to Israel ni? Abeggy, leave them one's for LAWMA jor. YAH, is doing an inclusion, everyone is invited regardless colour, gender, sexuality etcetera. We are grown donnie, meaning we have come off age. We have developed to a point where we ought to know, when to do, the right thing, at the right time and done while still remaining in right standing with YAH.

You see donnie, even before Israel come into being, YAH had already been intimating Abraham about His plans and intentions for the Gentiles. The Gentiles are not our enemy. You of course know, who the enemy is.

YAH, would never allow anyone unlawfully take whatever lawfully belongs to you. Nobody can curse whom YAH has not cursed

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 2:12pm On May 06, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

You see donnie, even before Israel come into being, YAH had already been intimating Abraham about His plans and intentions for the Gentiles. The Gentiles are not our enemy. You of course know, who the enemy is.

Romans 11
[1]I say then, Hath YAH cast away his people? YAH forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Romans 11:1,17-21,24-29
[17]And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
[18]Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

[19]Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
[20]Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
[21]For if YAH spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
[24]For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
[25]For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[26]And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
[27]For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

[28]As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
[29]For the gifts and calling of YAH are without repentance.


E pain you there! tongue
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 2:58pm On May 06, 2020
donnie:
Romans 11
[1]I say then, Hath YAH cast away his people? YAH forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Romans 11:1,17-21,24-29
[17]And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
[18]Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

[19]Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
[20]Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
[21]For if YAH spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
[24]For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
[25]For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[26]And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
[27]For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

[28]As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
[29]For the gifts and calling of YAH are without repentance.


E pain you there! tongue
Nah donnie, no pain anywhere because Yahushua Ha Mashiasch has borne my friends, has carried my sorrows. He was wounded for my transgressions. He was bruised for my inquiries and the chastisement of my peace was upon Him.There is no pain. What there is are, joy and gladness because of Romans 11:2-6; 25-36 reassuring and comforting words. Praise YAH. Alleluia.

I thank God for fulfilling the Genesis 22:18 and Isaiah 61:9 prophecies about the Gentiles be blessed in the seed of Abraham and his descendants, sadly bar the tribes of Dan and Ephraim, be known among the Gentiles. YAH is good and all the time, good is YAH.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 3:06pm On May 06, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Nah donnie, no pain anywhere because Yahushua Ha Mashiasch has borne my friends, has carried my sorrows. He was wounded for my transgressions. He was bruised for my inquiries and the chastisement of my peace was upon Him.There is no pain. What there is are, joy and gladness because of Romans 11:2-6; 25-36 reassuring and comforting words. Praise YAH. Alleluia.

I thank God for fulfilling the Genesis 22:18 and Isaiah 61:9 prophecies about the Gentiles be blessed in the seed of Abraham and his descendants, sadly bar the tribes of Dan and Ephraim, be known among the Gentiles. YAH is good and all the time, good is YAH.

We know the tribe of DAN on the West coast of Africa. Sadly, they are known for idolatry and voodoo.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 3:25pm On May 06, 2020
donnie:
We know the tribe of DAN on the West coast of Africa. Sadly, they are known for idolatry and voodoo
They are and the tribe of Ephraim are found wanting and so both omitted in the list donnie.

The tribe of Dan, stole Micah's carved image and so were the first, to indulge in idolatry upon setting foot on Canaan, the Promised Land (i.e. Judges chapters 17-18)
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 5:29pm On May 06, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
They are and the tribe of Ephraim are found wanting and so both omitted in the list donnie.

The tribe of Dan, stole Micah's carved image and so were the first, to indulge in idolatry upon setting foot on Canaan, the Promised Land (i.e. Judges chapters 17-18)

What's your own with Dan and Ephraim are they the only tribes? There are Juda, Levi, Asher, Gad, Ephraim etc. on the continent of Africa. There are several locations of even DAN, in Africa and they aren't all into voodun. The one I mentioned earlier is Dahomey (Dan-homey). They revere the serpent (Genesis 49:17) and have serpent temples. The kingdom of Dahomey conquered the Kingdom of Juda I earlier spoke about. After several wars from 1728 to 1740 with the OYO Kingdom, Dahomey became a tributary state of the Oyo. There is the tribe of DAN even in Liberia and Ivory Coast, they speak a language called YAKOBA (Jacob).

There are tribes of Israel scattered all over the continent, especially in sub-Saharan Africa, and that's a provable fact.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 9:45pm On May 06, 2020
Deuteronomy 28:21,25,37
[21]YAHUAH shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
[25]YAHUAH shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
[37]And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither YAHUAH shall lead thee.


THE AFFLICTION IS FOR A REASON

Hosea 5:15
"I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early."

Zechariah 12:10
[10]And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 1:05pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:
What's your own with Dan and Ephraim?
My own with the tribe of Dan and the tribe of Ephraim, is very simple, garing and obvious

donnie:
... are they the only tribes?
Fyi, just as I have previously brought forward and continually called attention to, the tribe of Dan and the tribe of Ephraim are the only tribes missing in the original 12 tribes of Israel, only to be replaced with the tribe of Joseph and the tribe of Levi in the new list.

