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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 9:15pm On May 06, 2020
topellycategory:
Exactly bro the guy is exaggerating too much, No matter how bad UK is it can never be compare with Germany . Germany is a very nice country trust me is not design for a black man.

See, this is the type of negativity I don’t want. If you don’t have anything to add to the thread than start a meaningless argument or stir up trouble, I’m sure you can find a thread that caters to you.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Seun(m): 9:17pm On May 06, 2020
willy2000:
The problem is not your phone it is nairaland, this is 2020, where phone cameras capture 48 or more MP and you can upload such to FB or insta. but nairaland has refused to leave the 2000s. I don't know why seun has refused to revamp or update the site.
I guess we can enable larger uploads.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 9:20pm On May 06, 2020
Aaronsrod:


So you travel all the way to the home of Mercedes Benz and Daimler cars just to ride upandan on bicycle like a child??

Truly, it has been said before in this thread - Germany is no place for a black man!

What?? Riding a bike is not a black or white thing, neither is it a status or wealth thing. Everyone can ride a bike. It is a means of transportation abroad. I can’t believe I had to explain this

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by willy2000(m): 9:30pm On May 06, 2020
Aaronsrod:


So you travel all the way to the home of Mercedes Benz and Daimler cars just to ride upandan on bicycle like a child??

Truly, it has been said before in this thread - Germany is no place for a black man!
And you think life is all about riding Benz and BMWs. pele ohh.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by willy2000(m): 9:41pm On May 06, 2020
Seun:
I guess we can enable larger uploads.

If you enable larger uploads. Hmm, I don't even know how you are hosting this site? But you will also have to consider storage, which is not cheap.
Why not have an algorithm implemented at your backend that resizes the picture to a specific size without degrading the image, and then the frontend can fetch the final result. And the pictures should not be aligned one after the other, it makes it unusable for mobile users, you can create a folder type of handler to hold all pictures and users can decide to click on it to view or ignore. This shouldn't be so hard for you na Oga Seun.

Secondly, the security guarding how to post is crap. if you fix this, it will help reduce the scam/spammers on your site.
How do you solve this issue? Assign a minimum number of characters to be accepted, it should not be less than 100, this engages your users to write good content and not just gibberish or posting memes.
Thirdly, you can actually revamp this site and still maintain this same usability.

Finally, please, do no take this thread to the front page. ABEG!!

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Odingo1: 9:59pm On May 06, 2020
Danielhouston:
Nigerians in Germany and abroad in general, I have a question.

Do you feel settled in Germany or where you live? I see Nigerians here who live in a room in shared apartment but they’re building houses and buying cars in Nigeria and sending all their money to Nigeria. They probably would not live in the house they’re building in Nigeria and they don’t intend to return to Nigeria to live. So what’s the purpose?

I’ve always believed in enjoying my money cos life is short and I make myself at home anywhere I live. I don’t see why I’ll be working hard in Germany but live like a pauper and all my money will be going to Nigeria, I’ll be buying cars in Nigeria that I won’t drive. Or a house that I’ll only stay in when I visit once in a year.

I want to hear your thoughts on this.
I have lived in Germany now for 6 years now,came for masters,finished and stayed, Germany is not home and not where a migrant should call a home. As a black man in Germany there is a chain they place on the leg already that even the children they born here in Germany cannot be able to achieve an enviable height due to the fact that the child will be pulled down before he or she reach a university level except if the child is extra ordinarily brilliant.

Then I have built a duplex in my village and trying another one for renting. I live in a shared apartment to achieve all this. Germany or Abroad is not anyone home. Even if you have resident permit or citizenship in Germany or any Europe, one day you will be remainded that you are a foreigner just as they did to Ozil the footballer.Ozil have return back his citizenship and went back to turkey with his family. The reason why Nigerians and other Africans is holding tight in Germany despite been subjugated as nonentities is because Nigeria is a shithole country of no hope. So a Nigeria Lady will prefer to waste all her life in Germany as single mom collecting monthly stipend than to go home while the men counterpart will be rooming about looking for white lady to pregnant.

No matter how you try, as a black man you are not accepted in Germany. I am yet to see a black police man or woman in Germany.

So investing back home is good if you want to return home in the future while your children remain in Germany and be visiting home ones in a while. It is not good for a person to migrate and forget his root back home. To me as an Igbo man it is a taboo and sacrilege for one to dumb his root and continue his generation in a foreign land. Which mean after the father and mother die the children will continue to live in that country like black Americans in America.That is an abomination of highest order.

Germany as a country is rich, lot of energy sapping shitty jobs for foreigners, well organized but a hostile place to foreigners. The other EU migrants is even more hostile and racist than Germans. 90% of foreign student leave Germany in the long lawn after their studies and never stay back while in UK the reverse is the case.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by darfay: 10:24pm On May 06, 2020
Seun:
I guess we can enable larger uploads.


And work on Dm's too.we can't be using emails like 1930's. The email kinda doesn't help keep nairaland faceless. Once again develop Dm's for nairaland like Twitter and the rest already has. It would be best you looked into this

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by darfay: 10:28pm On May 06, 2020
Aaronsrod:


So you travel all the way to the home of Mercedes Benz and Daimler cars just to ride upandan on bicycle like a child??

