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Ojiofor:
Read before you comment.

During the negotiation, Ahmadu Bello insisted that the north should produce the Prime Minister, otherwise they were not ready for independence. In the agreement to end British colonial rule signed at Lancaster House, it was agreed that if any region said it was not ready for independence, the process will be postponed until all regions were willing to go ahead. According to Chief Amaechi, northern leaders took advantage of that agreement. Dr. Azikiwe and top leaders of the NCNC reasoned that having fought and sacrificed so much for political freedom, it was preferable to allow the north produce the first Prime Minister so that independence would be attained as soon as possible.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/the-problem-of-retrogressive-politics-in-nigeria-4/

See your reasoning and excuses you're giving for a fool that sold his birthright.

Yorubasarecurse:
[s][/s]I wish I knew the hole you are residing in Nkpor, i would have fished you out and used you for target pratice.

Stale, use another line.
Your seniors here on nairaland posted worse

this will more hate....ops this thread ain't necessary nw abeg

Area4Area:
Stale, use another line.
Your seniors here on nairaland posted worse

Yyeske which senior? I feel irritated that you are parading yourself as an igbo thereby bringing so much embarrassment to us. You need to embrace your yoruba origin. Until then you will continue to remain a coward.

deji17:
So you agree that Zik handed over power to Balewa instead of forming alliance with Awo? Yes or No answer will suffice.

Who has time to respond to the trash written by the misguided Yoruba element.

He claimed that Zik and NCNC came first because according to him they had the highest number of popular votes.

He must be thinking his readers are half-wits...Were we supposed to consider the popular votes or the parliamentary seats which matter in the real scheme of things?

A person with half a brain would have dwelt on why the NPC had more legislative seats while garnering less popular votes...

He chose not to face the existential issues but went to town with a subjective narrative that became stillbirth when viewed through logical prisms...

You think we are still in the past when you exploited your dominance of mainstream media to promote slanted and largely mendacious narratives?

We are in the era of the internet...we shall always meet you head on to refute your slew of crass verbiage...

mrvitalis:
The problem yorubas have is you hurt someone and you expect them to forget and move one with you as if nothing happened but you keep remembering the bad things you think they did to you ....like how u guys expect south south to forget about 2015 and vote for you in 2023 ....no body is a fool

U really expected zik to form an alliance with awolowo that has displayed open hatred for him for no just reason for years ...the man that scaled alafin of Oyo because he preferred zik leadership style

Honestly u people must thing the rest Nigerians are fools that u can manipulate

These is the same reason Igbo have chosen to work with north even tho we hate it .....

North have only worked with yorubas only when igbos reject their offer ....you Yorubas are never anyone's first choice ...no body trust you guys


So if you were zik u would from alliance with awolowo ??

so why crying now

Topsic70:
One can't really blame him for taking dt action because d average Yoruba is d LEAST tribal ppl in Nigeria. He sees u 4 who u r b4 he considers ur tribe. He couldn't have known dt zik (and by extension, d igbos) are like dt.

And dt can be said of present day yorubas as well. Post 2011 events have been opening d eyes of d hitherto liberal yorubas to reality tho.

Stop sounding like a nitwit.

Herbert Macaulay was the Chairman of NCNC while Zik was the Secretary-General....

In any case, Zik was the most influential politician in Nigeria during the period in question.

Handing over power to someone else would have spelled the end of the party as a national force...

Area4Area:
See your reasoning and excuses you're giving for a fool that sold his birthright.

Your lies and propaganda has been bursted.Just like you have sold your present and future to an illiterate and invisible herdsman in Aso Rock since 2015.

knowledgeable:
I swear, this write up has no relevance or value to our present day situation period. This kid of thinking is the prime reason why the Yorubas have remained the brown roof republic.

Can you imagine, if the Singaporeans dwell on writing ancient history about Malaysia, where will they be today?.

The Koreans fought a civil war in the late 50s, got divided between North & South, but there is no single brown roof today in that modern country. I can go on and on with other examples.

Yoruba, please leave ancient history & seek to transform yourself into a modern society through any kind of restructuring away from the past or seek total freedom through Your own Oduduwa and encourage others around you who are backward and untransforming to seek the same.

"Same Tory from generation to generation".

At least, if you don't know where you are going to, you should be able to remember where you are coming from. The mistake of today can change the future of hundred years to come.