Them two tribes, the tribe of Dan and the tribe of Ephraim effectively were written out of YAH's inheritance.

donnie:
There are Juda, Levi, Asher, Gad, Ephraim etc. on the continent of Africa. There are several locations of even DAN, in Africa and they aren't all into voodun. The one I mentioned earlier is Dahomey (Dan-homey). They revere the serpent (Genesis 49:17) and have serpent temples.
"Dan shall be a serpent in the way, a viper by the path,
that bites the horse’s heels so that his rider falls backward
"
- Genesis 49:17

"You are a bunch of evil snakes, so how can you say anything good? Your words show what is in your hearts.
(i.e. You offspring of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things?
For out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks)
"
- Matthew 12:34

No surprises there, the tribe of Dan. Read Judges 17:1-13 and Judges 18:1-31 about how the tribe of Dan were the first upon entering Canaan, the Promised Land to go into dedicated idolatry.

donnie:
The kingdom of Dahomey conquered the Kingdom of Juda I earlier spoke about. After several wars from 1728 to 1740 with the OYO Kingdom, Dahomey became a tributary state of the Oyo. There is the tribe of DAN even in Liberia and Ivory Coast, they speak a language called YAKOBA (Jacob)
"The LORD says,
"When Israel was a child, I loved him and called him out of Egypt as my son.
"
- Hosea 11:1

"7This disaster came upon the people of Israel because they worshiped other gods. They sinned against the LORD their God, who had brought them safely out of Egypt and had rescued them from the power of Pharaoh, the king of Egypt.
8They had followed the practices of the pagan nations the LORD had driven from the land ahead of them, as well as the practices the kings of Israel had introduced.
9The people of Israel had also secretly done many things that were not pleasing to the LORD their God. They built pagan shrines for themselves in all their towns, from the smallest outpost to the largest walled city.
10They set up sacred pillars and Asherah poles at the top of every hill and under every green tree.
11They offered sacrifices on all the hilltops, just like the nations the LORD had driven from the land ahead of them. So the people of Israel had done many evil things, arousing the LORD’s anger.
12Yes, they worshiped idols,b despite the LORD’s specific and repeated warnings.
13Again and again the LORD had sent his prophets and seers to warn both Israel and Judah: “Turn from all your evil ways. Obey my commands and decrees—the entire law that I commanded your ancestors to obey, and that I gave you through my servants the prophets.”
14But the Israelites would not listen. They were as stubborn as their ancestors who had refused to believe in the LORD their God. 15They rejected his decrees and the covenant he had made with their ancestors, and they despised all his warnings. They worshiped worthless idols, so they became worthless themselves. They followed the example of the nations around them, disobeying the LORD’s command not to imitate them.
16They rejected all the commands of the LORD their God and made two calves from metal. They set up an Asherah pole and worshiped Baal and all the forces of heaven.
17They even sacrificed their own sons and daughters in the fire.c They consulted fortune-tellers and practiced sorcery and sold themselves to evil, arousing the LORD’s anger.
18Because the LORD was very angry with Israel, he swept them away from his presence. Only the tribe of Judah remained in the land. 19But even the people of Judah refused to obey the commands of the LORD their God, for they followed the evil practices that Israel had introduced.
20The LORD rejected all the descendants of Israel.
He punished them by handing them over to their attackers until he had banished Israel from his presence.
"
- 2 Kings 17:7-20

"Then the LORD will scatter you among the peoples,
and only a few of you will survive among the nations to which the LORD will drive you
"
- Deuteronomy 4:27

"I'll scatter them in foreign countries that they and their ancestors have never even heard of.
Finally, I will send enemy soldiers to kill every last one of them.
(i.e. I will scatter them among the nations that neither they nor their fathers have known,
and I will send a sword after them until I have finished them off/until I have annihilated them.)
"
- Jeremiah 9:16

"I am watching over them for harm and not for good,
and every man of Judah who is in the land of Egypt
will meet his end by sword or famine, until they are finished off.
"
- Jeremiah 44:27

donnie:
There are tribes of Israel scattered all over the continent, especially in sub-Saharan Africa, and that's a provable fact.
[img]https://s4/images/1100---1600-ExpulsionJewsjpg.png[/img]
Expulsion of European Jewish communities between 1100 and 1600.
The main routes that followed the Spanish Jews are marked in light brown


Do you really think, I am disputing with you, that the 12 tribes of Israel are scattered all over the continent, especially in sub-Saharan Africa, huh? The tribes of Israel are scattered all over the world as far as the four corners of the world.

What was the fate of the Israelites, after the second temple was pillaged and then destroyed in 70 AD by the Romans, after Jerusalem was levelled to the ground and the Southern kingdom, the original kingdom of Judah? Where exactly was this Jerusalem that was destroyed in 70 AD?

The Gold coast, Tooth coast (i.e. Ivory coast) Slave coast, Pepper coast, Grain coast etcetera and then the kingdoms, like the kingdom of Benin, the kingdom of Judah, the kingdom of Songhai etcetera, the Ibo island in Mozambique etcetera, just as the naming of our very own Lagos, which is different from the original Portuguese Lagos, lmao, were all made up and given those names under Portuguese influence.

Lagos, originally a fishing village, was founded by the Awori, in the 13th century and was called Eko, it was co-inhabited by the Awori and Bini. The original Edo or Bini, the Beninese people, of the Empire of Benin/Benin Kingdom, conquered and resettled there, after taking over the place from the Awori. It actually, is the military nature of the original settlement, that gave Lagos its original name "Eko", which in the Bini dialect, means "war camp"

Initial contact with Benin Empire and neighboring states were made in the 1400’s, by Portuguese explorers, who described the Lagos lagoon inlet, lake and island with their maps making notes of the existence of the Lagos lagoon lake. However, the name Lagos, was given it, by the Portuguese explorer Rui de Sequeira, when he visited the area in 1472, naming the area around the city, Lago de Curamo, or Lake of Healing, but Lagos actually means "Lakes or Lagoon" in Portuguese. Former names were Oko to Eko, from Curamo to Onim, and from Onim to Lagos. Dutch maps depict "Ichoo" obviously Eko, as an important trading town connected by way of Lagoons to Benin and to the Niger.

