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FG Stops Striking University Workers’ Salary / FG, ASUU Resume Talks Today Over IPPIS, Revitalisation Fund / NASU, SSANU Declare Strike Over IPPIS (2) (3) (4)

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Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Chatflick(m): 3:02pm On May 20, 2020
Greenbirth:
yea I may be but I am 100 times better than your generation. You people that come to NL to defraud the members their hard earned money. Time is coming when here will not be save for people like you. If you know forex trading why didn't you advertise it in the right place. Go Bleep yourself.
Your moniker says it all. I'm out... You ain't worth my time
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Greenbirth: 3:03pm On May 20, 2020
Chatflick:

Your moniker says it all. I'm out... You ain't worth my time
the same to me bad bye
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Horlasod: 3:03pm On May 20, 2020
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by MyMouth(m): 3:05pm On May 20, 2020
Coronavirus84:
NASU! NASU!! NASU!!! we the Non academic staff of Federal institutions are tired of your nonchalant attitude to our salary. Month of April 2020 salary I received on Monday is just 4k and am in Level 8 step2
If u are in level 8, then u are no longer part of NASU but SANNU
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Enskynelson(m): 3:07pm On May 20, 2020
Yes. It's long overdue
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by chizzy2019(m): 3:08pm On May 20, 2020
My people pls help a brother. My family was hit badly by Covid 19 pandemic. I have a young family of 2 little kids & was placed on compulsory leave without pay at my workplace since march. I have been doing different menial jobs to put food on our table. It hasn't been easy. Pls help me. No amount is too small. 6051847446, Fidelity bank. God bless
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Excuses: 3:10pm On May 20, 2020
Fraud..pls don't get involved my people..Imagine this hard times, u're still thinking of defrauding people..no peace for the wicked..
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Youngzero2(m): 3:10pm On May 20, 2020
made me to be conserving my battery.
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Youngzero2(m): 3:12pm On May 20, 2020
What's wrong with this people self
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Blue3k(m): 3:13pm On May 20, 2020
Yawn if they're such high demand then they're free to work in the private sector nobody is being held hostage. There's no reason to keep insubordinate staff who arent working anyway on payroll. The data your requesting isn't available by the way. You brag you're irreplaceable but you refuse to leave better job opportunitiesin the private sector teaching.

You're also assuming talent from private sector or outside wont come replace insubordinate staff. I personally dont believe your argument about the full employment for pharmacists without evidence suggesting such. The leverage is clearly with the federal government.


bizme:
You have omitted the details of those degrees. When you speak of the university system it is highly complex system and a job applicant having a masters degree doesn't automatically fit in anywhere. Take my field for example, it is impossible for you to have a bachelor degree in Pharmacy and not already be employed. With almost no more than 14,000 pharmacists who are Nigerians, a good number of us have left the country. And without a bachelor of pharmacy degree you cannot run a pharmacy programme in any of the universities. The very fact that University jobs pay pharmacists ridiculous salaries is exactly why my colleagues would not in a million years accept to lecture in a university. For instance, even after you have added an MSc and a PhD degree to your qualifications as Faculty of Pharmacy lecturer, most of the graduates produced by you with no more than a bachelors degree will take first salaries that are infinitely higher than yours, with all your additional degrees. If you see a Pharmacist who is lecturing it is purely the love for the job and a good sense of sacrifice that compels him to turn back on the juicer packages outside and pick up lecturing job.
You have to understand the system well to know that lecturers, e.g., those working at the Faculty of Pharmacy are simply irreplaceable. And this applies for all the fields. You can not bring an MBA masters degree to teach pharmacy, medical, law, engineering students and so on. You cannot use a PhD in Education to train students of geology, chemistry and so on ...


Don't always believe the propaganda by the government. The same government that said through Chris Ngige that medical personnel could leave the country for all he cared, that there were many doctors looking for employment, is now the same government that has been quickly increasing the allowances of health personnel to prevent any kind of unrest at this time. That you have MBBS wielding doctors outside doesn't mean you can replace highly trained surgeons and consultants with the job-seekers. It is the same way with you saying lecturers are replaceable.

