wirinet:


Let's assume that the quote in red is true. How do we know that the Sardauna did not outfox Zik? What other third party confirmed that Awo actually sent a delegation to Sokoto at the same time he sent a delegation to Onitsha? Remember a trip to Sokoto then would have taken many days is not up to a week. Why didn't Zik confirm the story told by Sarduana before abandoning Awo and dashing NPC (a party that came a distant third in the elections) the prime minister and then accepting to be a ceremonial head?

Another mystery is that if Awo actually offered to give the north prime minister position and accept finance minister, why did the Sarduana not accept but accepted Ziks offer instead?

Why did Zik refuse Awo's offer of prime Minister and accepted Sardauna's offer of ceremonial president instead?

So this story is the basis of the distrust of Igbos of Yorubas in general. It seems the north are master's of political strategy.

Did Awolowo deny it?
If he did I will like to read about it.

Uchek:
Awolowo was duplicitous and deceitful in his negotiation with Zik. It was wrong sending two delegation simultaneously to Balewa and Azikiwe. It drove Zik into Balewa's hand. Zik should have look beyond that behavior and focused on political power which is the ultimate price. According to Nkrumah, seek political power and everything shall be added to you

Political power with who?
Zik saw Awo's team as not being honest and don't want to be outsmarted by Awo so ho went into alliance with Sarduana to form government.

Ojiofor:


Did Awolowo deny it?
If he did I will like to read about it.

I honestly think more highly of Igbos than you guys are displaying here. Most Igbos I interact with in person are usually very intelligent and cerebral but these online ones are display such low deductive capacity.

Awo deny what? Maybe you need to go to Ikenne and wake up Awo to ask him, then he might deny or confirm it.

A sourceless story written by one fictitious Babalola Akinnuoye writes from Ibadan, Western Nigeria, written on a blog in Jul 17, 2019, and you want Awo to deny it.

OK, Awo Backstabbed Zik making all Yorubas backstabbers. Infact everyone that had ever interacted with igbos have one way or the other backstabbed them. Igbos are the only frontstabbers in the whole of Nigeria and the whole of Africa.. Are you happy now?

mrvitalis:

The problem yorubas have is you hurt someone and you expect them to forget and move one with you as if nothing happened but you keep remembering the bad things you think they did to you ....like how u guys expect south south to forget about 2015 and vote for you in 2023 ....no body is a fool

U really expected zik to form an alliance with awolowo that has displayed open hatred for him for no just reason for years ...the man that scaled alafin of Oyo because he preferred zik leadership style

Honestly u people must thing the rest Nigerians are fools that u can manipulate

These is the same reason Igbo have chosen to work with north even tho we hate it .....

North have only worked with yorubas only when igbos reject their offer ....you Yorubas are never anyone's first choice ...no body trust you guys


So if you were zik u would from alliance with awolowo ??

God bless you for this truth well spoken.

Ooni:
Just take a look at what Fulani are doing with our youths. I weep for the Yoruba race

I dey tell you lol.

wirinet:

I honestly think more highly of Igbos than you guys are displaying here. Most Igbos I interact with in person are usually very intelligent and cerebral but these online ones are display such low deductive capacity.

Awo deny what? Maybe you need to go to Ikenne and wake up Awo to ask him, then he might deny or confirm it.

A sourceless story written by one fictitious Babalola Akinnuoye writes from Ibadan, Western Nigeria, written on a blog in Jul 17, 2019, and you want Awo to deny it.

OK, Awo Backstabbed Zik making all Yorubas backstabbers. Infact everyone that had ever interacted with igbos have one way or the other backstabbed them. Igbos are the only frontstabbers in the whole of Nigeria and the whole of Africa.. Are you happy now?

