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alBHAGDADI:
Go ahead and post it on your blog.

May God be with you.

Amen. Thanks a lot.

Ok

Terribly flawed teaching!

If you want to understand God's Word and rightly apply it, you must be a critical and logical reasoning person.

It is called "rightly dividing the word of truth".

What is the meaning of life without death? How do you know you're in peace if you have not seen chaos or troubles? What is heaven without an earth? How would you know paradise if there is no hell? What's a God without his creation and subjects?

Remember this lyrics:
Human beings in a mob
What's a mob to a king?
What's a king to a God?
What's a God to a non-believer
Who don't believe in anything?

I'll continue asking:

If we were all born blind, how can you tell that we can't see? If there's no light, how would you know it's dark? Can good exist without evil? How would you know it's good? If there was only right, how would you tell what's wrong? Because it all becomes tasteless! It all becomes plain! But then you still won't know it is all tasteless and plain because none of it exists!


See, growing in fellowship with God is not for simple minded people who just run with everything they're told without understanding it. It doesn't mean you question God's word but you must study properly to understand what was really said, why it was said and who it was said to and when it is expected to happen.

I'm not gonna dive into explaining Matthew 24, 1Thess and Revelation right now. Maybe I would on a later date. But I will say this;

To understand God's will and purpose, you have to begin from Genesis. Why was man created? Why was the world created? Why did God bother creating in the first place?

Then you have to ask, who is God? Who made him God? How did he become God? Why is he God? And why is he also called Lord? Let me drop a little hint here: We only agree and believe he is God because he created all things including us, which means he existed before all things were made. Dictionary defines God as "Supreme Being" which means no one or nothing can stand him or his authority.

Revelation 4:11 says
"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for THY PLEASURE they are and were CREATED".... Before then, it was all plain and tasteless!

If you study creation logically, you will be able to reason and ask why did God say he saw that everything he created was GOOD when there was clearly a tree of knowledge of good and EVIL? This tree is the reason man was considered a failure and sin. This tree was man's downfall and death.

Is God mischievous to deny the existence of evil in his creation? Did he willing make man curious of this same tree and told him he will die if he eats it? What is DEATH? Is it a good or bad thing? Why did Adam and Eve not die when they ate it? Why did the Bible admit that the serpent was right? As he said when they eat the fruit, they will become like God and God rightly admitted that man has become like him now, which led to them being banned from the garden so they don't eat the tree of life. Also didn't God say "let's make man in our image and likeness?" Didn't he keep to his word? So many questions!

But it is the glory of God to hide a matter and the honor of kings to search and reveal it. A king is someone who rules, who makes decrees and it is carried out, who has authority over others. So will you patiently grow in this journey of godliness(mighty rulership and power) or will you chicken out and live a simple life like a servant and be subject to other kings(principalities and powers) who know these secrets of life?

There was NEVER supposed to be religion. And to God, religion still doesn't EXIST!

Nbote:
How supposedly sensible nd religious ppl ridiculing demselves out of fear and paranoia is becoming embarrassing

then you should do well to keep your confused ass out on of religious threads.

Nonsense

alBHAGDADI:
There's currently a notion out there which says that a COVID-19 vaccine might actually be the make of the beast otherwise known as 666. While many who hold the idea base it on speculations that the vaccine will be forced on people, some say it can't be the mark of the beast because the rapture must take place before the Antichrist shows up with his 666.

While no one is certain what the vaccine is, I just want to correct a notion among Christians which says rapture must take place before the Antichrist comes. This is a false doctrine not found in the Bible but in Hollywood movies.

Christians will be here on Earth when the Antichrist shows up and enforcing his mark. That is what Jesus Christ himself said.

The concept of rapture before the Antichrist was made popular by movies like LEFT BEHIND and some America. televangelists. Before 1800, there was no church or preacher holding such doctrine. It was started by a man named John Darby who even wrote his own Bible which lacked key verses. Today, the doctrine is held by roughly 65% of Christians. The doctrine that we will escape the tribulation is false and not Biblical.

Jesus himself spoke of when the rapture will take place. Notice how his disciples asked him to tell them what the signs of his coming will be.