I for one like to see what it looks like replacing highly trained and experienced lecturers up to professorial cadres with job seekers with or without postgraduate degrees. Won't that be a very memorable sight?

Once this COVID19 holiday is over, Nigerians should get ready for the total shutdown of our universities. For the first time in a long while, Buhari has succeeded in uniting all three University unions. ASUU, NASU, and SSANU.

In the end, the politicians with the private higher institutions are the ones who will benefit from all this, and Nigerians the ones to lose. All the university workers' entitlements will eventually be paid no matter what. But at the end, founders of private universities will keep smiling to the bank. This is how politicians play us and some naive Nigerians actually think this is a fight against corruption.

Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Nobody: 3:23pm On May 20, 2020
SWORD419:
Merciless set of people, buhari is weak tbh, with the number of unemployed graduates NASU is replaceable

You cannot replace a union. That said, I guess you meant junior staff. The question I would ask you is thus, would you recommend employing new people and paying them 4k?
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Coronavirus84: 3:25pm On May 20, 2020
MyMouth:

If u are in level 8, then u are no longer part of NASU but SANNU
Even at level 9 you can still be a NASU member. SSANU is a no longer place for me
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by zikter(m): 3:26pm On May 20, 2020
Sirnuel:


Lol, you think Nigeria is a 1 man business. People are asking for their salary and you want them sacked??
Don't mind them, they think is a Chinese company
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by zikter(m): 3:28pm On May 20, 2020
Sirnuel:


So he should just sack the whole university staff and replace them??

Lol funny lot.
He thinks is a mushroom company

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Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Nobody: 3:28pm On May 20, 2020
You are free to ask any random pharmacist you know around about this thing. Disbelief is easily remedied by getting the right information. And yes I have done different postings relating to the pharmacy profession already... But there's not point going into this again here.

You need to correct your idea of what constitutes insubordination. The Executive arm of the Federal Government is not the Boss. I know that the long period that we have spent under colonial masters and later military administrators has made it difficult for some of us to stop viewing those elected into offices as the owner of our lives...

And no, I have not bragged...not even once. But for someone without the working knowledge of what I stated, I understand that it would come across as bragging... It is very easy for you to verify, if you are in the mood. Call up a professor, or simply find out the duties and responsibilities of different academic cadres in the Universities, Polytechnics and so on. Reconcile this with the stipulations of the NUC for each position and those of the professional councils for professional courses like Pharmacy, Medicine, Nursing, Medical Laboratory Science, Dentistry, Law, Engineering, and son on. You can easily get the BMAS for all undergraduate courses from the NUC website for instance. After going through these requirements for lecturing these various courses, then you can independently come to the conclusion on whether or not lecturers can simply be replaced with a single wave of Buhari-hand...

That's even just for undergraduate courses. We will take it to postgraduate levels it becomes a lot more interesting.


Blue3k:
Yawn if they're such high demand then they're free to work in the private sector nobody is being held hostage. There's no reason to keep insubordinate staff who arent working anyway on payroll. The data your requesting isn't available by the way. You brag you're irreplaceable but you refuse to leave better job opportunitiesin the private sector teaching.

You're also assuming talent from private sector or outside wont come replace insubordinate staff. I personally dont believe your argument about the full employment for pharmacists without evidence suggesting such. The leverage is clearly with the federal government.


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Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by ALABACONNECT(m): 3:29pm On May 20, 2020
This once doesn't know that Nigeria doesn't need such drama

Well, for your UK used Smart TVs, ACs and Soundsystems, check my signature.
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by MoIbrahim: 3:33pm On May 20, 2020
Greedy people. As if they are not the ones that started the mess.
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by brexit: 3:35pm On May 20, 2020
People in other sectors are afraid of facing unemployment globally you are now agitating for strike when most of these staff do not do any tangible thing in our schools, government should go through records and retrench some of these people who are almost redundant in our system 0
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Blue3k(m): 3:36pm On May 20, 2020
What in their contacts or in lsbor labour laws exempts them IPPIS. There's nothing illegal about the ordering them to register. If they refuse it's insubordination. The fact is the hype surrounding them as irreplaceable is fslse they dont have employment and they cant easily be absored into lsbor labor market. The latest unemployment statistics already prove this to be true.

bizme:
You are free to ask any random pharmacist you know around about this thing. Disbelief is easily remedied by getting the right information. And yes I have done different postings relating to the pharmacy profession already... But there's not point going into this again here.