Truly, it has been said before in this thread - Germany is no place for a black man!


This is some funny shit. Lol ......I don't subscribe to your notion tho

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Teaser4(m): 10:43pm On May 06, 2020
this thread no be avenue to compare two countries....most of us come here to enjoy op's gist about Germany, me no give a flying fvck, if anyone build house in the moon... OP please ignore and continue with d gist, I dey feel you.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by claremont(m): 10:49pm On May 06, 2020
Danielhouston:
Nigerians in Germany and abroad in general, I have a question.

Do you feel settled in Germany or where you live? I see Nigerians here who live in a room in shared apartment but they’re building houses and buying cars in Nigeria and sending all their money to Nigeria. They probably would not live in the house they’re building in Nigeria and they don’t intend to return to Nigeria to live. So what’s the purpose?

I’ve always believed in enjoying my money cos life is short and I make myself at home anywhere I live. I don’t see why I’ll be working hard in Germany but live like a pauper and all my money will be going to Nigeria, I’ll be buying cars in Nigeria that I won’t drive. Or a house that I’ll only stay in when I visit once in a year.

I want to hear your thoughts on this.

Excellent and refreshing thread here.

In my opinion, I think most people in the diaspora have a misconception on what the definition of ''home'' is. My ''home'' isn't where I was born and raised (Nigeria), but rather, it is where I can live a good life, raise a family and have peace of mind with the knowledge that every penny of tax I pay is being used for what I pay it for. Nigeria is where I was born and raised, the UK is my adopted ''home'' and where I would be buried.

A ''home'' shouldn't necessarily be the country of your birth, it should be the place where you and your family are currently comfortable and living a good life. We live in a global village. I'm Nigerian by birth, British by passport, Kenyan by marriage.

On a side note, this thread shouldn't be moved to front page. It will get invaded by dodgy characters from politics section etc. grin

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by CodeTemplar: 10:51pm On May 06, 2020
Seun:
what's the size of the image you are trying to upload?
May be you should consider an algorithm that forces file size down if the file is still uncompressed.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by odinga1of: 10:54pm On May 06, 2020
willy2000:


If you enable larger uploads. Hmm, I don't even know how you are hosting this site? But you will also have to consider storage, which is not cheap.
Why not have an algorithm implemented at your backend that resizes the picture to a specific size without degrading the image, and then the frontend can fetch the final result. And the pictures should not be aligned one after the other, it makes it unusable for mobile users, you can create a folder type of handler to hold all pictures and users can decide to click on it to view or ignore. This shouldn't be so hard for you na Oga Seun.

Secondly, the security guarding how to post is crap. if you fix this, it will help reduce the scam/spammers on your site.
How do you solve this issue? Assign a minimum number of characters to be accepted, it should not be less than 100, this engages your uses to write good content and not just gibberish or posting memes.
Thirdly, you can actually revamp this site and still maintain this same usability.

Finally, please, do no take this thread to the front page. ABEG!!


I have been residing since. Kudos to OP and some intelligent folks.


This yours questions and suggestions to Seun is the reason I love Nairaland.

Educated and Smart and people full here.

Cc: Seun : bros try and update this website. We are not in 2005 again. People respect u and knows what u can do.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by CodeTemplar: 10:55pm On May 06, 2020
claremont:


Excellent and refreshing thread here.

In my opinion, I think most people in the diaspora have a misconception on what the definition of ''home'' is. My ''home'' isn't where I was born and raised (Nigeria), but rather, it is where I can live a good life, raise a family and have peace of mind with the knowledge that every penny of tax I pay is being used for what I pay it for. Nigeria is where I was born and raised, the UK is my adopted ''home'' and where I would be buried.

A ''home'' shouldn't necessarily be the country of your birth, it should be the place where you and your family are currently comfortable and living a good life. We live in a global village. I'm Nigerian by birth, British by passport, Kenyan by marriage.

On a side note, this thread shouldn't be moved to front page. It will get invaded by dodgy characters from politics section etc. grin

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 10:56pm On May 06, 2020
@seun please work on your dm...it way too old.
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by rs172(m): 11:03pm On May 06, 2020
Odingo1:

I have lived in Germany now for 6 years now,came for masters,finished and stayed, Germany is not home and not where a migrant should call a home. As a black man in Germany there is a chain they place on the leg already that even the children they born here in Germany cannot be able to achieve an enviable height due to the fact that the child will be pulled down before he or she reach a university level except if the child is extra ordinarily brilliant.

Then I have built a duplex in my village and trying another one for renting. I live in a shared apartment to achieve all this. Germany or Abroad is not anyone home. Even if you have resident permit or citizenship in Germany or any Europe, one day you will be remainded that you are a foreigner just as they did to Ozil the footballer.Ozil have return back his citizenship and went back to turkey with his family. The reason why Nigerians and other Africans is holding tight in Germany despite been subjugated as nonentities is because Nigeria is a shithole country of no hope. So a Nigeria Lady will prefer to waste all her life in Germany as single mom collecting monthly stipend than to go home while the men counterpart will be rooming about looking for white lady to pregnant.

No matter how you try, as a black man you are not accepted in Germany. I am yet to see a black police man or woman in Germany.

