Gabkosh:
[s][/s]Shhhhhhhi, when you are ready, inform me.

Nah, I'll never be ready; u're too far far UP the abyss

horsepower102:


They can pass through the river to gain access to the open sea. This is protected by international laws. This is the main debate. No one arguing otherwise has shown any proof to the contrary. All I see here are bitter hateful hearts clinging unto landlocked propaganda.

just because of international law doesn't mean you'll just be doing things anyhow without regards to the other countries around u. As analogy, the law is government owns all the land belongs to government, now if your state government wants to build road and it passes through your land and they just claim the land like that without even consulting you or paying you how would you feel? Yes there's a law but without the consent and negotiation of the SS you can't do anything really.

Gabkosh:
E pain am

pain who?.......you've got be out of your mind! you are a psychopath. I do not know why ppl bother with you. you are potentially homicidal since it's your wish to see your fellow man remain in bondage.I do believe that mental malady may just be communal to your people.

Blackking98:
just because of international law doesn't mean you'll just be doing things anyhow without regards to the other countries around u. As analogy, the law is government owns all the land belongs to government, now if your state government wants to build road and it passes through your land and they just claim the land like that without even consulting you or paying you how would you feel? Yes there's a law but without the consent and negotiation of the SS you can't do anything really.

Believe me it will not be in the interest of the SS ( short or long term ) to sabotage any port project in Azumili nor do they have military might to stop it anyway.The opening up of that shipping route will be beneficial to all parties.

Adefatima:


Are you not aware Lagos colony was separate so effectively Lagos built its port itself and who were the habitants of Lagos then ? No be until later igbos see big city Lagos after Samuel Ajayi gave you your first Igbo bible

Like seriously?

Yes, Lagos was a separate COLONY!
But it was called a COLONY for a reason.

told you it was built by the COLONIAL (from the word COLONY) masters, and all u could counter with, is Lagos being a separate COLONY?
Like, how does that change anything? SMH!

ProT:


Nwanne, I understand you; but if we are to use this logic, then no country is landlocked, including Lesotho, becos even Lesotho has access to the ocean via the Orange river.

Lesotho is bordered on all sides by land. Orange river pass through it upnorth into other south African cities. The orange river did not connect Lesotho directly to the ocean. I do not also want to talk about the distance because it is really outrageous. That is why it is called an enclave.

In our case, the Imo River, which originates from Umuaku in Isuochi of Umunneochi Local Government Area meandered its way up to Obeaku-Ndoki, from where it emptied itself into the Atlantic Ocean. It is very strategic to mention that the distance between Obeaku-Ndoki and the Atlantic Ocean, which commences not far from Igwenga in Ikot Abasi Local Government Area of Akwa-Ibom State, is only twenty-five nautical miles.For the avoidance of doubt, any zone that enjoys a proximity of even thirty nautical miles to a maritime endowment such as the Atlantic Ocean, should not in any way categorize itself as being land-locked. For the benefit of those who do not know, Port-Harcourt wharf is about forty nautical miles to the Atlantic Ocean. It was dredged and scooped during the Premiership of Dr. M.I. Okpara during the defunct Eastern Region for ships to berth therein. If Port-Harcourt wharf could be made accessible to ships despite its fourty-nautical-mile distance to the Atlantic Ocean, it justifiably stands to reason that Obeaku-Ndoki Wharf, which is only twenty-five nautical miles to the Atlantic Ocean, could be more readily and profitably accessed by ships.

afube:


Believe me it will not be in the interest of the SS ( short or long term ) to sabotage any port project in Azumili nor do they have military might to stop it anyway.The opening up of that shipping route will be beneficial to all parties.

Lol sabotage it because? There'll just have to be agreements and cooperate bilateral shit like that so everyone will benefit. As per military might lmao, the ammunition's in the Creek's of bayelsa Trump that of the SE combined, you sef leave that side.

horsepower102:


They can pass through the river to gain access to the open sea. This is protected by international laws. This is the main debate. No one arguing otherwise has shown any proof to the contrary. All I see here are bitter hateful hearts clinging unto landlocked propaganda.