You need to correct your idea of what constitutes insubordination. The Executive arm of the Federal Government is not the Boss. I know that the long period that we have spent under colonial masters and later military administrators has made it difficult for some of us to stop viewing those elected into offices as the owner of our lives...

And no, I have not bragged...not even once. But for someone without the working knowledge of what I stated, I understand that it would come across as bragging... It is very easy for you to verify, if you are in the mood. Call up a professor, or simply find out the duties and responsibilities of different academic cadres in the Universities, Polytechnics and so on. Reconcile this with the stipulations of the NUC for each position and those of the professional councils for professional courses like Pharmacy, Medicine, Nursing, Medical Laboratory Science, Dentistry, Law, Engineering, and son on. You can easily get the BMAS for all undergraduate courses from the NUC website for instance. After going through these requirements for lecturing these various courses, then you can independently come to the conclusion on whether or not lecturers can simply be replaced with a single wave of Buhari-hand...

That's even just for undergraduate courses. We will take it to postgraduate levels it becomes a lot more interesting.


Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by zikter(m): 3:37pm On May 20, 2020
bizme:
You have omitted the details of those degrees. When you speak of the university system it is highly complex system and a job applicant having a masters degree doesn't automatically fit in anywhere. Take my field for example, it is impossible for you to have a bachelor degree in Pharmacy and not already be employed. With almost no more than 14,000 pharmacists who are Nigerians, a good number of us have left the country. And without a bachelor of pharmacy degree you cannot run a pharmacy programme in any of the universities. The very fact that University jobs pay pharmacists ridiculous salaries is exactly why my colleagues would not in a million years accept to lecture in a university. For instance, even after you have added an MSc and a PhD degree to your qualifications as Faculty of Pharmacy lecturer, most of the graduates produced by you with no more than a bachelors degree will take first salaries that are infinitely higher than yours, with all your additional degrees. If you see a Pharmacist who is lecturing it is purely the love for the job and a good sense of sacrifice that compels him to turn back on the juicer packages outside and pick up lecturing job.
You have to understand the system well to know that lecturers, e.g., those working at the Faculty of Pharmacy are simply irreplaceable. And this applies for all the fields. You can not bring an MBA masters degree to teach pharmacy, medical, law, engineering students and so on. You cannot use a PhD in Education to train students of geology, chemistry and so on ...

Don't always believe the propaganda by the government. The same government that said through Chris Ngige that medical personnel could leave the country for all he cared, that there were many doctors looking for employment, is now the same government that has been quickly increasing the allowances of health personnel to prevent any kind of unrest at this time. That you have MBBS wielding doctors outside doesn't mean you can replace highly trained surgeons and consultants with the job-seekers. It is the same way with you saying lecturers are replaceable.

I for one like to see what it looks like replacing highly trained and experienced lecturers up to professorial cadres with job seekers with or without postgraduate degrees. Won't that be a very memorable sight?

Once this COVID19 holiday is over, Nigerians should get ready for the total shutdown of our universities. For the first time in a long while, Buhari has succeeded in uniting all three University unions. ASUU, NASU, and SSANU.

In the end, the politicians with the private higher institutions are the ones who will benefit from all this, and Nigerians the ones to lose. All the university workers' entitlements will eventually be paid no matter what. But at the end, founders of private universities will keep smiling to the bank. This is how politicians play us and some naive Nigerians actually think this is a fight against corruption.

Thanks for taking time to talk to that guy. We had a running conversation on the sack topic for two days. He thinks you can just wake up and erase a workforce, bring in new people and the system will be sustained. I asked him the distribution of the degrees he is talking about. He even said the president can hire from other countries and I laughed. Which lecturers will leave Ghana, South Africa etc to come and lecture in our system, at the minimum, you will pay them as expatriate, which will cost more. Talk is cheap anyway
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by jamace(m): 3:37pm On May 20, 2020
Govt should use EFCC to track down those who have eaten illegal yams and prosecute them. QED.
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by qdlegrand(m): 3:38pm On May 20, 2020
The battle of the corrupt......
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by otokx(m): 3:39pm On May 20, 2020
IPPIS is not the problem, the unions are terribly corrupt.
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by zikter(m): 3:45pm On May 20, 2020
bizme:
You are free to ask any random pharmacist you know around about this thing. Disbelief is easily remedied by getting the right information. And yes I have done different postings relating to the pharmacy profession already... But there's not point going into this again here.