Mathew 24:3
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Now read the further

24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

In verse 9, Jesus spoke of Christians getting delievered up for persecution and are killed. That is the tribulation. But false teachers have taught that the people who will face such are unbelievers who are left behind after Christians have been raptured. Well, basically we all agree that the tribulation involves persecution. But the confusion here is who are the people to face the tribulation? Some believe it is unbelievers after Christians have been raptured, while some say it is Christians who will be persecuted by the Antichrist for failing to received the mark of the beast. Let's allow the Bible settle this confusion.

First, let us see whether Christians will be raptured before the tribulation or not.

[Mathew 24:29-31
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Did you see the bold part in the passage above? Did you also see that the rapture takes place immediately after the tribulation of the end times? The events in verse 30 to 31 are the same as described by Apostle Paul in...

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

But some people have deceived many by saying that what Jesus said in Mathew 24 cannot be the rapture because he was talking to the Jews and not to Christians. Why is it not the rapture when it is the same event described by Paul? Trumpet, angels, God's people getting caught up to heaven etc.

Yes, Jesus was talking to the Jews because his disciples who asked him to tell them about the end time were still under Judaism. But if you read Mark 13 and Luke 21, you will see that it's the same thing Jesus said in Mathew 24. At the last verse of Mark 13, Jesus said what he's saying to the people whom some quarters are saying is not the church, he's saying to ALL which includes the church.

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Now, we see that the tribulation occurs before the rapture, but who carries out the tribulation and what is it exactly? The tribulation is the persecution of Christians at the end time such as never was and never will be.

Mathew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Christians will be beheaded and persecuted all around the world. This persecution will be carried out by the Antichrist engineered by Satan himself.

Mathew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)


The Abomination of Desolation is the Antichrist who exhaust himself above everything called god and forces people to worship him.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Did you read the passage above? Did you see where it spoke about the coming of our Lord Jesus? Did you see in verse 3 that the day which Jesus will come will not exists until the man of sin (Antichrist) is revealed? Read verse 4 as well.

Yet some people say Christians won't face the tribulation even when the Bible says the Antichrist who will persecute during the tribulation will come first before Jesus Christ who will come and deliver Christians from his grip. Many will mistake him for Christ.

Mathew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.



This Antichrist will wage war against the saints.

Revelations 13:4-8

13 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

As you can see above, the Antichrist exhalst himself and blasphemes God's name. Is this not the same man Paul spoke of in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4, whom he said must first come before Jesus Christ comes back?

Now as seen in verse 7 above, the Antichrist wages war against the saints and will overcome many. Why is he waging war against the saint if some people believe the saints wont be around during the tribulations? In verse 13, everyone on earth is seen worshiping the Antichrist. Those who won't worship him are those whose names are written in the book of life. This is what will anger the Antichrist and make him wage war against them with great tribulation and persecution.

Revelations 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

What we see so far is that people with their names in the book of life won't worship the Antichrist. But I ask, what are they doing on earth? I thought some people said they would have been raptured and escaped.

The proponent of a pre-tribulation rapture doctrine have said that the people left behind will be unbelievers who will now have to pay with their blood to get saved. They are the ones the Antichrist will persecute. This is a lie. If all Christians will be raptured before the tribulation, then those left will be unbelievers who are already tools of Satan. Do you expect someone who doesn't give a damn about Jesus to stand with Jesus when a cutlass is placed on his neck? He will gladly received the mark of the beast because he's not used to suffering for Christ whom he never believed in.

In revelations 12:17, we see that Satan will make war against those who hold the testimony of Jesus Christ. How some people believe that the people that Satan will make war against are unbelievers is what baffles me. Do unbelievers hold the testimony of Jesus? No.

Basically, what we've seen so far is that the Antichrist comes first, then follows a great tribulation which involves the persecution of Christians. It is immediately after the tribulation that Jesus Christ will appear and will redeem his people through a rapture.

Don't let anyone deceive you. Prepare yourself for that day which is fast approaching.

For the unbelievers, if you happen to be alive during the Great Tribulation, you still have the chance to be saved. Just listen to the preaching of Christians which will be very widespread by then because Christians will perform more during that period.

The reason why true Christians have no fear of the tribulation and the mark of the beast is because they cannot receive the mark no matter. They have been saved by Jesus and sealed with the mark of Christ. It is those who aren't saved but called themselves Christians that are worried and praying to bail out through a false rapture doctrine.