The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea 1982 provided rights for land-locked states on the sea. More importantly, the convention provided them with the right of access to and from the seas and freedom of transit. However, the law makes such rights subject to the agreements to be made by land-locked and transit states. This, in turn, depends on the prevailing relations between the concerned states. If they are not in a smooth relation, the transit states may not be willing to negotiate and thereby put impediments on the land-locked states’ free transit.


The political will and commitment of transit states highly conditioned the rights of land-locked states. The denial of free transit, in turn, affects the rights of land-locked states on the different maritime regimes. Land-locked states have no absolute right of access to and from the seas and freedom of transit. Hence, the study concludes that to give practical effect to those rights, negotiating bilateral and multilateral agreements with the transit states has a crucial and irreplaceable role.

http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo?journalid=202&doi=10.11648/j.ss.20150402.12

Land-locked states have no absolute right of access to and from the seas and freedom of transit.

If you know how to read, go ahead, read gently and comprehend massively for your own good.

Your rights are not absolute, it doesn't supersede the rights of the sovereign Nations and the rights of transit states because at the end of the day, they call the shots, not the UN or even you.

Blackking98:
Lol sabotage it because? There'll just have to be agreements and cooperate bilateral shit like that so everyone will benefit. As per military might lmao, the ammunition's in the Creek's of bayelsa Trump that of the SE combined, you sef leave that side.

you obviously do not know what the Igbos are capable of !.............that's one downside of propaganda you fail to realize when you begin to believe your own lies.

Blackking98:
Landlocked means having no direct access to the sea without passing through rivers or other nations or states. So yes the SE or igbos are landlocked as they can't reach the Atlantic without using a river that passes through Akwa Ibom and Rivers (ogoni and ibibio) territories. With the right negotiations with the SS or Niger Delta republic they can make use of the river to do business.

That is what they don't want to accept o.

horsepower102:


Yes igbo is landlocked but has access to the open sea through it’s rivers and international laws which you yorubas can never change...

Deal with it bitter heart!

Eyah sorry. Cry less. Access or not. Your land is landlocked,gbam. . Ndo

afube:


you obviously do not know what the Igbos are capable of !.............that's one downside of propaganda you fail to realize when you begin to believe your own lies.

What can igbo capable of doing. Oga ade, fashy

ProT:

Like seriously?

Yes, Lagos was a separate COLONY!
But it was called a COLONY for a reason.

told you it was built by the COLONIAL (from the word COLONY) masters, and all u could counter with, is Lagos being a separate COLONY?
Like, how does that change anything? SMH!

And who were the natives that worked with colonial government in Lagos ? Igbos ? Or the returned yoruba ex slaves who also built some architecture that last till date ?
Have you no heard of Souza, Fernandez, Rochas ,Da Silva of Lagos smh

Gabkosh:
Eyah sorry. Cry less. Access or not. Your land is landlocked,gbam. . Ndo

Ibo can’t even boast of one city

gwafaeziokwu:


Lesotho is bordered on all sides by land. Orange river pass through it upnorth into other south African cities. The orange river did not connect Lesotho directly to the ocean. I do not also want to talk about the distance because it is really outrageous. That is why it is called an enclave.

In our case, the Imo River, which originates from Umuaku in Isuochi of Umunneochi Local Government Area meandered its way up to Obeaku-Ndoki, from where it emptied itself into the Atlantic Ocean. It is very strategic to mention that the distance between Obeaku-Ndoki and the Atlantic Ocean, which commences not far from Igwenga in Ikot Abasi Local Government Area of Akwa-Ibom State, is only twenty-five nautical miles.For the avoidance of doubt, any zone that enjoys a proximity of even thirty nautical miles to a maritime endowment such as the Atlantic Ocean, should not in any way categorize itself as being land-locked. For the benefit of those who do not know, Port-Harcourt wharf is about forty nautical miles to the Atlantic Ocean. It was dredged and scooped during the Premiership of Dr. M.I. Okpara during the defunct Eastern Region for ships to berth therein. If Port-Harcourt wharf could be made accessible to ships despite its fourty-nautical-mile distance to the Atlantic Ocean, it justifiably stands to reason that Obeaku-Ndoki Wharf, which is only twenty-five nautical miles to the Atlantic Ocean, could be more readily and profitably accessed by ships.