The event did not happen in 2019 or did it?

mrvitalis:

The problem yorubas have is you hurt someone and you expect them to forget and move one with you as if nothing happened but you keep remembering the bad things you think they did to you ....like how u guys expect south south to forget about 2015 and vote for you in 2023 ....no body is a fool

U really expected zik to form an alliance with awolowo that has displayed open hatred for him for no just reason for years ...the man that scaled alafin of Oyo because he preferred zik leadership style

Honestly u people must thing the rest Nigerians are fools that u can manipulate

These is the same reason Igbo have chosen to work with north even tho we hate it .....

North have only worked with yorubas only when igbos reject their offer ....you Yorubas are never anyone's first choice ...no body trust you guys


So if you were zik u would from alliance with awolowo ??

So you think it makes sense for Zik to position himself as first Premier of western region riding on a party formed by a Yoruba man Herbert Macaulay, sidelining many capable Yoruba that could have been projected for that office?

Why was he not struggling to take over as Premier in northern region against Ahmadu Bello? He must have taken the liberality of the Yoruba for stupidity. Why did he not give the seat of Eastern region premier to a Yoruba man to show how detribalised he was?

mrvitalis:

Why would he form alliance with awolowo after all he did to him ...are you normal ...

It's like expecting south south to back south west after 2015

When they say British handed over power to the north ...look at the sits the north had ...look at the rest region

Hope you have an IQ high enough to understand that

The seats were equally divided between former northern and southern protectorate.

But the votes between Zik and Awolowo because they campaigned and got votes outside their region was already over 50% of total seats. They could easily have formed the government. They could also get the northern middle belt minority parties to join and strengthen their coalition.

But Zik was threatened by MI5 British intelligence to align only with Ahmadu Bello. They used a fraud involving Zik in the Eastern bank ACB as a bargaining chip to blackmail Zik.
You can't explain otherwise how anyone will reject executive powers of prime minister to take a Governor-general ceremonial position to be wearing uniform to inspect military parade and welcome foreign visitors.

Ojiofor:
We have Read from Lagos/Ibadan express way propaganda media,now let us read from an unbiased account from the other side.


The second account reflects the inability of Dr. Azikiwe and Chief Awolowo to reach a common ground at the critical moment so that one of them would become Prime Minister instead of Alhaji Balewa. Azikiwe had been blamed particularly by loyalists of Awolowo for preferring to align with NPC rather than with the AG. In my opinion, that is partially correct, which is probably an unfortunate outcome of the disappointment felt by NCNC leaders as a result of the carpet crossing episode of 1952. However, Chief Mbazulike Amaechi, a diehard supporter of Dr. Azikiwe, presented a different perspective on the issue about eight years ago.
According to Chief Amaechi, after the 1959 election when it became obvious that a coalition government must be formed to take over from the departing British colonialists, a delegation from the AG went to discuss the matter with NCNC leaders in Azikiwe’s Onitsha residence. It proposed that both parties should form an alliance such that Azikiwe would become Prime Minister while Awolowo would serve as the finance minister. While the discussion was on, Azikiwe went upstairs to answer a telephone call. Upon his return, Azikiwe told the AG delegation that the NCNC would consider AG’s proposal and send a delegation back to Chief Awolowo.

When the AG delegation left, Dr. Azikiwe informed the NCNC leaders present that the telephone call he went to answer was from the Sardauna of Sokoto and that the Sardauna had informed him of a delegation from Chief Awolowo which visited him offering NPC precisely what the other delegation that just left them offered their own party, the NCNC. Probably concluding that AG is a double-headed snake, Dr. Azikiwe decided to negotiate with the Sardauna.

During the negotiation, Ahmadu Bello insisted that the north should produce the Prime Minister, otherwise they were not ready for independence. In the agreement to end British colonial rule signed at Lancaster House, it was agreed that if any region said it was not ready for independence, the process will be postponed until all regions were willing to go ahead. According to Chief Amaechi, northern leaders took advantage of that agreement. Dr. Azikiwe and top leaders of the NCNC reasoned that having fought and sacrificed so much for political freedom, it was preferable to allow the north produce the first Prime Minister so that independence would be attained as soon as possible.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/the-problem-of-retrogressive-politics-in-nigeria-4/
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Zik and NCNC leadership was dealing with a double headed snake and a chameleon.