Area4Area:
Kip kwayet, the Igbos know nothing about national politics, their understanding of politics is based on emotions and hate and that's the reason they've been losing back to back, tell me which region trust the Igbos to lead the country? Not even your adopted SS you've been crying over trusts the Igbos

One question I have for you:

If, by the quirk of fate and history, an Igboman emerges as the president in 2023, will you be honourable enough to banish yourself out of Nigeria?

It is a grievous tragedy that people that claim to have some degree of education would be sounding like stark illiterates.

The Igbos are one of the major peoples of Nigeria...They are condemned to produce a president sooner than later...It is only natural.

Ordinary Nnamdi Kanu is giving the Nigerian system sleepless nights....

Just imagine what will happen when over 40 million Igbos elected to push the self-determination agenda should the marginalisation, injustice and inequity lingers beyond the immediate future...

Everything is not about noisemaking and mindless tribalism...

Most of you Yoruba guys are blinded by envy and hate. You appear to think that Nigeria will end in 2023...You are putting all your eggs in one basket carried by Buhari at over 75 years of age................You discountenance the truism that politics can throw up surprises.

It is even so pathetic...Even the North are warming up to the inevitability of an Igbo president but you guys are living in a destructive denial.

Which sensible person can wrap their heads around the possibility that the Igbos continue being in Nigeria say in the next ten years without having a chance at the presidency?

The Igbos went to way over 50 years ago....Do you think they are afraid to go to the extremes these days where Nigeria has so many enemies waiting for civil unrest to erupt to finish her off as a force in Africa?

Just try and do some thinking...

maestroferddi:
Who has time to respond to the trash written by the misguided Yoruba element.

He claimed that Zik and NCNC came first because according to him they had the highest number of popular votes.

He must be thinking his readers are half-wits...Were we supposed to consider the popular votes or the parliamentary seats which matter in the real scheme of things?

A person with half a brain would have dwelt on why the NPC had more legislative seats while garnering less popular votes...

He chose not to face the existential issues but went to town with a subjective narrative that became stillbirth when viewed through logical prisms...

You think we are still in the past when you exploited your dominance of mainstream media to promote slanted and largely mendacious narratives?

We are in the era of the internet...we shall always meet you head on to refute your slew of crass verbiage...

A yes or no answer could have sufficed. Balewa nor Zik or Awo could not form Govt. It requires two of them to do it. Zik chose to form alliance with NPC instead of Awo. That is a fact.

deji17:
A yes or no answer could have sufficed. Balewa nor Zik or Awo could not form Govt. It requires two of them to do it. Zik chose to form alliance with NPC instead of Awo. That is a fact.

You are not smart...

While not tell us why Awo refuse to work with Zik to form a government since Zik had the upper hand via having more seats.

How sensible does it sound that Zik chose to take a relatively inferior status with NPC while he could have been the senior partner with AG?

We are not as dumb as Yoruba mindless propaganda and revisionism are making us to look...

maestroferddi:
You are not smart...

While not tell us why Awo refuse to work with Zik to form a government since Zik had the upper hand via having more seats.

How sensible does it sound that Zik chose to take a relatively inferior status with NPC while he could have been the senior partner with AG?

We are not as dumb as Yoruba mindless propaganda and revisionism are making us to look...

This name calling and abuses will get you no where.
Yes, how come Zik chose to form alliance with NPC ? Was it greed ? Did he realise later that the position he was offered in the alliance with NPC is powerless?

deji17:
This name calling and abuses will get you no where.
Yes, how come Zik chose to form alliance with NPC ? Was it greed ? Did he realise later that the position he was offered in the alliance with NPC is powerless?

You should answer the first question:

Why was Awo not humble enough to allow Zik to head the national government after Zik outperformed him?

You point one finger, four others are pointing at you...

maestroferddi:
You should answer the first question:

Why was Awo not humble enough to allow Zik to head the national government after Zik outperformed him?

You point one finger, four others are pointing at you...

Awo did. He offered to become Deputy Prime Minister or Finance Minister under Zik. Do you have any record to the contrary? Zik prefered alliance with NPC.

maestroferddi:
Stop sounding like a nitwit.

Herbert Macaulay was the Chairman of NCNC while Zik was the Secretary-General....

In any case, Zik was the most influential politician in Nigeria during the period in question.

Handing over power to someone else would have spelled the end of the party as a national force...

Nwanne, u can tell dt to ur fellow ipobs. They'll swallow it!

Topsic70:
Nwanne, u can tell dt to ur fellow ipobs. They'll swallow it!

Oremi, at least they will not swallow the load of crap you people are presenting here...

maestroferddi:
Oremi, at least they will not swallow the load of crap you people are presenting here...