You need to correct your idea of what constitutes insubordination. The Executive arm of the Federal Government is not the Boss. I know that the long period that we have spent under colonial masters and later military administrators has made it difficult for some of us to stop viewing those elected into offices as the owner of our lives...

And no, I have not bragged...not even once. But for someone without the working knowledge of what I stated, I understand that it would come across as bragging... It is very easy for you to verify, if you are in the mood. Call up a professor, or simply find out the duties and responsibilities of different academic cadres in the Universities, Polytechnics and so on. Reconcile this with the stipulations of the NUC for each position and those of the professional councils for professional courses like Pharmacy, Medicine, Nursing, Medical Laboratory Science, Dentistry, Law, Engineering, and son on. You can easily get the BMAS for all undergraduate courses from the NUC website for instance. After going through these requirements for lecturing these various courses, then you can independently come to the conclusion on whether or not lecturers can simply be replaced with a single wave of Buhari-hand...

That's even just for undergraduate courses. We will take it to postgraduate levels it becomes a lot more interesting.


He clearly doesn't have a single idea of how the system works. It was Crystal clear from my discussion with him, pointing out these things you are saying. He thinks it is just waving a sack wand, going to street to pick lecturers to come and work. He thinks the government is even doing the lecturers a favour by letting them teach in schools
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Nobody: 3:47pm On May 20, 2020
Coronavirus84:
NASU! NASU!! NASU!!! we the Non academic staff of Federal institutions are tired of your nonchalant attitude to our salary. Month of April 2020 salary I received on Monday is just 4k and am in Level 8 step2
...Na lie ! Show us Pics of your salary pay slipppppp !
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by thundafire: 3:47pm On May 20, 2020
bluemansion:
embarassed

These people are still contemplating more strike when school should be resuming? That means we are dead. We have already died and we'll be more dead if lockdown is not lifted completely and campuses reopened for us to go back to our businesses.

I'm neither on government payroll nor company's own but survive by what I make via my campus business. Today, campuses are shutdown. In other words, I have no source of livelihood again. I never had expected this thing to last this long. Please help a brother in serious need. God bless you all.

To avoid mods sledging their hammer on me, my account details on my signature please. Any thing will be highly appreciated.
because tax, pension,NHF and other dues are been deducted and dey are shouting shortchange,even if I don't like dis useless government but on dis I don't support dey useless tertiary lecturers and non lecturers
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Nobody: 3:48pm On May 20, 2020
grin
I thought they said it was only lecturers.
Lecturers are corrupt, lecturers are corrupt bla bla.
IPPIS defenders where art thou cheesy
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Coronavirus84: 3:54pm On May 20, 2020
Supermugu:
...Na lie ! Show us Pics of your salary pay slipppppp !
You are not into the system, you can't understand what am saying.
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Nobody: 4:04pm On May 20, 2020
Coronavirus84:

You are not into the system, you can't understand what am saying.
.... Which system ! FG salary or ASSU mugu Salary system ?
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by LibrarianD: 4:05pm On May 20, 2020
Blue3k:


Yes sack anyone who wants be insubordinate. You weirdos act like you're being oppressed by following legal lawful directives.

Guy,
Stop displaying your ignorance on tertiary institution issues. Get a dictionary and check the meaning of "strike" and "industrial dispute." From there you can make an informed argument on labour practices.

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Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by ABBEYsammy01(m): 4:08pm On May 20, 2020
All of them na scam, NASU, ASUU, IPPIS, Nothing is working in this country.
more than 70% of universities staff did not receive their last month salary, curtsy of IPPIS
Re: NASU Directs University Workers, Others To Begin Strike Over IPPIS by Pedekunle(m): 4:21pm On May 20, 2020
general buhari and this his ippis na

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