So, if COVID-19 vaccine is the mark of the beast, I'm rest assured that it won't get to me. This may make me lose my job and so many things due to persecution, but not my love for God who has sealed me until the day of rapture when I will meet him in the sky when it is all over. Accept Jesus today by confessing your sins and relying on him. That's the only way to prevent yourself from receiving the 666 in whatever design it comes in.

Note:

As the lockdown period gets eased tomorrow, please beware of fake COVID-19 miracles from false prophets who have been looking for a way to cash in on the pandemic to safe face after discovering that their falsehood has been exposed for not seeing any vision about the coming of the virus. They are warming up, so beware.

Bro,
1. the event Paul described is the rapture (where the ONLY saints will see and meet the Lord in the cloud, with dead saints rising first). This must take place first. That’s the comfort.

2. The event that Jesus Christ described in Matthew is AFTER the rapture which ALL TRIBES will witness. That is actually the second coming of Christ for His millennial reign. In between these two events is the seven year period for the anti-christ to ravage the world and many will be saved except those that received the mark of the beast.

There should not be confusion here. There is abundant old and new scriptures that support the fact that the Master will take away His people before the anti-christ torments. It is the presence of the Saints that is keeping him and Jesus did not die for the evil one to come and torment His own.
That said, let our eyes be on Jesus and let us intimately fellowship with Him everyday. That’s the secret.
God bless you.

helinues:
And there won't be alcohol, olosho, clubbing, smoking again..

What a boring life.. Sorry he should stay wherever he is now.

Give your life to Christ and repent of your sin. Jesus is coming soon. As it happened in the days of Noah so shall it be on that day.

Topmaike007:
if corona is what is bringing anti christ and end time what about Spanish flu first and second World War? That the Bible made us known at the end time country will fight against county that happened already and here we are till date, the world will end one day and I don't think this corona is

And meanwhile have you heard anything from all our top pastor concerning it??

Which one is top pastor you all keep mentioning.

The earlier every one realises we need to know God for ourselves, the better for us.

Pastor Chris end time messages during the lockdown period is beginning to make sense to the world now. Be ready for His coming.

Chosen1984:
My Brother, There is a Difference between Tribulations, Persecutions and The Great Tribulation!

Tribulations, Persecutions etc are what we are passing through right now..

The Great Tribulation is the 7year Period allotted to the antichrist to perform his Enterprise.

The Bride of Christ , the Saints will be taken away ( The Rapture) before this takes effect.

The Rapture of the Saints is what is Hindering the antichrist from his alloted time.

The Great Tribulation is that time when you will not be allowed to buy or sell except you have the Mark of the Beast on your Right hand or your Fore head.

The Great Tribulation will witness GOD'S Wrath on those left behind!

GOD has always taken his people away before His Wrath!

In Conclusion, The Rapture of the Saint will taken place before the Wrath comes on Earth

I'm amused about the OP long epistle denying the rapture. You have summarized the timeline perfectly well

[HIS COMING BACK FOR WE THE BELIEVERS. quote author=helinues post=89126046]What is Jesus coming back to do exactly?[/quote]

quote author=helinues post=89126046]What is Jesus coming back to do exactly?[/quote]HIS COMING BACK FOR WE THE BELIEVERS.

alBHAGDADI:
There's currently a notion out there which says that a COVID-19 vaccine might actually be the make of the beast otherwise known as 666. While many who hold the idea base it on speculations that the vaccine will be forced on people, some say it can't be the mark of the beast because the rapture must take place before the Antichrist shows up with his 666.

While no one is certain what the vaccine is, I just want to correct a notion among Christians which says rapture must take place before the Antichrist comes. This is a false doctrine not found in the Bible but in Hollywood movies.

Christians will be here on Earth when the Antichrist shows up and enforcing his mark. That is what Jesus Christ himself said.

The concept of rapture before the Antichrist was made popular by movies like LEFT BEHIND and some America. televangelists. Before 1800, there was no church or preacher holding such doctrine. It was started by a man named John Darby who even wrote his own Bible which lacked key verses. Today, the doctrine is held by roughly 65% of Christians. The doctrine that we will escape the tribulation is false and not Biblical.

Jesus himself spoke of when the rapture will take place. Notice how his disciples asked him to tell them what the signs of his coming will be.