Meaning Zik was also negotiating with Sardauna, taking phone calls behind his guests, while receiving delegation from Awolowo, but Zik is not a snake.

Your tribal bigotry is out in the open

Dedetwo:


The loudmouths are tribally irredeemable. The dumbass who wrote above crap could not even deduce that 134 is greater than 81 and 73. NPC came first, the second place went NCNC while third position was occupied by AG.

And you're too far dumber to realise 81+73 is greater than 134?

And you're yet to realise the article allocated positions based on number of votes?

Ojiofor:


The event did not happen in 2019 or did it?

When then did it happen and who reported it?

Ojiofor:


According to report, AG sent delegates both to NPC and NCNC at the same time offering them same deal,so they accused them of double dealing.
Saduana called Zik to inform him that he was hosting a delegation of AG in Kaduna that was where Zik got idea of whats was going on.

What if Sardauna was second guessing Zik who naively fell for the trap. Is this worth throwing away executive powers away for a ceremonial post?

Check am now.

Who will throw away opportunity to be president in Nigeria today to settle for VP or Senate president?

anthony86:
The truth is that the British wouldn't have granted Nigeria independence if AG and NCNC had form a government. The British preferred a Nigeria Government ruled by a more Conservative North

Nigeria independence as at that time was a forgone conclusion, nothing the British could do to stop it at that point.

Worst possibilty is the northern region could have attempted to forcibly pull out of the federation

Ovamboland:


What if Sardauna was second guessing Zik who naively fell for the trap. Is this worth throwing away executive powers away for a ceremonial post?

Check am now.

Who will throw away opportunity to be president in Nigeria today to settle for VP or Senate president?

It seems the system was heavily rigged in favour of the North. The NPC with less than one forth of total votes got more than one third of the seats. While the NCNC that almost got 40% of total votes got less than one forth the total seats. If this system had continued the north will always have the upper hand in elections.

I wonder why Awolowo and Zik agreed to such a skewed type of democracy that greatly favoured the north.

maestroferddi:
Who has time to respond to the trash written by the misguided Yoruba element.

He claimed that Zik and NCNC came first because according to him they had the highest number of popular votes.

He must be thinking his readers are half-wits...Were we supposed to consider the popular votes or the parliamentary seats which matter in the real scheme of things?

A person with half a brain would have dwelt on why the NPC had more legislative seats while garnering less popular votes...

He chose not to face the existential issues but went to town with a subjective narrative that became stillbirth when viewed through logical prisms...

You think we are still in the past when you exploited your dominance of mainstream media to promote slanted and largely mendacious narratives?

We are in the era of the internet...we shall always meet you head on to refute your slew of crass verbiage...

Women were not allowed to vote in the most parts of the North, but the agreement during constitutional meetings was to divide equally the number of seats between northern and southern protectorates

Miracle1991:
so why crying now

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They believe it's the exclusive rights of ibos to align with the north....

That's why they hate Tinubu with a passion for usurping and attempting to benefit more than them from their assumed exclusive preserve

Ovamboland:


What if Sardauna was second guessing Zik who naively fell for the trap. Is this worth throwing away executive powers away for a ceremonial post?

Check am now.

Who will throw away opportunity to be president in Nigeria today to settle for VP or Senate president?

And you think Zik didn't have what it takes to know whether Sarduana was lying or not?
You think the decision with whom to form a coalition government was made in a day?
Awo was also angling to become VP to Sarduana and only sent delegates to the East to deceive Zik and Zik didn't fall to it according to this report.

maestroferddi:
One question I have for you:

If, by the quirk of fate and history, an Igboman emerges as the president in 2023, will you be honourable enough to banish yourself out of Nigeria?

It is a grievous tragedy that people that claim to have some degree of education would be sounding like stark illiterates.

The Igbos are one of the major peoples of Nigeria...They are condemned to produce a president sooner than later...It is only natural.

Ordinary Nnamdi Kanu is giving the Nigerian system sleepless nights....