For the avoidance of doubt, you can not sit on NL and make your own rules and laws per the definition of landlocked.

PH wharf and whatever river they dredge to accommodate it sits right inside the same state, not 30 miles away inside another state, note the difference.

Adefatima:


And who were the natives that worked with colonial government in Lagos ? Igbos ? Or the returned yoruba ex slaves who also built some architecture that last till date ?
Have you no heard of Souza, Fernandez, Rochas ,Da Silva of Lagos smh

You must love ur own fart a lot; who am I to stop u?
Continue!

Aladegba:
Igbo presidency, Igbo apologies after civil war, Igbo conspiracy, etc. One fact remains...the entire igboland is landlocked. What is the difference between Lesotho and south eastern Nigerian. If Igbo wanna be free, they must negotiate their freedom with the Niger Deltans which will end up at the doorstep of the yorubas and denied!!! What is the essence of freedom if it can never be achieved?

Lol. Chai one igbegiri gobbler overestimating their importance.

Goldencheese:
I just read your comment again.

It is loaded. That is the way for us to change this nation.

Thumps up!

Greetings and regards.

Nne don't take bats seriously. You'll be heart broken. You are advised.

OfoIgbo:


If I include Igbo territories in the SS, then I can make such a flight. Gowon cannot determine what is the boundary between Igbos

Simple as ABC. Now you got the appropriate answer to the misinformation our enemies have been pushing all these while. The simple answer is that 'Gowon can never determine the boundary of Igboland.
Meanwhile, our enemies have been clearly identified and we shall put sand in their own garri at the right time. We will never forget.

afube:


you obviously do not know what the Igbos are capable of !.............that's one downside of propaganda you fail to realize when you begin to believe your own lies.

I know the Igbo ingenuity and stuff like that but I'm speaking with current stats, with high level of cultism and militancy in the SS which means excess arms in circulation the SE can't even afford a confrontation with us bro.

afube:


You have manifestly refused to see the existential threat the Fulani savages pose to ndigbo..........the Fulanis have savaged and ravaged the middle belt, the same ipob miscreants are wedging the Fulanis in the ebonyi / Benue axis !!!.......you have absolutely nothing encouraging to say to them except to call them childish. you leave marauding Fulani savages but turn on your own people,ipob are the only Igbo ppl actually on ground doing anything to stop these evil people. Your ilk will be ultimately weeded out .........leave those ready and willing to work to go about their business.

People like him always end up as sellouts so they deserve to be skinned alive before they do much damage.

Blackking98:
I know the Igbo ingenuity and stuff like that but I'm speaking with current stats, with high level of cultism and militancy in the SS which means excess arms in circulation the SE can't even afford a confrontation with us bro.

Really? igbo will weaken your region without firing a single bullet, it's an open secret.

Adefatima:


And who were the natives that worked with colonial government in Lagos ? Igbos ? Or the returned yoruba ex slaves who also built some architecture that last till date ?
Have you no heard of Souza, Fernandez, Rochas ,Da Silva of Lagos smh

your delusion is on level 5G seriously.

gwafaeziokwu:


1. You obviously did not get my point.

2. It is quite okay because the statement was not meant for you.

3. Cheers

Good Job, for a second I was thinking you were going to fall for his little trick .
Don't allow them to interfere in your matters .
Keep them far away.

NGpatriot:



For the avoidance of doubt, you can not sit on NL and make your own rules and laws per the definition of landlocked.

PH wharf and whatever river they dredge to accommodate it sits right inside the same state, not 30 miles away inside another state, note the difference.

You run your mouth on something you know nothing about.

I am sure you don't know where Ndoki is situated. If you look at the map Imo river run from the left while Azumini river run down from the right. The two Rivers met at a confluence in Obuaku. All the surrounding land in that axis belong to Ndoki people. Are the Ndokis Yoruba? As the river leave the Ndoki land it enlarges and became wider moving freely without bumping into any where until it empties into the Atlantic within a distance of 25 - 30 nautical miles.

EsomahJD:


Good Job, for a second I was thinking you were going to fall for his little trick .
Don't allow them to interfere in your matters .
Keep them far away.