So investing back home is good if you want to return home in the future while your children remain in Germany and be visiting home ones in a while. It is not good for a person to migrate and forget his root back home. To me as an Igbo man it is a taboo and sacrilege for one to dumb his root and continue his generation in a foreign land. Which mean after the father and mother die the children will continue to live in that country like black Americans in America.That is an abomination of highest order.

Germany as a country is rich, lot of energy sapping shitty jobs for foreigners, well organized but a hostile place to foreigners. The other EU migrants is even more hostile and racist than Germans. 90% of foreign student leave Germany in the long lawn after their studies and never stay back while in UK the reverse is the case.




So why go to Germany at the first place, why can't you stay back in Nigeria and build the mansion, you see ehn we humans are terrible in one way, now staying in Germany is now abomination because of racism..
At the end, we are just stranger on this earth, the day we die there is nothing like German passport or Nigerian passport again.

We only live once, make the best out of it and stop the hate..

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Odingo1: 11:07pm On May 06, 2020
rs172:





So why go to Germany at the first place, why can't you stay back in Nigeria and build the mansion, you see ehn we humans are terrible in one way, now staying in Germany is now abomination because of racism..
At the end, we are just stranger on this earth, the day we die there is nothing like German passport or Nigerian passport again.

We only live once, make the best out of it and stop the hate..

You are misunderstanding it.

First I went to Germany to better my life since Nigeria is not working but that is not an excuse for me to dump my root and continue my generation in Germany, that is what I refer to as an abomination.

When one die there is something like Nigeria passport because God will ask you of that. Why did God return the children of Israel to the promise land.No matter what there is no place like home. Anytime I enter Nigeria I feel entitled and I hate no one.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Amethyst101(m): 11:14pm On May 06, 2020
@Danielhouston, weldone once again. I've been following this thread right from the first page and I've learnt more a lot more about Deutschlaand.

I don't mean to derail this thread with this post, but I would like to share a post I found while rummaging through past German Student Visa threads here on nairaland. I think it will be helpful for some people, though you've chimed in on most of those issues here.

The post is by @Immafrank and I think the moniker is still active

Oct 16, 2019
SOME USEFUL TIPS
If you are having doubts about maybe the embassy saw/read your sent e-mails or not in instances like- sending of confirmation of BA, making inquiries concerning visa delay or other inquiries at alien offices of your intended cities. You can use google mailtrack to track your e-mails (Gmail users only), whenever the embassy or any individual read your emails, it will show a double tick and number of times your email was read and a single tick if it has not been read (you get notification for this, you can disable if you want to).

http://help.mailtrack.io/customer/en/portal/articles/1385608-installing-mailtrack

That is the link to setup google mail track on PC. Note that you have to install google chrome on PC and send the email (gmail) from google chrome but you can check with mobile after sending if it has been read. There are also android mobile set up which i am not very conversant with but for iPhone users, simply download Track - Email Tracking (the app icon is a green capital T ), install and follow up instructions. you can send messages to your friends to test it.

Futhermore, for people coming this winter, Buy Jeans in 9ja, there are some good stores in 9ja with good thick jeans, One low quality jean is 29 euros up here, except you are OBO. Budget about 50-100 euros for good and warm winter jacket, I believe the one you are bringing here is just for warm up, when real cold sets in, Omo nobody will tell you to buy correct one lol, gloves and money for winter shoes esp for places that snows heavily, it doesn't really snow in Berlin compared to Munchen. Get ready to buy thick Duvet. Sometimes you have to close eyes and buy good stuffs, and stop converting to naira when you wanna buy stuffs, it helps sometimes. If you are coming around November to December, you have to get some warm wears from 9ja, else you will perish in cold from the airport. Get 2 mouth extension, change your laptop cable to 2 mouth (not the powerpack, you know what i mean), bring bed spread and curtain, clipper, flashdrive, bring flipflops, liquids are not allowed on the plane but some people travelled with palm oil (make sure to tie it very well and wrap it), if you are using BA, come wit about 400-500 before you unblock, if you are using SL, budget about 2k for the first 4 months depending on the city and expenses, remember you start spending euros from the airport. Don't bring unnecessary stuffs like rice, spag, salt, sugar. Bring garri and noodles and condiments like maggi and curry.

That temporary warms/hoodie from 9ja is very important. I could remember the day I landed at the airport, before coming out of the plane, This German girl i was talking to from the connecting flight started to bring out her winter jacket, I didn’t know whatsup up then, coming out of the plane, see this mad cold breeze that blew, immediately I started shaking because I was juss wearing a top and a soft sweater, big boy hand drop ASAP, as I was breathing, it was like I was smoking due to the smoke-like air coming from my mouth (I don’t know how else to define, nobody told me the cold was like this). Then the bus that will take us to immigration came, all the irons in the bus was damn cold, I was seriously shaking, I was looking like a rain-beaten cat, this German girl offered me her jacket, unfortunately it was small and feminine. We got our loads, it was a little bit warm inside immigration, after we got out, immediately I open my big box, I brought out two reinforcements (still not enough but okay). Luckily for me, the girl’s mom came dropped me off at the main train station which was about 20 minutes drive from the airport, that saved me some stress. it is always the best when you have somebody to meet you at the airport(like a friend or family in the city you are heading to if it has an international airport). If you have money, there are drops at the airport

For Travels and movement in DE: Download the DB Navigator for general travels (Train, buses, Tram, etc.) and if you are coming to Berlin, download the BVG Farhinfo app (its shows you the fastest route and how to navigate easily) along with the DB navigator. I will say google maps is mostly important for directions on short distances and to know durations of long and short distance travels as well. It is important to have mobile internet on your phone if you are new to a place and going out. There is also FlixBus, it is like a subsidized bus travels mainly from cities to cities and to some EU countries.