Just imagine what will happen when over 40 million Igbos elected to push the self-determination agenda should the marginalisation, injustice and inequity lingers beyond the immediate future...

Everything is not about noisemaking and mindless tribalism...

Most of you Yoruba guys are blinded by envy and hate. You appear to think that Nigeria will end in 2023...You are putting all your eggs in one basket carried by Buhari at over 75 years of age................You discountenance the truism that politics can throw up surprises.

It is even so pathetic...Even the North are warming up to the inevitability of an Igbo president but you guys are living in a destructive denial.

Which sensible person can wrap their heads around the possibility that the Igbos continue being in Nigeria say in the next ten years without having a chance at the presidency?

The Igbos went to way over 50 years ago....Do you think they are afraid to go to the extremes these days where Nigeria has so many enemies waiting for civil unrest to erupt to finish her off as a force in Africa?

Just try and do some thinking...

If you think this is the way for one ethnic group out of 250 to win the top leadership position in the country it means the lessons of your first misadventures is not well learnt and needed to be retaught.

You'd be shocked to learn even Boko Haram and bandits will forget their insurgency and join to crush any Biafra rebellion.

You might not be lucky to get a leader like Gowon who was a moderating force to prevent an all out war on Biafra and made the war drag for 30 months instead of max 12 months. Gowon was thinking of reconciliation which is meaningless to Ibo, they only apparently only understand force and servitude.

All tribalists on nairaland are imbeciles,idiots,rabble rousers and the scum of the earth...when would all u daft goats with tissue paper in ur skulls realize that all the misdeeds done in the past,present and future are done solely not by the average person on the streets but by the political class who do what they do for their own personal interests, when they get benefits,they do so in secrecy and they do not involve the common man in the largesse but when the have clashes in personal interests then it is time to involve cows and goats who will rear their heads willing to slaughter one another for free and for nothing sake.
Wars are made by the elites for their benefits sadly the common man will continue to be the casualty.

Dedicated to all tribalists worldwide,u do not deserve the grey matter u own,u are a waste of sunlight for you chose not to grow.

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Mumu, see silly explanation, so Zik was also in double discussion with Sardauna and Awo at the same time. Only Zik has this right Awo does not.

Sadly it's the same approach to issues today with Zik offsprings that keep giving them bloody nose. Only ibos have the exclusive copyright to go into alliance with the north, Tinubu or any Yoruba has no such rights. Otherwise the roof must be brought down.

Ojiofor:


And you think Zik didn't have what it takes to know whether Sarduana was lying or not?
You think the decision with whom to form a coalition government was made in a day?
Awo was also angling to become VP to Sarduana and only sent delegates to the East to deceive Zik and Zik didn't fall to it according to this report.

Why advertise your ignorance openly on nairaland? A V.P in a parliamentary system of government?
First of all Sardauna was not vying for any elective post. He was simply the head of the party. Then the party that won the elections or that was the majority in a coalition government was to produce the prime minister, and other posts in the cabinet (ministers) would be shared according to negotiations. In the negotiation between Zik and Sardauna, NPC produced the prime minister and NCNC produced the president (ceremonial ) and finance Minister.

wirinet:


[s]Why advertise your ignorance openly on nairaland? A V.P in a parliamentary system of government?
First of all Sardauna was not vying for any elective post. He was simply the head of the party. Then the party that won the elections or that was the majority in a coalition government was will produce the prime minister and other posts in the cabinet (ministers) would be shared according to negotiations. In the negotiation between Zik and Sardauna, NPC produced the prime minister and NCNC produced the president (ceremonial ) and finance Minister.

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Didn't you see the person I quoted in that post made reference to Zik prefering VP and Senate president to executive power?
Abeg park oneside this sunday morning jor.

MelesZenawi:
Ok


Azikiwe is dead.

No time for long talk.

Yes we know...but whosoever fail to learn from the past years will be doomed to relive it again....
This was exactly what my father told me about the undoing of Zik....he made this mistake in 1959 and repeated the mistake in 1967 before the civil war...

maestroferddi:
Who has time to respond to the trash written by the misguided Yoruba element.

