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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by SoftHeart(m): 3:58pm On May 14, 2020
atoleybaba:
something like this....it's 2000litre....I have been using this one for more than 10years now and it is still very strong. It can comfortably contain at most 500fishes
Thanks so much.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by tman13: 12:18am On May 16, 2020
I have table size catfish for sale at sango ijoko ogbaayo in Ogun State 07038122984
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by durodee(m): 4:49am On May 16, 2020
atoleybaba:
ok...get OTC...and please if it is possible, can u take a picture of ur fish??
I will do so as soon as possible. Thanks a lot
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Mubby4luv(m): 12:25pm On May 16, 2020
Anyone with Broodstock for sale in Abuja?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 7:15am On May 17, 2020
Please do we have steady buyers of catfish in Ibadan and what's their average price per kilo? please kindly split the price in melange size and table size catfish.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by waleyp(m): 9:12am On May 17, 2020
yes you can find buyers in ibadan it depends on where you are.. i dont know the current prices now
Johnnyessence:
Please do we have steady buyers of catfish in Ibadan and what's their average price per kilo? please kindly split the price in melange size and table size catfish.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 11:55am On May 17, 2020
waleyp:
yes you can find buyers in ibadan it depends on where you are.. i dont know the current prices now
please i need the current prices of melange and table size fish.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 12:56pm On May 17, 2020
Catfish farming is a scam.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by waleyp(m): 1:37pm On May 17, 2020
OK I will see if I can find out
Johnnyessence:
please i need the current prices of melange and table size fish.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 5:07pm On May 17, 2020
Weedsmoker:
Catfish farming is a scam.
just say you failed
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody:
excelsiorfarm:
just say you failed
I did not only fail, hundreds if not thousands of others also did,the biz is overhyped.My senior bro lost over 15m on that useless biz not that we didn't plan well and we even hired the best of consultants to guide us,with state of the art hatchery and other facilities,we even use the best fish feed that money can buy.Catfish biz has destroyed so many lives, caused pains and sorrows to families.Its just like forex trading biz,the more you look the less you see..... losses, losses upon losses.
The only people profiting from the biz are catfish information marketers and consultants,fish sellers in the market,feeds sellers while the farmers end up in pains and sorrows.


Ladies and gentlemen,catfish farming is a scam.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Mubby4luv(m): 6:04pm On May 17, 2020
Mubby4luv:
Anyone with Broodstock for sale in Abuja?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by issamiracle(m): 7:10pm On May 17, 2020
Please house... I need urgent answers..... I bought some brood stocks today.... 2 female one male.... But now the male is dead.... Can I still use the dead fish sperm... Or I need to buy another.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 7:48pm On May 17, 2020
Weedsmoker:
I did not only fail, hundreds if not thousands of others also did,the biz is overhyped.My senior bro lost over 15m on that useless biz not that we didn't plan well and we even hired the best of consultants to guide us,with state of the art hatchery and other facilities,we even use the best fish feed that money can buy.Catfish biz has destroyed so many lives, caused pains and sorrows to families.Its just like forex trading biz,the more you look the less you see..... losses, losses upon losses.
The only people profiting from the biz are catfish information marketers and consultants,fish sellers in the market,feeds sellers while the farmers end up in pains and sorrows.


Ladies and gentlemen,catfish farming is scam.
I know someone that spent 60m and made nothing. However your brother tried. Agriculture is not about having money, it is more than that. I know someone that invested 2m in crop(maize) and made 200k (1.8m losses). Many tried to start without insight, and they failed. Let me see the picture of the hatchery. How long did it run? If you are humble enough to show me, I will tell you what want wrong. That 15m is 500k juveniles. How much did you pay to consultant? Information marketers? If you answer this I will thoroughly analyse your fish project.
Others could learn from this
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 8:09pm On May 17, 2020
Today, let me teach you how you can know the appropriate number of fishes that you could keep in any given space or containers.

It is obvious that among the most asked questions in fish farming is 'how many fishes will/would be kept in a pond of this length, height(depth) and width'?

Today, you will have no need to worry on that again. By the Grace of God, you will know how to do your calculation, which is what only a few can confidently say they know, apart from guess work on what should or should not be raised in a space or pond.

Not to give you worries, let's delve straight to how you can calculate water content in litres in any given space. This is something I was privilege to write many years ago on nairaland to educate prospective and working fish farmers.

Now to the calculation:-

Let's assume your pond is length=10
Width=10 and depth is 4.
First to get the number of gallons of water, your calculation will be 10*10*4 multiply by 7.5= 3,000 gallons of water.
The 7.5 is a standard, hence I won't waste time to elaborate.

