₦airaland Forum

mrvitalis:
Igbos were killed by the betrayal of the yorubas and south south ...relax we know our enemy

2023 is not too far we shall see who knows how to play politics

Dedetwo:
You are the illiterate in this discussion. Only fool will think that popular vote determines the majority seat. Again number of elected members from each party that contested the election shall always determine which party won the majority seat.

Ojiofor:
According to report, AG sent delegates both to NPC and NCNC at the same time offering them same deal,so they accused them of double dealing.
Saduana called Zik to inform him that he was hosting a delegation of AG in Kaduna that was where Zik got idea of whats was going on.

maestroferddi:
One question I have for you:

If, by the quirk of fate and history, an Igboman emerges as the president in 2023, will you be honourable enough to banish yourself out of Nigeria?

It is a grievous tragedy that people that claim to have some degree of education would be sounding like stark illiterates.

The Igbos are one of the major peoples of Nigeria...They are condemned to produce a president sooner than later...It is only natural.

Ordinary Nnamdi Kanu is giving the Nigerian system sleepless nights....

Just imagine what will happen when over 40 million Igbos elected to push the self-determination agenda should the marginalisation, injustice and inequity lingers beyond the immediate future...

Everything is not about noisemaking and mindless tribalism...

Most of you Yoruba guys are blinded by envy and hate. You appear to think that Nigeria will end in 2023...You are putting all your eggs in one basket carried by Buhari at over 75 years of age................You discountenance the truism that politics can throw up surprises.

It is even so pathetic...Even the North are warming up to the inevitability of an Igbo president but you guys are living in a destructive denial.

Which sensible person can wrap their heads around the possibility that the Igbos continue being in Nigeria say in the next ten years without having a chance at the presidency?

The Igbos went to way over 50 years ago....Do you think they are afraid to go to the extremes these days where Nigeria has so many enemies waiting for civil unrest to erupt to finish her off as a force in Africa?

Just try and do some thinking...

maestroferddi:
Yoruba Muslim....next?

Topsic70:
lolz..... clown

Yebosola:
Gibberish!!! U are still where u started, Yoruba put her eggs in one basket? U don't know what u are saying, talking to hear your voice only, Yorubas voted both parties, where not like u, eggs in one basket? The jokes are on u

Yebosola:
Independence my foot, it could have been better postponed that this useless contraption called Nigeria, Zik goofed big time.

maestroferddi:
One raw nerve touched...

deji17:
Awo did. He offered to become Deputy Prime Minister or Finance Minister under Zik. Do you have any record to the contrary? Zik prefered alliance with NPC.

Topsic70:
Lolz....4 ya mynd abi?
Taaaaaaa!

deji17:
Yoruba are not even afraid of being in opposition. We have occupied that spots for 55 years, yet we did not accuse anybody of betrayal.

maestroferddi:
Gbafuo!

Dedetwo:
What was at stark in the election was not simple majority but 2/3 (two-third) majority for filibuster proof.

maestroferddi:
You can call a friend or google-translare...

deji17:
So you agree that Zik handed over power to Balewa instead of forming alliance with Awo? Yes or No answer will suffice.

Wiseandtrue:
This write-up reeks of envy!!!

Something didn't add up!!!

Because the Governor-General may dismiss an incumbent Prime Minister and Cabinet, an individual Minister, or any other official who holds office "during the Queen's pleasure" or "during the Governor-General's pleasure".

... A Governor-General can also refuse a Prime Minister's request to dissolve Parliament and hold elections.

So how's it a figure head post

Saying that that Zik was a figure head Governor-General is like saying that the post of a secretary is more than the post of the president

So if Zik became the governor general, it cancels the narrative that he handed Nigeria over to the fulanis.

Abeg talk another one!!!

maestroferddi:
I still maintain you that you are not quick on the uptake...

Who corroborated your risible tale that Awo elected to concede primacy to Ojukwu?

And was there a historical precedence to support such assertion?

Should we take this lazy write up, which is hardly worth the time spent reading it, a proof of what played out?