He claimed that Zik and NCNC came first because according to him they had the highest number of popular votes.

He must be thinking his readers are half-wits...Were we supposed to consider the popular votes or the parliamentary seats which matter in the real scheme of things?

A person with half a brain would have dwelt on why the NPC had more legislative seats while garnering less popular votes...

He chose not to face the existential issues but went to town with a subjective narrative that became stillbirth when viewed through logical prisms...

You think we are still in the past when you exploited your dominance of mainstream media to promote slanted and largely mendacious narratives?

We are in the era of the internet...we shall always meet you head on to refute your slew of crass verbiage...

Empty and pointless comment...

I painstakingly read through your craps and I find nothing that addresses and refutes the opinion of the op...

All I saw was dangling words here and there without any meaningful submission...

Dedetwo:


The loudmouths are tribally irredeemable. The dumbass who wrote above crap could not even deduce that 134 is greater than 81 and 73. NPC came first, the second place went NCNC while third position was occupied by AG.

You are evasive in your comment....was there no coalition government in 1960?
Nyamiri people

wirinet:


It seems the system was heavily rigged in favour of the North. The NPC with less than one forth of total votes got more than one third of the seats. While the NCNC that almost got 40% of total votes got less than one forth the total seats. If this system had continued the north will always have the upper hand in elections.

I wonder why Awolowo and Zik agreed to such a skewed type of democracy that greatly favoured the north.

Unfortunately that was the condition Sardauna gave the south to agree to go ahead with independence that is 50% of parliamentary seats allocated to the North. Out of the desperation the south represented by Zik and Awo agreed. Maybe they thought they could convince enough northern voters to swing to them. It backfired badly.

Ojiofor:


And you think Zik didn't have what it takes to know whether Sarduana was lying or not?
You think the decision with whom to form a coalition government was made in a day?
Awo was also angling to become VP to Sarduana and only sent delegates to the East to deceive Zik and Zik didn't fall to it according to this report.

So you agree Zik was doing the same thing, have discussion with Sardauna at the same time? Good, so what did Awo do wrong that Zik did not do? Did Zik disclose to Awos team that he was having discussion with Sardauna while meeting with them? Never.

Now was it a wise decision to take boy boy position as final answer when another option would have given you a master position?

The decision was based on crass myopic calculation that alignment with Awo would mean sharing open FG appointments with Yoruba who as well educated like Ibo. They figured going with NPC would make ibos dominate FG appointments and it worked.
Ibos emerged as first Nigerian VC of the 2 federal Universities, first head of the Army, and many other federal institutions.

The same crying today of marginalization actually marginalized others at any given opportunity. See what they did under Jonathan with Pius Anyim as SGF.

Ojiofor:
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Didn't you see the person I quoted in that post made reference to Zik prefering VP and Senate president to executive power?
Abeg park oneside this sunday morning jor.

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When you will not calm down to read, you missed the 'just like VP' statement in that post.

Ovamboland:

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When you will not calm down to read, you missed the 'just like VP' statement in that post.

Comment was 'just like' too.

Dedetwo:


The loudmouths are tribally irredeemable. The dumbass who wrote above crap could not even deduce that 134 is greater than 81 and 73. NPC came first, the second place went NCNC while third position was occupied by AG.

Senseless post

NCNC was not formed by Herbert Macauley. It was NNDP that was formed Macaulay.

Ovamboland:


So you think it makes sense for Zik to position himself as first Premier of western region riding on a party formed by a Yoruba man Herbert Macaulay, sidelining many capable Yoruba that could have been projected for that office?

Why was he not struggling to take over as Premier in northern region against Ahmadu Bello? He must have taken the liberality of the Yoruba for stupidity. Why did he not give the seat of Eastern region premier to a Yoruba man to show how detribalised he was?

All these our so called heroes past that laid the foundation of this country sef na from them all these wahala start from