Good 4 u and ur ipob imps.
Every mallam to his kettle!

Topsic70:
Good 4 u and ur ipob imps.
Every mallam to his kettle!

You are confused, oga..

maestroferddi:
You are confused, oga..

Nwanne, look in d mirror biko
That moment u check d dico for d definition of "confused":

Topsic70:
Nwanne, look in d mirror biko
That moment u check d dico for d definition of "confused":

Yoruba Muslim....next?

deji17:
This is a new one. So the British puts a Gun on Zik's head for him to form alliance with the North... Bwuhahhaahahaha.
You are doing well. Ooin.

Go and read the history of Congo, Patrice Lumumba and Mobutu Seseko to understand how Europeans political juggernauts manipulated Africans by killing/suppressing the Pan-Africanists and ensuring feebles lead.

Olabestonic001:
Go and read the history of Congo, Patrice Lumumba and Mobutu Seseko to understand how Europeans political juggernauts manipulated Africans by killing/suppressing the Pan-Africanists and ensuring feebles lead.

It is irresponsible to use manipulation as excuse for ones failure. If you accept a position and you come back to use manipulation as excuse for doing what you did, that is an act of cowardice right there and a refusal to take responsibility for your actions.

IamPatriotic:
Parliamentary elections were held in Nigeria on 12 December 1959. The result was a hung parliament with no clear majority to form a government.

Zik's National Council of Nigeria and Cameroons (NCNC), came first with 2,594,577 votes to get 81 seats.

Awolowo's Action Group (AG), came second with 1,992,364 votes to get 73 seats.

However, the Ahmadu Bello's Northern People's Congress (NPC), came a distant third with 1,922,179 votes to get 134 of the 312 seats in the House of Representatives despite getting less public votes.

The above three major political parties in the election did not get enough number of the seats to form a government. An alliance had to be formed to determine who would rule.

It was a no brainer that Zik's NCNC and Awolowo's Action Group should make a coalition government as they came first and second respectively.

Awolowo, then humbled himself and volunteered to be a Deputy Prime Minister or Finance Minister in a coalition government with Zik as the Prime Minister. This was because the Zik's NCNC party had more public votes and seats than the Awolowo's Action Group.

Zik invited Awolowo’s team to Asaba, the gateway between the Yoruba's Western Region and the Igbo's Eastern Region to hold coalition talks. The talks were a clever ruse to keep Action Group’s hopes high, so that Action Group would be kept distracted from meeting with other minor parties for talks, including: Northern Elements Progressive Union with 8 seats; Mobolaje Grand Alliance with 6 seats; Igala Union with 4 seats; Independents Candidates with 4 seats; Igbira Tribal Union with 4 seats and the Niger Delta Congress with 1 seat.

Whilst the Action Group team was waiting in Asaba for a meeting with the NCNC, they read in the news that Zik and the NCNC had gone up North and clinched the deal with Ahmadu Bello on forming a coalition government with the NPC.

Tafawa Balewa, a Fulani, would be the Prime Minister of Nigeria while Zik would be the figure head Governor-General. Even Nkrumah of Ghana was shocked. He asked Zik why having spent so much energy fighting for colonial emancipation and then settling for a toothless bulldog role when Nigeria needed him the most.

Zik wrote in his autobiography why he did not form a coalition government with Awolowo.

In 1947, with over £13,500 raised from the Yoruba people and given to the NCNC, Zik had led other six prominent NCNC delegates to London to protest the “obnoxious laws” of Governor Arthur Richards. The trip ended in failure with backbiting, abuses and accusation of theft against Zik. Zik’s opponents at the NCNC, accused him of squandering the money and the trust of Nigerians.

Zik replied insinuating that the Yoruba on the team, that are: Mrs. Fumilayo Ransome-Kuti, Prince Adeleke Adedoyin, and Dr. A. B. Olorunnimbe, were the problem.

There erupted a heated and prolonged press war between Zik’s Political Reminiscence in his West African Pilot and H.O. Davies’ Political Panorama in the Daily Service. This led to Igbo in Lagos rushing to buy machetes in large numbers thinking a tribal war was imminent.

The Governor and his General Secretary, Hugh Foot, quickly called Zik and H.O. Davies to order at the Government House.

Zik went away with the resolve that “the Yoruba must not be allowed to rule over others in Nigeria”.