Mathew 24:3
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Now read the further

24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

In verse 9, Jesus spoke of Christians getting delievered up for persecution and are killed. That is the tribulation. But false teachers have taught that the people who will face such are unbelievers who are left behind after Christians have been raptured. Well, basically we all agree that the tribulation involves persecution. But the confusion here is who are the people to face the tribulation? Some believe it is unbelievers after Christians have been raptured, while some say it is Christians who will be persecuted by the Antichrist for failing to received the mark of the beast. Let's allow the Bible settle this confusion.

First, let us see whether Christians will be raptured before the tribulation or not.

[Mathew 24:29-31
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Did you see the bold part in the passage above? Did you also see that the rapture takes place immediately after the tribulation of the end times? The events in verse 30 to 31 are the same as described by Apostle Paul in...

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

But some people have deceived many by saying that what Jesus said in Mathew 24 cannot be the rapture because he was talking to the Jews and not to Christians. Why is it not the rapture when it is the same event described by Paul? Trumpet, angels, God's people getting caught up to heaven etc.

Yes, Jesus was talking to the Jews because his disciples who asked him to tell them about the end time were still under Judaism. But if you read Mark 13 and Luke 21, you will see that it's the same thing Jesus said in Mathew 24. At the last verse of Mark 13, Jesus said what he's saying to the people whom some quarters are saying is not the church, he's saying to ALL which includes the church.

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Now, we see that the tribulation occurs before the rapture, but who carries out the tribulation and what is it exactly? The tribulation is the persecution of Christians at the end time such as never was and never will be.

Mathew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Christians will be beheaded and persecuted all around the world. This persecution will be carried out by the Antichrist engineered by Satan himself.

Mathew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)


The Abomination of Desolation is the Antichrist who exhaust himself above everything called god and forces people to worship him.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Did you read the passage above? Did you see where it spoke about the coming of our Lord Jesus? Did you see in verse 3 that the day which Jesus will come will not exists until the man of sin (Antichrist) is revealed? Read verse 4 as well.

Yet some people say Christians won't face the tribulation even when the Bible says the Antichrist who will persecute during the tribulation will come first before Jesus Christ who will come and deliver Christians from his grip. Many will mistake him for Christ.

Mathew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.



This Antichrist will wage war against the saints.

Revelations 13:4-8

13 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

As you can see above, the Antichrist exhalst himself and blasphemes God's name. Is this not the same man Paul spoke of in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4, whom he said must first come before Jesus Christ comes back?

Now as seen in verse 7 above, the Antichrist wages war against the saints and will overcome many. Why is he waging war against the saint if some people believe the saints wont be around during the tribulations? In verse 13, everyone on earth is seen worshiping the Antichrist. Those who won't worship him are those whose names are written in the book of life. This is what will anger the Antichrist and make him wage war against them with great tribulation and persecution.

Revelations 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

What we see so far is that people with their names in the book of life won't worship the Antichrist. But I ask, what are they doing on earth? I thought some people said they would have been raptured and escaped.

The proponent of a pre-tribulation rapture doctrine have said that the people left behind will be unbelievers who will now have to pay with their blood to get saved. They are the ones the Antichrist will persecute. This is a lie. If all Christians will be raptured before the tribulation, then those left will be unbelievers who are already tools of Satan. Do you expect someone who doesn't give a damn about Jesus to stand with Jesus when a cutlass is placed on his neck? He will gladly received the mark of the beast because he's not used to suffering for Christ whom he never believed in.

In revelations 12:17, we see that Satan will make war against those who hold the testimony of Jesus Christ. How some people believe that the people that Satan will make war against are unbelievers is what baffles me. Do unbelievers hold the testimony of Jesus? No.

Basically, what we've seen so far is that the Antichrist comes first, then follows a great tribulation which involves the persecution of Christians. It is immediately after the tribulation that Jesus Christ will appear and will redeem his people through a rapture.

Don't let anyone deceive you. Prepare yourself for that day which is fast approaching.

For the unbelievers, if you happen to be alive during the Great Tribulation, you still have the chance to be saved. Just listen to the preaching of Christians which will be very widespread by then because Christians will perform more during that period.

The reason why true Christians have no fear of the tribulation and the mark of the beast is because they cannot receive the mark no matter. They have been saved by Jesus and sealed with the mark of Christ. It is those who aren't saved but called themselves Christians that are worried and praying to bail out through a false rapture doctrine.

So, if COVID-19 vaccine is the mark of the beast, I'm rest assured that it won't get to me. This may make me lose my job and so many things due to persecution, but not my love for God who has sealed me until the day of rapture when I will meet him in the sky when it is all over. Accept Jesus today by confessing your sins and relying on him. That's the only way to prevent yourself from receiving the 666 in whatever design it comes in.