For residence permit- for cities where you have to wait about 1 month before you get your card, and that is after 1-2 months before you get appointment in some cases, and you know you need work to survive, you can ask your RP officer on the day of your appointment to give you a temporary work permit, it is like an A4 paper with all your details including passport photo and it will be stamped, the paper will state that you had applied for a RP and the type of permit you will get including the number of days you can work which is 120 full day or 240 half days in a year. First thing first is to get an accommodation which is a prerequisite for city registration and issuance of a RP.

For health insurance, its a 2 way thing, the school will say public health insurance if you are not up to 30 years and private if you are more than 30, my guys not up to 30 years are using Mawista 33 euros monthly and it was accepted. Don't know how they did that but you can make inquiry from your school. TK and AOK is around 107 euros monthly. But public is better than private, if you fall off a bicycle or get hit by a car or have a serious ailment, the public like AOK pays everything but if you are using private, you will pay yourself at first and the private will reimburse some back depending on your insurance subscription with them which you must provide proofs for and trust me, and trust me these treatments are expensive.

And lastly, learn the language while you can, in big cities like Frankfurt, Munchen, Berlin, you might not really need it but in small cities, man you mostly need it to get a job at least A2 level. In all, you need the language to be open to more opportunities.
if you will be staying in Bremen, Stuttgart, Rastatt or areas closer there or if you have friends living there that you can stay with, you can always apply for vacation job at Daimler Mercedes-Benz, for working students, they pay 15 euros per hour and you get to work 35-39 hours weekly depending on your contract (Do the Math) and you cant combine it with school work, thats why its called vacation jobs.
Here is the website for Daimler Mercedes-Benz: https://www.daimler.com/career/job-search/
from position type, click vacation job.
For Amazon Job: Amazon.force.com
For general job search: de.indeed.com
For buying of used stuffs like gadgets, and also job search in your area: https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de
Use google chrome browser for opening these sites when you get here for auto translations to English.
Also, make sure to always check weather reports before going out because the weather is always funny. Android users download The Weather Channel app from play store, it is auto installed on iPhone.

When you get in, open N26 bank, one of the best online banks here. Activities are online, no bank branches, Fast and easy, Banking app is in English, its is also free including free ATM cards
Downloading of movies, and some games w/ copyright are illegal here, a German bro was fined 13,000 euros for movies download... imagine they fine you that one, you don die be that!!

ALL THE BEST GUYS!!

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Amethyst101(m): 11:18pm On May 06, 2020
He continued here:


IN ADDITION TO MY PREVIOUS POST

Information is Vital here and so is everywhere. What you need/looking for is always somewhere, you just need to connect with the right person/use the right keyword for searching.

Some of our 9ja brothers here tend to hide information from their fellow 9jas even though it doesn't stop them from achieving their aim. So i tend to roll with more white people, in most cases, if you don't talk to them, they won't talk to you, so i always shoot first. A Brazilian friend of mine once sent me a job link when i told her i was looking for a part time job, it was a job related to my field and this company was looking for working students to work with some kinda data, no German needed. You will never find the job using google except you visit their website. Unfortunately, i didn't get the job but i was glad i applied as the interview taught me some new lessons on an international level. So don't feel too proud to ask for help/information, you never know the kind of information that fellow is holding.

AFTER RESUMPTION for the first semester and registration of courses, you might wanna check the next semester module, talk to students that did the courses in the previous semester to know how far, This is important so you wont go and larimo one professor Albert Einstein especially when the course is not really related to your Bachelor degree. A German student once told me not to choose a particular professor for a course project supervisor, i asked other fellows and they said the same.

If you have a knack for programming and you are proficient in Python, Java and JavaScript, you don't know what God has done for you.

Also, if you studied something related to Media in Nigeria like Mass Comm, you might wanna check Masters in Media and Communication Science in TU Ilmenau, the application is online (no need to send hard copy docs) and the admission is valid for 2 years but you get to pay application processing fees of 25 euros. For online application for Geoscience courses, you might wanna check University of Bremen. There is masters in Geodetic Engineering at University of Bonn, the program offers 3 specializations, but i think its only for winter application but the application is online.

Lastly, i have said this before and i will say it again, new applicants applying to uni assist (Masters), when sending your documents, look for courses in TU Berlin and University of Potsdam and apply there too, both universities are under uni assist but you don't need to pay processing fees as both universities have already covered the cost for their master programs.
If you are going to state of Brandenburg particularly University of Potsdam, try and get your Residence permit in Berlin, you get 2 to 3 years, although accommodation might be a problem in Berlin. In Potsdam, you only get 1 year RP, for the second year, they might tell to fund another 9k euros to renew your RP. So make your research well. Your school ID card (either TU Berlin or Uni Potsdam) gives you free transportation that covers for Berlin-Brandenburg including all Trains and local buses., so no issue with Transportation cost.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 11:20pm On May 06, 2020
A lot of people seem to expect so much from a country that is not theirs. Yes, Germany is not molded for black people and foreigners in general to prosper. We’ve said that endlessly. Germany is not Hollywood either where dreams come true. Not even for German citizens.