You cant even achieve simple coherence in recounting your fable...

deji17:
Again, abusing people and throwing tantrums will get you no where. Zik aligned with NPC to form Govt, ignoring Awo. The rest is history. If you have a contrary history lay it bare.

Justiceleague1:
You people can believe whatever you want to.

But you yorubas must know that your have become a left hand in the south.

Only God knows what you people are after, only God knows why you people have chosen to be enemies to other south all of a sudden.


May God deliver us from Judas Iscariot. May God deliver us from enemies within...
Smh

deji17:
Enemies of the south? You missed it. Is your issue about Zik forming alliance with the North or something else?

Justiceleague1:
For God's sake,of what use,of what relevance is that today,if at all it's even true?

We can keep dancing while the north continue to ride on horses.

If you people want the south to remain divided,no problem.
The north can continue to rule.


And fyi,I'm not Igbo,I'm just a concerned southerner from the SS.

deji17:
See, as long as there is a Nigeria under a democracy, power will continue to rate between the South and the North.
The Fourth republic, started in 1999 with OBJ becoming the President for 8 years. Jonathan spend 5-1/2 years. All together close to 14 years. By 2023, when power is expected to return to the South after Buhari, it would have been 24 years of democracy out of which 13.5 yrs was South and 10.5 yrs for the North. How we organise ourselves in the South is up to us. Ijaw, Yoruba, Igbo etc. The North too is as diverse as the south as they have different tribes.

Justiceleague1:
Thank God you know this. But the question remains,why are you yorubas so bent on causing division in the south?
Why are you making threads every day just to paint the Igbos in bad colours?

Why is it that when ever there's matter concerning Kanu, Wike, Asari Dokuboh Edwin Clark, you yorubas are always the ones, the first to to crucify them,even gej and his wife, PEJ?!

Have you ever seen northerners making threads every day condemning and crucifying fellow northerners no matter how bad they are?

Have you ever seen northerners making threads on Abacha, IBB,abdusalam, buhari,...even Shekau?
How many northerners opened thread in dollar man, Ganduje?

But mention ngozi Iweala or Stella Oduah now, you people will be the first to insult,condemn and attack them!!!!

Sure,power should come to the south come 2023 and it ain't supposed to be a big deal cos naturally and rightly,it should go to the east or worst case, SS. But isn't the same tinubu that destroyed the south and Niger Delta chance 2014 rearing to run come 2023?

See,we other south are not like you guys,we will never contest with tinubu if he wants to run...we will never contest with our fellow southerner as our fellow southerner should not contest with us what is rightly our turn.
We will back out and support the stranger from the north. Simple.

But I hope and pray that shouldn't be the case. Good night

Justiceleague1:
You people can believe whatever you want to.

But you yorubas must know that your have become a left hand in the south.

Only God knows what you people are after, only God knows why you people have chosen to be enemies to other south all of a sudden.


May God deliver us from Judas Iscariot. May God deliver us from enemies within...
Smh

nku5:
The useless copy and paste is full of lies and half truths but these are a sample



In one sentence he is saying Zik was powerless and checkmated by Balewa and in the next he is saying Zik made Balewa arrest Awo

How could Zik have made Balewa create the Midwest region when it was created by a referendum that chose to separate from the Yorubas in a huge landslide. Was Zik a god?

Like I said before if all this anti igbo propaganda we are seeing everywhere is to impress the north ahead of 2023 then yorubas have a lot to learn about the north

nku5:
The way Buhari scammed Tinubu in 2015 no be small thing. The man no gree kpai

Ojiofor:
We have Read from Lagos/Ibadan express way propaganda media,now let us read from an unbiased account from the other side.