And afterwards in the Daily Service published the speech of Zik in 1949 about Igbo being destined by God to conquer and rule over others. This among others, will explain why Zik rejected Awolowo's offer of a coalition government in 1959 and instead worked with the Fulani.

The Fulani had been reading Zik and the Igbo through the lens of his 1949 speech ever since.

The Fulani way of neutralising Zik when the opportunity came in 1959 was to offer him a powerless post, which surprisingly Zik and the NCNC dutifully accepted in place of being Nigeria’s first Prime Minister.

Zik had thought that the Igbo can easily manipulate the Fulani in place of the educated Yoruba. He thus manipulated Balewa to arrest Awolowo in 1962 and to have him jailed for 10 years in 1963.

Zik also manipulated Balewa to remove from the Western Region the Edo, Urhobo, Itsekiri and Western Ijaw that account for 70% of the oil wealth in Nigeria and created for them the Mid-West Region.

Zik's hatred for the Yoruba gave the Fulani the impetus to rule over others in Nigeria.

The Igbo coup plotters tried to undo Zik's mistake in 1966. And unfortunately, they killed other tribes and left theirs, which resulted in the civil war.

Britain did not really hand over Nigeria to the Fulani. Nigeria was given over to the Fulani by the Igbo.

However, to hold on to power in Nigeria, the Fulani enlisted the backing of the self-serving career politicians in England.

Not many Igbo especially the young ones know this narrative. I don’t think the Yorubas, even their elders remember this. Has the leopard changed its spots?

~ Babalola Akinnuoye writes from Ibadan, Western Nigeria.

The hand over to northern region of Fulani occurred in 1967 when Yari.ba joined northern region and political elites from the said region to foist war on eastern region. The nonsense created by Lugard was about to crumble in 1967 but Yari.ba in their infinite wisdom of deceit joined the northern region erect a Nigeria that stood on one foot. Shame to any Yari.ba person who thought out above crap.

GeorgeTheCoder:
If you read carefuly you will see that the order parties in the election is based on popular votes. NCNC had the most popular votes followed by AG and then NPC. Despite this none could form a government

Shut up. The election was not decided on the number votes a political party garnered but the number of seats won.

IamPatriotic:
Parliamentary elections were held in Nigeria on 12 December 1959. The result was a hung parliament with no clear majority to form a government.

Zik's National Council of Nigeria and Cameroons (NCNC), came first with 2,594,577 votes to get 81 seats.

Awolowo's Action Group (AG), came second with 1,992,364 votes to get 73 seats.

However, the Ahmadu Bello's Northern People's Congress (NPC), came a distant third with 1,922,179 votes to get 134 of the 312 seats in the House of Representatives despite getting less public votes.

The above three major political parties in the election did not get enough number of the seats to form a government. An alliance had to be formed to determine who would rule.

It was a no brainer that Zik's NCNC and Awolowo's Action Group should make a coalition government as they came first and second respectively.

Awolowo, then humbled himself and volunteered to be a Deputy Prime Minister or Finance Minister in a coalition government with Zik as the Prime Minister. This was because the Zik's NCNC party had more public votes and seats than the Awolowo's Action Group.

Zik invited Awolowo’s team to Asaba, the gateway between the Yoruba's Western Region and the Igbo's Eastern Region to hold coalition talks. The talks were a clever ruse to keep Action Group’s hopes high, so that Action Group would be kept distracted from meeting with other minor parties for talks, including: Northern Elements Progressive Union with 8 seats; Mobolaje Grand Alliance with 6 seats; Igala Union with 4 seats; Independents Candidates with 4 seats; Igbira Tribal Union with 4 seats and the Niger Delta Congress with 1 seat.

Whilst the Action Group team was waiting in Asaba for a meeting with the NCNC, they read in the news that Zik and the NCNC had gone up North and clinched the deal with Ahmadu Bello on forming a coalition government with the NPC.

Tafawa Balewa, a Fulani, would be the Prime Minister of Nigeria while Zik would be the figure head Governor-General. Even Nkrumah of Ghana was shocked. He asked Zik why having spent so much energy fighting for colonial emancipation and then settling for a toothless bulldog role when Nigeria needed him the most.

Zik wrote in his autobiography why he did not form a coalition government with Awolowo.

In 1947, with over £13,500 raised from the Yoruba people and given to the NCNC, Zik had led other six prominent NCNC delegates to London to protest the “obnoxious laws” of Governor Arthur Richards. The trip ended in failure with backbiting, abuses and accusation of theft against Zik. Zik’s opponents at the NCNC, accused him of squandering the money and the trust of Nigerians.