donnie I hope you know all these sha, lmao hmm? I hope you can see the Portuguese connection forming all over Africa

Its the Lithuanian Jews who went to South Africa to set up the casino industry and Gold mines. I wont talk about the Sephardim Jews, Mizrahi Jews or the Ashkenazi Jews but would say, the Spanish Inquisition that happened in 1478, was a catalyst for the invention of those Jewish names and/or kingdom that littered the West African coast donnie, lmao, by

The Portuguese in West Africa, 1415–1670:
The Portuguese in West Africa, 1415–1670, brings together a collection of documents – the majority in new English translation – that illustrate aspects of the encounters between the Portuguese and the peoples of north and west Africa. This period witnessed the diaspora of the Sephardic Jews, the emi-gration of Portuguese to west Africa and the islands, and the beginnings of the black diaspora associated with the slave trade. The documents show how the Portuguese tried to understand the societies with which they came into contact, and to reconcile their experience with the myths and legends inher- ited from classical and medieval learning. They also show how Africans reacted to the coming of Europeans, adapting Christian ideas to local beliefs and making use of exotic imports and European technologies. The docu-ments also describe the evolution of the black Portuguese communities in Guinea and the islands, as well as the slave trade and the way that it was organized, understood and justified.

The above quote, is from the book "The Portuguese in West Africa, 1415–1670, A Documentary history" by Malyn Newitt. I can send you a softcopy of it, if you want. It's 266 pages and an eye-opener. Another good book is "Homelands and Diasporas: Perspectives on Jewish Culture in the Mediterranean and Beyond" by Dario Micccoli, Marcella Simoni & Giorgia Foscarini. Even go read "Slavery and the birth of an African city: Lagos, 1760-1900" by Kristin Mann

So, its the Portuguese who became heavily active in slave trading in Africa at around 1445, after they discovered the Cape Verde islands and settled there. Slavery was used to fuel their expanding empire and slave trafficking became integral to their florishing enterprise. It was when it became noticed that slavery was big business, that on 18 June 1452, the papal bull, the one, I earlier in one of my previous posts up there mentioned, was issued by the sitting Pope then, Pope Nicholas V to protect it. The same sitting Pope, Pope Nicholas V, in 1455 issued a "Romanus Pontifex" that states "... invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery" It clearly gave King Alfonso, the Fifth of Portugal, a license and go-ahead for King Alfonso, who alone was personally named in the papal bull. I have already earlier mentioned how Spain too joined, so wont bother repeating it, nor wont talk about how everyone else joined the race to molest, pillage and help themselves to Africa

As for those 1747 century maps, like the ones you have, just as the ones I've had access to look at and study on too, they actually are from a 15th centuary European maps collection and/or connection, that designated the coast near Loango, now the western part of the Republic of the Congo, Southern Gabon and Cabinda as "Gulf of the Jews" (i.e. ''golfo do judeus'' or ''golfos dos judeos''). Now speaking of the great voyages of the explorer, Diogo Cao (i.e. cira 1452- circa 1486), the Anglo-German geographer Ernst Georg Ravenstein (1834-1913) speculated saying about them maps and the Hebrew kingdom namings that: "It maybe presumed that Cao, in the course of this second voyage, gained a fuller knowledge of the coast, first discovered by him, to the north of the Congo,. He may thus have visited and named the bay called Golfo do Judeus, the Jews' Bay of the old map, either because there was a Jew on board his vessel, or, what is less likely, because he struck with the Jewish physiognomy of some natives"

Another important fyi, is the Martin Behaim's 1492 Erdapfel, (i.e. Erdapfel is a German word and means ''earth apple'') which is a terrestrial globe produced by Martin Behaim from 1490–1492 and is the oldest surviving, calls the bay "Golfo de Judeo" and there's some speculations, that Jews might have been exiled there following the persecution of Jews in Portugal in 1487. The first recorded reference to a black Jewish community in Loango, is much later and comes from the pen of Christian Georg Andreas Oldendorp (1721-1787)

Making History: The Sephardi Jewish Orphans of Sao-Tome and the African -American Appropriation of their Story the African -American Appropriation of their Story
by Arinze D. Amanfo
https://digitalcommons.fiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5340&context=etd

Download as softcopy or from online link, go read pages 26 - 82 (i.e. read from page 26 as seen at bottom of the paper or from page 91 out 103, as seen at top right corner the pdf)

Page 52 (i.e. 61 out 103) interestingly actually refers to you, donnie, that other EzeBenEphraim guy and the likes of you, with the following observation: "... Many African Americans/Africans identified with the Jewish religion, based on their ties to an African Lineage they believe is the source of Judaism. They hinged these claims on the premise that the trans-Atlantic slave trade resulted in the loss of their Jewish heritage ..."

That EzeBenEphraim guy who likes talking about YAP haplotype group, YAP+ve samples etcetera will be pleased to know it is mentioned in the book.??

