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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 123jamessmith: 2:04pm On May 03, 2020
Lookman has always been a good player.Technically gifted. Even if we are not going to use him now, we should try and secure his switch.you can never tell the guy might just pick form and England we start showing interest in him. We should never forget the case of Ebere eze.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:39pm On May 03, 2020
123jamessmith:
Lookman has always been a good player.Technically gifted. Even if we are not going to use him now, we should try and secure his switch.you can never tell the guy might just pick form and England we start showing interest in him. We should never forget the case of Ebere eze.
Let Lookman get playing time first at Leipzig of any other club then we will call him up.. he already committed to us..
But he can't get called up unless he starts playing..Right now we have enough options in his position...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:52pm On May 03, 2020
Arabiandude:
I forgot to mention Dominic Iofar in my list and surprisingly you also omitted him. I feel Iorfar is better than Adarabioyo...what do you think?
Dominic is possibly the fastest defender in the Championship, he is Athletic strong and quick.

However, technicality is not his strong point.

He was on the up with his team winning all kinds of accolades. Indeed Rohr was seriously looking at him irrespective of the previous politics. His team has lost form so badly it's shocking from contending for top position they have fallen near to the point of possible flirting with relegation.

If your team is failing you loose traction in your personal rating.

Indeed this is something that's going to really help the SE now, the presence of YOBO. He will not compromise on quality and will not be bullied or induced into accepting certain players by NFF officials.

Until l see them both playing good technical composed football it's difficult to ascertain thier true quality.

Nonetheless, as a defender you still need to have some good degree of physicality and athleticism.

We saw how Omeruo was bullied by the Cameroon players in the last Afcon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:54pm On May 03, 2020
maidaboi:
list them
Seconded
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:00pm On May 03, 2020
Arabiandude:
Do you have a Uefa or even Caf badge as a coach? If you don't, then you are also a fan and everything you have stated are basically that of a fan and not a coach, so don't act like you know the coaching aspect of football more than me
There are quite a few coaches without badges.

Getting UEFA badges is not an academic qualification it's an assessment of competencies by practice. It's also considerably subjective.

Just like having a driving licence after passing your test does not automatically make you a good driver. Also longevity and experience do not necessarily equate to competence.

In my experience there are people without badges here who could possibly coach better than many qualified coaches l have met.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Arabiandude: 4:05pm On May 03, 2020
komekn:
There are quite a few coaches without badges.

Getting UEFA badges is not an academic qualification it's an assessment of competencies by practice. It's also considerably subjective.

Just like having a driving licence after passing your test does not automatically make you a good driver. Also longevity and experience do not necessarily equate to competence.

In my experience there are people without badges here who could possibly coach better than many qualified coaches l have met.
Name a well recognized coach that doesn't have a Uefa coaching badge and if you have a Football club, will you employ a coach that doesn't have a badge simply because you feel the coach can do better than most of those with badges?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:08pm On May 03, 2020
charlesemeka85:
oga daye are gone when fear factor they play a part in a teams superiority. Once a team has decent talents doing it in big and decent leagues i see no reason they have to fear the top class opposition.

Aribo was unknown and playing in the scotish league but held his own against almighty brazil, same as ajayi who plays in the english 2nd tier.

The likes of chukwueze and etebo have held their own against the 2 spanish giants, iwobi, ndidi, iheanacho hv rubbed shoulders with kane and the best the epl can offer, ekong and aina is doing the same in the seria A while collins in the bundesliga hv faced the likes of lewandoski n co.

Its not about fear factor but hv team chemistry and cohesion which but be evidence in games.
Agreed football is not a mathematical equation it can be very unpredictable.

When Etebo was signed for Stoke in my mind l really thought he would rip the Championship apart and be in the EPL by January.

But he struggled to make outstanding impact or even be noticed. That was very surprising to me.

Meanwhile Eze statistically speaking is the best player in the Championship. Ejaria is considerably ahead of him as well.

But look how good and essential Etebo is to the SE arguably our best Midfielder in recent times.

Aribo came from nowhere into the SE essentially from English league one and has been OUTSTANDING.

There is good possibility that Eze, Ovie could do the same.

I really get excited about EZE he looks like he could play that AM role better than Iwobi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Arabiandude: 4:16pm On May 03, 2020
komekn:
Agreed football is not a mathematical equation it can be very unpredictable.

When Etebo was signed for Stoke in my mind l really thought he would rip the Championship apart and be in the EPL by January.

But he struggled to make outstanding impact or even be noticed. That was very surprising to me.


Meanwhile Eze statistically speaking is the best player in the Championship. Ejaria is considerably ahead of him as well.

But look how good and essential Etebo is to the SE arguably our best Midfielder in recent times.

Aribo came from nowhere into the SE essentially from English league one and has been OUTSTANDING.