The Germans are living comfortably, working, renting a flat, paying bills, going on vacations, getting married and growing old. They’re not striving to be Bill Gates or Oprah. Foreigners also get that comfortability, except that it comes at a higher price and with a cross to carry. If you want to achieve more, find somewhere that can give you more.

Let’s leave racism and history now. Germany offers asylum to people, gives them money from the job center for rent, transportation, food, pays their health insurance and money for pleasure. They also get to enroll in a language school free of charge, which the German government pays for to help them integrate. They can also take up training or education at the government’s expense, get a job, after 6 years they can apply for a German passport.

Germany offers free education to foreigners without taking their money, even the blocked account money is for you. You can get a German degree which is world class, for free and migrate to another country to work. They won’t stop you. Yet you’re cursing them.

Talk about menial jobs, somebody has to do it. It’s the same in USA with Mexicans and other foreigners doing the jobs Americans won’t do. People from EU countries also do menial jobs in Germany. So it’s not only black people. Sure, there is racism attached to it but it’s also a sacrifice in a country that is not ours.

I have done 4 surgeries which was covered by health insurance, if I was in Nigeria I would have posted my picture on Facebook for Nigerians to donate money so I won’t die. There are also foreigners here getting regular treatment like people living with HIV, those with cancer and other diseases. Which they would suffer to get in Nigeria.

During Coronavirus crisis, Germany offered money to everyone who lost their job or business, through the job center. They gave €5000 to artists, both Germans and immigrants, gave out free food and provided housing to those in need. Meanwhile, Nigerian finance house is burning down and Nigerians were on lockdown without food for 2 weeks.

Germany is safer than Nigeria. I was arrested last year when I visited Nigeria because police said I looked like a yahoo boy. They almost killed me for nothing. In Germany, I can wear whatever I want and do whatever hair I want, nobody will care. In case of emergency, police is a phone call away, so is ambulance.

If you get a German residence permit, whether as a student or refugee, you can travel around other Schengen countries as you like, without visa. You can get a 2 year US visa in 3 days without stress, they send it to your house. 6 month UK visa in one or two weeks. Students also enjoy free transportation and other benefits.

Racism is everywhere. It is worse in the US, blacks in the UK also suffer from it. See what they did to us in China, they are selling us in Arab countries, they also hate us in Latin America. You are black and no matter where you go, you will NEVER be seen as equal. Stop acting like Germany is the most racist country on earth and they’re holding your breakthrough.

What Germany lacks is representation. Unlike USA and UK, Germany never had a strong black community. The Turkish people are to Germany what blacks are to USA (minus slavery). That’s why there are Turkish police officers, doctors, other jobs but almost no blacks. There is no representation of black people in Germany. Plus, we are not many over here compared to UK or USA.

Before a company offers a job, they have to offer it to a German, then an EU citizen, then an immigrant. Is it fair? No. But it’s their country. Maybe if Nigeria did the same, we won’t have many Nigerians being gatemen and security guards for white people in Lagos.

So please, stop whining. You can complain about racism and discrimination, I support that, but don’t come here demonizing Germany like it is hell fire. If you hated it so much, why don’t you leave?

Stop discouraging people who want to come here and change their lives, from coming. We need more black people here. That’s how we create representation. Since more black Americans have been coming here, things have been changing because important topics are now being discussed to promote inclusion.

Bye.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Odingo1: 11:22pm On May 06, 2020
claremont:


Excellent and refreshing thread here.

In my opinion, I think most people in the diaspora have a misconception on what the definition of ''home'' is. My ''home'' isn't where I was born and raised (Nigeria), but rather, it is where I can live a good life, raise a family and have peace of mind with the knowledge that every penny of tax I pay is being used for what I pay it for. Nigeria is where I was born and raised, the UK is my adopted ''home'' and where I would be buried.

A ''home'' shouldn't necessarily be the country of your birth, it should be the place where you and your family are currently comfortable and living a good life. We live in a global village. I'm Nigerian by birth, British by passport, Kenyan by marriage.

On a side note, this thread shouldn't be moved to front page. It will get invaded by dodgy characters from politics section etc. grin

I strongly disagree with you on this, a home is where you are born which is connected to the tribe in which you are born into.(Your father’s root). If you travel abroad and make money, it is your duty to bring the money home to develop your root. A foreign land no matter how peaceful or beautiful it may be cannot replace ones fathers homeland. Why is it that the tribe you went to their country cannot leave their place and come and learn your own language and live in your own original country and abandon his own.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Odingo1: 11:37pm On May 06, 2020
Danielhouston:
A lot of people seem to expect so much from a country that is not theirs. Yes, Germany is not molded for black people and foreigners in general to prosper. We’ve said that endlessly. Germany is not Hollywood either where dreams come true. Not even for German citizens.