Now, you have to convert the gallons into litres (remember, we work mostly in litres).
There are two major litres measurement globally, the US litres and the UK litres.
1 US gallon = 3.79 litres (it have been approximated to 2 decimal from 3.7878)

1 UK gallon=4.55 litres (it have been approximated to 2 decimal from 4.5455)

Hence, now convert the 3,000 gallons above to litres.
For UK=11,363.64 litres
For US=13,636.36 litres

Now you know the litres of water present in your pond. The question is now, how much water does a fish need to grow well? The answer is it depends on expertise and technology. Recirculatory system needs far less(expensive, expensive because of need to power it too).
Let me come to the norm, with or without aerators.
A fish is OK with 11-12 litres, that is about 1000 with good management.

However, I could say I will do more with more fishes, that is raise more with less water by including aerators or not. All this does not come by trials, experience will help you know your handling limits.

BEST YOU FOLLOW THE PREVIOUS, BECAUSE THE SECOND WILL BE BY YOUR OWN CAPABILITY WITH EXPERIENCE OVERTIME.

Note:- I used the US litres for my calculation because it is appropriate.

Also, if your pond have irregular sharp(not every pond is well defined in it's measurement), there is a gap of 10-20% less in your calculation, depending on how great the irregularities is seen.

I wish you all the best in your fish farming exploits. And possibly, I could give more vital information in future.

Share with other fish farmers and understand that it is pertinent to know what number to stock, so as not to stunt the growth of your fishes.

Better more space for newbies, than overcrowding.
For the experience ones, you can do without calculating anything. The realities, determine the decision you take.

Post by Excelsiorfarm
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 8:10pm On May 17, 2020
Let me teach you how to calculate the amount of fish feeds you would need daily in your fish farm.

First get the weight of your fishes, in some cases especially for big farmers, you can do an estimate by picking out 5 fishes and getting the average, then multiply by the total number of fish in the pond.

It is appropriate to feed your fishes between 3-5% of their body weight daily. Anything beyond +/-6 is already a waste, that is what causes pollution, depletion of oxygen, stress and leads to diseases and also mortality.

E.g to calculate amount of feed to give 2000 fishes of 20 grams for example is given below:-

Ikg = 1000g
Weight of fish =20*2000 = 40,000g

Now to feed them, the formula is

Weight of feed= 20*2000*5/1000*100

Using 5% as our choice of body weight used for calculation (remember between 3-5% is OK, though 4% is good)

Which is equal to 2kg daily, to be accurate, you have to check their weight through random sampling every week or biweekly, depending on how convenient or increase by 10-12% after a week.
BEST IS TO CHECK FISH WEIGHT

THE 2KG CAN BE GIVEN TO THE FISHES BY dividing into 2, I.e 1kg in morning, 1kg in the evening, preferably before 6pm or at worst 6pm.

In the evening oxygen content in water reduces and feeding them late can cause mortality to not bore you with details.

Share with other fish farmers, more than 70% just feed and later come to

Post by Excelsiorfarm
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody:
excelsiorfarm:
I know someone that spent 60m and made nothing. However your brother tried. Agriculture is not about having money, it is more than that. I know someone that invested 2m in crop(maize) and made 200k (1.8m losses). Many tried to start without insight, and they failed. Let me see the picture of the hatchery. How long did it run? If you are humble enough to show me, I will tell you what want wrong. That 15m is 500k juveniles. How much did you pay to consultant? Information marketers? If you answer this I will thoroughly analyse your fish project.
Others could learn from this
Their is nothing you can say to me that will change my perception about this biz,I have seen it all,it's a time wasting,finance draining and destiny killing business.Let he who has ears hear me.....say no to cat fish business if you value your peace of mind.

No matter the training you undertake, their are bound to be losses,if it's not from cannabalism,it will be unexpected deaths, increase in prices of feeds,fish buyers giving you unreasonable prices after suffering to farm your fishes,the power supply situation in the country makes matters even worse.I could remember the first hatching we did the whole fishes died not even one survived.
The fastest way to suicide is to take a bank loan or lapo to run this biz,my brother just go and dig your grave.

I have seen it all,nobody should preach to me, Even God knows all am saying is nothing but the truth.Stay away from catfish biz if you value your life.

A word is enough for the wise.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 9:19pm On May 17, 2020
Weedsmoker:
Their is nothing you can say to me that will change my perception about this biz,I have seen it all,it's a time wasting,finance draining and destiny killing business.Let he who has ears hear me.....say no to cat fish business if you value your peace of mind.

No matter the training you undertake, their are bound to be losses,if it's not from cannabalism,it will be unexpected deaths, increase in prices of feeds,fish buyers giving you unreasonable prices after suffering to farm your fishes,the power supply situation in the country makes matters even worse.I could remember the first hatching we did the whole fishes died not even one survived.
The fastest way to suicide is to take a bank loan or lapo to run this biz,my brother just go and dig your grave.