There is good possibility that Eze, Ovie could do the same.

I really get excited about EZE he looks like he could play that AM role better than Iwobi.
The first emboldened is what I am trying to make Emeka understand. Iwobi is currently playing in the premiership and Eze in championship doesn't mean if Iwobi plays in the championship, he will do better than what Eze is currently doing in the championship.

To me it doesn't look like, he will play it better than Iwobi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:22pm On May 03, 2020
ChrisKels:
Awaziem is an all round better center back than Adarabioyo.
I would not jump to that very hasty conclusion so quickly.

You use the term all round, maybe l am misconstrued in my reading but that means in every department essentially.

The only two attributes that Awaziem MAY HAVE BETTER than Adarabioyo and it's not by any means certain is football intelligence and Technicality.

However, on the following Adarabioyo will floor him; Speed, Strength, Physicality, Aerial Dominance and Aggression.

It's difficult to measure technical ability and football intelligence when you are playing do or die , kick and rush football in the English Championship for Blackburn.

How well will Adarabioyo do in Leganese in La Liga. I don't know ❓ On the other hand how well will Awaziem do as a CB playing for Blackburn? ❓
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:30pm On May 03, 2020
Arabiandude:
The first emboldened is what I am trying to make Emeka understand. Iwobi is currently playing in the premiership and Eze in championship doesn't mean if Iwobi plays in the championship, he will do better than what Eze is currently doing in the championship.

To me it doesn't look like, he will play it better than Iwobi.
From talking to managers and players they all confess because the Championship is so physical it is harder to play good technical composed football.

Which would you rather prefer the best CM and most skilful, technicality adapt player in the Yes well as the best statistically in the Championship.

Or a very good players in the EPL which is Iwobi.

Could Iwobi have done what Eze has done, l don't know.

However, one thing l will say is that Eze can shoot like JJay with both feet, which is something Iwobi struggles with Shooting.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:38pm On May 03, 2020
Arabiandude:
Name a well recognized coach that doesn't have a Uefa coaching badge and if you have a Football club, will you employ a coach that doesn't have a badge simply because you feel the coach can do better than most of those with badges?
I know quite a lot of clubs who have coaches with no badges albeit the older coaches and mainly in the Championship downwards.

You know you can be coaching grass roots football and get all your badges. It is not complicated to do.

It is very comparable to passing your driving test, l passed my test after one lesson and first attempt.

I had friends who had been driving for years on Nigeria and for probably a decade. It took one of them about 8 attempts.

The badge is just the most basic requirement or competence certificate. It doesn't make you an accomplished coach.

Meanwhile once you pass your badges you will be employed because of WHO YOU KNOW not what you know 100% from personal direct experience.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 5:12pm On May 03, 2020
komekn:
Dominic is possibly the fastest defender in the Championship, he is Athletic strong and quick.

However, technicality is not his strong point.

He was on the up with his team winning all kinds of accolades. Indeed Rohr was seriously looking at him irrespective of the previous politics. His team has lost form so badly it's shocking from contending for top position they have fallen near to the point of possible flirting with relegation.

If your team is failing you loose traction in your personal rating.

Indeed this is something that's going to really help the SE now, the presence of YOBO. He will not compromise on quality and will not be bullied or induced into accepting certain players by NFF officials.

Until l see them both playing good technical composed football it's difficult to ascertain thier true quality.

Nonetheless, as a defender you still need to have some good degree of physicality and athleticism.

We saw how Omeruo was bullied by the Cameroon players in the last Afcon.
Fast, strong and a good tackler, SE have plenty of them

What we need now is a ball playing defender
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 5:22pm On May 03, 2020
komekn:
I would not jump to that very hasty conclusion so quickly.

You use the term all round, maybe l am misconstrued in my reading but that means in every department essentially.

The only two attributes that Awaziem MAY HAVE BETTER than Adarabioyo and it's not by any means certain is football intelligence and Technicality.

However, on the following Adarabioyo will floor him; Speed, Strength, Physicality, Aerial Dominance and Aggression.

It's difficult to measure technical ability and football intelligence when you are playing do or die , kick and rush football in the English Championship for Blackburn.