The Germans are living comfortably, working, renting a flat, paying bills, going on vacations, getting married and growing old. They’re not striving to be Bill Gates or Oprah. Foreigners also get that comfortability, except that it comes at a higher price and with a cross to carry. If you want to achieve more, find somewhere that can give you more.

Let’s leave racism and history now. Germany offers asylum to people, gives them money from the job center for rent, transportation, food, pays their health insurance and money for pleasure. They also get to enroll in a language school free of charge, which the German government pays for to help them integrate. They can also take up training or education at the government’s expense, get a job, after 6 years they can apply for a German passport.

Germany offers free education to foreigners without taking their money, even the blocked account money is for you. You can get a German degree which is world class, for free and migrate to another country to work. They won’t stop you. Yet you’re cursing them.

Talk about menial jobs, somebody has to do it. It’s the same in USA with Mexicans and other foreigners doing the jobs Americans won’t do. People from EU countries also do menial jobs in Germany. So it’s not only black people. Sure, there is racism attached to it but it’s also a sacrifice in a country that is not ours.

I have done 4 surgeries which was covered by health insurance, if I was in Nigeria I would have posted my picture on Facebook for Nigerians to donate money so I won’t die. There are also foreigners here getting regular treatment like people living with HIV, those with cancer and other diseases. Which they would suffer to get in Nigeria.

During Coronavirus crisis, Germany offered money to everyone who lost their job or business, through the job center. They gave €5000 to artists, both Germans and immigrants, gave out free food and provided housing to those in need. Meanwhile, Nigerian finance house is burning down and Nigerians were on lockdown without food for 2 weeks.

Germany is safer than Nigeria. I was arrested last year when I visited Nigeria because police said I looked like a yahoo boy. They almost killed me for nothing. In Germany, I can wear whatever I want and do whatever hair I want, nobody will care. In case of emergency, police is a phone call away, so is ambulance.

If you get a German residence permit, whether as a student or refugee, you can travel around other Schengen countries as you like, without visa. You can get a 2 year US visa in 3 days without stress, they send it to your house. 6 month UK visa in one or two weeks. Students also enjoy free transportation and other benefits.

Racism is everywhere. It is worse in the US, blacks in the UK also suffer from it. See what they did to us in China, they are selling us in Arab countries, they also hate us in Latin America. You are black and no matter where you go, you will NEVER be seen as equal. Stop acting like Germany is the most racist country on earth and they’re holding your breakthrough.

What Germany lacks is representation. Unlike USA and UK, Germany never had a strong black community. The Turkish people are to Germany what blacks are to USA. That’s why there are Turkish police officers, doctors, other jobs but almost no blacks. There is no representation of black people in Germany. Plus, we are not many over here compared to UK or USA.

Before a company offers a job, they have to offer it to a German, then an EU citizen, then an immigrant. Is it fair? No. But it’s their country. Maybe if Nigeria did the same, we won’t have many Nigerians being gatemen and security guards for white people in Lagos.

So please, stop whining. You can complain about racism and discrimination, I support that, but don’t come here demonizing Germany like it is hell fire. If you hated it so much, why don’t you leave?

Stop discouraging people who want to come here and change their lives, from coming. We need more black people here. That’s how we create representation. Since more black Americans have been coming here, things have been changing because important topics are now being discussed to promote inclusion.

Bye.
All this thing you write now is the why people are coming to Europe and me also.

You are the one asking the importance of investing back home like building houses and we are reminding you the reason why and the reality on ground why people take their money home.

If Germany is not doing all this things you mention who will spend money or die in the sea trying to enter Europe to Germany. Who is dying to enter Iraq or Afghanistan.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 11:40pm On May 06, 2020
Odingo1:

All this thing you write now is reason why people are coming to Europe and me also.

You are the one asking the importance of investing back home like building houses and we are reminding you the reason why.

If Germany is not doing all this things you mention who will spend money or die in the sea trying to enter Europe to Germany. Who is going dying to go to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Odingo1 pls go back to wherever you came from. You’re derailing this thread by trying to start arguments and cause drama.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Savagethe21st(m): 12:00am On May 07, 2020
Danielhouston:
A lot of people seem to expect so much from a country that is not theirs. Yes, Germany is not molded for black people and foreigners in general to prosper. We’ve said that endlessly. Germany is not Hollywood either where dreams come true. Not even for German citizens.

The Germans are living comfortably, working, renting a flat, paying bills, going on vacations, getting married and growing old. They’re not striving to be Bill Gates or Oprah. Foreigners also get that comfortability, except that it comes at a higher price and with a cross to carry. If you want to achieve more, find somewhere that can give you more.

Let’s leave racism and history now. Germany offers asylum to people, gives them money from the job center for rent, transportation, food, pays their health insurance and money for pleasure. They also get to enroll in a language school free of charge, which the German government pays for to help them integrate. They can also take up training or education at the government’s expense, get a job, after 6 years they can apply for a German passport.

Germany offers free education to foreigners without taking their money, even the blocked account money is for you. You can get a German degree which is world class, for free and migrate to another country to work. They won’t stop you. Yet you’re cursing them.

Talk about menial jobs, somebody has to do it. It’s the same in USA with Mexicans and other foreigners doing the jobs Americans won’t do. People from EU countries also do menial jobs in Germany. So it’s not only black people. Sure, there is racism attached to it but it’s also a sacrifice in a country that is not ours.