I have seen it all,nobody should preach to me, Even God knows all am saying is nothing but the truth.Stay away from catfish biz if you value your life.

A word is enough for the wise.
who want to change your perception? Your loss and your decision. Question is how can 15m be use for hatchery? Why will any use loan for something they know little about? I only sympathise with the one that suffer loss. It is well
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 9:23pm On May 17, 2020
Though I have been away from this place for a long time. My advice is if you are planning to go into fish farming, know what it takes, get insight and don't think because you have money that you can get around any business.

Ask dangote about his Indomies or his fruit juice business.

My own one dollar for you
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Mubby4luv(m): 9:26pm On May 17, 2020
Weedsmoker:
Their is nothing you can say to me that will change my perception about this biz,I have seen it all,it's a time wasting,finance draining and destiny killing business.Let he who has ears hear me.....say no to cat fish business if you value your peace of mind.

No matter the training you undertake, their are bound to be losses,if it's not from cannabalism,it will be unexpected deaths, increase in prices of feeds,fish buyers giving you unreasonable prices after suffering to farm your fishes,the power supply situation in the country makes matters even worse.I could remember the first hatching we did the whole fishes died not even one survived.
The fastest way to suicide is to take a bank loan or lapo to run this biz,my brother just go and dig your grave.

I have seen it all,nobody should preach to me, Even God knows all am saying is nothing but the truth.Stay away from catfish biz if you value your life.

A word is enough for the wise.
Okay we ve heard you. Just because it didn't work for you/your brother doesn't mean it won't/doesn't work for others. We get it, Agriculture is very risky only the brave can survive.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 3:26am On May 18, 2020
issamiracle:
Please house... I need urgent answers..... I bought some brood stocks today.... 2 female one male.... But now the male is dead.... Can I still use the dead fish sperm... Or I need to buy another.
though it is possible to store milt to be used for future, but milt from dead male may not be in your best interest, especially if the fish had died for a while
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 4:20am On May 18, 2020
waleyp:
OK I will see if I can find out
thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 6:54am On May 18, 2020
Weedsmoker:
I did not only fail, hundreds if not thousands of others also did,the biz is overhyped.My senior bro lost over 15m on that useless biz not that we didn't plan well and we even hired the best of consultants to guide us,with state of the art hatchery and other facilities,we even use the best fish feed that money can buy.Catfish biz has destroyed so many lives, caused pains and sorrows to families.Its just like forex trading biz,the more you look the less you see..... losses, losses upon losses.
The only people profiting from the biz are catfish information marketers and consultants,fish sellers in the market,feeds sellers while the farmers end up in pains and sorrows.


Ladies and gentlemen,catfish farming is scam.
seriously weed is affecting your brain, people are in fish farming business for leisure, profit, loss and gain. forget it here, investors lose billions of naira in other business venture. you are crying here that someone lost 15m naira. i guess you don't know what business entails in Nigeria. in fish business, you just have to maintain the spirit of endurance. it is not only fish farming , it happens in other business too.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 6:58am On May 18, 2020
Weedsmoker:
Their is nothing you can say to me that will change my perception about this biz,I have seen it all,it's a time wasting,finance draining and destiny killing business.Let he who has ears hear me.....say no to cat fish business if you value your peace of mind.

No matter the training you undertake, their are bound to be losses,if it's not from cannabalism,it will be unexpected deaths, increase in prices of feeds,fish buyers giving you unreasonable prices after suffering to farm your fishes,the power supply situation in the country makes matters even worse.I could remember the first hatching we did the whole fishes died not even one survived.
The fastest way to suicide is to take a bank loan or lapo to run this biz,my brother just go and dig your grave.

I have seen it all,nobody should preach to me, Even God knows all am saying is nothing but the truth.Stay away from catfish biz if you value your life.