[img]https://s6/images/donnieMisleadingPoint.jpg[/img]
Now donnie, about the above Musée d'Histoire de Ouidah, it is the "beautiful" Fortaleza São João Baptista de Ajudá (i.e. in English means, The Fort of St John the Baptist of Ouidah)

It is a small fortress built by the Portuguese in Ouidah on the coast of Dahomey (originally Ajudá, from Hweda, on the Atlantic coast of modern Republic of Benin), reached by the Portuguese in 1580, after which it grew around the slave trade, for which the Slave Coast was already renowned, that is why I put "beautiful" in inverted commas. The reminder of its history is nauseting

Anyway, in 1680 the Portuguese governor of São Tomé and Príncipe was authorized to erect a fort. In 1721, after having been abandoned for some years, it was reconstructed and named São João Baptista de Ajudá. The Fort, was built on land, given to Portugal, by King Haffon of Whydah, the last ruler of Whydah, who was deposed in 1727, when Whydah was conquered and annexed by the Kingdom of Dahomey. It remained under Portuguese control from 1721 until 1961. The name Whydah, is actually in "o-wi-dah", from the Yoruba language of Benin and "Ouidah" in French.

You can spot the lettering, "Fortaleza São João Baptista de Ajudá" written with red ink above the archway and just below the "Musée d'Histoire de Ouidah" blue ink writing. It actually has nothing to do with any wishful thinking fantasy idea over some particular kingdom of Judah anywhere in the world, lmao.

cc: PervertProphet, jared007, bodydialect57, MiddleDimension, Daejoyoung, erim123

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 3:01pm On May 07, 2020
There are also descendants of GAD among the Yoruba. Last Prime Minister of Yarubawa land, Bashorun Gaa is generalissimo, Yoruba war leader. Gideon is Bashorun Ga, Ologunda, Oludariogun, Ogunda, Gunda, Ogaadari-ogun, Gada (Gad). Ogaadri-ogun; Oga (Master, lord, leader, boss), adari (controller, commander), Ogun (war). Ogun-da meaning war destroyer, Ga-da means to separate, break, cut down, destroy, Gun means to stab.

He is the biblical Gad, son of Yaruba, son of Adua. The Ga people of Ghana are linked with the Gad of the bible, people don't bear these names for nothing.

Etymology of the name Gideone: British Baby Names:
The name is derived from the Hebrew gada "to hew down/off, to cut asunder," which has been interpreted in a number of ways. It was once interpreted as meaning "having a stump (for a hand/foot)" while others take the meaning "he who fells" and extend it to "mighty warrior" or "destroyer. Gideon is Gad, field marshal, soldiers highest rank.


Abarim-Publication:
The name Gad, Summary: Meaning Fortune
Etymology:
From the verb גדד (gadad), to cut, invade and expose. Related names • Via גדד (gadad): Armageddon, Azgad, Baal-gad, En-gedi, Gaddi or Gadi, Gaddiel, Hazar-gaddah, Hor-haggidgad, Magadan, Megiddo, Migdal-gad

https://www.sefaturahyorubaresearchfoundation.org/443529847

FUN FACT:
Baale of Judah, means "lords of Judah" in the Hebrew language.
Baale is an equivalent title for the traditional Yoruba king.

Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 4:11pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:
[s]There are also descendants of GAD among the Yoruba. Last Prime Minister of Yarubawa land, Bashorun Gaa is generalissimo, Yoruba war leader. Gideon is Bashorun Ga, Ologunda, Oludariogun, Ogunda, Gunda, Ogaadari-ogun, Gada (Gad). Ogaadri-ogun; Oga (Master, lord, leader, boss), adari (controller, commander), Ogun (war). Ogun-da meaning war destroyer, Ga-da means to separate, break, cut down, destroy, Gun means to stab.

He is the biblical Gad, son of Yaruba, son of Adua. The Ga people of Ghana are linked with the Gad of the bible, people don't bear these names for nothing.

Etymology of the name Gideone: British Baby Names:
The name is derived from the Hebrew gada "to hew down/off, to cut asunder," which has been interpreted in a number of ways. It was once interpreted as meaning "having a stump (for a hand/foot)" while others take the meaning "he who fells" and extend it to "mighty warrior" or "destroyer. Gideon is Gad, field marshal, soldiers highest rank.


Abarim-Publication:
The name Gad, Summary: Meaning Fortune
Etymology:
From the verb גדד (gadad), to cut, invade and expose. Related names • Via גדד (gadad): Armageddon, Azgad, Baal-gad, En-gedi, Gaddi or Gadi, Gaddiel, Hazar-gaddah, Hor-haggidgad, Magadan, Megiddo, Migdal-gad

FUN FACT:
Baale of Judah, means "lords of Judah".
Baale is an equivalent title for the traditional Yoruba king.[/s]
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You have a problem, nobi small.
Continue with your wuruwuru to the answer, OK?


"9When Leah saw that she had ceased bearing children, she took her servant Zilpah and gave her to Jacob as a wife.
10Then Leah’s servant Zilpah bore Jacob a son.
11And Leah said, “Good fortune has come!” (i.e. A troop cometh) so she called his name Gad
"
- Genesis 30:9-11

donnie, fyi, Ghana, was originally known as Gold Coast, until when it was changed to Ghana after independence by Dr. Kwame Nkrumah and Dr. J. B. Danquah. The name Ghana was adopted after thorough research into the history of Ghana dating way back by these two and in actual fact, the etymology of the word Ghana means "Warrior King" and was the title accorded to the kings of the medieval Ghana Empire in West Africa, but the empire was further north than the modern nation of Ghana, in the region of Guinea

Stop extrapolating donnie, the Ghana Empire never extended to any of the Yoruba kingdoms and/or Bini Empire. Stop trying to make fetch happen angry angry angry

Now, I am 10000% sure donnie that, you have no idea what Zipah was insinuating with the way she called her new born son Gad "good fortune has come, troop cometh"
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by sonmvayina(m): 4:33pm On May 07, 2020
this confusion going on in this thread is what you get when you worship an idol.....a god created in the image and like of a man, something that is found on earth..the creator hates idolatry of any kind. it is the worst sin...little wonder he forbade us 'do not make the image or LIKENESS of anything in heaven , on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them.....

some people has turned rebels, they have joined the Europeans to worship a god created in the image and likeness of a Caucasian. something their ancestors never did...

i pity the black man...