Zik replied insinuating that the Yoruba on the team, that are: Mrs. Fumilayo Ransome-Kuti, Prince Adeleke Adedoyin, and Dr. A. B. Olorunnimbe, were the problem.

There erupted a heated and prolonged press war between Zik’s Political Reminiscence in his West African Pilot and H.O. Davies’ Political Panorama in the Daily Service. This led to Igbo in Lagos rushing to buy machetes in large numbers thinking a tribal war was imminent.

The Governor and his General Secretary, Hugh Foot, quickly called Zik and H.O. Davies to order at the Government House.

Zik went away with the resolve that “the Yoruba must not be allowed to rule over others in Nigeria”.

And afterwards in the Daily Service published the speech of Zik in 1949 about Igbo being destined by God to conquer and rule over others. This among others, will explain why Zik rejected Awolowo's offer of a coalition government in 1959 and instead worked with the Fulani.

The Fulani had been reading Zik and the Igbo through the lens of his 1949 speech ever since.

The Fulani way of neutralising Zik when the opportunity came in 1959 was to offer him a powerless post, which surprisingly Zik and the NCNC dutifully accepted in place of being Nigeria’s first Prime Minister.

Zik had thought that the Igbo can easily manipulate the Fulani in place of the educated Yoruba. He thus manipulated Balewa to arrest Awolowo in 1962 and to have him jailed for 10 years in 1963.

Zik also manipulated Balewa to remove from the Western Region the Edo, Urhobo, Itsekiri and Western Ijaw that account for 70% of the oil wealth in Nigeria and created for them the Mid-West Region.

Zik's hatred for the Yoruba gave the Fulani the impetus to rule over others in Nigeria.

The Igbo coup plotters tried to undo Zik's mistake in 1966. And unfortunately, they killed other tribes and left theirs, which resulted in the civil war.

Britain did not really hand over Nigeria to the Fulani. Nigeria was given over to the Fulani by the Igbo.

However, to hold on to power in Nigeria, the Fulani enlisted the backing of the self-serving career politicians in England.

Not many Igbo especially the young ones know this narrative. I don’t think the Yorubas, even their elders remember this. Has the leopard changed its spots?

~ Babalola Akinnuoye writes from Ibadan, Western Nigeria.

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Tafawa Balewa is not FULANI

deji17:
But, 81 plus 73 will yield 154 which is greater than 134. Zik and Awo would have been able to easily form the Government based on their numbers.

What was at stark in the election was not simple majority but 2/3 (two-third) majority for filibuster proof.

Dedetwo:
Shut up. The election was not decided on the number votes a political party garnered but the number of seats won.

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[quote author=hargbolahan01 post=89518581]if I can ask a question my brother?

how did saurdana of sokoto who is in [b]Kano know what they discuss in azikwe onitsha residence to be telling him they provide him the same deal?[/[/b]quote]

The Yari.ba people are always on their cunning strip and deceitfully inclined to gain something. The so-called close Lieutenants of Awo: Akintola and Rosiji had plans for Awo. They knew when Awo and his team will reach Onicha. While they were in Kaduna to meet with Ahmadu Bello on the issue of going into coalition with NPC, Awo and his team was in Onicha to strike the same deal with NCNC. When Akintola called Zik on phone to verify if Awo had arrived Onicha, Zik then informed Bello that Awo was in Onicha for the same coalition talk with AG. Now Bello and Azik could not trust Awo because his double dealing has been exposed.

GeorgeTheCoder:
Tell your bastard father to shut up. The popular vote based on voting area determined the seats. Fucking illiterate. Id.iot

You are the illiterate in this discussion. Only fool will think that popular vote determines the majority seat. Again number of elected members from each party that contested the election shall always determine which party won the majority seat.

Ojiofor:
Read before you comment.

During the negotiation, Ahmadu Bello insisted that the north should produce the Prime Minister, otherwise they were not ready for independence. In the agreement to end British colonial rule signed at Lancaster House, it was agreed that if any region said it was not ready for independence, the process will be postponed until all regions were willing to go ahead. According to Chief Amaechi, northern leaders took advantage of that agreement. Dr. Azikiwe and top leaders of the NCNC reasoned that having fought and sacrificed so much for political freedom, it was preferable to allow the north produce the first Prime Minister so that independence would be attained as soon as possible.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/the-problem-of-retrogressive-politics-in-nigeria-4/

Independence my foot, it could have been better postponed that this useless contraption called Nigeria, Zik goofed big time.