Once you master their strategy you can easily predict them.

horsepower102:
Look at the level of panic these people have been in since yesterday because of this thread.

You can see the level of evil that they wish for igbos.

A lot of them didn’t sleep well last night.

“It’s only takes one seed or truth to destroy mountains of lies”

I love that threa. Since the beginning of Ipob, they have been shouting landlocked landlocked, it's like many igbos are queuing to their ideas that igboland is landlocked. But this thread is an eye opener to every igbo that your land is not landlocked whether SE or entire igboland. Let nobody insults you with oil and access to the sea because you have them in abundant.

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gwafaeziokwu:


You run your mouth on something you know nothing about.

I am sure you don't know where Ndoki is situated. If you look at the map Imo river run from the left while Azumini river run down from the right. The two Rivers met at a confluence in Obuaku. All the surrounding land in that axis belong to Ndoki people. Are the Ndokis Yoruba? As the river leave the Ndoki land it enlarges and became wider moving freely without bumping into any where until it empties into the Atlantic within a distance of 25 - 30 nautical miles.

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What's my business with your useless village river, if you don't know the meaning of landlocked, go and find out before your next ignorant post or before you quote me again.

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If you know how to read, go ahead, read gently and comprehend massively for your own good.

Your rights are not absolute, it doesn't supersede the rights of the sovereign Nations and the rights of transit states because at the end of the day, they call the shots, not the UN or even you.[/s]

You don't even understand the article you quoted. Igboland has sections that lie less than 25 miles to the ocean, even closer to the Atlantic than P.H. and several others already with ports. Now, FYI, some of these rivers do not cross any other land before emptying into the Atlantic. When Nigeria breaks up and any other neigbouring country tries to sabotage our access to the ocean then it will be an act of war and Biafra will not hesitate to invade such country. What is the distance between P.H. and Ukwa in Abia state? Also, remember that Asa/Ndoki people of Obigbo will most likely go with the Igbo mainland than with the Ikwerre/Ijaw so that makes BIAFRA even more closer to the ocean as well as to P.H. (the capital of whatever nation that will be to our South).

Ikwerre or even the Ijaws can't even challenge us to a war in post Nigeria because they won't be any match to us. Forget about militancy because that's guerilla but I'm talking about conventional.

Secondly, can they sabotage our port while theirs will continue to be in use?

BIAFRA can even easily destabilize their country by supporting our Igboid groups in their country to go an insurrection.

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proeast:
You don't even understand the article you quoted. Igboland has sections that lie less than 25 miles to the ocean, even closer to the Atlantic than P.H. and several others already with ports. Now, FYI, some of these rivers do not cross any other land before emptying into the Atlantic. When Nigeria breaks up and any other neigbouring country tries to sabotage our access to the ocean then it will be an act of war and Biafra will not hesitate to invade such country. What is the distance between P.H. and Ukwa in Abia state? Also, remember that Asa/Ndoki people of Obigbo will most likely go with the Igbo mainland than with the Ikwerre/Ijaw so that makes BIAFRA even more closer to the ocean as well as to P.H. (the capital of whatever nation that will be to our South).

Ikwerre or even the Ijaws can't even challenge us to a war in post Nigeria because they won't be any match. Forget about militancy because that's guerilla but I'm talking about conventional.

Secondly, can they sabotage our port while theirs will continue to be in use?

BIAFRA can even easily destabilize their country by supporting our Igboid groups in their country to go an insurrection.

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Tired of reading these endless ignorant village river rubbish.


SE is landlocked, PERIOD.

NGpatriot:
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Tired of reading these endless ignorant village river rubbish.


SE is landlocked, PERIOD[/s].

Cry us a river, another of your propaganda has been quashed.

BIAFRA is bae

awgumayor:
I love that threa. Since the beginning of Ipob, they have been shouting landlocked landlocked, it's like many igbos are queuing to their ideas that igboland is landlocked. But this thread is an eye opener to every igbo that your land is not landlocked whether SE or entire igboland. Let nobody insults you with oil and access to the sea because you have them in abundant.

Honestly, I'm so enjoying their frustration since their last propaganda point has been destroyed.
BIAFRA is so attractive and potentially great as an Igbo only country. Now everyone can see that we don't need SS to be great.