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 5:13pm On May 07, 2020
sonmvayina:
this confusion going on in this thread is what you get when you worship an idol.....a god created in the image and like of a man, something that is found on earth..the creator hates idolatry of any kind. it is the worst sin...little wonder he forbade us 'do not make the image or LIKENESS of anything in heaven , on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them.....

some people has turned rebels, they have joined the Europeans to worship a god created in the image and likeness of a Caucasian ...
It is not just only about worshipping idol(s), a god created in the image(s) of man, put aside joining Japheth to worship a god created in the image and/or likeness of a Caucasian, but this is covetousness. This is inordinate desire for another's possessions that isnt yours. Smh.

It is a succession string of contradictions upon contradictions, contradicting themselves, one after the other.

sonmvayina:
... something their ancestors never did...
Yeah, Ham's descendants set off with the wrong foot forward, soon after the antediluvian and why if not all because of envy. Envying Shem that is, to the extent of coveting that which Shem legally and lawfully had. Anyway matters really got belly up and took a turn from bad to worse, by the time they got to Canaan, and that's talking about his son, getting cursed by his grandfather Noah and then his dad, Ham snubbed. Ham, neither received a blessing nor a curse from Noah, he literally was just plainly given a freeze-out, nothing whatsoever proceeded from Noah's mouth upon Ham. He was given the cold shoulder. He was left to deal with his lot and fate

sonmvayina:
i pity the black man...
The black man has been thrown a lifeline by YAH through Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, a bona fide, authentic and true descendant of Shem, unlike the boko lot parading themselves as such. Praise YAH, Allelluia, so save your pity for someone deserving it, like my brother donnie here, even you need to save the pity for yourself too because you're even worse than donnie, sorry for being frank with you sonmvayina. Nothing personal, no offence intended

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 6:07pm On May 07, 2020
sonmvayina:
this confusion going on in this thread is what you get when you worship an idol.....a god created in the image and like of a man, something that is found on earth..the creator hates idolatry of any kind. it is the worst sin...little wonder he forbade us 'do not make the image or LIKENESS of anything in heaven , on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them.....

some people has turned rebels, they have joined the Europeans to worship a god created in the image and likeness of a Caucasian. something their ancestors never did...

i pity the black man...

Don't mind them, even our ancestors who went astray worshipping other gods did not go as far as making a god in the image of the white man. Religion, especially Christianity is truly a curse to our people.

And their pastors lie to them that they are good and that breakthrough is coming grin

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 6:29pm On May 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

donnie, fyi, Ghana, was originally known as Gold Coast, until when it was changed to Ghana after independence by Dr. Kwame Nkrumah and Dr. J. B. Danquah. The name Ghana was adopted after thorough research into the history of Ghana dating way back by these two and in actual fact, the etymology of the word Ghana means "Warrior King" and was the title accorded to the kings of the medieval Ghana Empire in West Africa, but the empire was further north than the modern nation of Ghana, in the region of Guinea

Stop extrapolating donnie, the Ghana Empire never extended to any of the Yoruba kingdoms and/or Bini Empire. Stop trying to make fetch happen angry angry angry

If you don't know a thing, it's better you just shut up. Ever heard of the GA people of southeast coast of Ghana?

There is even a well known and documented migration route of tribes in Ghana through Chad, Nigeria and Yoruba land. Other Nigerian tribes/ ethnic groups followed the same migration route. Ashanti language is even similar to Igbo. Why is it surprising to have similarities in history, language and culture along the migration routes which not only the Ghana tribes followed?

Stop disgracing yourself please.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 6:38pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:
Don't kind them, even our ancestors who went astray worshipping other gods did not go as far as making a god in the image of the white man. Religion, especially Christianity is truly a curse to our people.
You better before it gets late begin to start thinking of how you are going to repent donnie

Do not worship any other god beside Me. Period. It doesnt matter whether it is in the image of Japheth, from whom the white man are descendants of, it doesnt matter.

donnie, there are six things the YAH hates, ah there's even a seventh, which is one He finds disgusting. Some of the six things are: a proud look, a lying tongue, a heart that devises wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, a false witness who speaks and pours out lies, and one who sows discord among brethren. You display every one of them. Smh.

donnie, you're supposed to be Bob the builder, you're supposed to be exhorting, not tearing down. There already, are a lot of jealousy, envy and hatred going on around and about us, without you needing to add your toxic, poison, bitter and caustic dogma, wrong theology, upside down facing loveless Gospel. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Repent because, just as I have previously told you, you are a believer of Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, the Lord and Saviour of the Gentiles, the Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, you have a different Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ and you have a different gospel. You're not saved, and this road donnie, you're trekking on, will only lead to damnation and destruction, if you do repent brother.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 6:53pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:
... 1. EPHRAIM AND JUDAH IN YORUBA LAND
The Bnai Ephraim (Children of Ephraim). Most of them concentrated around various communities in Ondo state since the 1930s, about 2000 people in all. According to their traditions, they came to Nigeria by way of Morocco sometime in the 16th century. Their language is a mixture of Moroccan Arabic with Yoruba, but with bits of Aramaic, such as ima for “mother.” Other Yorubas may call them Emo Yo Quaim – the “Strange People” as like in most ethnic groups, the practice of Judaism is among a very small minority. The Bnai Ephraim have kept portions of the Torah in their sanctuaries which distinguish them from their Igbo counterparts who practice Judaism without much influence from the Torah.