The second account reflects the inability of Dr. Azikiwe and Chief Awolowo to reach a common ground at the critical moment so that one of them would become Prime Minister instead of Alhaji Balewa. Azikiwe had been blamed particularly by loyalists of Awolowo for preferring to align with NPC rather than with the AG. In my opinion, that is partially correct, which is probably an unfortunate outcome of the disappointment felt by NCNC leaders as a result of the carpet crossing episode of 1952. However, Chief Mbazulike Amaechi, a diehard supporter of Dr. Azikiwe, presented a different perspective on the issue about eight years ago.
According to Chief Amaechi, after the 1959 election when it became obvious that a coalition government must be formed to take over from the departing British colonialists, a delegation from the AG went to discuss the matter with NCNC leaders in Azikiwe’s Onitsha residence. It proposed that both parties should form an alliance such that Azikiwe would become Prime Minister while Awolowo would serve as the finance minister. While the discussion was on, Azikiwe went upstairs to answer a telephone call. Upon his return, Azikiwe told the AG delegation that the NCNC would consider AG’s proposal and send a delegation back to Chief Awolowo.

When the AG delegation left, Dr. Azikiwe informed the NCNC leaders present that the telephone call he went to answer was from the Sardauna of Sokoto and that the Sardauna had informed him of a delegation from Chief Awolowo which visited him offering NPC precisely what the other delegation that just left them offered their own party, the NCNC. Probably concluding that AG is a double-headed snake, Dr. Azikiwe decided to negotiate with the Sardauna.

During the negotiation, Ahmadu Bello insisted that the north should produce the Prime Minister, otherwise they were not ready for independence. In the agreement to end British colonial rule signed at Lancaster House, it was agreed that if any region said it was not ready for independence, the process will be postponed until all regions were willing to go ahead. According to Chief Amaechi, northern leaders took advantage of that agreement. Dr. Azikiwe and top leaders of the NCNC reasoned that having fought and sacrificed so much for political freedom, it was preferable to allow the north produce the first Prime Minister so that independence would be attained as soon as possible.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/the-problem-of-retrogressive-politics-in-nigeria-4/
cc:Iampatriotic

Zik and NCNC leadership was dealing with a double headed snake and a chameleon.

Ojiofor:
We have Read from Lagos/Ibadan express way propaganda media,now let us read from an unbiased account from the other side.


The second account reflects the inability of Dr. Azikiwe and Chief Awolowo to reach a common ground at the critical moment so that one of them would become Prime Minister instead of Alhaji Balewa. Azikiwe had been blamed particularly by loyalists of Awolowo for preferring to align with NPC rather than with the AG. In my opinion, that is partially correct, which is probably an unfortunate outcome of the disappointment felt by NCNC leaders as a result of the carpet crossing episode of 1952. However, Chief Mbazulike Amaechi, a diehard supporter of Dr. Azikiwe, presented a different perspective on the issue about eight years ago.
According to Chief Amaechi, after the 1959 election when it became obvious that a coalition government must be formed to take over from the departing British colonialists, a delegation from the AG went to discuss the matter with NCNC leaders in Azikiwe’s Onitsha residence. It proposed that both parties should form an alliance such that Azikiwe would become Prime Minister while Awolowo would serve as the finance minister. While the discussion was on, Azikiwe went upstairs to answer a telephone call. Upon his return, Azikiwe told the AG delegation that the NCNC would consider AG’s proposal and send a delegation back to Chief Awolowo.

When the AG delegation left, Dr. Azikiwe informed the NCNC leaders present that the telephone call he went to answer was from the Sardauna of Sokoto and that the Sardauna had informed him of a delegation from Chief Awolowo which visited him offering NPC precisely what the other delegation that just left them offered their own party, the NCNC. Probably concluding that AG is a double-headed snake, Dr. Azikiwe decided to negotiate with the Sardauna.

During the negotiation, Ahmadu Bello insisted that the north should produce the Prime Minister, otherwise they were not ready for independence. In the agreement to end British colonial rule signed at Lancaster House, it was agreed that if any region said it was not ready for independence, the process will be postponed until all regions were willing to go ahead. According to Chief Amaechi, northern leaders took advantage of that agreement. Dr. Azikiwe and top leaders of the NCNC reasoned that having fought and sacrificed so much for political freedom, it was preferable to allow the north produce the first Prime Minister so that independence would be attained as soon as possible.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/the-problem-of-retrogressive-politics-in-nigeria-4/
cc:Iampatriotic

Zik and NCNC leadership was dealing with a double headed snake and a chameleon.