I have done 4 surgeries which was covered by health insurance, if I was in Nigeria I would have posted my picture on Facebook for Nigerians to donate money so I won’t die. There are also foreigners here getting regular treatment like people living with HIV, those with cancer and other diseases. Which they would suffer to get in Nigeria.

During Coronavirus crisis, Germany offered money to everyone who lost their job or business, through the job center. They gave €5000 to artists, both Germans and immigrants, gave out free food and provided housing to those in need. Meanwhile, Nigerian finance house is burning down and Nigerians were on lockdown without food for 2 weeks.

Germany is safer than Nigeria. I was arrested last year when I visited Nigeria because police said I looked like a yahoo boy. They almost killed me for nothing. In Germany, I can wear whatever I want and do whatever hair I want, nobody will care. In case of emergency, police is a phone call away, so is ambulance.

If you get a German residence permit, whether as a student or refugee, you can travel around other Schengen countries as you like, without visa. You can get a 2 year US visa in 3 days without stress, they send it to your house. 6 month UK visa in one or two weeks. Students also enjoy free transportation and other benefits.

Racism is everywhere. It is worse in the US, blacks in the UK also suffer from it. See what they did to us in China, they are selling us in Arab countries, they also hate us in Latin America. You are black and no matter where you go, you will NEVER be seen as equal. Stop acting like Germany is the most racist country on earth and they’re holding your breakthrough.

What Germany lacks is representation. Unlike USA and UK, Germany never had a strong black community. The Turkish people are to Germany what blacks are to USA (minus slavery). That’s why there are Turkish police officers, doctors, other jobs but almost no blacks. There is no representation of black people in Germany. Plus, we are not many over here compared to UK or USA.

Before a company offers a job, they have to offer it to a German, then an EU citizen, then an immigrant. Is it fair? No. But it’s their country. Maybe if Nigeria did the same, we won’t have many Nigerians being gatemen and security guards for white people in Lagos.

So please, stop whining. You can complain about racism and discrimination, I support that, but don’t come here demonizing Germany like it is hell fire. If you hated it so much, why don’t you leave?

Stop discouraging people who want to come here and change their lives, from coming. We need more black people here. That’s how we create representation. Since more black Americans have been coming here, things have been changing because important topics are now being discussed to promote inclusion.

Bye.
Daniel you said nothing but the undiluted truth. All it will take is time for black community to grow and things to change in germany concerning blacks. See how blacks esp Nigerians and jamaicans are almost dominating England. I have this feeling that this computer era will change the perception the whites have about blacks especially those in areas that haven't come across us bfore. And as for the hollywood dream/lifestyle do u think it is only probable in usa or is it realistic ib other European countries besides Germany? Because its in the black mans dna to strive for the best and live a life of show off not just a comfortable mundane life like in germany.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Acuna91: 12:19am On May 07, 2020
Please ooo you people should allow us enjoy this thread in peace. Why so many Argument. Pls Daniel don't be discouraged with what they are saying carry. I'm very much interested in coming to Germany. How is life Dortmund, Bochum and munster? That is where I applied for admission.
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Acuna91: 12:20am On May 07, 2020
Danielhouston:


Odingo1 pls go back to wherever you came from. You’re derailing this thread by trying to start arguments and cause drama.
Please ooo you people should allow us enjoy this thread in peace. Why so many Argument. Pls Daniel don't be discouraged with what they are saying carry. I'm very much interested in coming to Germany. How is life Dortmund, Bochum and munster? That is where I applied for admission

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 12:50am On May 07, 2020
It’s exciting to see so much life in Berlin! Street singers and people walking in groups as friends I’m sure. Can never ever happen in Cold rich lonely workaholic grumpy uptight Munich! People only come here to make quick money and leave.


all Danielhouston has said is the truth! I have never even been to an African shop and it will take the grace of satan to take me there. I barely talk with the Nigerians in my school. The conversation is always Shittu. They talk about irrelevant stupid stuffs. The conversation is always different with the white community, and even their style of hanging out or fun activities. Cycling, puzzles, charade, coffee, exercise.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Drenimarcus(m): 1:07am On May 07, 2020
We all have different perspectives to this “home” thing. For me, I don’t think i can ever be comfortable in this country until I retire back home in 25/30 years. Reading about what happened to ahmaud is so disastrous. Hope everyone is staying safe. Jah bless.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by OlowuJohn: 1:27am On May 07, 2020
Odingo1:

I have lived in Germany now for 6 years now,came for masters,finished and stayed, Germany is not home and not where a migrant should call a home. As a black man in Germany there is a chain they place on the leg already that even the children they born here in Germany cannot be able to achieve an enviable height due to the fact that the child will be pulled down before he or she reach a university level except if the child is extra ordinarily brilliant.

Then I have built a duplex in my village and trying another one for renting. I live in a shared apartment to achieve all this. Germany or Abroad is not anyone home. Even if you have resident permit or citizenship in Germany or any Europe, one day you will be remainded that you are a foreigner just as they did to Ozil the footballer.Ozil have return back his citizenship and went back to turkey with his family. The reason why Nigerians and other Africans is holding tight in Germany despite been subjugated as nonentities is because Nigeria is a shithole country of no hope. So a Nigeria Lady will prefer to waste all her life in Germany as single mom collecting monthly stipend than to go home while the men counterpart will be rooming about looking for white lady to pregnant.