They fit the Biblical description and still maintain the Hebraic customs of the ten tribes. From their circumcision, marriage, childbirth, twinning, naming, and traditional religious customs to the lisping among the Ibadan subgroup. The character of this tribe is in agreement with ancient maps that identify them as comprising primarily the Hebrew tribe of Ephraim.

Those of YAHUNDE (Judah) were placed in the region of West Africa now known as Benin Republic by the Portuguese during the Spanish Inquisition which began in the 1400s where Jews were expelled for Spain and Portugal.

There certainly are various other tribes like Gad among the Yoruba people. But the above is in response to the challenge of MuttleyLaff that no Israelite on earth can trace themselves to a particular tribe of Israel. As wicked as the works of Rome and Assyria which you celebrate were, yet, YAHUAH kept his people and His word will never fail. ISRAEL SHALL RETURN.

donnie:
If you don't know a thing, it's better you just shut up. Ever heard of the GA people of southeast coast of Ghana?

There is even a well known and documented migration route of tribes in Ghana through Chad, Nigeria and Yoruba land. Other Nigerian tribes/ ethnic groups followed the same migration route. Ashanti language is even similar to Igbo. Why is it surprising to have similarities in history, language and culture along the migration routes which not only the Ghana tribes followed?

Stop disgracing yourself please.

What a clown. I really need to stop watering dead plants here. Smh.

What century again, lmao, was their migration donnie. Was it many hundred years after 70 AD or before., hmm? I really would like to know what your answer is going to be donnie, lmao. Smh.

Succession string of contradictions upon contradictions, contradicting themselves, one after the other. We have contradiction galore going on here. He doesnt even know how to separate facts from fiction.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 7:03pm On May 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

Succession string of contradictions upon contradictions, contradicting themselves, one after the other. We have contradiction galore going on here. He doesnt even know how to separate facts from fiction.

What is the contradiction... that GAD is also in Yoruba land? You're the one who is probably dumbfounded, and that's not my problem.

Is it no longer about Ghana? Continue jumping, you will soon land.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 7:10pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:
What is the contradiction... that GAD is also in Yoruba land? You're the one who is probably dumbfounded, and that's not my problem.

Is it no longer about Ghana? Continue jumping, you will soon land.

MuttleyLaff:
What century again, lmao, was their migration donnie?.
Was it many hundred years after 70 AD or before, hmm?

I really would like to know what your answer is going to be donnie, lmao. Smh.
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What a drowning man, you are. Smh.

Quit clutching straws, just kindly respond to the question(s) in the immediate above mention

I tell you what, before you respond, just scroll up ten (i.e. 10) posts up to quietly, carefully and thoughtfully read the extensive fyi I earlier posted that system first hid from view, but thanks be to YAH is now unhidden, then return to face the question after digesting the post, lmao.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 7:13pm On May 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

donnie, you're supposed to be Bob the builder, you're supposed to be exhorting, not tearing down. There already, are a lot of jealousy, envy and hatred going on around and about us, without you needing to add your toxic, poison, bitter and caustic dogma, wrong theology, upside down facing loveless Gospel. Your ignorance knows no bounds. Repent because, just as I have previously told you, you are a believer of Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, the Lord and Saviour of the Gentiles, the Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, you have a different Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ and you have a different gospel. You're not saved, and this road donnie, you're trekking on, will only lead to damnation and destruction, if you do repent brother.

Let me clarify something. The judgement of Esau and the daughter of Babylon is already written. Rome (Christianity-Europe-white man) and the modern (fake) Jews are Esau.

It is better you bring down the building you put up by yourself in your pride and arrogance against YAH and his commandments than wait for Him to bring destruction. That's the reason for my warning. The judgement has already been set.

And I am not a believer in your useless white Jesus, neither will I ever again partake of the abomination of Christianity. SHALOM.

#AwakeOIsrael
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by Nobody: 7:16pm On May 07, 2020
I love this. Not from religious prisms but our genealogy.
Weldone Donnie.
I love history. Real history.
I watched a YouTube food blogger that killed and cooked ostrich in USA and ended up saying that was the first of its kind in this world, that they made history yet he forgot ostrich is from Africa the people of east Africa has been killing and eating ostrich for decades cheesy
The insane guy even ignored that film" the gods must be crazy". But was happy he got roasted really bad on the comment section grin
That is what the whites do. They rewrite history every where they go. Everything they touch.
Our biggest mistake is falling for their manipulations and we have remained slaves ever since.

Yeah, I have come across stuffs like this from a friend from Trinidad and Tobago.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 7:21pm On May 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


Quit clutching straws, just kindly respond to the question(s) in the immediate above mention

I owe you no answers my friend. Go ask your slavemasters or your Euro-brainwashed pastors.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 7:21pm On May 07, 2020
sassysure:
I love this. Not from religious prisms but our genealogy.
Weldone Donnie.
I love history. Real history.
I watched a YouTube food blogger that killed and cooked ostrich in USA and ended up saying that was the first of its kind in this world, that they made history yet he forgot ostrich is from Africa the people of east Africa has been killing and eating ostrich for decades cheesy
The insane guy even ignored that film" the gods must be crazy". But was happy he got roasted really bad on the comment section grin
That is what the whites do. They rewrite history every where they go. Everything they touch.
Our biggest mistake is falling for their manipulations and we have remained slaves ever since.

Yeah, I have come across stuffs like this from a friend from Trinidad and Tobago.

Thank you my woke brother.