A word is enough for the wise.
As if there's no losses in other business. people enter fish farming business every day and also some quit fish farming too. you can quit if you like, it's your choice. stop discouraging others ok. this life is all about choice.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody:
Johnnyessence:
As if there's no losses in other business. people enter fish farming business every day and also some quit fish farming too. you can quit if you like, it's your choice. stop discouraging others ok. this life is all about choice.
I have already quit since January this year boy.I'm not only discouraging others,am trying to save them from calamity and untimely death.
You here talking tell yourself the truth what have achieved from the profits of catfish biz.Where is your car? Where is your house?
The scam is worst than MMM,I don't sugarcoat things.I say them as it is.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Sikay19(m): 12:24pm On May 18, 2020
Weedsmoker:
I have already quit since January this year boy.Am not only discouraging others,am trying to save them from calamity and untimely death.
You here talking tell yourself the truth what have achieved from the profits of catfish biz.Where is your car? Where is your house?
The scam is worst than MMM,I don't sugarcoat things.I say them as it is.
Bro, check your mail
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 9:18pm On May 18, 2020
Weedsmoker:
I have already quit since January this year boy.I'm not only discouraging others,am trying to save them from calamity and untimely death.
You here talking tell yourself the truth what have achieved from the profits of catfish biz.Where is your car? Where is your house?
The scam is worst than MMM,I don't sugarcoat things.I say them as it is.
you are only suffering from oppression and depression here, some are into and smiling to their various banks. infact after some people harvest, they adopt smoking of the fishes too. they packaged it and sold it out. some even export it.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody:
Johnnyessence:
you are only suffering from oppression and depression here, some are into and smiling to their various banks. infact after some people harvest, they adopt smoking of the fishes too. they packaged it and sold it out. some even export it.
I'm not suffering from any depression my friend,my bank account can feed your entire generations for 10 decades.Check my threads am into metal scraps business big time.Not everyone is suffering from depression like you.I'm only here warn people about the dangers of catfish biz.

By the way you haven't answered my question boy.Where is your car and house you built from the proceeds of catfish farming.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 6:28am On May 19, 2020
Weedsmoker:
I'm not suffering from any depression my friend,my bank account can feed your entire generations for 10 decades.Check my threads am into metal scraps business big time.Not everyone is suffering from depression like you.I'm only here warn people about the dangers of catfish biz.

By the way you haven't answered my question boy.Where is your car and house you built from the proceeds of catfish farming.
No wonder, do i tell you that I'm in competition with any one nii. you are depressed empty barrel.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Mubby4luv(m): 10:10am On May 19, 2020
Good morning everyone. I want to share an experience I had yesterday perhaps I will get a good explanation.
Yesterday I injected 2 female broodstock and kept each in a separate container. I had my males ready also and I kept them in an identical container with that of the females. Somehow in the night, It was raining and a male jumped off it's container but luckily my security man saw it and carelessly placed it back in a container housing a female. Now this morning I rushed to the farm to do the needful only to find out that there was no single egg left in the female, the eggs were spilled all over the container and the male was so weak and his body was ashy in color. Please anyone knows What could ve happened?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fish4wealth: 2:30pm On May 19, 2020
First, is this your first time of trying your hands on hatching?
If yes( which i presume so), i must state that, newbies who fail to do the needful may suffer from such ignorance thereby giving room for some failed and inexperience acclaimed fish farmers to talk down on the industry.

Few things you did wrong....
1. Not securing the escape of fish...
2. Your security naivety in keeping two fishes together in a confined container....
3. Female broodstock are more aggressive than their male counterpart not even after inoculation....
4. You were not timing of the latent period of the female hence the entire release of her eggs...

Let's see farming as a professional business and not mere hobby....

Get the right training and information.

I hope by now, the second female and male should have been used.

Share your current experience.

Mubby4luv:
Good morning everyone. I want to share an experience I had yesterday perhaps I will get a good explanation.
Yesterday I injected 2 female broodstock and kept each in a separate container. I had my males ready also and I kept them in an identical container with that of the females. Somehow in the night, It was raining and a male jumped off it's container but luckily my security man saw it and carelessly placed it back in a container housing a female. Now this morning I rushed to the farm to do the needful only to find out that there was no single egg left in the female, the eggs were spilled all over the container and the male was so weak and his body was ashy in color. Please anyone knows What could ve happened?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Mubby4luv(m): 6:43pm On May 19, 2020
Fish4wealth:
First, is this your first time of trying your hands on hatching?
If yes( which i presume so), i must state that, newbies who fail to do the needful may suffer from such ignorance thereby giving room for some failed and inexperience acclaimed fish farmers to talk down on the industry.

Few things you did wrong....
1. Not securing the escape of fish...
2. Your security naivety in keeping two fishes together in a confined container....
3. Female broodstock are more aggressive than their male counterpart not even after inoculation....
4. You were not timing of the latent period of the female hence the entire release of her eggs...

Let's see farming as a professional business and not mere hobby....

Get the right training and information.

I hope by now, the second female and male should have been used.

Share your current experience.
Lo.. Thanks for your response. But you can do better in a polite way. It's just an experience shared.

BTW this is not my first time of hatching. Like I stated everything went as usual with the others, just the one (male) that had went out. Anyways all is well and both the male and female are fine.
I won't take it that it was the latent time. Why didn't the other two release their eggs since they were induced at the same time?
I understand that it was the storm that must ve knocked down the container, not that it was not properly secured.

Anyways thank you.
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