Note:

As the lockdown period gets eased tomorrow, please beware of fake COVID-19 miracles from false prophets who have been looking for a way to cash in on the pandemic to safe face after discovering that their falsehood has been exposed for not seeing any vision about the coming of the virus. They are warming up, so beware.

Great effort but you're yet to recognise the difference between

1. The Rapture (not a term in the Bible hence, many mistakes)
2. The Second Coming (physical return to destroy anti-christ and begin the millennial reign)

Beginning from Daniel's 70th week would help a great deal. Between 69th and 70th week is the time of the church which ends with the Rapture.

Daniel didn't even see the time of the church which is 2000 years between the 69th and the 70th week. Most of the things you quoted are on God's dealings with Isreal.

The Second Coming happens at the end of the 70th week which ends the war of Armageddon and ushers in the judgement of the nations and the millennial reign (1000 years).

Saints are people who believe in Jesus Christ jews or gentiles, and when you remember that the gospel will still be preached globally after the Rapture by the 144,000 chosen jews then clearly people will be saved including jews and the rest of the world. These are the tribulation saints who would be overpowered by the anti-christ.

Another thing you should also consider is that Anti-christ won't rule China, Russia and a few other nations. All these and more are well captured in the Bible.

When we understand that the great tribulation and the activities are centred on Europe backed anti-christ taking over Jerusalem and destroying jews and none jews who believe in Jesus in the process, things become clearer.

Samuellawale:
Devil has blind your insight for spiritual understanding... Pls read that Matthew 24 again and pray that the holy Spirit hi you divine meaning to it... That's if you are a child of God

But if not, confess your sin and accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior first, then read the Bible with the help of the Holy Spirit

a child of God don't argue the way you do.
A child of God will simply point out were the devil has blinded the person in the scripture

MrPresident1:
alBHAGDADI,even though you used all the right Bible passages, you got ALL your timelines wrong.

Covid 19 has been used to fulfill Matthew 24:30

The sign of the son of man in heaven

I disagree with you.
Covid 19 is not a fulfillment of the sign of the son of man.

The son of man will appear, his appearance is not something that will go without notice. It shall be heralded by a great shout. That of the blast of a trumpet.

Like he said, the antichrist will manifest prior to the great tribulation.
Don’t be surprised he is around already, he is only waiting for the appointed time.

I pray that believers with have a better understanding.

Mbataku96:
Because l know that the body you have now makes you miserable.

really? you know? you people never cease to amaze.

alBHAGDADI:
The verse 24 you quoted talked about the Great Tribulation. If you read further, you will see that Jesus said he will be coming immediately after the tribulation of those days, not before.

Mathew 24:29-30 KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


What you copied and pasted here is incoherent.

You are confusing yourself.

Alot of paranoid and mentally unstable people on this thread.

helinues:
And there won't be alcohol, olosho, clubbing, smoking again..

What a boring life.. Sorry he should stay wherever he is now.

Guy u get sense so... Na hellfire dey knock for ur gate

Sometimes I ask myself, why are people so dumb so many people don't believe that Jesus Christ will come again the end is near my brethren... This is no time for jokes if u are still a sinner there is still time for u to turn back to God am still talking to myself here... Live a holy and righteous life, don't want to talk abt our pastors only baba God will judge them not me

Your mates all over the world are staying up day and night, searching and researching, giving nomenclatures, finding way out, testing and volunteering for vaccines which you guys will eventually fall back on just like your parents did and vaccinated y'all which prevented your mortality at an early age. All freaking fanatics. All you do is argue day and night over religion and tribes. No wonder the developed countries think less of Africans. Who would blame them. They are justified.

Osek:
Sometimes I ask myself, why are people so dumb so many people don't believe that Jesus Christ will come again the end is near my brethren... This is no time for jokes if u are still a sinner there is still time for u to turn back to God am still talking to myself here... Live a holy and righteous life, don't want to talk abt our pastors only baba God will judge them not me

Your mates all over the world are staying up day and night, searching and researching, giving nomenclatures, finding way out, testing and volunteering for vaccines which you guys will eventually fall back on just like your parents did and vaccinated y'all which prevented your mortality at an early age. All freaking fanatics. All you do is argue day and night over religion and tribes. No wonder the developed countries think less of Africans. Who would blame them. They are justified.

alBHAGDADI:
The verse 24 you quoted talked about the Great Tribulation. If you read further, you will see that Jesus said he will be coming immediately after the tribulation of those days, not before.