SHALOM

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by Nobody: 7:24pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:


Thank you my woke brother.
U are welcome.
A sis.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 7:27pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:
Let me clarify something. The judgement of Esau and the daughter of Babylon is already written. Rome (Christianity the European religion) and the modern (fake) Jews are Esau.

It is better you bring down the building you put up by yourself in your pride and arrogance against YAH and his commandments than wait for Him to bring destruction. That's the reason for my warning. The judgement has already been set.

And I am not a believer in your useless white Jesus, neither will I ever again partake of the abomination of Christianity. SHALOM.

#AwakeOIsrael

MuttleyLaff:
... You don price market, wey money in your hands no reach buy, lmao. You no get land, you wan erect perimeter fence, lmao. Who does that. Oinnn, gerara ere.

You're already going through the judgment of YAH, it all started right from the moment you ran from the wolf in sheep clothing into a welcoming and embracing arms of a devouring bear, lmao. You jumped from the fry pan into the fire place, lmao, and that's right into the middle of the judgment of YAH. You are in trouble donnie, your pride and covetousness have pushed you into big, big trouble. You false prophet (i.e. Ezekiel 22:28, Ezekiel 13:6 and Ezekiel 13:3) angry angry angry

It is only liars and wannabe prophet like you, who twists and misinterprets scripture, and you've had from practices, perfected the art of inserting your lies, delusions, falsehoods, misunderstandings, hatred, in much senseless and useless jargon(s). You have no shame, no ounce of humility in you, with pride, you sit gingerly perched on your tall high horse, you thought, you'll will have a plain sailing at making mischief, and that you would go unnoticed and unchallenged. Smh. Your goose is cooked. Bring them on, your half baked understanding of maps, of history, of etymologies, of the wikipedia pages you copy and paste here, bible exegesis, hermeneutics, theology etcetera and with them all, you try to make YAH look like a liar and as if He doesnt know what He's said.

donnie, have you ever heard of the saying, what goes around, goes around, goes around and comes all the way back around, huh, lmao? Have a look at Genesis 37:26-27, lmao, check it out, to go figure that saying out with it, lmao.

# FREE MUBARAK BALA NOW! angry angry angry
# Shout it from the rooftops
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Wetin concern fish with raincoat?

You're increasingly gradually and steadily confirming to me and everyone else, so far following this thread and reading the contents, that you're a false prophet.

You're whistling in the wind with your slander of falsely accusing me of a white Jesus, lmao. Did you get to read the above immediate mention, that I have reproduced above for you, so you can read again, all I've already said, that you are.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 7:28pm On May 07, 2020
sassysure:

U are welcome.
A sis.


Wow. cheesy
Weldon daughter of Zion!
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by Nobody: 7:32pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:


I owe you no answers my friend. Go ask your slavemasters or your Euro-brainwashed pastors.
Nigerian pastors are not that friendly with European pastors. They will rather go to US.
Remove blacks in UK especially and Pentecostalism will die a natural death.
They boom in the USA because they know how to tap on our sensitive spot and as long as money is involved, black man is all in for the doo. That's why u see them in every street and corners in Nigeria and the theme of all they preach is money grin

Remove that from our naija brothers and they will be bare. This is what happens to people who don't know where they come from people who have lost their identity as a race. We even want to look and talk like the white grin

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 7:35pm On May 07, 2020
donnie:
Wow. cheesy
Weldon daughter of Zion!
[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]
Blind guide wehdon the blind

Let’s pray that God open their eyes so they can quit this nonsense and become believers.
Become ecclesia, not jumping out of the fry pan into the fire place, lmao, like you did donnie, running from Christianity but ended up, yeah that's right, straight into the middle of the judgment of YAH. Ouch.

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Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by donnie(m): 8:27pm On May 07, 2020
sassysure:

Nigerian pastors are not that friendly with European pastors. They will rather go to US.
Remove blacks in UK especially and Pentecostalism will die a natural death.
They boom in the USA because they know how to tap on our sensitive spot and as long as money is involved, black man is all in for the doo. That's why u see them in every street and corners in Nigeria and the theme of all they preach is money grin

Remove that from our naija brothers and they will be bare. This is what happens to people who don't know where they come from people who have lost their identity as a race. We even want to look and talk like the white grin

Truth!

Take out tithes (which is an unscriptural SCAM anyways) and offerings and let's see who will still preach that nonsense they call gospel.

What is Salvation without freedom? What they teach as salvation is that you become nice and stupid.

The judgement of the nations by YAHUSHA HAMASHIYAH when he returns will be all about His brethren ISRAEL and some folks think we should be quiet. All nations will pay for their actions against his CHOSEN people.

Matthew 25:40
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by sonmvayina(m): 1:05pm On May 08, 2020
donnie:


Don't mind them, even our ancestors who went astray worshipping other gods did not go as far as making a god in the image of the white man. Religion, especially Christianity is truly a curse to our people.

And their pastors lie to them that they are good and that breakthrough is coming grin

Our ancestors NEVER went astray...they worshipped the creator and not the creation,..they consult their ancestors for direction which the tanakh also encourages..
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by sonmvayina(m): 1:08pm On May 08, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
It is not just only about worshipping idol(s), a god created in the image(s) of man, put aside joining Japheth to worship a god created in the image and/or likeness of a Caucasian, but this is covetousness. This is inordinate desire for another's possessions that isnt yours. Smh.

It is a succession string of contradictions upon contradictions, contradicting themselves, one after the other.