No matter how you try, as a black man you are not accepted in Germany. I am yet to see a black police man or woman in Germany.

So investing back home is good if you want to return home in the future while your children remain in Germany and be visiting home ones in a while. It is not good for a person to migrate and forget his root back home. To me as an Igbo man it is a taboo and sacrilege for one to dumb his root and continue his generation in a foreign land. Which mean after the father and mother die the children will continue to live in that country like black Americans in America.That is an abomination of highest order.

Germany as a country is rich, lot of energy sapping shitty jobs for foreigners, well organized but a hostile place to foreigners. The other EU migrants is even more hostile and racist than Germans. 90% of foreign student leave Germany in the long lawn after their studies and never stay back while in UK the reverse is the case.

I don't see the basics of these accusation to the German state that allowed you to work and make earnings for you to live. Our home is Nigeria but see what it has turned to, is a place that do not encourage growth except you steal (tagged as smartness).

Our objective for travelling out is to get educated and a living standard, you can not make that place your home except the inhabitants designed it so, let's strive to go to Germany, get education - which is cheap compared to other western countries; and build our investment in Nigeria.

Lets' appreciate the German state for giving us these opportunities because our land has not giving us any, whatever insult we receive, lets take it with joy and pain, knowing that our Fathers has failed us.

If we continue to look at racism and break our mental strength, we will fail our children.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by noobs123: 1:41am On May 07, 2020
claremont:


Excellent and refreshing thread here.

In my opinion, I think most people in the diaspora have a misconception on what the definition of ''home'' is. My ''home'' isn't where I was born and raised (Nigeria), but rather, it is where I can live a good life, raise a family and have peace of mind with the knowledge that every penny of tax I pay is being used for what I pay it for. Nigeria is where I was born and raised, the UK is my adopted ''home'' and where I would be buried.

A ''home'' shouldn't necessarily be the country of your birth, it should be the place where you and your family are currently comfortable and living a good life. We live in a global village. I'm Nigerian by birth, British by passport, Kenyan by marriage.

On a side note, this thread shouldn't be moved to front page. It will get invaded by dodgy characters from politics section etc. grin

You said nothing but the truth. No matter the passport, study permit and permanent resident, deep down, you are still a foreigner in another man’s country. Each time I enter Naija I feel the atmosphere differently like a real home. Yes its dirty, no light, bad roads, no security but always remind me of my root and where I come from.

Those Akata in America are still pained for not knowing their roots, some came all the way down to other African countries tracing their roots.

I curse our leaders for making us living as second class citizen in other countries in the name of greener pastures each time I visit home.

Why would you put all your investments in foreign country, example was the man that violated law ignorantly and got deported. Yes, he got what he deserved but that’s a remainder for us that this isn’t home, anything can happen, law can be changed. Be wise invest home.

As soon as I clock a certain age, I’m moving back home and yes real HOME.
Everyone to his own opinion.

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 4:36am On May 07, 2020
I’m a silent follower and i must commend the op on the wonderful job he’s doing.
I’m sorry if you see this as a derailment but i have to ask please
For we that don’t have funds for block account(I’m from the core North my family will never release funds for me to go to the west cos they still believe Nigeria will get better with prayers)but i can source for little funds on my own do you see chances of someone getting to Germany from Austria because there tuitions are relatively low (i saw schools with $1600/yr) and with so much possibilities of getting tuition wavers
As i said forgive my ignorance I couldn’t locate an austrian thread and I promise never to ask about further information About Austria once I’m able to get a candid answer to this
THANK YOU Hadampson Danielhouston Munichlover

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by jesmond3945: 7:18am On May 07, 2020
Munichlover:
It’s exciting to see so much life in Berlin! Street singers and people walking in groups as friends I’m sure. Can never ever happen in Cold rich lonely workaholic grumpy uptight Munich! People only come here to make quick money and leave.


all Danielhouston has said is the truth! I have never even been to an African shop and it will take the grace of satan to take me there. I barely talk with the Nigerians in my school. The conversation is always Shittu. They talk about irrelevant stupid stuffs. The conversation is always different with the white community, and even their style of hanging out or fun activities. Cycling, puzzles, charade, coffee, exercise.
irrelevant stupid stuff like?

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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by LOSKYXANDER: 8:24am On May 07, 2020
Danielhouston:
Please, people who keep asking if they can get a job after studying in Germany, I have answered the question many times. You cannot keep asking the same question with different professions. The answer is the same. Yes, you can get a job. You have to look for a job. There are uncertainties just like everywhere else. Pls stop naming different professions and asking the same question.
I just stumbled over this now and that explains why my question was snubbed and some idiots started insulting me. IT jobs are the only jobs I'm sure one can get in Germany without speaking German, unless you are lucky to get a job in a big multinational where English is the primary language of communication. It will be very difficult for say a civil engineer to get a job without high proficiency in German language. If you must move to Germany to study and secure a job after school, pay attention to the field you are getting into!! OP knows this already angry

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