Mathew 24:29-30 KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


What you copied and pasted here is incoherent.

Does Jesus get married to the church? if he does at what point does he get married to the church? And when he returns during the reign of the AC does he come as a husband to the church already? Think about this

Well for all you Christians there you see by the way things are going the vaccine is going to be compulsory and most Christians shouting second coming would take it. i can imagine when Christians are faced with a life or death situation take the vaccine and live or resist and die of the virus. dont lie most of you would take it. in fact its then you would say 666 can never be the vaccine the end days is not here yet. even your Nigerian pastors have kept quiet all this time doesnt that tell you something. more-ova all they need to convince gullible Christians is for one prominent man of God to back the vaccine and as usual you sheep would follow. you are all mindless zombies. the same pastor that deceives you to give all you have to the church buy protective sticker etc and you obey its now when the come out and say take the vaccine you would resist. you are all deceiving yourselves

Cosyfaith:
Your mates all over the world are staying up day and night, searching and researching, giving nomenclatures, finding way out, testing and volunteering for vaccines which you guys will eventually fall back on just like your parents did and vaccinated y'all which prevented your mortality at an early age. All freaking fanatics. All you do is argue day and night over religion and tribes. No wonder the developed countries think less of Africans. Who would blame them. They are justified.

you have been noticed, now run along to go get the vaccine like your peers world over are doing......you not looking bad at all anyway

MrPresident1:
No, Heaven will be right here on this earth. Jesus is returning, he is the King of the world, the government will be on his shoulders. Jesus will make the earth to become beautiful. As Jesus is God, anywhere God dwells is heaven.

Lol why you still dey answer the guy sef

ideaz:
Great effort but you're yet to recognise the difference between

1. The Rapture (not a term in the Bible hence, many mistakes)
2. The Second Coming (physical return to destroy anti-christ and begin the millennial reign)

Beginning from Daniel's 70th week would help a great deal. Between 69th and 70th week is the time of the church which ends with the Rapture.

Daniel didn't even see the time of the church which is 2000 years between the 69th and the 70th week. Most of the things you quoted are on God's dealings with Isreal.

The Second Coming happens at the end of the 70th week which ends the war of Armageddon and ushers in the judgement of the nations and the millennial reign (1000 years).

Saints are people who believe in Jesus Christ jews or gentiles, and when you remember that the gospel will still be preached globally after the Rapture by the 144,000 chosen jews then clearly people will be saved including jews and the rest of the world. These are the tribulation saints who would be overpowered by the anti-christ.

Another thing you should also consider is that Anti-christ won't rule China, Russia and a few other nations. All these and more are well captured in the Bible.

When we understand that the great tribulation and the activities are centred on Europe backed anti-christ taking over Jerusalem and destroying jews and none jews who believe in Jesus in the process, things become clearer.

Wrong. What you wrote is not biblical... See what Revelation stated

Revelation 13:1-10 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
If any man have an ear, let him hear.
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Always follow the word of God

Revelation 20:4
"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years".

Cosyfaith:
Your mates all over the world are staying up day and night, searching and researching, giving nomenclatures, finding way out, testing and volunteering for vaccines which you guys will eventually fall back on just like your parents did and vaccinated y'all which prevented your mortality at an early age. All freaking fanatics. All you do is argue day and night over religion and tribes. No wonder the developed countries think less of Africans. Who would blame them. They are justified.

Just say you are scared, and you wish the word of God won't come to pass instead of using this diversary tactics

They are selling Jesus again I am not buying

Lexusgs430:
Christ is never coming again and this world would never end...

Stop deceiving yourselves......

The day you die, your world ends........ QED

Sorry, the truth of NDEs is enough to squash this claim.
It is one of the propaganda promoted by Atheists (materialists, evolutionists) to support their claim of no God, no purpose for being on earth and hence no life after death

You are on point

Pelecius:
Sorry, the truth of NDEs is enough to squash this claim.
It is one of the propaganda promoted by Atheists (materialists, evolutionists) to support their claim of no God, no purpose for being on earth and hence no life after death

What makes you beliefs superior and negates mine?