How well will Adarabioyo do in Leganese in La Liga. I don't know ❓ On the other hand how well will Awaziem do as a CB playing for Blackburn? ❓
Dude Awaziem is quite physical and very aggressive, he's got strength really. I wouldn't wanna talk down on Adarabioyo Bkus the ball playing part of his style delights me, but, at present, he isn't as good as Awaziem. I like the two and they are in my fantasy eagles line up come AFCON and Qatar, ceteris paribus
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Arabiandude: 5:39pm On May 03, 2020
Subzero047:
Fast, strong and a good tackler, SE have plenty of them

What we need now is a ball playing defender
Left footed ball playing CB like Laporte and Lenglet. You have any in mind?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 5:45pm On May 03, 2020
Arabiandude:
Left footed ball playing CB like Laporte and Lenglet. You have any in mind?
Such player does not exist for now, not even prospects, both local and foreign. Not Torunarigha, not Uduokhai and not Ozornwafor
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Arabiandude: 5:59pm On May 03, 2020
ChrisKels:
Such player does not exist for now, not even prospects, both local and foreign. Not Torunarigha, not Uduokhai and not Ozornwafor
Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:13pm On May 03, 2020
Subzero047:
Fast, strong and a good tackler, SE have plenty of them

What we need now is a ball playing defender
Exactly. One of the German boys(Udokhai preferably) will give us that or Awaziem moves to CB.
Awaziem - Ekong/Omeruo looks good on paper. Ekong is turning into a leader at the back.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:15pm On May 03, 2020
Arabiandude:
Left footed ball playing CB like Laporte and Lenglet. You have any in mind?
grin grin grin You think say we be Brazil
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:28pm On May 03, 2020
ChrisKels:
Such player does not exist for now, not even prospects, both local and foreign. Not Torunarigha, not Uduokhai and not Ozornwafor
Ozorwafor is a decent ball player
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 6:34pm On May 03, 2020
ChrisKels:
Such player does not exist for now, not even prospects, both local and foreign. Not Torunarigha, not Uduokhai and not Ozornwafor
Is Uduokhai not an exception to this?
Dude can play centre back, left back, defensive midfield position.
However, he has lost form in recent times.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Arabiandude: 6:39pm On May 03, 2020
Subzero047:
grin grin grin You think say we be Brazil
Hahahahaha, my brother, I don post am finish before I remember say na Nigeria we be oh and not Brazil or France
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Arabiandude: 6:39pm On May 03, 2020
Clementoke:
Is Uduokhai not an exception to this?
Dude can play centre back, left back, defensive midfield position.
However, he has lost form in recent times.
Is he left footed?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:53pm On May 03, 2020
ChrisKels:
Such player does not exist for now, not even prospects, both local and foreign. Not Torunarigha, not Uduokhai and not Ozornwafor
Lol, this man sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:07pm On May 03, 2020
Subzero047:
Ozorwafor is a decent ball player
seconded but he has to start playing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:18pm On May 03, 2020
Subzero047:
Ozorwafor is a decent ball player
I think I was a bit harsh on Ozornwafor, though my inference was informed by the fact that he hasn't proven nothing so far, professionally. But judging by what he showed at the U20 tourney and his meager stint with the Nzogbu boys of ala Aba, I would tag him a prospect
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:21pm On May 03, 2020
Clementoke:
Is Uduokhai not an exception to this?
Dude can play centre back, left back, defensive midfield position.
However, he has lost form in recent times.
Actually Uduokhai is just there, nothing really special, bkus he has no significant strength, but, he is doing his best. And...yea he isnt a ball playing center back
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:25pm On May 03, 2020
edi287:
Exactly. One of the German boys(Udokhai preferably) will give us that or Awaziem moves to CB.
Awaziem - Ekong/Omeruo looks good on paper. Ekong is turning into a leader at the back.
Ball playing isn't one of Uduokhai's strengths. If u want a ball playing center back, call on no other than Tosin Adarabioyo, that is his basic strength
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:42pm On May 03, 2020
Arabiandude:
Left footed ball playing CB like Laporte and Lenglet. You have any in mind?
Is lenglet that good ?

I am a Barca fan but I still see him as an average player , I might be wrong thou
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Arabiandude: 7:50pm On May 03, 2020
andrewbaba44:
Is lenglet that good ?

I am a Barca fan but I still see him as an average player , I might be wrong thou
He is very good.
The weak link in Barca defence right now is Pique and not lenglet but because he is home grown, he can't be benched for a better CB to be bought to take over his position. It's same thing that's also happening to Busquet...they were both good and wonderful but not anymore.
I am also a proud Barca fan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 7:55pm On May 03, 2020
With our midfield gradually taking shape now is there anyone still craving for the return of Nwakali? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Arabiandude: 7:59pm On May 03, 2020
AllforJesus7:
With our midfield gradually taking shape now is there anyone still craving for the return of Nwakali? grin
Bros make una allow Nwakali rest in peace or pieces na. He is playing for huesca and in 10years from now maybe he will make it to the top.
That Nwakali family have foundational spiritual problem and the earlier they recognize and act towards such, the better for family.
Just imagine, Chidiebere and Nwakali, 2 exceptional midfielders and nothing to write home for the both of them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:03pm On May 03, 2020
AllforJesus7:
With our midfield gradually taking shape now is there anyone still craving for the return of Nwakali? grin
I haven't given up on him, I believe Huesca presents a great platform for him to relaunch his career, I just pray they get promoted
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