Yeah, Ham's descendants set off with the wrong foot forward, soon after the antediluvian and why if not all because of envy. Envying Shem that is, to the extent of coveting that which Shem legally and lawfully had. Anyway matters really got belly up and took a turn from bad to worse, by the time they got to Canaan, and that's talking about his son, getting cursed by his grandfather Noah and then his dad, Ham snubbed. Ham, neither received a blessing nor a curse from Noah, he literally was just plainly given a freeze-out, nothing whatsoever proceeded from Noah's mouth upon Ham. He was given the cold shoulder. He was left to deal with his lot and fate

The black man has been thrown a lifeline by YAH through Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, a bona fide, authentic and true descendant of Shem, unlike the boko lot parading themselves as such. Praise YAH, Allelluia, so save your pity for someone deserving it, like my brother donnie here, even you need to save the pity for yourself too because you're even worse than donnie, sorry for being frank with you sonmvayina. Nothing personal, no offence intended

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When did God conceive this plan of sending a Messiah to save humans?,I have read the entire tanakh and I am yet to find it...Amos 3:7 says God does nothing without first telling his servants the prophet,...which prophet did God reveal this plan to?..

You have been avoiding this question..
Re: Is The Skin Colour Of Jesus Christ Important? (A Response To Donnie) by MuttleyLaff: 3:26pm On May 08, 2020
sonmvayina:
When did God conceive this plan of sending a Messiah to save humans?

I have read the entire tanakh and I am yet to find it...

Amos 3:7 says God does nothing without first telling his servants the prophet,...which prophet did God reveal this plan to?..

You have been avoiding this question..

MuttleyLaff:
... What does Yahshua Ha Maschiach mean then.

Try please, what do you see that Yahshua Ha Maschiach, is saying sonmvayina. Forget the Jesus Christ Roman/Constantine invention thing, lol. Let's go ethnic, lol, let's go .

MuttleyLaff:
... what matters to me is the soul, what is going to happen to the soul, after the body goes back to the dust and the spirit goes back to the its Owner, God.

Now one of the main 99 problems you have sonmvayina, is that you are irreverent. I dont care what you believe in or not believe in, but just please, quit knocking, with your substances, what others hold dear and near. Stay in your lane and let others stay in their lanes. The sky is big and wide enough for all birds, without colliding with each other, to fly in it, lol. Now, when as you usually do, drift and start prodding others, that's when and is why, when you do, I come after you, lol.

Please, just do what you know doing best, same with me and others, and lets all hope for the best, when the chickens come home to roost, lol

If you expect me to jump into a rabbit hole and go on a wild goose chase, then sonmvayina, you have another thing coming

sonmvayina, na word bring word come. Remember nah, that it was you who first introduced Psalms nah. Hang on , I'll show you. Does this comment ring a bell to you "When David wrote those psalms, he was running from Saul who wanted to kill him", do you recognise that comment and know who authored it, hmm?

C'mon sonmvayina nah you dey talk like this, erhn? That psalms are not prophesies, hmm?

Fyi from Bible 101, Psalms have different genres and so are classified into at least seven categories. Psalms, as you correctly said, are in the forms of praise songs in the temple, are in the forms about royalty and Messianic prophecy, are in the forms thankgiving made to God for His gracious acts, are in the forms of complaints and so crying out for God's deliverance at moments of despair, are in the forms of Mountain of Fire sort type of prayer as in invoke fire etcetera on enemies. I can go on and on, but you got the gist that Psalms are about prophecies and all

sonmvayina, c'mon now, quit playing games nah and stop pretending that we havent walked up this garden path together nah. Which one nah? Kilode?

So sonmvayina, is the Genesis 22:18 New Testament, when I quoted it inconjunction with New Testament John 8:56, hmm?

To be honest and truthful to you, I still dont 100% understand how you mean:
"Show me beyond every reasonable doubt what Jesus was saving... "

What specifically do you mean, what Jesus was saying? Jesus was saying some many things, but fundamentally what He brought was the Gospel, the Good News

MuttleyLaff:
Remember I've said earlier that, now one of the main 99 problems you have sonmvayina, is that you are irreverent. I dont care what your beliefs or what not your beliefs are, but please, just quit knocking, with your substances, what others hold dear and near. Stay in your lane and let others stay in their lanes. The sky is big and wide enough for all birds, without colliding with each other, to fly in it, lol. Now, when as you usually do, drift and start prodding others, that's when and is why, when you do, I come after you, lol.

Please, just do what you know doing best, same with me and others, and lets all hope for the best, when the chickens come home to roost, lol

"15Moses continued,
“The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him
17Then the LORD said to me, ‘What they have said is right.
18I will raise up a Prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites.
I will put my words in His mouth, and He will tell the people everything I command him.
19I will personally deal with anyone who will not listen to the messages the Prophet proclaims on my behalf.
20But any prophet who falsely claims to speak in my name or who speaks in the name of another god must die.
"
- Deuteronomy 18:15, 17-20

sonmvayina, you need to think about the bigger picture and stop limiting your view to just mere "the Jews, His chosen people or any one else, to believe in the death of the Messiah when He comes in other to be saved" Anyway Deuteronomy 18:15, 17-20 is what you asked for, so there it is up there.

The Messiah came to die sonmvayina, that's the whole essence of what this escathology thingy is all about nah. That's exactly what He said on the cross at Golgota/Calvary, when He paraphrased Psalms 22 that you tried to rubbish. He paraphrased Psalms 22 at the beginning and at the end during His last seven dying words on the cross, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
Jesus is Yahshua Ha Maschiach. C'mon, lol, for shouting and crying out loud, its all plain in sight. Look at the name nah sonmvayina, to see how it fits into the narrative, lol

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